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El Sitherino
11-28-2002, 02:06 AM
Ok i just got permission from absath to publicly edit the mando model. i have already done work on jango you can see my progress here (http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/JOFaF/lst)

mariners2001
11-28-2002, 02:16 AM
Sorry. I was too busy looking at the babes on your site. You say there are Jango pics too? ;)

j/k - looks nice.

El Sitherino
11-28-2002, 02:26 AM
thanks yeah ive been working on fixing up stuff to make my own jetpack model. im gonna make jangos 2nd jetpack he has on geonosis and a generic jetpack.

SpYzEr
11-28-2002, 10:21 AM
Looks nice. Could you see if you can fix the saber problem on all the regular Mandalorians? That would be great.

Toonces
11-28-2002, 12:32 PM
He'll be able to do that, it was just a silly little mistake that's easy to fix

Good luck Sith :)

El Sitherino
11-28-2002, 02:14 PM
thanks toonces. oh hey i forget how to fix that bone thing i knew earlier but i fell asleep while working and i forgot. im gonna work on the model some more today after my thanksgiving dinner (we eat early so dont worry):edit: ok i uploaded a test .glm onto my site. if anyone wants to look at it they are welcome to go :edit:here to get it (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JOFaF/files/my%20wip/)

El Sitherino
11-29-2002, 08:29 PM
heres a shot of the latest work ive done (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/g_8309968/Jango_edit(BETA).jpg?bc2l6D.Ae1dES17a) heres another with some textures applied (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/g_8309968/Jango_edit(BETA)2.jpg?bc2l6D.AXnQTSXUY)
:edit: can yall please respond i want to hear everything you have to say.:edit:

Dark Warrior
11-29-2002, 11:03 PM
looks pretty good, i like it!:)

I also like the babes on ur site :D

El Sitherino
11-29-2002, 11:24 PM
yeah me too. ok anyways is anyone willing to skin this?

El Sitherino
11-30-2002, 01:13 AM
ok i put up an unskinned version of my model. its on my site go here (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JOFaF/files/my%20wip/)

Matt-Liell
11-30-2002, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
yeah me too. ok anyways is anyone willing to skin this?

i could always try! i already made a jango skin so another one should be easy!

El Sitherino
11-30-2002, 01:30 PM
thanks yad... i mean matt. you can get the beta version at my site i and i will be taking it down soon so hurry. and ill send you either the 3ds or whatever format you want it in. ok

Lord Tnuc
11-30-2002, 04:14 PM
Ask T3rror and/or Arco about skinning. They seem to enjoy it.

Matt-Liell
11-30-2002, 04:18 PM
i got the file ill start skinning it in my spare time!

El Sitherino
11-30-2002, 04:25 PM
ok cool look forward to seeing your work matt.

Matt-Liell
11-30-2002, 04:50 PM
well i see it isnt UVW mapped so ill have to do that, and it may take awhile! i need either a .md3 or .gmax or a .3ds file of your model before i can skin it k?

El Sitherino
11-30-2002, 05:07 PM
ok. ill send them right now oh and would like to skin the mohawk mando edit also?

El Sitherino
11-30-2002, 05:22 PM
ok go here (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JOFaF/files/my%20wip/) and click jango_edit

Hellfire Jedi
11-30-2002, 05:42 PM
InsaneSith dude...
Ur Helmet less pk3 beta is missing the umm.... .skin file

El Sitherino
11-30-2002, 06:01 PM
yeah i know matts workin on it as we speak.

Matt-Liell
11-30-2002, 08:16 PM
you were lucky insanesith! i just learned how to UVW map successfully this morning! yesterday i wouldnt have been able to help! im working on this right now, after that ill start skinning it! but this might take a week or so is that ok? maybe even more, but that is the price for a good skin!;) :D

Matt-Liell
11-30-2002, 08:32 PM
just to keep u guys up to date here, i have finished UVW Mapping the model! now i have to start skinning it! i will keep u updated! i got that UVW Mapping done faster than i tought only took me about 10 minutes!:D

El Sitherino
11-30-2002, 08:57 PM
cool look forward to it yadu oh and did you check the mohawk one i wanna get an opinion on it.

Matt-Liell
11-30-2002, 09:16 PM
no i didnt yet but i will soon! i just want to get the basics of the skin done! i did the holsters with a leather texture and the hands with a texture from his gloves from the movie! sorry no pics yet!;) im going to post some tommorow when i get more of it done but it looks great! nice model btw!

Matt-Liell
11-30-2002, 11:15 PM
well i was going to wait but ill post an update anyway!:D after just a couple hours this is what i have, not too bad if i do say so myslef! i worked mostly on the face this time to make it look like jango! (copy and paste link) www.geocities.com/yaduskins/helmetlessjango.jpg

El Sitherino
12-01-2002, 12:07 AM
hey matt could you send me those pics i couldnt see em my email is here (SirFobos2021@yahoo.com)

Matt-Liell
12-01-2002, 07:26 AM
i sent it to ya! ill keep posting updates when i have em!:D

Mex
12-01-2002, 10:11 AM
Erm, excuse me, but what has happened to his face?
It seems a little Bumpy :confused:

El Sitherino
12-01-2002, 10:52 AM
Oh man crap ok i just realised i forgot to rig it to get it in game. i dont have enough room on my hard drive to reinstall 3dsm either so if someone could fix it up for me that would be nice.

