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=|PL|=Stalker
11-17-2002, 10:01 PM
who reckons JKII is dying
and it needs a new patch

i think bringing out a new patch will return many players who left at the releae of 1.04

i want 1.05 to come out dammit!!!

-s/<itzo-
11-17-2002, 10:06 PM
i'm with you.

MysticSpade
11-17-2002, 10:22 PM
i find the game becoming a bit stagnent. i only play the game now to use the new models that come out. that is it.

obi
11-17-2002, 10:27 PM
Beh!

JKII is not dieing. In fact, I find the JKII community to be prosperous right now.


I think it is at a high point.

Tyrion
11-17-2002, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by obi-wan13
Beh!

JKII is not dieing. In fact, I find the JKII community to be prosperous right now.


I think it is at a high point.

Obi's gone insane.

XylanKasshu00
11-17-2002, 10:42 PM
I'm new to the forums, but I'll give my two cents. I believe that another patch would be excellent, but maybe kind of bad. Something else taken away or a lame "advancement". I'd suggest some of the modder's making an ultimate mod, with the same calibur as Jedimod but, without the numerous and pointless updates.

obi
11-17-2002, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by Tyrion


Obi's gone insane.

Forgive me for sticking up for this when many say it is dead.
It wouldn't be dead if people would stop saying it was.

JediNyt
11-17-2002, 10:53 PM
Im with you guys, its getting really old and not fun anymore. They need to make it more realistic. Its become Quake with lightsabers. Nothing but bull**** bull**** bull**** as I play. How about some real saber fighting. Real saber moves, saber contact, and damage. Whats with the guns in that game? Lame! You can practically outrun a blaster shot! And even if you dont it doesnt matter cause it hardly puts a scratch on you! Time for SW games to get real! You get nailed with a saber or shot in the torso or head you die! Simple as that.

Sivy
11-17-2002, 10:54 PM
welcome to the swamp XylanKasshu00 :wavey:



the fact that there hadn't been a patch since 1.04 makes me think that maybe an expansion pack is being made or they are working on big improvements instead of just tweaking little things.

Elijah
11-18-2002, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by obi-wan13
Beh!

JKII is not dieing. In fact, I find the JKII community to be prosperous right now.


I think it is at a high point.

I totally agree.
JKII is not dying... At all

JediNyt
11-18-2002, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by Sivy B
The fact that there hadn't been a patch since 1.04 makes me think that maybe an expansion pack is being made or they are working on big improvements instead of just tweaking little things.

I sure hope so man. I havent played that game in a long while. I usually play Avp2 and UT2K3 now. Oh and most recently Raven Shield.:D

BigTeddyPaul
11-18-2002, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by JediNyt
Im with you guys, its getting really old and not fun anymore. They need to make it more realistic. Its become Quake with lightsabers. Nothing but bull**** bull**** bull**** as I play. How about some real saber fighting. Real saber moves, saber contact, and damage. Whats with the guns in that game? Lame! You can practically outrun a blaster shot! And even if you dont it doesnt matter cause it hardly puts a scratch on you! Time for SW games to get real! You get nailed with a saber or shot in the torso or head you die! Simple as that.

I agree about the saber moves. To me blue is only good for its special and yellow has some advantage. Red s supposed to be awesome attack (it does) but lame defense which is not true unless you count the seconds that you are vulnerable to attacks when you swing.

If you think weapons are lame how about you fight me with your saber and I fight you with my weapons. We could then if you can outrun my weapons.



It is not dying. It is merely not as exciting as it once was because it is old. I still get my kicks out of playing Tie FIghter so this game will never get old with me.


BigTeddyPaul

Datheus
11-18-2002, 05:33 AM
First, JK2 is not dying.

Besides, if they patch it, there's the potential of TRUELY killing it, because the patch is so bad. Besides, LA would never authorize a new patch just because a game community is dying. They already got their fat, greedy fingers on our money.

What the game needs is for some of these total conversion mods to finish. Also, the SP and animation codes need to be released. If new and good mods would come out, I'm sure many of the people that have left would play again.

Pad
11-18-2002, 08:32 AM
hmm, i also dont think jkII is dead. when i get a new computer ill be playin that game till i get sick off it. its maybe a good thing to release a new patch so ppl who left will start playing it again.

btw, welcome to the forums XylanKasshu00
hope u enjoy ur stay.
have a yoda on me!!! (http://www.starwars.hasbro.com/product_images/27743_b.jpg)

obi
11-18-2002, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by JediNyt
Im with you guys, its getting really old and not fun anymore. They need to make it more realistic. Its become Quake with lightsabers. Nothing but bull**** bull**** bull**** as I play. How about some real saber fighting. Real saber moves, saber contact, and damage. Whats with the guns in that game? Lame! You can practically outrun a blaster shot! And even if you dont it doesnt matter cause it hardly puts a scratch on you! Time for SW games to get real! You get nailed with a saber or shot in the torso or head you die! Simple as that.

All right, what would you do? How would you better the game, if it is even possible. What do you want? Saber only all the way? That would kill those who RP.

