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ksk h2o
12-11-2002, 02:05 PM

The first post of this page is edited/updated regularly to keep info and images up to date.

The body mesh is a modified shadowtroopers body. Since the general layout of the body fit the Ninja character, Gray Fox pretty well, I imported Raven's mesh and changed/modified it to suit my needs. No need to do the job twice.

The head mesh is in multiple parts. The faceplates can be removed for an "open helmet" version.

[SM]Maximus and FoJ_JM_Miyamoto have offered help in skinning this puppy. Maximus has done a GREAT job with the skin. I also recently received three skins done by FoJ_JM_Miyamoto which was introduced to the project through NinjaGaiden.

I'm also including some skins which started off with the model, and which were in turn modified to become the Team Skins.

There are quite a few shaders. The mechanic eye has a glow and blink to it, the entire body has the chrome effect applied to it for a metalic shine, and the face inside the faceplates has two shaders of its own.

The model has custom sounds: Three different taunt sounds, and custom sounds for all pain levels, all mp deaths, and all other mp sounds... with of course the unforgettable line "HURT ME MORE!" set as the taunt for the default model.

Recently managed to take a look at the Cheshire vader Cap TGA's and their shader. Arco, Sithlord and Chesshire's amazing model's caps seemed a perfect fit for Gray Fox since he is also part human part machine like vader. Many thanks for allowing me to use the texture and shader code for the caps.

Many many thanks to [SM]Maximus for taking the time and effort to create the great skin the model has on right now. His name will definitely be in the creators list for the model.

Also to FoJ_JM_Miyamoto for contributing THREE skins! :D

SCREENSHOTS are Recent, and updated regularly:
[LAST UPDATE: 2/10/03]
Model Ingame - Default Skin (http://www.talocan.net/ksk_h2o/GFimage/0.jpg)
Model Ingame - Default Skin (http://www.talocan.net/ksk_h2o/GFimage/2.jpg)
Model Ingame - Default Skin (http://www.talocan.net/ksk_h2o/GFimage/3.jpg)
Model Ingame - Default Skin (http://www.talocan.net/ksk_h2o/GFimage/4.jpg)
Model Ingame - Default Skin (http://www.talocan.net/ksk_h2o/GFimage/5.jpg)

Model Ingame - Blue Team Skin (http://www.talocan.net/ksk_h2o/GFimage/blue.jpg)
Model Ingame - Red Team Skin (http://www.talocan.net/ksk_h2o/GFimage/red.jpg)

Model Ingame - Alternate Skin1 (http://www.talocan.net/ksk_h2o/GFimage/n1.jpg)
Model Ingame - Alternate Skin2 (http://www.talocan.net/ksk_h2o/GFimage/n2.jpg)
Model Ingame - Alternate Skin3 (http://www.talocan.net/ksk_h2o/GFimage/n3.jpg)

closeup of the default skin's face (http://www.talocan.net/ksk_h2o/GFimage/face.jpg)

Face Shader Info:
The face's eyes spark red randomly and the entire face has a circuit board pattern that faintly glows to a white noise pattern (details in the FACE DETAIL screenie).

There is a working bot that fights pretty well and will stick to the saber. He also likes to use mind trick a lot as a weak substitute for the Ninja's camouflage.

Nothing, it's all done in my book.... I need to get this out to beta testers and write out the readme crediting everyone that helped with the model... and we can have a release.

Hellfire Jedi
12-11-2002, 02:58 PM
Holy s*** thats DAMN good. You think i oculd beta test that it would be SUCH an honor!!!!!! Looks so damn realistic in-game looks like a real person. Nice saberist mod too ;). If you do decide to send me it i will be much abliged blazoor@aol.com thanks!!!


EDIT Once you got skin you can send it over ask Inbred hes a damn good skinner too. Also if you weighted the face plates you could use a .surf file to make the face plates sticking outward or gone.

12-11-2002, 03:12 PM
Wow, that is very realistic!
And I have an idea, when you release it, put a Ninja Sword in it or something, it would be very funny to see a Ninja slicing a$s!

