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Ratmjedi
11-14-2002, 02:57 AM
Is there anything that you realized now that you have the movie that you didn't realize when you first saw it?

I didn't realize this but why do you guys think there was a Imperial logo on the Jedi Starfighter and the Attack Ships in EP II?

I also realized that the jetpack that Jango has in the arena isn't like the one that he had before. I know it's not the same that he had before but if you look at it you can see that it doesn't have the little nozzles where the thrust comes out. It looks like a diffrent model of jetpack.

I was also wondering what eye candy or hidden shot's that you have seen in the movie. One that I know is probally really not new but the Death Star hologram that was in the backround in the Genosian scenes way before it is even mentioned.
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Elijah
11-14-2002, 03:00 AM
In the Cantina you see people playing Pod Racer :D among other games...

Ratmjedi
11-14-2002, 03:09 AM
We're they really playing Podracer?

I just thought that they were watching the Podraces like the one in EP I when there are cameras recording it. I guess I will have a another look as I am watching it right now.
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Elijah
11-14-2002, 03:11 AM
Its pod racer... i'd bet my life on it :D

Ratmjedi
11-14-2002, 03:46 AM
From what Console?
I just watched that scene and it doesen't look like the Ep I Racer that I have but that is for N64. Are you talking about a different type?
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Reb Starblazer
11-14-2002, 07:44 AM
The symbol on the Jedi Starfighter is actually the Republic symbol, not the Imperial one. The Republic has eight sections, the Empires only has 6. It just adapts it and changes it once the Empire takes over.

My fourth time through the movie I finally managed to spot Saesee Tinn in the final circle at the end of the Geonosian battle. I've seen posts with people talking about him being there, and I read the "survivors report" on Starwars.com, but I never saw him. Until then. Don't know how I missed the big fella...



Also... I never saw Eeth Koth in the arena at all. I saw another Zabrak(Agen Solar) but not Koth. Did he stay at the temple, or did he die in that battle...

Elijah
11-14-2002, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by Ratmjedi
From what Console?
I just watched that scene and it doesen't look like the Ep I Racer that I have but that is for N64. Are you talking about a different type?
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It looks like Pod Racer for PC... i have that game.

Ratmjedi
11-14-2002, 12:56 PM
Oh ok. I have it for 64 so that was I was like it doesn't look the one I have.
I will check out the symbol next and I never noticed that there was a diffrence in the sections.

One more thing to ask.
Who is Saesee Tinn?
Do you have a picture that I can see?
I might know who it is but I just like pictures more because the faces seem easier to remember than the name.
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Eldritch
11-14-2002, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by ZDawg

It looks like Pod Racer for PC... i have that game.

That's the silliest thing I've ever heard. Why would they spend all this money making Episode II and put a clip from one of their video games in there when they can CG something that looks 10 times better? I think where it's throwing you off is that it freezes and info comes up on the screen. They did this because all televised sports put up stats and other stuff - it makes it look more realistic.

I hope you didn't really stake your life on it. ;)

BCanr2d2
11-15-2002, 03:36 AM
How much of AOTC was still like TPM, where they were still trying to show off what they can do with computer graphics for a movie?

I was watching pieces of the DVD, the weaving through flames is a blatant "show off" scene for ILM, amongst the many scenes that make up the final battles......

acdcfanbill
11-15-2002, 05:21 AM
so, you would only like the movie if it looked like ANH? or just with only limited computer effects, like in say the Last Starfighter :D just wondering why you dont like CG? not that I value CG over models, i really like the walkers in ESB, but CG is the new technology and it does look really good... :D

BCanr2d2
11-15-2002, 06:44 AM
No, I don't like the blatant showing off of what they can do, when there is no real need for it in the movie......

Don't take what I said as against CGI, it isn't, it is against putting in CG shots to just show off that they can render real flames, with heat haze, and have a speeder weave through them........

Samuel Dravis
11-15-2002, 06:24 PM
there was that coke can in the scene where padme & anakin kiss. its in the fence laying on its side. :p

Eldritch
11-15-2002, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by BCanr2d2
No, I don't like the blatant showing off of what they can do, when there is no real need for it in the movie......

Don't take what I said as against CGI, it isn't, it is against putting in CG shots to just show off that they can render real flames, with heat haze, and have a speeder weave through them........

And you don't think that they put the flames in there just because it made the chase scene more interesting? I think it just showed off Anakin's skills as a pilot, plus it was more dramatic. That's what they do in movies. Dramatize.

BCanr2d2
11-15-2002, 08:41 PM
There are plenty of other ways that could've been used to show that same thing without having to give ILM a chance to show off their wizardry just for the sake of it......

My first reaction was when I saw it "Didn't realise that ILM could do that", not how good Anakin steers through it, he had already shown that by flying through traffic.........

To weave in and out flames as you chase someone is to only take the longer route, therefore droppiong further behind, or does that defy logic?!