Do you want saber move improvements? Well, look at combat in JKI and JKII. Tell me they didn't improve dramatically. You can't, because they did.

For those who think JKII to be dead, there is no reason to come here saying it is, when millions of people play online every day of the week on this Earth.

Tyrion
11-18-2002, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by obi-wan13


All right, what would you do? How would you better the game, if it is even possible. What do you want? Saber only all the way? That would kill those who RP.

Do you want saber move improvements? Well, look at combat in JKI and JKII. Tell me they didn't improve dramatically. You can't, because they did.

For those who think JKII to be dead, there is no reason to come here saying it is, when millions of people play online every day of the week on this Earth.

Meh. Dont ask that question. We are not the developers....

Oh,and I could've sworn that there were only thousands still playing every day...

STTCT
11-18-2002, 09:54 AM
:eek: u guys pissed obi off!!!!

:eek: i dont' think you should call JK2 dead.

For one thing - I want the game but the price is keepin me from it...its still 49.99. For a game thats dead...why isn't it on sale yet huh???! The newness just wore off the game is all...it happens to every game. Its the "been there done that" syndrome. The only cure for that is go get yourself a new game. Play that for awhile and then come back to JK2 and waaalaaa the newness magically comes back. God its been a heck of a morning. I want to go home and go to freekin bed.

obi
11-18-2002, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by STTCT

For one thing - I want the game but the price is keepin me from it...its still 49.99. For a game thats dead...why isn't it on sale yet huh???! The newness just wore off the game is all...it happens to every game. Its the "been there done that" syndrome. The only cure for that is go get yourself a new game. Play that for awhile and then come back to JK2 and waaalaaa the newness magically comes back. God its been a heck of a morning. I want to go home and go to freekin bed.

*high fives STTCT*

That's what I'm talkin about. I couldn't have said so better myself.

@Ty: I didn't ask how he owuld code/make such things, I only asked what improvements he wanted. That is a fair question to ask players that think it to be dead.

PhantomHelix
11-18-2002, 10:16 AM
its not necessarily dying, but it isnt as strong or influential any more. if they manage to get the SP source codes out, JKII will be in full force once again, if not stronger than before......

Hekx
11-18-2002, 12:04 PM
Most people seem to be going over to play UT2003, but where's the sabers in that?
I have one game installed on my PC, which is JK2 :)

It would be nice if they could add a patch / expansion with more saber moves (not stances though, it takes long enough to cycle through 5 ;))
I was thinking about adding more spinny type combos to the game, like in EP1 and EP2. Maybe some moves that leave your back facing the enemy so you can pull off a backstab :)

JK2 may be getting old, but I still find it enjoyable. :)
With all the models / maps / skins / files coming out, it's like Christmas everyday :D

=|PL|=Stalker
11-18-2002, 12:19 PM
more realistic is the way to go i think

one saber hit and your a gonner.. maybe if you get hit inthe arm you can still run around and ****. but if you get hit in the legs your a gonner. and stuff i dunno. more realistic

all they had to do was get rid of the force pull bug and leave bs and they woulda been right.. cmon who does a bs. and DOESNT MOVE? its very lame. man if i had a saber and had 16 people up my ass with red stance. i wouldnt be backstabbing and standign there man id be runnin for muh life. i mean. your FREAKIGN JEDI your not `100 year old grandmother who cant move. cmon man. bring back the good **** from 1.03

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY EDITED 1.04 SERVERS TO MAKE THEM 1.03 huh? HUH? yeah. yuo dont call that dieing. people are going back to the old patch cos 1.04 is lame

Mex
11-18-2002, 12:52 PM
I have to play 1.04 patch, because when ever I play 1.02 or 1.03, my computer crashes after ever map change, and if I could play 1.02 or 1.03, I would.

But Jedi Outcast is not dying, dying is like when 1, or 100 or maybe 500 people are playing.

This will die in about a year-6 months though, because Xbox Live will be out, and other new and good games. :)

Agen
11-18-2002, 01:01 PM
It's not dead. nowhere near dead. Not when there is 8000 people on.

PhantomHelix
11-18-2002, 01:04 PM
yeah, ther is 8000 ppl, but they arent as enthusiastic anymore, save for a few fanatics........i hope raven does something soon..

XERXES
11-18-2002, 01:08 PM
i believe it is dying. All my friends who played it avidly along with me during the summer have all found better games to play now (NWN, UT2K3, AoM etc)

I dont even have JK2 installed anymore:eek: but it just doesnt hold my atention anymore, like it used to.

XERXES
11-18-2002, 01:10 PM
and besides Star Wars Galaxies is coming out soon....and it will deffinately take over JK2, trust me. My friend is beta testing it...and let me just say this...the posibilities are endless.....

Agen
11-18-2002, 01:12 PM
yeah, ther is 8000 ppl, but they arent as enthusiastic anymore, save for a few fanatics........i hope raven does something soon..

No-one is as enthusiastic as they were about a game when it's 8 months old. People play it and still enjoy and that's the main point.

Mex
11-18-2002, 01:21 PM
Pfft, I dont enjoy it any more.... None of my freinds do either..

You know why? LAMERS!