12-11-2002, 03:44 PM
Thats a great model! very realistic! keep up the good work! you said u imported raven' s mesh which character of the game?

ksk h2o
12-11-2002, 04:24 PM
wow thanks for the feedback. :)

Hellfire, I'll send you the model tomorrow since I will be implementing a few things beforehand (see the other thread for the details ;) ) It would be good to get some feedback from people playing with it.

I have not weighed the hand bones yet (more precisely took off the finger weights after a few assemblies), only because of an annoying thing I get in 3ds max. I will put the finger weights back on as soon as the rest of tweaking is done.

Matt-Liel, it was Raven's Shadowtrooper model, had to go through milkshape's glm importer in order to get it into 3ds max for the tweaking ;)

Also for anyone who wishes to try out the model, you should know I havent tied together the LOD's yet. Only the highet LOD is in the current model, the lower LOD's still need to be wieghed. I want to finish debugging before I undertake the other LOD's though.

Hellfire Jedi
12-11-2002, 04:34 PM
Well i sure do hope that .surf works because the open mask would be cool!!!


Wes Marrakesh
12-11-2002, 08:31 PM
Oh man. New fav model alert! :D

Awesome job, man :thumbsup:. You know, for the face... oh wait. A skin might not work...

Would it be Olga? lol

ksk h2o
12-13-2002, 06:26 AM
I got a few updates to the model today. Got the shaders and other stuff working right.

On populer demand, I'll be moving onto making a face inside the mask and making the faceplate removable with a .surf :D

12-13-2002, 06:47 AM
so this is gonna be the REAL grey fox right? not olga? just dont forget to make him black ;)

Hellfire Jedi
12-13-2002, 06:53 AM
Its the fox it really is him. Olga wass uhhh yuck:rolleyes:


Hellfire Jedi
12-13-2002, 06:56 AM
ksk maybe enjoi could skin it ? hes good

ksk h2o
12-13-2002, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by Enjoi9187
so this is gonna be the REAL grey fox right? not olga? just dont forget to make him black ;)

Do you have any images of Grey Fox? The only ones I could find were of him in the suit, I cant seem to find his face anywhere.

I remember playing MGS for the NES a while back, but the manual did not have any photos of grey fox.

The only thing I could base myself on, was the toy action figure, I guess that isnt very accurate though. :)

12-14-2002, 10:25 AM
I've taken the old MGS Ninja skin and done a personal stealth camo version of it - You could apply the shader from the ct_sidious/morgankatarn models onto Grey Fox, and get a semi-ghost transparency effect for stealth effect.

Just a thought,
Jer, Master Swordsman Mathiu Silverberg of the Legion of Swordsmen

p.s. need a beta tester? I can also rip sounds from the MGSPC if need be.

12-14-2002, 11:01 AM
well, at the end of MGS for playstation, at the end when he gets crushed by metal gear rex. he takes off his helmet before he dies, and you can see that hes black.

Hellfire Jedi
12-14-2002, 11:33 AM
Hes got sounds already damn good ones.
Enjoi i wanted to beta mgs and get the stealth thingy for snake from otakon i beat the game about 15 times hes white ;)


12-14-2002, 11:43 AM
grey fox was black, and ninja is grey fox, listen to his voice also, and look at some profiles online. he even has a hint of jive as he talks

12-14-2002, 12:41 PM
grey fox was black, and ninja is grey fox, listen to his voice also, and look at some profiles online. he even has a hint of jive as he talks

Your an Idiot.
No offense but your missing the very obvious flaw in your
"Grey Fox is Black" thing.

When he takes his mask off in Metal Gear Solid;
hes nice and white.

The action figure from Todd McFarlane has a removable mask; Again his face is nice and white.

Now the Real kicker;

(Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't that be impossible in a genetically black family? I know there have been records of half black people being completely white but not from completely black parents.)

BTW Talks with "Jive"? I dont know about you but how exactly does a black person talk with "JIVE"? That wouldn't happen to be a STEREOTYPE would it?

Hellfire Jedi
12-14-2002, 01:09 PM
Ok first
1. Enjoi do not post anything offensive it iwll only start a flame war.
2. Drakken You know better than to flame someone like that. He can think what he thinks is true. If he thinks its a black guy so be it. Do not have a hernia because he thinks something is black. Just Don't. Thanks ;)


12-14-2002, 08:30 PM
Do not have a hernia because he thinks something is black. Just Don't.

