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Gignatz
10-27-2002, 07:22 PM
FFA/DUEL (may change)
GTKRadiant

Lo peeps,

I have just recently started a map based on Nar Shadaa. It is intended for low force, sabers only, ffa duels and Duel mode.
I may expand on what i have done and turn it into a ctf map - i seem to have enough frame-rate to play with.

anyway, there are 3 screenies here:

http://www.massassi.net/ec/view.php3?user_id=6646&type=i&DateToView=10/27/2002

and 2 older ones here:

http://www.massassi.net/ec/view.php3?user_id=6646&type=i&DateToView=10/25/2002

Hope you like :)

acdcfanbill
10-27-2002, 09:40 PM
make sure to up the gamma when u take screenshots, as they usually come out too dark :D

Gignatz
10-27-2002, 09:52 PM
thanks acdcfanbill :)

was just thinking the same thing myself - took me a few days to get there but...

Eldritch
10-27-2002, 10:25 PM
Or just lighten the screenshots afterwards with a photo editing program. The screenshots look good, but will the stage just be platforms and walkways, or will there be other areas to run around?

Gignatz
10-27-2002, 11:17 PM
well i rooted out my painter 5 (bout time i reinstalled it!) and tweaked all the screenshots' brightness.

they are now here :

http://www.massassi.net/ec/view.php3?user_id=6646&type=i&DateToView=10/27/2002

the top 4 are the beta-test map and btm 4 my new map.


Anakin_S: i intend to have 3 or 4 arenas inside the buildings depending on what vis will let me do - shouldnt be too much trouble - make each arena a bit different. there are some fairly large platforms too.
(I'd have to be a bit dull (in all senses of the word) to make a map intended for duels out of walkways only :) )

t3rr0r
10-27-2002, 11:31 PM
it looks great so far... are any of those areas going to be a cantina or the like? :D

Eldritch
10-27-2002, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by Gignatz

Anakin_S: i intend to have 3 or 4 arenas inside the buildings depending on what vis will let me do - shouldnt be too much trouble - make each arena a bit different. there are some fairly large platforms too.
(I'd have to be a bit dull (in all senses of the word) to make a map intended for duels out of walkways only :) )

Just checking. You just never know what people will do. ;)

Falco-Fett
10-29-2002, 12:44 AM
looks good

Gignatz
10-29-2002, 02:50 AM
What a weekend!! Computer virus on friday; had to reformat but managed to save my map work :D

Saturday night the toilet blocked and started leaking - right above my computer!! :eek: finally got fixed this afternoon; 2 days without relief!! :c3po:

and then the guttering along the front of the house got blown off!!! :deathii:

Anyway more importantly i managed to resume work on map sunday afternoon - took my mind off the fact we had no toilet.

i have posted some more pics here:

http://www.massassi.net/ec/view.php3?user_id=6646&type=i&DateToView=10/29/2002

i have started to tunnel into the buildings (nice and neatly of course :)) I plan to add 3-4 arenas inside the buildings.

Thinking of doing :
1. a canteen type place (T3rr0r :))
2. a genu-wine recreation of a genu-wine Jedi Temple
(a museum type place - might seem a bit out of place though
3. an industrial type thingy
(ok i'm starting to get a bit vague-ish here...:))

Any suggestions would be welcome...

JEDI_Anakin_S: tell me 'bout it lol

Thanks for the attention (it's the only reason i do this :p )

Gignatz
10-31-2002, 07:41 PM
have done some more work; started the canteen - well i've made a start on the entrance

http://www.massassi.net/ec/view.php3?user_id=6646&type=i&DateToView=10/30/2002

http://www.massassi.net/ec/view.php3?user_id=6646&type=i&DateToView=10/29/2002

Gignatz
11-02-2002, 12:40 AM
well i have decided that there is going to be 2 museum type places recreating a Sith Temple and a Jedi Temple which both meet in middle. They aren't going to be THAT big; but big enough for good duels. To get the idea that they are museum like places there are going to be neon signs n stuff and hopefully these will make it _seem_ right. (of course it could just seem daft lol)

Also there will be the Canteen and the Industrial bit. I'd like a few pot-plants too somewhere - a little rooftop park maybe?

Anyway here is a sign i have been working on (it's kind of a rough sketch i spose):
http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8051.jpg
It's intended for the Sith Temple Museum - the "words" actually say "Temple of the Sith" (according to this (http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/books/weg/wegabc.gif) alphabet anyway. Click here to read (http://www.theforce.net/swtc/preq/text.html#basic) about it.