C'jais
11-18-2002, 04:35 PM
As silly as it sounds, I too think the problem is the lamers that have taken over the servers, and the good guys turned bad.

No matter what duel server I log on to, it's always the same: People hate winners. Whenever some guy is ruling the scoreboard, he gets snide remarks from the dudes in the queue.
People loathe each other for winning over them while not utilizing the style of play they envision.

I've always been quite unorthodox in my play style, refraining from using red stance, lunges and backstabs - the consequence: People resent me when I win, I sometimes get bullied out of servers and I usually recieve nothing but loathing for my playing style.

I don't like the other gametypes because, well, the thought of not being able to use the saber as an effective weapon in a star wars game appales me. And the whole duel idea is very fresh instead of those senseless carnages I've seen in every other game.

No, the game is not dying, but it has lost it's charm in my eyes.

Mex
11-18-2002, 04:39 PM
Yeah, ive had the same trouble,
Some guy with about 650 kills, [he was on for about 10 hours!]
He was slaughtering EVERYONE!
People called him gay, dumb, crap, and other things!
The question I ask is, why! :cry8:
Ive only moaned at one winner in a duel, because he lamed, when you bowed he lunged at you, he swore, he eventually got banned, which was a very very good thing! :cheers:

And I really do hope Raven does make a new patch tho,
Bring back the fun!

Agen
11-18-2002, 05:03 PM
I rarely go onto any other servers now because they're msotly filed with people who jsut want to win and more or less hate me for not attacking first......

XERXES
11-18-2002, 05:09 PM
after seeing SWG...i am certian it will take over you guys in this board.

Bob Gnarly
11-18-2002, 05:11 PM
a patch is to improve a game not for the hell of having one

JandoFett1842
11-18-2002, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Sivy B
welcome to the swamp XylanKasshu00 :wavey:



the fact that there hadn't been a patch since 1.04 makes me think that maybe an expansion pack is being made or they are working on big improvements instead of just tweaking little things.

:wstupid:

With the way that it already sold, LA is deffinetly making an xpak (i think/hope/pray)! And JK2 is not dieing, just all the games now are fricken saber games instead of fricken guns and saber games

C'jais
11-18-2002, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by XERXES
after seeing SWG...i am certian it will take over you guys in this board.

The thing that bugs me with those online games is that they expect you to pay a monthly fee after you bought the damn game.

I used to respect Blizzard so much for making quality games, now that they're developing a console action game off the starcraft universe and milking customers by releasing an online RPG - I've lost nearly everything for them.

Warcraft3 didn't last long for me, the 3d engine was slow and unwieldy, not to mention completely destroyed the realism that Starcraft had built up with regards to proportions and terrain. Blizzard's only redemption now, is to make a darn good Starcraft 2 :p

Sorry for going off topic, felt like ranting.... :(

JandoFett1842
11-18-2002, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Cjais




Warcraft3 didn't last long for me, the 3d engine was slow and unwieldy, not to mention completely destroyed the realism that Starcraft had built up with regards to proportions and terrain. Blizzard's only redemption now, is to make a darn good Starcraft 2 :p


IF you haven tryed Age of Mytholoygy yet 2 get the faster 3d rts engine you should, they have one of the best engines yet


And yeah, its going 2 suck that they charge for SWG monthly, so there goes my intrest, im not buying it! plus its lucas arts first giant rpg so the engine is going to run slow or not even run on anything but the newest comps, im not buying a new comp just to play a game that charges mounthly for playing. Back to the first rpg, LA's first games arnt usaly good wen they just get into a new area (first rts Force commander)

Darklighter
11-18-2002, 06:23 PM
Lucasarts need to release an Expansion Pack to get the players back. They should cram in loads of new SP levels, MP skins/mods/levels, and a bunch of extras:D

C'jais
11-18-2002, 06:26 PM
Every popular game gets an Xp-pack. Why shouldn't JK2?

It'd be commercial suicide not to.

Jah Warrior
11-18-2002, 06:34 PM
jk2? its as dead as dillinger!

I have no interest in it what so ever anymore. It was good while it lasted but you just gotta move on, A patch wont help either. Artifex's promod was the last hope but he's spent so long trying to get it right that all the players have left now.

Anyways nuff of this doom and gloom, I'll see ya on UT2k3

C'jais
11-18-2002, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by Jah Warrior
I'll see ya on UT2k3

You're getting UT2k3? Yipeeee! :p

Man, I gotta upgrade my rusty POS soon...

Yeah, Jk2 was good while it lasted and will always rank high amongst my all time fave games.

Clem
11-18-2002, 07:23 PM
jah

<hopeful look>

does that mean hermes could be a UT2k3 server?!

</hopeful look>

:) esp. now i got a GF4 Ti4200 so i can see whats happenin

ZePhyR
11-19-2002, 01:56 AM
dead: No
dying: Yes

=|PL|=Stalker
11-19-2002, 07:29 PM
alright i dont normally bag out games jsut cos of a patch. but its defenetly dying. and people are laming.. thats the purpose of my clan. to bring non-lamers to a gaming community they can join and have ****en FUN!!!!