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Darth Kaan
10-24-2002, 08:18 PM
Just curious, how many of you think that EP3 will have an epic battle between Anakin and Obi Won showing how Anakin gets tossed into the pit, or should the time be better spent showing Vader hunting down Jedi (the great jedi purge) ?

JediNyt
10-24-2002, 08:27 PM
I think the Jedi purge is continued after ep3. The ANi Obi duel shouldnt be too long. Long enough to make it impactful. I think Sidious wipes out most of the Jedi in ep3 and Vader mops up the rest afterward. Maybe Palpatine bombs the Jedi Temple. That there makes the most sense.

Jedi_Monk
10-25-2002, 01:01 AM
I saw stunt coordinator Rick Gillard at Star Wars Celebration 2... he said that the Obi-Wan/Anakin Skywalker duel in Episode III will be the most incredible fight ever seen on film :D

http://members.aol.com/dannilalfletch/Jedi_Monk.jpg

The Truthful Liar
10-25-2002, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by Jedi_Monk
I saw stunt coordinator Rick Gillard at Star Wars Celebration 2... he said that the Obi-Wan/Anakin Skywalker duel in Episode III will be the most incredible fight ever seen on film :D

Let's certainly hope so, I can haredly wait. :cool:

Darth Kaan
10-25-2002, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by Jedi_Monk
I saw stunt coordinator Rick Gillard at Star Wars Celebration 2... he said that the Obi-Wan/Anakin Skywalker duel in Episode III will be the most incredible fight ever seen on film :D

http://members.aol.com/dannilalfletch/Jedi_Monk.jpg

That would be great! There is hope...

LiMP RABBiT
10-25-2002, 01:45 PM
Ever seen on a film? Did this coordinator have a head that was slightly larger than you'd expect.

Darth Kaan
10-25-2002, 11:24 PM
LOL! Good one!

ET Warrior
10-25-2002, 11:33 PM
Nick Gillard is good, very good. He choreographed all the fights in the prequels.....so I think if he makes that boast I am inclined to believe him....

Taos
10-26-2002, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by Jedi_Monk
I saw stunt coordinator Rick Gillard at Star Wars Celebration 2... he said that the Obi-Wan/Anakin Skywalker duel in Episode III will be the most incredible fight ever seen on film :D

http://members.aol.com/dannilalfletch/Jedi_Monk.jpg


I'm keeping my fingers crossed for this one ppl!!! :D

Lionen
10-27-2002, 11:22 AM
He has several years to make it perfect, so.... there IS hope...

Holo-Sidious
10-27-2002, 12:46 PM
The Great Jedi Purge will happen after the film... maybe a large chunk of the Jedi will die, but there will be several left apart from Yoda and Obi-Wan. Mace will die in the film for definate, because he asked George Lucas for a great death! I'm thinking either Dooku or Boba Fett... :fett:

Vader will only be around in the final moments of Episode III (according to an interview with Rick MaCallum from Star Wars Magazine). Anakin will remain light for the better part of the film.

Taos
10-27-2002, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Holo-Sidious
The Great Jedi Purge will happen after the film... maybe a large chunk of the Jedi will die, but there will be several left apart from Yoda and Obi-Wan. Mace will die in the film for definate, because he asked George Lucas for a great death! I'm thinking either Dooku or Boba Fett... :fett:

Vader will only be around in the final moments of Episode III (according to an interview with Rick MaCallum from Star Wars Magazine). Anakin will remain light for the better part of the film.


Again I agree w/Holo-Sid.....I think this will happen as well.

I just don't want Boba to kill Mace!! :(

Sivy
10-27-2002, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Jedi_Monk
I saw stunt coordinator Rick Gillard at Star Wars Celebration 2... he said that the Obi-Wan/Anakin Skywalker duel in Episode III will be the most incredible fight ever seen on film :D

http://members.aol.com/dannilalfletch/Jedi_Monk.jpg

i hope so, at least 15 minutes screen time, that would be cool

Darth Kaan
10-28-2002, 07:47 AM
I have said it before and will say it again, the great jedi purge, like a lot of stuff, may be left to "explaination" as GL uses that alot.

