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greedo626
10-28-2002, 11:50 AM
is there any point in trusting someone or loving them if they turn on you in spite and betray you just at the time you need them most? now I've grown vindictive and hateful. especially of those closest to me (the few that I have left). right now I'm filled with sadness and hate, so I'll cry on my keyboard and punch my monitor. at least I still have me.

Pad
10-28-2002, 11:57 AM
if u want u could tell us what happend and maybe we can help u out.
at first its normal to have those emotions, but as time passes they will go away. (i hope). best thing is that u dont lock urself up hating evrybody.

greedo626
10-28-2002, 12:06 PM
I'm past the part where I hate everybody. now I have to choose between what I know is true and what I don't want to be true. sorry, but this is not something that an of you could help with:(

leXX
10-28-2002, 12:31 PM
Well I think the fact that you made this thread indicates you want a shoulder to cry on, so why not tell us what happened and we will see if we can at least give you some friendly advice. :)

Mex
10-28-2002, 12:32 PM
Tell us, come on :) we wont bite, (Unless you have pizza on you, :p )

PhantomHelix
10-28-2002, 01:25 PM
greedo, what happened? y r u really messed up right now? plz tell us. we can at least TRY to help.....

greedo626
10-28-2002, 02:48 PM
ok. the one I cared for more than anything seems to have deserted me. also two others that are very special to me have also left me. there.

PhantomHelix
10-28-2002, 02:55 PM
whoa.....no wonder ur pissed. well, i kinda kno how ya feel. last yr 4 of my so called friends wrote me a letter telling me to kill myself or else they would. somehow the principal found out about it, and they were suspended for a week. it sukd.

Kstar__2
10-28-2002, 03:27 PM
wow greedo and phantom, that really sux, i wish i could help you. well, the best thing is to just go do some happy things, and try not to think about it too hard, i guess:(

leXX
10-28-2002, 05:39 PM
I know this may not seem like much consellation atm, but you will soon come to realise that the people you once called friends, were not in fact real friends, and you are better off without them.

I used to hang around with a big group of friends during my teens and at the time I thought they were great, until one day my closest friend betrayed me beyond all reason, and showed absolutely no remorse. I look back on the whole thing now and wonder how I didn't realise how false she was.

Everything happens for a reason, that reason may not be clear now but it will become clear in the future.

Bob Gnarly
10-28-2002, 06:00 PM
i understand, I enjoy the matrix and LOTR and SW but you guys are thinking so...we do to...but when i mentioned that to one of my friends iall of a sudden became i NERD! , A FREAK'IN NERD!?! but soon i found a better person i dont call a friend but an associate, that way i can never lose another ;) and i talk about other things like the matrix,(read thread i will start soon)......







sigh......a nerd because i like star wars........????

Jed
10-28-2002, 06:10 PM
Greedo626, I know how that is. Unfortunately, I shouldn't offer advice, because outside of the swamp, the world is slowly turning me into the most bitter, cold, sorrowful teenager the world has ever seen. My grandfather is probably more fun to hang out with than me. :D

But, every "friend" I've ever had has backstabbed me. Seriously. My best friend, and I've known him since we were both 5 (somewhere around 10 years) backstabbed me big time. And, like in leXX's story, he showed absolutely no remorse. And he then continued to make fun of me. And that's when anger consumed me.

BLAM.

I think you all know what happened there.

So that's why my advice would be a little shady, but you're gonna listen to me anyways.

You either make yourself a better person by forgiving them, given what they did could ever be forgiven, or you block them out of your life like the plague. Or, the giving in to the dark side....seek revenge. It's not a pretty thing to do, but if it makes you feel better...


That's why I rarely give advice in these situations. :D

C'jais
10-28-2002, 07:46 PM
Yeh, I'm not exactly the best person either to seek advice from...

I have a select few "real friends", and then I generally just socialize with my class in school. Bear in mind that I despise my classmates, but if I couldn't go to school without socializing at least a little, I think I'd turn mad. Therefore, I go to parties with them and pretend to have some sort of social life while in school, even though I hideously hate my classmates - their intolerance is appalling. Unfortunately, my geeky, *real* friends don't like to drink or party that much, so I'm a bit stumped on that point.

I don't know why I said all this, but I guess my advice would be to realize that who your real friends are, and then don't let the rest get too close... or sumthin' to that effect.

Darth Talliusc
10-28-2002, 08:52 PM
im very sorry to hear that greedo626 *and just about every other person that wrote here*. i can only imagine what that must be like. only time can heal wounds that deep and i really dont have anything to say that would speed it along. you have our support in whatever we can do for you.

as for those of you who have been betrayed by a group of ppl together, well that i can help a little bit with. its mob mentality. not a single one of those ppl really wants to be an ******* but they go with the group because they fear being the person in your position. they feel that if they stick up for you that they will replace you and they desperately dont want that to happen. try approaching them one at a time. when alone they will ditch that "i go with the flow so im cool" attitude and be themselves. if they still are @$$holes then they truly arent worth the time it would take to talk to. i am not condoning violence but dont let them pick on you either. dont snitch because that generally makes it worse but do something smart about it. covert sabotage is always a good idea :D see how they react when a bucket of eggs falls on them in the middle of a social function. best not to get caught though.

edit: in time you may even forget about all that was done wrong to you. bear that thought and dont do anything that you will regret.