Matt-Liell
12-01-2002, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by Flanders
Erm, excuse me, but what has happened to his face?
It seems a little Bumpy :confused:

what do u mean?

UPDATES!:D well i worked on it more and now i have the base skin for the upper torso, keep in mind that the cloth on his sleeves r just a flat shade of purple for now and i will improve it, same goes for his armour i will make it look better but see what u think!
(copy and paste links)

www.geocities.com/yaduskins/helmetlessjango2.jpg
www.geocities.com/yaduskins/helmetlessjango3.jpg

El Sitherino
12-01-2002, 11:32 AM
good job matt thats nice.

Matt-Liell
12-01-2002, 12:21 PM
Updates yet again! (good arent i?) Well you'll all be pleased to know i have the BASE SKIN done for the entire model!

*cheers, whistleing, applause, crowds screaming for joy*

I improved his armour and finished up all the other stuff too! i had to redo some UV Maps though to get more detail. all his cloth clothes, (sleeves pants etc.) are all flat shaded right now but dont worry, ill get to textures right away! the only things im going to completely redo are his eyes, which make his whole face look weird but when corrected it looks great but im still going to redo them. (in the pics he has his old eyes) and the jetpack probably. in the second pic u can see the jetpack is there but its not his, its bobas! i just put it there to see the entire skin together, if u want it to stay like that though insanesith just tell me! well after that long explaination here r the pics! i think this is the best skinning job ive ever done!:D (again, copy and paste links!) (depending on when u see this the pics may not be viewable, my site has exceeded data transfer but they will work in an hour! dont worry you'll see them today!:D)

www.geocities.com/yaduskins/helmetlessjango4.jpg
www.geocities.com/yaduskins/helmetlessjango5.jpg

El Sitherino
12-01-2002, 01:27 PM
i saw em its comin along nicely matt. im lookin at getting this rigged for game i forgot to get it rigged but the problem is i dont know how to set it on the skeleton. if anyone can help me please let me know cuz i decided im gonna fix my comp up so i can reinstall 3dsm.

Matt-Liell
12-01-2002, 02:10 PM
Ive been working non-stop to get him finished and here he is! he is ALMOST finished except for the jetpack! insanesith do u want to keep it as this jetpack he has on or me skin jangos acctual one? about getting it rigged u have to wait till im done then i have to give the .gmax file to the person who will put it ingame, cause my file has th UVW Maps on it! Well here r some pics!

www.geocities.com/yaduskins/helmetlessjango6.jpg
www.geocities.com/yaduskins/helmetlessjango7.jpg

El Sitherino
12-01-2002, 03:06 PM
i like it it looks cool but do whatever you want for the jetpack.

El Sitherino
12-01-2002, 03:26 PM
sorry bout this but i need someone with 3dsm to get the model ingame apparently i still dont have enough room for it and also i dont know how to rig it to the skeleton.

Matt-Liell
12-01-2002, 04:04 PM
itll take some time for the jetpack, meanwhile try to find someone who can put it ingame from my .gmax file!

El Sitherino
12-01-2002, 04:08 PM
ok im workin on that.

Matt-Liell
12-01-2002, 06:50 PM
well i decided to change the jetpack so i took some textures of my own and some textures from the old jango skin (the only one taking from a past skin) and voila! www.geocities.com/yaduskins/helmetlessjango8.jpg

any takers on putting it in jk2 insanesith? cause its done now! i worked non-stop to get this finished looks good do u guys agree?

El Sitherino
12-01-2002, 07:05 PM
loooks sweet. and no i havent man maybe toonces will i dont know i havent been able to ask him.

Matt-Liell
12-01-2002, 07:08 PM
well keep trying!:D ill contact some people too, this model was a great idea btw! and thanks for the opportunity to create a skin from scratch and to let me show my ture skill, and for helping me improve that skill!

El Sitherino
12-01-2002, 07:22 PM
yeah no problem it was good workin with ya and i like the skin.

Matt-Liell
12-01-2002, 07:23 PM
np! glad u like the skin!:D

Darsha_x1
12-01-2002, 07:45 PM
is there any way possable to edit the model from the waste down,, because ,,i think that the pants are just way to tight , they should be a littel more baggy,and the shoes are just plane horrable on the model...

El Sitherino
12-02-2002, 06:36 PM
oh so thats it folks you like the model until it needs your help? hmmmm..... guess ill just have to hold this. i make an attempt to become a modeler and my dreams get crushed......*mumbles* savages.

Matt-Liell
12-02-2002, 06:38 PM
please guys help us out! this always happens to me! please if u have 3dsm please take a bit of time to help us out!

El Sitherino
12-02-2002, 11:11 PM
ok matt i found a guy who is gonna put it in game for us but i need you to send him all the stuff since you got the skin and all he needs it in .md3 ok. its duncan.

Matt-Liell
12-03-2002, 08:03 AM
what is his email?

El Sitherino
12-03-2002, 06:03 PM
check in the gir model beta thread thats where you can get it. sorry but my internet is on the fritz and i wanna be able to use it for only what i need to get done like load my model onto my site and post updates sorry but well

Matt-Liell
12-04-2002, 07:50 AM
k, ill just finish up the skin an export it as an .md3 and send it to him tonight if i can!