What will be seen in EP3 depends a lot with what timeframe it starts in relation to EP2's ending and EP4's beggining.

Pad
10-28-2002, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by Jedi_Monk
I saw stunt coordinator Rick Gillard at Star Wars Celebration 2... he said that the Obi-Wan/Anakin Skywalker duel in Episode III will be the most incredible fight ever seen on film :D

http://members.aol.com/dannilalfletch/Jedi_Monk.jpg

i certainly hope so.

as for boba killing mace, i think not. he would be too young when ep3 happens. who will kill mace, beats me.

Darth Kaan
10-30-2002, 06:03 PM
This is just an opinion, but, I think Mace will die during the Jedi purge and if that doesnt happen in EP3 then he wont die in EP3 either...

ET Warrior
10-30-2002, 11:15 PM
Anakin will remain light for the better part of the film.

Not necissarily, he could be evil without being in his vader-suit. Probably not likely, but it IS possible.

peter james
11-01-2002, 08:32 AM
anakin wil at least have a facemask on or something.

according to imdb, james earl jones is in ep3 as the voice...

Black_Knight
11-15-2002, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by Darth Kaan
This is just an opinion, but, I think Mace will die during the Jedi purge and if that doesnt happen in EP3 then he wont die in EP3 either...

I thought this too, that he would be too young. But then I re-thought it over and remembered that Boba is essentially one of those clones, accelerated growth and all. The only thing they said they changed in him was that he had a will of his own type of thing. Its possible that he could be mature enough in a couple years time (Star Wars timeline that is)...

ET Warrior
11-15-2002, 01:43 AM
Nope, boba had no growth acceleration. Lama Su specifically said it to ObiWan. "Aside from his pay, which is considerable, Fett demanded only one thing, an unaltered clone for himself."

"Pure genetic replication, no tampering with the genetic structure to make it more docile, and NO growth acceleration"

And Rick McCallum has said that Episode 3 will take place only 4 years after episode 2. So boba's gonna be 14 years old. Not old enough to take on the jedi master that owned his father.

Black_Knight
11-15-2002, 02:06 AM
*nod*

You're right. I went and watched that scene over and got it. I only have seen the movie twice, so I missed the complete part. Now that its mentioned, I do recall reading somewhere about what Rick said, but I forget where...

Taos
11-15-2002, 02:08 AM
Originally posted by ET Warrior
Nope, boba had no growth acceleration. Lama Su specifically said it to ObiWan. "Aside from his pay, which is considerable, Fett demanded only one thing, an unaltered clone for himself."

"Pure genetic replication, no tampering with the genetic structure to make it more docile, and NO growth acceleration"

And Rick McCallum has said that Episode 3 will take place only 4 years after episode 2. So boba's gonna be 14 years old. Not old enough to take on the jedi master that owned his father.


We need to post this like a sticky note on top of the page.....it's good information for everyone to see.


Btw-It's the truth!! Sorry to say for all of you boba fans......


well, not really....

Skate Boy
11-15-2002, 11:12 AM
Maybe Mace will be in a fight already and get injured? So he's laying on the ground resting from the fight he just had, and Boba comes along. You can think of what happends next.;)

Jedi_Monk
11-15-2002, 04:48 PM
Somebody here suggested a scene where Anakin beats the crap out of Mace, and then invites little Boba to finish him off. Can't remember who's idea it was, but I like it. It would give closure to Boba and sort of indebt him to Anakin.

http://members.aol.com/dannilalfletch/Jedi_Monk.jpg

leXX
11-15-2002, 10:12 PM
I don't want Mace to die! :crybaby:

Whoever kills him better friggin be fighting very long and very hard or I will be VERY dissapointed!