Gignatz
11-04-2002, 10:48 PM
this week i have mostly been fiddling with textures. BUT i have made a bit more progress on what is going to be the industrial site. The floorplan is pretty much laid out now and there is a cargo bay with a view. Most of the work has been spent on the outside bit (which won't be accessible to the player). There is still work to do but here is a screeny anyway... :)

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8132.jpg

(does anyone know how to do a force-field type thing in MP? I'm going to research it but it would be handy if anyone here knows :))

Elijah
11-04-2002, 11:09 PM
LOL... massassi... Where the commies live-on...


nice map.

Gignatz
11-06-2002, 01:59 PM
well i have been at it again. I have now just about completed the cargo bay area - forcefield'n'all!!

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8169.jpg

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8168.jpg

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8167.jpg

Tiduz
11-06-2002, 04:27 PM
enough w/ the screenies! release a beta version soon! :D

Lathain Valtiel
11-06-2002, 08:09 PM
.....:jaw: Impressive.

Grets Sirob
11-06-2002, 08:24 PM
Beautiful!
Beautiful I say!
Wonderful!
Wonderful I say!
Beautiful and Wonderful I say!

No beta, beta's are over-rated, just get the work done.
Maybe have a closed beta with a few people(I'm not asking to be one, but you can pick me if you like :D).
And always keep mapping.


BTW, sorry about your toilet. ;)

acdcfanbill
11-07-2002, 02:59 PM
Wow, coming along great dude!

Shadriss
11-08-2002, 07:14 AM
Indeed, you ARE a powerful mapper, as JK2.net has foreseen....

Looking forward to seeing the full version on this one.

Wes Marrakesh
11-08-2002, 01:01 PM
Yeah. That's just awesome.

This is MP though, right? If so, the maps look a little big...

That's just me.

Oh and Grets, I thought you retired from the mapping scene:confused:

Wes Marrakesh
11-08-2002, 01:15 PM
Oh boy.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the purple sign isn't his. It's done by Starunnrt in his or her map, Coruscant Promenade. Unless you have permission from the author, I'd suggest you get another texture. It's plaugerism to use it.

Then again, I probably missed a key point...

Gignatz
11-08-2002, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by Wes Marrakesh
Oh boy.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the purple sign isn't his. It's done by Starunnrt in his or her map, Coruscant Promenade. Unless you have permission from the author, I'd suggest you get another texture. It's plaugerism to use it.

Then again, I probably missed a key point...

Well on the actual page that the screenies with SR's signs on are on it credits Starunner everywhere...

e.g. http://www.massassi.net/ec/post.php3?function=image_edit&date_to_edit=10/30/2002

and on some of the forums i have reiterated this (adding extra adoration of these beautiful textures) . Got a bit tired of doing it tho...
When final release is ... er... released the readme will credit SR fully and properly: unless of course i have replaced these textures with my own creations/monstrosities :p

Starunner says it's ok to use his/her textures as long as you give him/her credit. I have and er... i have/do :)

Wes Marrakesh
11-08-2002, 02:19 PM
No problem. Of course I missed a point ;)

The map looks excelent

Gignatz
11-08-2002, 03:40 PM
that's cool m8...nice to know peeps keep their eyes open for stuff like that :)

just thought i'd take the opportunity to explain the texture situation properly...

glad u like how the map is looking so far...

:)

Grets Sirob
11-08-2002, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Wes Marrakesh
Oh and Grets, I thought you retired from the mapping scene:confused:

Heh, someone actually noticed me!
Well, not yet, I'm still mapping.
I just don't get around to posting WIP threads anymore, due to the excessive amount of WIP's on my hd, and the extremely long time it takes me to make stuff.

I'll probably get some WIP thread's going soon though, as I'm trying to get my rear in gear and turn out some great maps!
By the way, how's it going with you Wes?

But, back to the map...

Gignatz
11-09-2002, 03:06 PM
how do peeps, :D
been a little busy with life lately but have had time to do SOME mapping. Here are some more pics...

view inside entrance area. The area in far background behind the window is the cargo bay area (from last set of screenies):
http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8214.jpg

same window from the other side. a controlly roomy thingy :):
http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8213.jpg

outside view of entrance to cargo bay/industrial-ish area (to get your bearings with):

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8210.jpg

same doorway viewed from inside:

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8209.jpg

view from down the hole. on the left is the doorway out; in front is that window again; and on the right (and out of sight) is the doorway through to the cargo bay:

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8215.jpg

Not quite as interesting as the previous lot; but i should be starting on canteen soon :)

The Truthful Liar
11-12-2002, 09:48 PM
Looks like a very promising map, any thoughts to a ctf map perhaps?

Darth Loki
11-13-2002, 02:35 AM
Did you get the new signs working yet?

Gignatz
11-13-2002, 04:38 AM
thanks AB_Legion, i have thought about ctf...Current map layout not conducive to ctf - maybe release a modified version after i have finished.