Maybe I coulda been a little more tactful with him.
It did seem as though I lost it on him over nothing.

Anyways, as far as the model goes its lookin pretty sex man.
You might want to make his suit green like it was in the game with the little bits of that reddish brown on it.

Hellfire Jedi
12-14-2002, 08:35 PM
He needs a skinner.


12-14-2002, 08:42 PM
Look, yo. Is his name "Black Fox"? NO~! His name is GREY FOX for a reason!

ksk h2o
12-15-2002, 01:25 PM
That post was quite an outburst Drakken. I dont want to step on anyone's toes but I'd suggest using the edit button to change some of the wording that could be misinterpreted as racism.

I've finished the open mask and put a face inside there. It'll be using the imperial's face skin as there is no way I can make my own face for this guy. I'm thinking of listening to Enjoi and actually making one of the team skins' face black. I though it would be cool to have it like that and since there is just about no reference images for Greyfox besides the toy action figure its fair enough. When you think about it, it doesn't matter anyway. :)

Hellfire I need to send you the new version with the working shaders, the better roll sound and the option to use the open facemask. I'll be sending you that tomorrow.

squall, I though about the stealth thing and tried some of the ghost shaders but at the end they look a little wierd, especially where the skins overlap like on the closed facemask. Mind trick works as a very nice stealth camo :p

Thanks for the offer for the sounds, I actually used epsxe to get the sounds off the PSone version and the VR missions. I think I'm quite set sound wise... it would have been an offer I couldn't refuse had we met a week ago.

Norrec Vizharan
12-15-2002, 01:46 PM
i could get you a good face shot from metal gear 2: solid snake (for msx) or a face shot from mgs when he is about to be crushed!

12-15-2002, 02:35 PM
Ah, alright. Hmm, I plan on trying out the shader thing myself...after you turn off the face so that only the outer layer is displayed. As for the sounds, well, I've been messing with another Ninja skin, and I did end up ripping out just about every sound from the Lab battle that doesn't include "Snake" in it. lol. Cool, though

Shadow D.A.N
12-15-2002, 06:02 PM
did u take the of him screaming u know wen u meet him the first time (i think it was)

but can u add it if u havent just put it as taunt5.mp3 or something
(and why i want it well i want a litel "battelcry" thats all)

btw good work :thumbsup: (so far)

ksk h2o
12-16-2002, 03:45 AM
Originally posted by Norrec Vizharan
i could get you a good face shot from metal gear 2: solid snake (for msx) or a face shot from mgs when he is about to be crushed!

That would be really nice, I dont see myself playing the game AGAIN for screenies (from MGS1) but it would be nice to take a look at his face near the end of the game.

As for the screaming sound, the problem I have with it is that it has a lot of background sounds that cant really be cleaned up effectively. So i get a very crowded scream sound if I use the one I have. If you have a clean version for the scream I'd definitely take a shot at it and include it as another taunt (there are four allready).

:) I'll be posting screenies of the open facemask shortly.

Hellfire Jedi
12-20-2002, 06:48 AM
ksk hasnt sent me the faceless or maybe he did and it didnt show up :confused:
So once i do i get screenshots up QUICK!


ksk h2o
12-20-2002, 12:42 PM
I updated my first post in order to reflec the latest changes and replaced all the screenshots with images of the new mesh/skin

There are now two skins, regular and sith, and two model versions regular and open faceplate. So you have a combination of playing four characters.

In order to get the open faceplate regular model use:
model grayfox/open
In order to get the open faceplate sith model use:
model grayfox/sitho

The regular and sith models have icons so they can be selected through the in game menu.

I'm sending you the new version now hellfire :)

12-20-2002, 07:07 PM
I uploaded the sounds I ripped from the PC version here:

They may be higher quality than the PSX version...however, I hope they help you.

12-22-2002, 04:05 PM
Um, one other detail your missing, Grey Fox had a busted right eye......

ksk h2o
12-25-2002, 05:44 AM
Squall took a look at your sounds. I actually had all but a few of them already applied as taunts. I'll try to see if I can use some of the extra sounds you provided as well, many thanks for them.