Ratmjedi
11-16-2002, 03:40 AM
I am with you leXX. I want Mace to have a honrable death and not a crappy one buy a 14 year old kid.
:lsduel: :duel:

Count Dooku 2
11-16-2002, 08:42 AM
I think Count Dooku will destroy Mace Windu in a massive lightsaber duel, because Dooku needs to kill a Jedi before he goes, and who better to kill than Mace Windu? OK, maybe Yoda, but he needs to live.

Count Dooku would eat Mace Windu for breakfast. His elegant, classical style would beat the crap out of Windu's short, choppy movements, and I think Mace should be well and truly killed: no simple stab through the chest, no, he needs to be chopped up into tiny pieces and vaporised into even smaller pieces.

I don't like Mace Windu... does it show?

boinga1
11-21-2002, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Jedi_Monk
Somebody here suggested a scene where Anakin beats the crap out of Mace, and then invites little Boba to finish him off. Can't remember who's idea it was, but I like it. It would give closure to Boba and sort of indebt him to Anakin.

http://members.aol.com/dannilalfletch/Jedi_Monk.jpg

This is nice.
also i think more time should got to the anikan/obiwan duel

Andy867
11-25-2002, 01:18 PM
Actually, Episode 3 takes place 3 years after Episode 2. And Rick McCallum says that the star wars film is in real-time, which was confusing the interviewer at the moment, but then rick mccallum says. Episode 3 is being released 3 years after episode 2. The Clone Wars lasted 3 years. The Clone Wars are being fought as we speak.

Also, Ewan McGregor confirmed that he and Hayden made a pact to begin severe training nearing the time they will spend in New Zealand so that they will make their fight spectacular.

Also, Rick McCallum confirms that Boba Fett is still a child has not really begun his trip into being a bounty hunter, as he cannot fit into the armor yet. So, Boba's roll in Episode 3, according to McCallum, will be very minor.

Samuel L Jackson sat down with G.L. about how Mace will be killed off. Jackson told Lucas that Windu, being the strongest jedi in terms of fighting, shouldn't be killed like some punk. He wants to die a dramatic death, and lucas says he doesn't know how he wants to kill off Mace, but he will make it grand. So, who knows what will happen, least he won't get killed by the Fett. Nor will he be killed by Dooku, since according to fact around the Star Wars universe, it is known that mace in fact is better fighter of himself and Yoda. Yoda is just more in-tuned to the Force. So, I have a feeling that it will be a more revengeful fight of Anakin and Mace, or even Sidious showing his true power.

PowerBroker
11-26-2002, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by Andy867
or will he be killed by Dooku, since according to fact around the Star Wars universe, it is known that mace in fact is better fighter of himself and Yoda.

This is canon, correct? Since in the movies (and indirectly in the commentary), Yoda is refered to as a superior swordsman. I must have missed something...

PowerBroker
11-26-2002, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by Count Dooku 2
His elegant, classical style would beat the crap out of Windu's short, choppy movements

Mace Windu doesn't use any elegant or stylish moves. He uses extremely efficient and lethal moves that require little energy and allow him to fight like a machine. His fighting style is a lot more efficient, and thus is a better style. I'd take efficiency over elegance any day.

Plo_Koon_27
11-26-2002, 08:46 PM
does anyone know how the beautiful padme dies????? will we see the birth of luke and leia?

Andy867
11-26-2002, 11:03 PM
She probably dies during the transition time between Episode 3 and A New Hope. Because Leia recalls seeing her mother, but she says that her mother was always sad.

shukrallah
11-27-2002, 12:28 PM
Think that Obi Wan and Anakin should fight when anakin turns to the dark side and obi wan kicks him into the pit then obi wan thinks anakin is dead he hides luke and leia. Anakin survives joines paplatine and hunts down the jedi and kills all of them except obi and yoda.

Andy867
11-27-2002, 01:36 PM
It cant happen that way because Obi-wan knows that Darth Vader is Anakin. So he knew that Anakin was still alive, he had just turned to the dark side, which probably occurs when he goes to fight Obi-wan, *but loses*. But he told luke that a young apprentice of his, a darth vader was seduced by the dark side, turned to the dark side and murdered your father. Too bad Luke doesn't get to find out that it was Kenobi's fault that Anakin looked the way he did in ROTJ, even though it was anakin who went to the dark side and turned on his master.