Master_Payne
12-05-2002, 12:59 PM
Now that is "legal" to edit the model, could someone just re-weight him to have a helmet version that works correctly, it may use the same skin, it will only need a skin map for the helmet.
I,m not a modeler and I just want to know if it's possible...

El Sitherino
12-05-2002, 05:45 PM
i edited this from a mando model that i ask permission to edit the model already came with a helmet so the whole helmet thing is pointless. thank you that is all bye

Matt-Liell
12-05-2002, 05:47 PM
just so u know insanesith i sent the file to Ducan (is it the one who made the subulba model? I HOPE SO CAUSE THATS WHO GOT IT!) anyway i havent heard back but i thought id let u know!

El Sitherino
12-05-2002, 05:55 PM
yeah thats him.

Matt-Liell
12-05-2002, 06:20 PM
k ill keep u updated man!:D

El Sitherino
12-05-2002, 08:57 PM
alright cool.

Duncan_10158
12-06-2002, 09:50 PM
I was offline (or offworld?) the last few days, so i am geting the model from Matt-Liell Arroblade at the moment. i probably will get on the work tomorrow. i had not jet the chance to take a look at it, but i am very curios.

Matt-Liell
12-06-2002, 10:06 PM
again, thanks for helping!:D

Duncan_10158
12-07-2002, 09:13 AM
I took a look at the jango model you sent me, Matt-Liell Arroblade and i see a problem.

the skinmaps(UVW) are not done yet. i mean there are skinmaps but they are not done like they should be for making a proper skin. a lot of faces lie across another make it the same skin.

the other thing are usage of skins. you are using one skin for every body part, instad of using one skin for several body parts. this makes the the hole file larger then is have to be.


I can put the model in game as it is now, nut the problems above cant be changed anymore. on the other hand, if you redo the skinmaps you have to redo all the skins, but you could spare skins using same skin for several body parts.

the question is: do you think we should redo the skinmaps?

El Sitherino
12-07-2002, 07:13 PM
hi guys sorry ive been gone for a while ive been busy with school and girls.... anyways im not sure what we should do if you want we can get it in game now and you can send it to me and we can see what we should do we could maybe cut it in parts like release the skin seperately maybe i dont know like ive said before this is my first time going through this kinda thing but whatever yall decide would be ok with me.

Matt-Liell
12-07-2002, 08:33 PM
get it ingame is what i suggest, couple questions though, can we use any of the skins i made? would i have to redo it totally? get it in game for now anyways!

El Sitherino
12-08-2002, 05:37 PM
yeah duncan go ahead and put it in game so we can atleast test it out and ill see if i can get the size down. if not we can go back to the drawing board. but we'll atleast have it or we could put it up for broadbanders or whatever i dont know.

Duncan_10158
12-08-2002, 06:19 PM
ok, can bring the jango model in game like it is now. but to make it clear, then you cant changed the skinmap anymore. it would need a new compilaton with assimilate.

Matt-Liell Arroblade, the skin you made is the best you could bring on the skinmaps. i can hardly belive that it is even posible. it must have been a hell of a work! but if we decide to redo the skinmaps then the skins have to be redone too. doing the skinmaps for this complicated model is a fulltimejob for about a week, and not very funny. i could do it but i have some other things in my to-do queue. and the the skinning again.

this helmetless jango is a very good model, realy worth to bring it out. the problem is you made the skins befor the skinmaps are finished what normaly is imposible, but you somehow made it.
i gone make it as it is now, but to be honest, you will see, its far from what i would call finished.

El Sitherino
12-08-2002, 06:24 PM
alright so whats this mean duncan?(oh what yall think of the new avatar).anyways thanks again guys for helpin me with this.

Matt-Liell
12-08-2002, 06:24 PM
i have no problem with redoing the skins just curious! go ahead and put it in game and ill see what i can do after that!

Hellfire Jedi
12-08-2002, 06:25 PM
Make sure the saber is held right!!!
Also guys u could release a non-correct skinmap version thingy then later on release a redone skinmap thingy :)

Hellfire

Duncan_10158
12-09-2002, 01:40 PM
after a lot of work i finaly brought the jango model in game, but some parts are missing. head, hips, torso, arms and legs are invisible, just missing. in Modview they are there like they should be. i have no idea whats wrong. the model_default.skin file is correct, there is no .surf file wich could make it invisible. the skins are also in the correct format. i have no idea. does somebody know this problem?

Hellfire Jedi
12-09-2002, 02:53 PM
ibelive i know whas wrong....
That normally happens to me when a skin is messsed up.

Helfire

El Sitherino
12-09-2002, 05:01 PM
alright so exactly how do you make a surf file again cuz i knew once but my memory kind of fails me on this.(but what do yall think of my avatar)

Matt-Liell
12-09-2002, 05:11 PM
no comment on avatar, find it weird! (well theres a comment, no offence of course!:D) and just edit an existing .surf with notepad!

El Sitherino
12-09-2002, 05:21 PM
yeah my avatars kind of a inside joke. well like what do i put in the surf file cuz i dont know the surface names?

Matt-Liell
12-09-2002, 05:41 PM
depends what u want to take off.

El Sitherino
12-09-2002, 06:24 PM
i dont wanna take off anything.

Matt-Liell
12-09-2002, 06:33 PM
then what do u want a .surf file for?

El Sitherino
12-09-2002, 06:40 PM
dont know it was mentioned that it might solve the problem but whatever.

