single player source code will not be comeing out after all. [Archive]

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JEDI OUTCAST

10-30-2002, 01:46 PM

i got a reply from raven about the single player source code here is what they said.

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There are no plans to release the single player source code. no
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Skate Boy

10-30-2002, 01:54 PM

Aww man! I was hoping so bad that it would.:(

Elijah

10-30-2002, 03:10 PM

I Thought we have known this sense before JKII was released... at least i knew.

Kstar__2

10-30-2002, 03:51 PM

that just stinks, i think it will kill the modding community

JEDI OUTCAST

10-30-2002, 03:59 PM

i think so as well.

Darth Kaan

10-30-2002, 04:42 PM

Major, major bummer.

Elijah

10-30-2002, 05:07 PM

I remember hearing about that before the game even came out...

TheWhiteRaider

10-31-2002, 01:00 AM

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WANT THE CODE WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

acdcfanbill

10-31-2002, 01:58 AM

well, we were pretty sure it wouldnt get released anyway. there was about a .01% chance it would... oh well, time to move on... :(

Elijah

10-31-2002, 03:19 AM

*moves on*

I dont really play SP mods anyways...

ArtifeX

10-31-2002, 09:25 AM

I'm curious if this means the animation file tools won't be released either. I really wish I knew what was going on between Lucasarts and Raven right now.

This whole situation is really limiting what we modders can do.

Darth Kaan

10-31-2002, 06:13 PM

Just musing...

A LOT of people thought 1.03 was going to be the last patch. There was lots of debate over a new patch and when the community least expected it, 1.04 was released.

I don't know if LEC has released any SC for any of its other games or not. That may be an indicator.

Russk Rijann

11-01-2002, 01:43 PM

I wouldn't be suprised if Lucasarts was the only thing holding the source code back....they are so dam stingy when it comes to modding..........an intelligent company would let the source code be given out but NOOOOoooo not good old lucasarts GAAAhhh!!!!

SPY_jmr1

11-01-2002, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by Russk Rijann
I wouldn't be suprised if Lucasarts was the only thing holding the source code back....they are so dam stingy when it comes to modding..........an intelligent company would let the source code be given out but NOOOOoooo not good old lucasarts GAAAhhh!!!!

ya tink?:D

capt_barbarian

11-02-2002, 01:38 AM

i happen to love SP mods

The Count

11-02-2002, 03:24 PM

Why not just use the Wired Lamp code? Also did LucasArts ever release the Jedi Knight source code?

ondrahosek

11-02-2002, 05:52 PM

I sense a disturbance in the Force. Oh, there won't be any SP code release? Raven and LucasArts turned Dark Side, didn't they? I will play so long until:
Kenn Hoekstra was sabered by Ondra
If they won't release that code.
But wait:
There are no plans(!!!) to release the single player source code.
If we push them very hard they might, beacuse PLANS aren't always reality. As all the Matrix fans will sure agree:
There is a difference between knowing the path and walking.

Lets squish them a bit then...

TheWhiteRaider

11-02-2002, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by Count_D00ku
Why not just use the Wired Lamp code? Also did LucasArts ever release the Jedi Knight source code?

Yes. The code was in the Gob files on the JK CDs.

Syfo-Dyas

11-03-2002, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by TheWhiteRaider

Yes. The code was in the Gob files on the JK CDs.

Well that doesn't mean they 'released the code'. What it means is that the person or people who developed JED and some of the other less popular editors, found a way to crack the GOB files. It was a hack...

The problem with releasing the SP code is the issue over copyright -I would think. It's not an open source game. It's probably a bit like getting Microsoft to give us the sourcecode for Windows -it'll NEVER happen. There are proprietary trade secrets in that code. You don't just give that away. I mean, you could, and maybe you should -but it's not ncessarily in your best interests to do so.

I think it's damn fine of them to give us the MP source! And if they could give us the animations, it would really help alot.

Has there been another major game release when they handed out the source code?

Sure, we could petition. And petitions can be good ways of getting things done. But if you really want results, you need to stoop to blackmail and bribery. If only we had a mole on the inside...hmmmmm... I'm sure there is a way to get an employee to leak something juicy...