Plo_Koon_27
11-28-2002, 01:27 AM
it's not ben's fault that anikin looked the way he did in rotj he and ani had a big duel and ani lost and it was unfortunate that his physical disfigurement resulted from it. luke couldn't blame ben for that.

:koon:

Darth Talliusc
11-28-2002, 09:40 PM
little insight into the end of Obi vs Ani:

Obi stands over the ruined body of Anikan but cannot force himself to kill his old padawan. "should we ever meet again only one of us will survive"


why do i think this will happen? remember in ep4 when vader detects Obi on the deathstar? "escape is not his plan...." he knew that Obi didnt mean to get away, and he was right wasnt he? this is my explanation for how Vader knew that Obi wouldnt run.

Sivy
11-28-2002, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Darth Talliusc
little insight into the end of Obi vs Ani:

Obi stands over the ruined body of Anikan but cannot force himself to kill his old padawan. "should we ever meet again only one of us will survive"


why do i think this will happen? remember in ep4 when vader detects Obi on the deathstar? "escape is not his plan...." he knew that Obi didnt mean to get away, and he was right wasnt he? this is my explanation for how Vader knew that Obi wouldnt run.

makes sense and would be good, but i think obi-wan leaves thinking anakin is dead, but then the jedi purge happens he realises that anakin, who is now vader, is involved and is working for the emperor, he puts two and two together

Wüstenfuchs
12-15-2002, 10:46 PM
LOL...

I also think that Anakin will do something VERY baaaaad to make his master fight him.

BobaJango
12-16-2002, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by ET Warrior
Nope, boba had no growth acceleration. Lama Su specifically said it to ObiWan. "Aside from his pay, which is considerable, Fett demanded only one thing, an unaltered clone for himself."

"Pure genetic replication, no tampering with the genetic structure to make it more docile, and NO growth acceleration"

And Rick McCallum has said that Episode 3 will take place only 4 years after episode 2. So boba's gonna be 14 years old. Not old enough to take on the jedi master that owned his father.


Okay.

#1. I am a blackbelt in karate and I know 5 ways to kill people with my bare hands.
#2. Boba is 11 in episode 2. 4+11=15.
#3. I am 15 and i am as tall as my dad.
#4. If your father was just killed and you had 4 years of time on your hands with revenge on your mind, what would you do?

So it IS possible for Boba to fit into his father's armor. He was constantly being taught by Jango in self defense. By the age of ten he was FLYING Slave 1. So do you think it is no longer possible for Boba to kill Mace?
Let's hope Lucas doesn't mess this one up. It would be the biggest mistake of his life.


:fett: :jango:

Andy867
12-16-2002, 12:20 PM
Are you guys blind. Starwars.com has confirmed that boba will only be 13 at the time of Episode 3, and that he will be too small for Jango's armor, and that he is still hasnt even begun his future career as a bounty hunter, which will be his downfall.

Originally posted by Yours Truly, Andy867

Actually, Episode 3 takes place 3 years after Episode 2.
Also, Rick McCallum confirms that Boba Fett is still a child has not really begun his trip into being a bounty hunter, as he cannot fit into the armor yet. So, Boba's roll in Episode 3, according to McCallum, will be very minor.

Samuel L Jackson sat down with G.L. about how Mace will be killed off. Jackson told Lucas that Windu, being the strongest jedi in terms of fighting, shouldn't be killed like some punk. He wants to die a dramatic death, and lucas says he doesn't know how he wants to kill off Mace, but he will make it grand. So, who knows what will happen, least he won't get killed by the Fett. So, I have a feeling that it will be a more revengeful fight of Anakin and Mace, or even Sidious showing his true power.



So, face the facts guys, it won't be Boba killing off Mace, got it? Any more of this pointless bickering about Boba killing Mace, and I'll close this thread faster than Mace can lop off Jango's Head.