Matt-Liell
12-09-2002, 06:42 PM
no he was saying that since there was no .surf file its odd that there are parts missing from the model!:D

El Sitherino
12-09-2002, 06:44 PM
oh sorry im kind of like spacing out a bit.

Matt-Liell
12-09-2002, 06:46 PM
np!:D :p

Duncan_10158
12-09-2002, 07:17 PM
the problem of missing skins is solved, the skins had wrong sizes. now its competly in game. i am sending it now to Matt-Liell Arroblade. i havent your email Insanesith, Matt can pass it to you.
take a look at it, then we can dicuss it.

Hellfire Jedi
12-09-2002, 07:31 PM
The saber held correctly?

Matt-Liell
12-09-2002, 08:04 PM
should i start skinning it now insanesith or do u want this file first?

and sorry i lost your email insanesith can i have it again?

El Sitherino
12-09-2002, 09:50 PM
send it to me now and my email is SirFobos2021@yahoo.com and you can go ahead and make the skin and then send it to me when its finished.

Duncan_10158
12-10-2002, 05:09 PM
Matt-Liell Arroblade, now it makes no sense to make new skins. the skinmaps are not made jet, first somebody needs to put that together. now you could hardly make better skins.
and befor you can bring in the new skinmaps i have to compile it again with assimilate. that is the problem i was talking about.

if you want new skins, you definitly need to make skinmaps.

El Sitherino
12-10-2002, 07:01 PM
ok uhm i put some screenies up on my site you can see them here (http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/jofaf/lst?.dir=/JANGO+HELMETLESS+BETA+SHOTS&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/) ok and duncan i think the problem with the legs popping out and the chest plates popping out is that there are too many things weighted to one vert or at least thats what im told might be the problem but go ahead and check the photos and we can see what we can do and matt i posted a pic on for just one part on the head where we need to paint it black.ok thanks for all the help guys i couldnt have done it without you.peace.

Matt-Liell
12-10-2002, 08:32 PM
ill fix up the skins the best i can sound good? ya the skinmaps werent that good im afraid well we have a choice:

1. Duncan could possibly make new skinmaps and i could rekins it (it may take a long time)

2. Ill fix up the skin as best i can send u the file and we release it like that, what is your choice isanesith and Duncan?

Hellfire Jedi
12-10-2002, 08:37 PM
HI GUYS MY NAME IS HELLFIRE JEDI AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU THAT I HAVE ASKED A COUPLE TIMES IN THE PAST PLEASE ANSWER IT THANKS!!! ;)
Sorry if that sems rude just never could get u guys attention. Is the saber held correctly?

Hellfire

Matt-Liell
12-10-2002, 08:41 PM
99.9% sure man! cause they r all new tags and that was the problem before!;) (read my new rank and tell me what u think!:p)

Hellfire Jedi
12-10-2002, 08:48 PM
ou a mod now Matt? coolio nice rank :rolleyes: im j/k You guys did great
And for a non-skinned model i must say Matt or Yadu you did ****ing good looks a little sketchy on the face but its GOOD.
Never thought i would say this but can u guys like let me beta test it out? If you do thanks!!! blazoor@aol.com my email
I will post pics at
www.geocities.com/mikeman02341/jango
THat is if u guys decide to send me it. I fully agree on any decision u make i just perfer a yes ;) Also i will handle sounds if needed Corto Maltes sounds sound good to u guys?

Matt-Liell
12-10-2002, 08:51 PM
no not a mod i just hate spammers!:mad: :p we'll see if u can beta test and about sounds i think we can use them from my jango skin, it has all the sounds and three movie taunts!

so isanesith we have two things to decide!

1. New skin or not
2. Let him beta test it?

Hellfire Jedi
12-10-2002, 08:53 PM
Dude.....
I wannna tell you something REVOLUTIONARY! ;) MOre than one version :rolleyes: You could release one version of that skin and another of a better Redone one.

Hellfire

Matt-Liell
12-10-2002, 08:58 PM
Interesting thought but we'll have to wait for insanesith to post before i can start anything, be patient!

El Sitherino
12-10-2002, 08:58 PM
new skin and yeah let him beta it. he cool.

Hellfire Jedi
12-10-2002, 08:59 PM
Vice Versa. Both u guys welcome to my budz list

Matt-Liell
12-10-2002, 09:00 PM
alright when i finish the skin ill let him beta test, now do u mean new skinmaps and redo the whole thing or touch up skin? if u want new skinmaps u have to ask duncan to make em!

El Sitherino
12-10-2002, 09:01 PM
either or both.

Hellfire Jedi
12-10-2002, 09:03 PM
Could i get the version thats done now?

Hellfire

El Sitherino
12-10-2002, 09:08 PM
you can get it here (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JOFaF/files/) but it will only be up for a few minutes ok so noone else gets it cuz me email aint workin well.

Hellfire Jedi
12-10-2002, 09:11 PM
Ok clear to delete it now i got it

El Sitherino
12-10-2002, 09:12 PM
ok well ill be off the forums for while now so peace ill check back here around 10 or so thats 2 hours.

Hellfire Jedi
12-10-2002, 09:13 PM
/model jango
Can you change it to /model fett
So ti wont interfere with other jango modelz

Hellfire Jedi
12-10-2002, 09:22 PM
Dude,
I like it you guys did a good job. The purple EWWW ;) j/k. Its good just it looks like one of the eyes is kinda covered by a face cheek. May i gve it to my brother to look at too? He subjested that you guys take off the jetpack too which would be kick ass.