Elijah
10-28-2002, 10:08 PM
I'm sorry to hear that, I'll keep you in my prayers

What ever you do don’t do anything you'll regret

I have often regretted my speech, never my silence. - Xenocrates
Whatever is begun in anger ends in shame. - Benjamin Franklin

Wrinkled~Lemon
10-28-2002, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by greedo626
ok. the one I cared for more than anything seems to have deserted me. also two others that are very special to me have also left me. there.

man... and i thought i was the only one to be betrayed by a close bud... it just happened recently so im still at the recovery stage...

i know greedo.... its hard to let go... its painful to let go.... its like they 'died' n all u have of them now is just memories of when u n them were close.... but hating other people wont bring them back....

its just another lesson in life... to learn to nurture strength of spirit to shield u in sudden misfortune...

*pats greedo on the back*

**sigh**

BigTeddyPaul
10-29-2002, 02:04 AM
If you have not graduated HS yet then I have to say that most of the time the average person loses about 80% of their friends from school anyways. If you have graduated then I am sorry and they do not deserve to be your friend.

BigTeddyPaul

TheWhiteRaider
10-29-2002, 02:55 AM
Ouch. Well it shows how good of a friend they were(Not that I am saying they are bad people). You always find out which are true friends and which aren't when trouble hits. True friends stick by and false ones leave you. When you make friends learn about them the more you know the better judgement of you can have of your friendship. Pick friends of good charaters because remember.

There are those with charater and there are those who are a charater.

greedo626
10-29-2002, 09:55 AM
good news. I have come to realize that I, in fact, have not been betrayed. after analizing the situation it turns out that my paranoia got the better of me... all will be reconciled.:) thanks again for all your kind words and all that, it has been much appreciated:)

Boba Fife
10-29-2002, 11:06 AM
A pretty tight-knit bunch here. :) Definitely a good thing to see especially for a "n00b' like myself.

I really can't expand too much further on what others have so aptly said, but know that everyone goes through betrayal and the torment that follows. Everyone. Trust is the most valuable thing which we can possess and yet is often the easiest thing for us to give away once, but to find great difficulty in relinquishing again upon the advent of betrayal. A classic "once bitten twice shy" scenario.

I've been in the same boat more times than I care to recount: friends with the friend who's in a group. Someone in that group feels threatened and fears replacement and therefore sets the wheels in motion to taint the view of others by insulting your character. The group effectively "votes you out" so to speak. The original friend decides that the group is more important than you. End of story. You move on and learn from the experience with a bruised sense of trust, but it heals.

Good friends are the hardest things to find and when we do, they're the most valuable thing you could ever have! If your friends can't accept you for who you are, then they really weren't your friends to begin with. If you have to bend or alter your character just to be liked, then why do you care so much for them, so much so that you're willing to put on a mask, if they don't seem to care about who you really are? They're the ones who lose out. It's really that simple. :)

leXX
10-29-2002, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by greedo626
good news. I have come to realize that I, in fact, have not been betrayed. after analizing the situation it turns out that my paranoia got the better of me... all will be reconciled.:) thanks again for all your kind words and all that, it has been much appreciated:)

AFter all that! *slaps greedo626* :mad:


Only joking :D I'm glad everything is ok.

Kstar__2
10-29-2002, 03:27 PM
that's great to hear master!

ondrahosek
10-30-2002, 12:06 PM
Next time some depression catches you, take anything mede of chocolate. It helps. Tried that (before the next problem came after 12 minutes of recovery after the first one I was just curing - well DUHHHHH!):( Teenagers' life IS hard. I am slowly becoming one, and having the first real problems. *sigh* I feel like this sometimes:

:atat:
:biggs:<OWWWW! Stop stepping on me!

The AT-AT is the surroundings in this case.

A happy thought for now: I am a PIT DROID! Coool!

Phizzle
10-30-2002, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Jedi220

BLAM.

I think you all know what happened there.



Yes we do, geeze you didn't have to kill him.

Agen
10-30-2002, 07:46 PM
good news. I have come to realize that I, in fact, have not been betrayed. after analizing the situation it turns out that my paranoia got the better of me... all will be reconciled. thanks again for all your kind words and all that, it has been much appreciated

Hehe, how many times i've made that mistake. Your mind jsut make is the probable option yet it isn't.
Ah..... the sweet feeling on anti-sanity.