Loki - no m8 - signs aren't quite ready yet..working hard on canteen (and college work too ). Soon, my friend,...soon :)

Padawan_7
11-13-2002, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by Gignatz
It's intended for the Sith Temple Museum - the "words" actually say "Temple of the Sith"


You misspelled "of" in the sign. Currently it reads "oof." :D :p

Gignatz
11-13-2002, 10:18 PM
/me checks Dictioonary. Looooks aroound nervoously! Oooops; Yoou are quite coorrect!! :D

thankyoou padawan. might never have nooticed!

/Right...yoou can stoop that Geigeroon. It's getting silly!!

Padawan_7
11-13-2002, 11:10 PM
Heh heh. No problem. :D

Gignatz
11-17-2002, 11:56 PM
hello again :)

I have started work on Canteen. Have a lot of college work so map_work_time has been a bit patchy. Anyway this is how things look so far (nothing is DEFINITE):

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8403.jpg

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8402.jpg

the dancefloor lights are style 13 - they flash multicolouredly :). Just typical i caught them as they turned red!
http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8401.jpg

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8400.jpg

Gignatz
11-19-2002, 07:39 PM
i have made a change to those white lights (made them warmer to fit in better)

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8424.jpg

nearly done on the canteen now :)

Wudan
11-19-2002, 07:43 PM
OMG. You. Are. Teh 1337ness.

So ... how much longer? This map won't be released, it'll be unleashed ... or escape ... or something ...

Yeah!

Padawan_7
11-19-2002, 07:59 PM
Wow, that looks quite good!

Just wondering Gignatz, how long have you been mapping?
You’re very talented. :D

Gignatz
11-23-2002, 11:14 PM
thanks Wudan, glad u like. I don't think i'm THAT good though...:)

padawan_7 - been mapping in radiant about a 16 months: have done 2 smallish maps (1 q3 and 1 JKO - both in beta) and have another q3 wip. Learnt mapping in worldcraft doing a TFC map (quite big it was) took about a year but learned a LOT.

Altogether just over a couple of years now...


i have nearly finished the canteen now. Prolly gonna start the mini-temples pretty soon.

Well here's where i am up to for those who still give a monkey's :)

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8527.jpg

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8525.jpg

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8526.jpg

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8523.jpg

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8522.jpg

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8521.jpg

Padawan_7
11-24-2002, 12:33 AM
Looks great as always Gignatz!

I really can't wait to see what you do with the mini-temples. :)

Gignatz
11-24-2002, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by Padawan_7
I really can't wait to see what you do with the mini-temples. :)

well that's 2 of us! :D

Gignatz
11-24-2002, 01:39 PM
here is a rough sketch of what i have done (from gtkradiant) with proposed additions pencilled-in:

http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/8536.jpg

nucular_jedi_14
11-25-2002, 11:56 AM
that maps gonna own 4sure, hey if u need a beta tester for any maps just email me thumper_01@hotmail.com

Padawan_7
11-25-2002, 01:14 PM
Looks good, just one suggestion though.

I really like the idea of there being an arena in between the two temples, but I think it might be best to separate the two temples (one on one side of the map and the other on the other side of the map). But then, without a lot of changing (or adding) to the map, it would be hard to get the two temples to meet in the middle with that arena area. So my suggestion might not be that workable.

But, either way, I'm sure you'll make it work out. :D

Oh and one more thing, I think that proposed garden/park area is also a good idea. Is it going to be enclosed? If not, it might look a little out of place. :p

t3rr0r
11-25-2002, 07:16 PM
wow, i really like those shots. :D although the ideas of temples on nar shaddaa seems a little silly. :sweat: maybe you could make a repair bay or mechanic shop as well or instead of something? :D

Gignatz
11-25-2002, 08:54 PM
The idea for the temples is that they are sort of museum set-pieces. Along the lines of the guy who owns the compound is an industry type with an obsession for all things jedi...
then i got to thinking he maybe sponsors or otherwise encourages jedi of many flavours (dark light grey brown) to hang around and fight; maybe he even offers short courses and "awareness" weekends :p

Anyway I am going to get the rationale for the place out of my head (where it has been for a while now) and on to paper at some point which will hopefully make the place seem more like a place in the starwars galaxy than a random collection of arenas-on-a-stick :explode:

Padawan_7
11-25-2002, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Gignatz
The idea for the temples is that they are sort of museum set-pieces. Along the lines of the guy who owns the compound is an industry type with an obsession for all things jedi...
then i got to thinking he maybe sponsors or otherwise encourages jedi of many flavours (dark light grey brown) to hang around and fight...

Okay, that makes sense now. I think it will work. :)