Hellfire

El Sitherino
12-10-2002, 10:42 PM
we can make a surf file for that.

Hellfire Jedi
12-11-2002, 06:23 AM
Exactly ;),
Just you wouldn't need to ask me about that dunno what to do:rolleyes: .
Well i will be using the model a bit see whats wrong whats good thnx fer letting me test it!!!

Hellfire

El Sitherino
12-11-2002, 08:06 AM
your welcome.

El Sitherino
12-11-2002, 02:44 PM
hey guys i wanna let yall know i wont be on for a while and posting i might not even be able to check the forums but yall go ahead and finish get this thing perfect and yall can send it in. Peace :wavey:

Matt-Liell
12-11-2002, 03:22 PM
k well ill finish up the skin (may take a week or so) and ill send it to all of u and yes u to there Fire!

Duncan_10158
12-11-2002, 05:07 PM
sure you can try to redo the skin but it will be very difficult without the new skinmaps. doing these skinmaps will be a very hard work and at the moment i got some other things left to do. it would be also posible to do that with Gmax and sent me just the .uv files.

in this first version we brought in game are surly still some faults, with over 3500 verts the probabilety to make mistakes is very high, so let me know if you find something.

El Sitherino
12-11-2002, 05:26 PM
oh matt you think you could also get the mohawk mando done cuz id like to have that put in game too. sorry bout this this is the last time ill be posting for a while i forgot to put this in my last post.do the skinmaps also or atleast try ill be back in a few days i got in a little situation that is why i will not be on for a while well anyways ill talk to yall later. Peace IM OUT

El Sitherino
12-13-2002, 04:55 PM
YAY my return to the place i call something... yeah ok well thats about it.

El Sitherino
12-14-2002, 03:34 PM
sorry for the tripple post but well i completely redid the mohawk mando and you can go here (http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/jofaf/lst?.dir=/MANDO+EDIT+PICS&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/) to see it.

Matt-Liell
12-14-2002, 03:38 PM
ive been away for awhile and i havent started the touch up on the skin yetr but i will soon when i have some time, it'll be a little longer than expected, sorry guys!:sweat:

El Sitherino
12-14-2002, 03:45 PM
its ok matt. im workin on fixing up the model i noticed some errors so if you want you can continue or i can send you the redone versions you can see the pics in the link i gave above.

El Sitherino
12-14-2002, 10:13 PM
hey guys sorry bout double post but i just installed 3DSM and i was wondering if someone could email me a copy of all the things i need to weight the skeleton and get the model in game. cuz ive followed the tutorial but i still cant see it. thanks thats all.

Matt-Liell
12-17-2002, 12:32 PM
ok, ill wait to skin the revised model then, this time please skinmap it then send it to me! ive been sick for almost a week and ive watched all the Star Wars movies and Indiana Jones movies a million times so i decided to gather some energy and work on some jk2 maps!

El Sitherino
12-17-2002, 05:01 PM
ok sorry but could anyone tell me how to skinmap. i know how to uvwmap and unwrap all that but how do i skin map?

Scotchy
12-19-2002, 12:03 AM
Sith... you tard... I sent you a homemade tutorial about how to skinmap!

You Unwrap it first and then make pictures of the unwrapped bits(at power of 2 sizes 512x512,etc). Those images are what people skin on.

El Sitherino
12-19-2002, 08:08 AM
oh yeah sorry scotch i forgot about that sorry people brain lapse... i got finals this week and im just going insane.

El Sitherino
01-05-2003, 02:06 PM
ok good news ronin is gonna help with the skinmaps and all that good stuff. i found out the reason it didnt work when i did the skinmaps is cuz i got the wrong version of 3dsm. matt id like if you could also try and skin the mohawk one if you up to it. i want the armor to be a red and blackish kinda color or something like the montross armor in bounty hunter for ps2. if you dont know what it looks like check the main site at lucas arts.

Lord Tnuc
01-05-2003, 03:17 PM
An idea for a possible Mandolorian model edit..perhaps, you could edit more of the model that you have, so that the armor has more of a figure...more streamlined..more femenine(spelling). I've seen a picture of a female in mandalorian armor before. I'll try to show you what I'm talking about if I can find the picture.

El Sitherino
01-05-2003, 03:20 PM
yeah i know what you talkin about.

Lord Tnuc
01-05-2003, 03:31 PM
Alright. I found a version of what I'm talking about. Perhaps alternate skins of this maybe like the Jango, the Jinn, etc armor like in the mando pack.


http://www.alltel.net/~sinajax/shanticle1.jpg

El Sitherino
01-05-2003, 03:42 PM
yeah ive seen that before kinda makes me think of bubblegum crisis.

Lord Tnuc
01-05-2003, 03:46 PM
Lol, yeah, the colors don't really produce fear of any sort. Like I said, perhaps reskins of it like the mando models. Basically the same color schemes as the Mando models, perhaps add a few more. Perhaps even custom taunts.

El Sitherino
01-05-2003, 03:52 PM
i got some girls that could make some taunts maybe someone would need to clean the sounds up though.