Bob Gnarly
11-15-2002, 08:47 PM
if you keep picking at the movie it will suck and eventually be nothing left cause you just kept picking and picking and picking......

BCanr2d2
11-15-2002, 08:52 PM
I am just commenting on one scene which I think was tacked on for no real reason, same result but weaving around buildings gives us the same result, but not the same eye candy...........

Overall ILM did a fantastic job, giving the movie a lot more dirty, smudgy feel, that the GFFA is falling into ruin. Everything is clouded over, or dusty, or unlcear.......

teutonicknight
11-16-2002, 04:03 AM
To weave in and out flames as you chase someone is to only take the longer route, therefore droppiong further behind, or does that defy logic?!

Would you rather write a complaint letter to ILM and change it so they drive strait thourgh the flames?

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Elijah
11-16-2002, 04:08 AM
i saw it again today... i still think it looks like the game.

BCanr2d2
11-16-2002, 04:11 AM
Or would it make more sense to fly over them, not around or through them?

C'mon guys, don't take it out on me for something, in my opinion just seems like something that the movie could've done without, with NO change in how the movie plays, and what it is trying to tell. Perhaps if we had seen Zam do the same thing, and he was just following her, that would make complete sense. All it is that we see is Ani flying in and around flames for no real reason when his best intention is to catch Zam....

OR is it somehow GL's way of showing Ani is arrogant with his skill, when chasing, still has the time to showboat through flames?! I doubt it........

As for writing to ILM, it is GL who would've approved the use of the shot..... He would've said - yeah, that looks great, we have never shown that in an SW movie, why not.....

acdcfanbill
11-16-2002, 04:51 AM
Well, i have to agree, that scene did bother me a bit, the weaving only would make sense for anakins charcter >_<

Redwing
11-16-2002, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by Ratmjedi

I also realized that the jetpack that Jango has in the arena isn't like the one that he had before. I know it's not the same that he had before but if you look at it you can see that it doesn't have the little nozzles where the thrust comes out. It looks like a diffrent model of jetpack.


It is indeed. ^_^ Both models are in the Visual Dictionary. I think the second one looks really shibby ^_^

<|DLS|>Darth Fett
11-16-2002, 07:06 AM
uhh i havent seen the NEW DIGITAL REMASTERD vesion of AOTC, but heres a question.
Whats the point of it being "digitaly remasterd" wat does "digitaly remasterd" even mean, im stumped :confused:

have u seen the comercial for it. ITS SO CHEESEY! "Who da man, Yo Da Man!" i dunno maybe u guys dont get that comercial, but thats f00king halarious!

Mex
11-16-2002, 09:06 AM
I havent seen the commercial yet, I want to though,

Sounds really funny

Kstar__2
11-16-2002, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by Filler_Fett
uhh i havent seen the NEW DIGITAL REMASTERD vesion of AOTC, but heres a question.
Whats the point of it being "digitaly remasterd" wat does "digitaly remasterd" even mean, im stumped :confused:


it means that it has been optimalized for DVD(both sound and image)

BCanr2d2
11-16-2002, 10:31 AM
In fact, digitally remastering is adjusting the original source, so that it suits the media it is being placed upon. CD's can be digitally remastered, from their usual or older analogue source, so that they can be cleaned up from the original tapes.
Digital remastering is usually converting the original source into a digital form, then fixing up whatever problems there are, and using this new "master" as the source for the final copy.

So in simple terms, to digitally remaster is to play around with the digital "master" that will be used to copy the DVD's/CD's that will be copied from it......

As for AOTC, digital remastering sounds like a catchphrase to please the masses. It is from a digital master, and is converted to a digital medium, there is no real remastering here. Unless they are calling the transfer from the original digital print into the MPEG-2 standards on a DVD remastering........

Samuel Dravis
11-16-2002, 02:41 PM
yeah that commercial is funny.:D
who da man? yoda da man!!

teutonicknight
11-16-2002, 04:34 PM
Actually, it's

"Who da Man?"

"Yoda man!"

Ratmjedi
11-26-2002, 08:04 PM
I found out were the X-Wing is being chased by 3 TIE Fighters. It was at 16:58 on my DVD player. It's when Anakin is diving with Obi-Wan next to him and you can see that triangle shape on Coruscant and it is very bright. If you look to left there is a trench that is going up and down on the screen. The next shot you have to zoom in to the left of the screen like in the middle. It is hard to spot them but it is awesome. Thank God that I was watching the comentary. It told me where it was at. You really do learn a lot from watching the movie with the comentary on. Jedi Monk no wonder you know so much. :thumbsup:
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leXX
11-26-2002, 08:34 PM
Ah wicked! I'm gonna stick on the DVD soon and look for that! Thnx :D

One thing I spotted, when the Jedi are getting onto the gunship with Yoda, you see a few Jedi get on such as Luminara and a few others but then they just seem to disapear because only Mace, Kit and Ki get off it!