It would really help if someone could send a screenie from the game where I could see his face. Bahamut, since I have nothing to go by the face was pure ksk fantassy. If I can get a screenshot of the face and see that his right eye was busted, and how it looked like, I would gladly incorporate it into the skin. Right now I dont even know if the guy supported a fu-man-chu beard. :D

Could you tell me how the busted eye looks like? Does he have a scar across his forehead and cheek that goes through the eye? Is it just a white eye? Any info on his face would be appreciated.

Recently I have weighed the hands, since the mest seems complete and no problems with the weighing have been reported. I'm moving onto making the LOD's and releasing this puppy. :)

12-25-2002, 10:47 AM
I'll continue playing through the PC version...^^

12-28-2002, 05:44 PM
Ninja is white, like you said, but Naomi isn't his real sister. She's just the adopted sister. At the end of MGS, when you meet up with Grey Fox again, he asks you to apologize to Naomi for lying to her. Grey Fox killed her parents, and then felt guilty about it and spared her life. But he is white. Just a little FYI.

This model is so freakin' cool.

: His "busted eye" is just white. I remember that specifically. Though it'd be cool if you included two versions of that. Your two red eyes, and then a red eye/white eye version.

12-28-2002, 06:40 PM
Ok listen up.
I have every Metal Gear, Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, Metal Gear: Snakes Revenge, Metal Gear Solid, and Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. I also have all the action figures, and the special edition Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake MSX box set straight from Japan. I have extreme knoledge of the Metal Gear universe...

Grey Fox is NOT African American.

He is as caucasian. But in the American version of Metal Gear Solid, his voice actor IS African American, wich is probably why you think that. In the origional Metal Gear's, his face is white. In Metal Gear Solid, his face is white. He is white, BUT his American voice actor is African American. So please don't make him black.

Oh and by the way, excelent job on the model.

12-29-2002, 09:55 AM
Yea.. the whole thing where that person thought he was black.
That was a long while ago. It doesn't really matter.

I'm thinkin we need to focus on another skin though.

One of Ninja in his green/grey suit like he actually wears in MGS.

01-05-2003, 09:30 PM

ksk h2o
01-06-2003, 04:24 AM
Hmm, I've been away vacationing under UV lights and dicso balls so haven't been modelling much... I am Working on the LODS now since the model is all done and no bugs to it that I can see.

Once the LODS are done, and as soonas I get my hands on a drawing pad, I'm going to take a swing at getting am MGS color schemed skin onto the model.

I thought about the suggestions for the bad right eye and also keeping the to red eyes.

What I think I'll do is, I'll keep the current white/black skins the way they are (tweak them a little of course) and make the MGS NINJA color schemed model with the bad right eye. This way there will be one skin scheme that will try and be as close to GF as possible and the other two will be more of a fantasy skin on the model.

Thanks for the interest guys, and plase keep the suggestions coming. :)

Shadow D.A.N
01-06-2003, 06:13 AM
A suggestion I have (its more an ide)

use the reborn model and give him a hood


01-06-2003, 06:10 PM
What?!? A hood? Why the hell should he have a hood? He's already got a self-powered, stealth-camoflague-equipped ninja exo-skeleton cyber suit. A hood? Have you even played any of the Metal Gear games?

Oh, and heads up ksk h2o. Konami already canned Darth Kitty's attept to make Metal Gear Solid models. You might want to post what you have on a website before they try and get in touch with you. I don't want this sick-ass model cancelled too. Maybe you could send it to Garik Loran and get him to host it on his site, just in case. (?)

01-06-2003, 07:54 PM
um ksk h2o, a friend of mine told me you was looking for a skinner for Grey fox so he asked if i wanted to do it for you
ill start on it first thing tomorow... is it good news?:)
ill give it my best shot, making him good i mean.... ill even put up some pics on a site tomorow so you can see my skinning work


Hellfire Jedi
01-06-2003, 08:44 PM
...i asked him :P

ksk h2o
01-07-2003, 04:07 AM
Azrael, I think Konami didn't want a Metal Gear Mod, like a total conversion, that would play like an MGS Game. There were many models of Metal Gear Characters Released for other FPS games such as Q2, Q3 (albeit not very good ones) and I don't think Konami would care much about a player character. I think they got worried about a mod affecting the "image" of their games (no matter how ridiculous it sounds), and it's a pity the mod won't see the light of day.