Lord Tnuc
01-05-2003, 03:58 PM
To me, it sounds great. Having a female mandalorian to run around as and shoot people up as. Perhaps you could also do a no-helmet version, as well of each. Probably the same modeled head and whatnot, but with different skins for hair color and features and such.

El Sitherino
01-05-2003, 04:06 PM
yeah but ill do this after i get the other mandos ingame

Lord Tnuc
01-05-2003, 04:35 PM
Sounds good. Good luck on both the mando models and the female mando model.

El Sitherino
01-08-2003, 06:16 PM
thanks. i hope i can get them ingame before the end of the month.

Lord Tnuc
01-08-2003, 06:39 PM
That's awesome. I could see about finding more reference material for the female mando if you'd like.

El Sitherino
01-08-2003, 06:52 PM
that would be great. thanks tnuc.

Classic Luke
01-08-2003, 11:05 PM
Hiyas all!!! I managed to find a cool female mando pic:) However, I am new to all this thread business, so ill give ya the address of it, i promise u wont be disappointed :)
http://swagonline.net/view.php?photo_id=43&screen=27&action=&keyword=&date=&type=search

Please forgive me if this doesnt work.

Oh yeah, on a side note; I would really love it if the mando sabering animation could be corrected PLEASE :)

pretty PLEASE:))

Lord Tnuc
01-09-2003, 01:09 AM
That's a good finding, Classic Luke. That's the one I'd found originally and was talking about. I've contacted the woman who drew the "bubble gum" female mando, to see if she has more drawings like that, but perhaps more views. Her website makes me think that she'll be rather generous about it. I'm hoping she'll probably be able to give some more drawings of the designs and whatnot.


Btw, welcome to the forums, Classic Luke. I think that'sthe purpose of this mando model edit to begin with, actually..is to first of all, fix the weighting errors.

Anyway. Hope to have more for you tomorrow, Sith. Good luck with life, by the way.

El Sitherino
01-09-2003, 06:29 PM
thanks good job on getting the pic i will be able to do most of it for sure(example the breasts and the helmet.) if you can get a pic of the jetpack i would appreciate it. cuz i noticed the rocket is lower/smaller.

Lord Tnuc
01-09-2003, 07:31 PM
The author wrote back telling me that there were no other drawings other than the ones I've seen. I'll take another look real quick and post the others. I don't think there is a back view, though.




Edit: Here are the other two. She does ask for credit for use of her drawings, though. Cariad Reese is the name. Anyway, here they are.

http://www.alltel.net/~sinajax/shanticle2.jpg
http://www.alltel.net/~sinajax/shanticle3.jpg

El Sitherino
01-09-2003, 08:57 PM
alright im havin a hard time right now oh getting the breasts right. if they are rounded they dont fit right if they look right they are just coney ill keep workin on it but im not sure if i can do it basically there arent enough vertex's around the chest to round it off very well.

El Sitherino
01-09-2003, 09:29 PM
ok im gonna try and edit it onto the jan model and kinda do a combination of the models.

Lord Tnuc
01-09-2003, 09:43 PM
I'm sure the pointy breasts would work fine, since, if you pay attention to Jan's chest anyway...her breasts are quite pointy, with no cleavage.

Classic Luke
01-09-2003, 09:45 PM
Aye, good thinking Insanesith. Btw i dl your glm of the helmetless mando and it looks great! Cant wait to see it in game:)

El Sitherino
01-09-2003, 09:48 PM
well im gonna edit it onto the jan model. im fixin up her breasts right now to fit the basic style of the pic. im about to put her in gmax to do some editing and other stuff.

El Sitherino
01-09-2003, 10:33 PM
ok im gonna post some pics soon for the editing i did on jans face and head. ( i went and lengthened her ponytail and i thinned her face.)

Lord Tnuc
01-09-2003, 10:47 PM
Perhaps you could have it to where the default_skin has the model with a helmet, with no hair showing(as if it's tied under the helmet), and then with helmet variations of each skin, will have no helmet and will have her normal hair and whatnot

El Sitherino
01-09-2003, 11:56 PM
ok to see some shots of my progress on the female mando go here (http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/jofaf/lst?.dir=/MANDO+EDIT+PICS&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/)

Azrael
01-10-2003, 12:52 AM
I found a site a while back that had a lot of Mandalorian references. It's down right now, and I don't know if it'll come back up. But, in case it does, it could really help you out.

http://www.ffurg.com/casting_call/mandalorians.htm

El Sitherino
01-10-2003, 08:25 AM
thanks for helpin out guys. i appreciate it.

Lord Tnuc
01-10-2003, 01:40 PM
Any time, Sith. Looking good on the female mando. Can't wait to have her running around and slicing and dicing people up.

El Sitherino
01-10-2003, 05:34 PM
yeah ill work on her more this weekend. and try and figure out what ill do for the armor.

Lord Tnuc
01-10-2003, 08:28 PM
I posted this in the Zam Wessel thread, also, because I think NeoMarz would be quite able to do something like this.


Okay. I've been thinking about this idea for quite some time. I'm not sure if it's possible, but hear it out to the end. A rocket launcher/jetpack conversion. Basically...the same way you change the positions of the animations of the saber stances...could someone perhaps create a rocket launcher that you basically have nothing in your hands...but then once you hit the fire button, the animation causes you to crouch, with the rocket positioned on the back, so that it would be like it was coming out of the jetpack. I'm not talking about coding in a crouch, I'm talking about changing the "stance" from the "recoil"(?) so that instead of recoiling, it could just crouch, and it'd fire. Possible? I think so.