Sivy
11-26-2002, 08:57 PM
well i was watching it the other day and i notice that in the outlanders' club there is a woman who looks a lot like 'the woman in the red dress' from the matrix, he has the same hair and looks, i'm sure it's the same woman only she was wearing a green dress instead of red.

leXX
11-26-2002, 09:12 PM
Oh yeah, from the AOTC forums...

In the bar scene, we see George Lucas's daughter (the pink twi'lek that eyes Anakin as he walks past), Anthony Daniels (C3PO), the guy that plays Jar Jar (black guy standing with the pink twi'lek - Achmed Best) and Amy Allen (Aayla Secura - she is wearing a red dress and odd headpiece). The guy that asks Obi if he wants to buy some deathstick (Elan Sleazebaggano) is Matt Doran, the guy that plays Mouse in the Matrix. ;)

Sivy, I have a favour to ask you, I will PM you.

Ratmjedi
11-26-2002, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by Sivy B
well i was watching it the other day and i notice that in the outlanders' club there is a woman who looks a lot like 'the woman in the red dress' from the matrix, he has the same hair and looks, i'm sure it's the same woman only she was wearing a green dress instead of red.

I was looking for that when you told me and I think I know who you are talking about. It is real hard to see but you could go threw the credit's from the Matrix and EP II to see if it is her.
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lightspeed
11-26-2002, 10:01 PM
You learn something new every day:D

Ratmjedi
11-26-2002, 10:29 PM
I have just watched the EP I DVD with the Comentary and there are scenes in there too. Like there is a little bunch of E.T.'s in the movie. So cool when you watch movies with Comentary's. I think that I am going to go through all of my movies and watch the ones with the Comentary's.
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SpYzEr
11-26-2002, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Ratmjedi


I also realized that the jetpack that Jango has in the arena isn't like the one that he had before. I know it's not the same that he had before but if you look at it you can see that it doesn't have the little nozzles where the thrust comes out. It looks like a diffrent model of jetpack.

Actually, its not the same as before. In the Kamino battle, he lost his jetpack. He must have made or got a new one:D

Ratmjedi
11-26-2002, 10:47 PM
I know but you would of thought that he would of replaced it with a identical one. The one that Boba had in EP VI was exactly like the one that Jango had before it blew. That is something that I would of that would of been a given but it looks like a cheap knock off. I noticed that the top was diffrent in a picture that I saw and it wasn't because the missle had already been launched. :confused:
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BCanr2d2
11-27-2002, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by leXX
Oh yeah, from the AOTC forums...

.....The guy that asks Obi if he wants to buy some deathstick (Elan Sleazebaggano) is Matt Doran, the guy that plays Mouse in the Matrix. ;)


Not surprising that the extras are similar in both movies, both shot at Fox Studios here in Australia. There are only so many actors in Australia that are of any decent quality.

I wonder in the next installments of both The Matrix and Star Wars how many actors will be crossing over. They were/are being shot relatively close to each other timewise, so if they are in Sydney, why pass it up......

I just keep watching the start over and over again, since I have I have a 6.1 capable stereo at home, love the sound of the subwoofer at the start - the cruiser - very much like a 747 or jet of that ilk, and the explosion.
Many of those little "tributes" as I'd call them - Ie Ahmed Best, GL and other characters in the movie are too hard to spot for my liking. Then again if they were obvious it would seem out of place.

Does anyone know where the sound effect that is in all movies is placed this time around? I can't remember what they called it though....

Ratmjedi
12-03-2002, 09:46 PM
I also just found out that the kid in the Jedi Archives who get's the old lady away from Obi-Wan is the same kid that played the Spoon Boy in The Matrix.
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DiRtY $oUtH™
12-03-2002, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by Ratmjedi
I also just found out that the kid in the Jedi Archives who get's the old lady away from Obi-Wan is the same kid that played the Spoon Boy in The Matrix.
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Are you serious? I'll have to take a seond look..

Sivy
12-03-2002, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Ratmjedi
I also just found out that the kid in the Jedi Archives who get's the old lady away from Obi-Wan is the same kid that played the Spoon Boy in The Matrix.
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well that's george lucas' son, it said so in the Extras web documentary

Ratmjedi
12-04-2002, 02:47 AM
Well from what I understood Lucas's son was one of the Jedi that was being instructed by Yoda when Obi-Wan came. I am not sure if I am am right cause I got the info off of a site that had info about EP II. I looked through the credit's but it doesn't have much info because cause there were so many cameo's and the list would of kept going on forever. I watched the screen and it did look like the Spoon Boy but I am not sure cause he had hair and I also do not know what Lucas'a son looks like.
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Ratmjedi
12-05-2002, 01:53 AM
Samuel L. Jackson allegedly had the initials BMF engraved on his Lightsaber. BMF stands for "Bad Mother ******.
Any other thing's that you guy's know about the movie?
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