Just an idea to think about, Mista Sith

boinga1
01-10-2003, 09:34 PM
I think that to replace that animation you would replace all the other firings (e-11, DEMP, Golan Arms, etc.) with crouch, and that'd be a lot of weapons on a jetpack.

El Sitherino
01-11-2003, 12:01 AM
i think i might try and either edit the jetpack or make an entirely new jetpack. what you think also should there be a rocket on it or not. let me know. maybe both who knows just let me know what you would like.

Lord Tnuc
01-11-2003, 02:25 AM
My preference is something that would require the most work. I would like for it to be basically...ya got multiple variations of each. and likethe mando pack..each skin has a different combination.
model_Default: helmeted, jetpack(with rocket)
model_Default_2: no helmet, jetpack(without rocket)
I think the no-helmeted versions should not have the rocket on the jetpack, since of course...when the rocket fired..it would most likely fry the person's head and all without that handy dandy helmet of his.
By the way, in Bounty Hunter, Jango has a lot of dialogue. Perhaps someone could get sounds from there.

El Sitherino
01-11-2003, 02:40 AM
yeah i have bounty hunter im gonna try and get some sounds from there. and you got a nice idea on the setup. im also gonna have 2 versions of the no helmet. one with pony tail and one with short hair.

El Sitherino
01-11-2003, 01:18 PM
ok you can see some screenshots of the work i did on her here (http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/jofaf/lst?.dir=/MANDO+EDIT+PICS&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/) they are the last 2 mandohelmet and mandohelmetside.

Lord Tnuc
01-11-2003, 01:26 PM
Considering you have Bounty Hunter, and NeoMarz is doing Zam...perhaps you could also record some sounds of Zam for him using your Bounty Hunter game. Just a suggestion, of course. I for one, want a good Zam.

As for your work, it looks good. One thing I might suggest is to keep sort of an animeish figure to her. Keeping her sorta thin, but not like a twig, but tweak her hips and midsection a bit?

El Sitherino
01-11-2003, 01:35 PM
ok well ill work on her more later. im still tired.:o *yawn*

El Sitherino
01-11-2003, 05:15 PM
ok you can get the skinmaps for helmetless jango and the other mandos here (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JOFaF/files/mando%20model%20edit%20skinmaps/)

Lord Tnuc
01-11-2003, 07:59 PM
I wish I had some skinning skills. I would so jump at the chance to skin this and send it in.

El Sitherino
01-13-2003, 05:22 PM
Matt has dropped out as the skinner to work on his legolas model. i would greatly appreciate it if someone could skin this for me so it can get in game.

Pnut_Man
01-13-2003, 06:08 PM
I'll take up the task, but i'll only be able to work like one hour on weekdays and a few on the weekend.

Lord Tnuc
01-13-2003, 07:00 PM
See if you can get ahold of T3rr0r and Arco. I know they'revery good at skinning. And T3rr0r has done a reskin himself of a mando model that looked great. Good luck in finding skinners, Sith. I'm really having high hopes for these.

El Sitherino
01-13-2003, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Pnut_Master
I'll take up the task, but i'll only be able to work like one hour on weekdays and a few on the weekend. alright pnut. you can get the skinmaps at the link i gave above.

Matt-Liell
01-13-2003, 07:24 PM
Sorry guys for not being able to skin it. I'm pretty busy with school and other things and my Legolas model is keeping me busy. Again I'm sorry to all of you but I'm sure Pnut will do a good job!:)

El Sitherino
01-13-2003, 08:00 PM
its ok matt. we understand. besides we all want legolas

t3rr0r
01-13-2003, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by Lord Tnuc
See if you can get ahold of T3rr0r and Arco. I know they'revery good at skinning. And T3rr0r has done a reskin himself of a mando model that looked great. Good luck in finding skinners, Sith. I'm really having high hopes for these.
hoho... comparing me and arco... arco wins majorly. :O also, i'm taking a break from any jk2 editing/playing at the moment... probably resume sometime in the near future.

Pnut_Man
01-13-2003, 10:03 PM
Arco is un God de Skinning :p. I downloaded the skinmaps, i'll give it a look tomorrow :)

El Sitherino
01-13-2003, 10:39 PM
alright im looking forward to your work pnut. oh and cool name.

Pnut_Man
01-14-2003, 11:58 AM
( InsaneSith check your pms; checking out lucasforums from school is fun ;))

El Sitherino
01-14-2003, 05:34 PM
i checked i responded.

t3rr0r
01-14-2003, 07:41 PM
i just looked at the female mandalorian images and i think you're headed in the right direction... my only suggestion would be to take the lady fett image and make her (perportions) a little more realistic... and other aspects of the suit (ie. gauntlets, jetpack) take from the male counterpart.

boinga1
01-14-2003, 10:45 PM
hehe...females loaded w/weapons=danger! Not. Yes, please make the proportions more realistic than in the pics.

El Sitherino
01-14-2003, 10:47 PM
i will dont worry.

Lord Tnuc
01-14-2003, 11:31 PM
It's very cool that you've taken on the task of creating the female mandalorian, Sith. I have a question..will you be releasing a skinpack of Mandos like the first mandalorian pack, and a skinpack for the female mando like such, also? What I mean is...we had Jango, Boba, Khyron(sp?), etc...different mando looks and all.

El Sitherino
01-14-2003, 11:36 PM
yes. and like i said in the one thread int he editing request forum. im gonna make an asian female mando also. :D . and there will be different ones. hopefully. im not totally sure but there are three different models of the helmetless jango edit. i have jango , a bald mando, and a mando with a mohawk.:edit: oh im gonna take a brake on this since ive been workin nonstop everday on these since the beginning and i need some me time. also i have a date coming up so.:) :edit:

Lord Tnuc
01-15-2003, 01:21 AM
Haha, good luck, Sith. It's not like there's a time limit for it or anything, man, no worries about that. That's cool about the asian one. I think, because of that, you should model different hair styles into the model. Like pigtails, ponytail, shorter hair, longer hair, etc, etc, etc. So that, like the Mara Jade model, you can have different variations of each.


That's cool about the different mando heads, though. I'm going to enjoy playing as a bald mando.

El Sitherino
01-15-2003, 05:31 PM
yeah im doin different hair styles definitely. im gonna make a spiky haired one too based off my girlfriends hair.:D

Lord Tnuc
01-15-2003, 08:31 PM
Haha, that sounds cool, too. Perhaps, if you had AIM, I could show you a few suggestions for her hair/head?

AutoCept
01-15-2003, 09:42 PM
AAAHHHH!!
Hurry up!
*Reads Lord Tnuc's message about time limit.*
NO! There is a time limit, you don't get it done fast enough and we hurt you.....
lol j/k

Bearskin
01-16-2003, 10:15 AM
Awww cant you post a newer pick of that female manda? look good the little i've seen of it.

(the face reminds me of Jan) are you using her head?

Lord Tnuc
01-16-2003, 02:29 PM
That he is. He also extended the ponytail a bit and thinned her face, I think. ...yup, I was right.



ok im gonna post some pics soon for the editing i did on jans face and head. ( i went and lengthened her ponytail and i thinned her face.)

El Sitherino
01-16-2003, 05:22 PM
i have aim. tell me your SN or PM it to me and ill IM you ok.

Lord Tnuc
01-16-2003, 09:11 PM
This may seem odd, but my AIM screen name is Host_Gambit@mac.com..it's not what it seems..I'll explain if/when you IM me. I have a few things to suggest, nyaha.

Lord Tnuc
01-17-2003, 04:51 AM
Wahoo. New break on the "back of the lady fett" issue we talked about. I talked to my older brother(who's an excellent artist with a pencil), and I asked him to see what he could come up with in terms of designs for female mandalorian armor. He's going to pull off multiple angles, most likely, and speaking from seeing his drawings since way back in first grade, he's going to think up something nice. It'll probably take a couple weeks, but I'm sure that'll be alright. Meanwhile, out of curiosity..have you thought about if you were going to name your mandos/female mandos? Like in the original mandalorian pack, each one had a different name. Will you be naming your different variations?

El Sitherino
01-17-2003, 07:50 AM
well the asian will be lee yang and im thinkin of for the first female mando to be loran fask or something kinda star wars sounding

El Sitherino
01-18-2003, 06:36 PM
ok heres an update on some face editing i did on the model for the asian version. note the hair hasnt been worked on yet.
http://www.boomspeed.com/insanesith/femalemandoupdate.jpg

Bearskin
01-18-2003, 06:38 PM
Looks great man

El Sitherino
01-18-2003, 06:39 PM
thanks. i did this now cuz i started getting bored i was originally not gonna start back up until like late sunday and monday.

Matt-Liell
01-18-2003, 06:43 PM
I don't know if you want it like this but; the nose is huge!

El Sitherino
01-19-2003, 06:56 PM
yeah i know i dont want it like that. im gonna fix it.im gonna take the females slowly. plus im gonna try and get different sounds for each individual model. so this is gonna take a while. but it will be worth the wait.

El Sitherino
01-20-2003, 04:11 AM
ok heres an update.
http://www.boomspeed.com/insanesith/asianmando.jpg

Bearskin
01-20-2003, 08:38 AM
That would look ok with a skin on, no worries.

Bearskin
01-20-2003, 08:40 AM
That would look ok with a skin on, no worries.

Darth Vader III
01-20-2003, 10:03 AM
Double post.:tsk:


Anyways this model looks grrreaat

Dragonlancer
01-21-2003, 12:07 AM
It'll be great once it's been skinned. Btw, THE PRECIOUS WILL BE MINE!!!

El Sitherino
01-22-2003, 06:57 PM
yeah it will. and never the precious is mineses.

El Sitherino
01-25-2003, 05:40 PM
ok the female mando project is on hold until i get word from peretti about using the mara jade model.

Dark_One
01-31-2003, 07:23 AM
Hi, just dropped by to say I'm a huge mandalorian fan ... and can't wait untill you finished these great models.

Bearskin
04-22-2003, 04:20 PM
Any news about the female mando?

Lord Tnuc
04-23-2003, 10:36 PM
ok the female mando project is on hold until i get word from peretti about using the mara jade model.

I guess that means that until he gets ahold of whoever he needs to, it's on hold. Meaning, not going to be done. I'm not trying to come off like an ******* or anything, I'm just assuming that's what it means. With how projects are nowadays, don't really count on it being done any time soon, but you can still hope.