Thanks a lot for the offer SupremePain. I could definitely use all the help I can get. I've also sent Klorel some reference pics, since he offered to help. Let me know if you need reference images or whatnot. And thanks to Hellfire Jedi for getting you involved. :D

01-07-2003, 09:00 AM
yeah its cool man, i could need some ref pics:)

01-07-2003, 05:56 PM
um... i just found out that i REALY could use some ref pics, please send an email to big_ass@e-mail.dk giving me some links, pics or something ... :)

ksk h2o
01-08-2003, 04:13 AM
I've sent out an email with all the reference images I have.

Let me know if you need me to convert the map files into BMP so you have reference maps for the mesh.

01-10-2003, 10:57 AM

01-13-2003, 01:54 AM

01-13-2003, 08:26 AM

01-14-2003, 12:00 PM
Yo is this model finished, is it even been worked on? any updates whatsoever?

ksk h2o
01-15-2003, 04:41 AM
The Model and all the LOD's are finished.

Since Supreme Pain offered to help with skinning, I'm waiting for feedback and info from him.

Also Klorel Mentioned he would give skinning him a shot.

As soon as I hear from them, and learn if they have had the time to work on it and/or if they still have the interest and the time, I'll post an update. All we need for him is a decent skin.

Hellfire Jedi
01-17-2003, 05:58 PM
My bro did a reskin of this about 30minutes.
E-mail me if you wanna see it....

01-17-2003, 06:19 PM
glad to say, im back i was away from my comp for a couple of days so i havent realy been skinning gray fox but i was right about to go work on him (i dont realy have any homework this weekend so lots of spare time[YAY])
*runs of to skin*

01-17-2003, 06:48 PM
hi guys im hellfire's bro, just sayin that my bro gave me the model and i did a quick skin of it, not bad actually ill have him put a zip of it on his site if u want him too, ksk h2o.

Just tell me if u want it up on the site and im sure he will be happy to throw it on there ;)


01-17-2003, 06:51 PM
and ksk h2o, ill be more than happy to help you skin the model, i need the experiance

ksk h2o
01-18-2003, 09:54 AM
Cool, I'm really looking forward to seeing you guy's work. Just drop me a PM or an email with the link to the skin and I can check it out.

Thanks for the help guys. I think the model's going to look sweet once he has a cool skin on. :D

01-18-2003, 11:49 AM
alrighty ill have my bro add it to his site and ill pm u the url in a bit


01-18-2003, 12:10 PM
I think i have gray fox on my msn list how is hes email

01-18-2003, 12:14 PM
I am glad to see that there is some progress, and you have gotten a skinner.

But I am not very glad because people are posting "Bump" over and over again, if anyone else posts bump again, I shall tell a moderator/admin. :)

01-18-2003, 06:36 PM
ksk h2o
, i just saw a pic of what Maximus did..... it looks freaking awesome i dont think i could it skin it that well becuase i have never even tried the game .... his looks kicking :D

01-18-2003, 06:40 PM
ksk for some wird reason when i took the screeny i noticed that the shader did not work on gray fox, i think either i pk3ed it wrong or the shader needs to be reapplyed

i hope u can get it worken easyily


ksk h2o
01-19-2003, 09:11 AM
Cool, I took a quick look at the image and he looks sweet. :D I'm currently away from home and cant play with the new skin untill I get back towards the weekend. I'll be sure to check him out then.

It would be great to also see your work Supreme Pain, I'd like to include as many skins from different skinners as possible but if you think it would be redundant thats ok :D

Maximus' skin does look sweet, I looked in the PK3 and saw one thing though... if you look above the area where the arm is in one of the skins included with the model you'll see a small hexagon-shaped thing... that's where the elbowpad maps to. In Maximus' skin that area was blank like in the original shadowtrooper, so unless the model was re-mapped, the elbowpad must look blank (haven't been able to run it in game since I am away).

I'll try to add better feedback when I get back.


01-23-2003, 02:17 PM
please send it to me and let me look at it pls will u do that ?.
email kerocool@hotmail.com have msn then my name is Paine and icq is 211339088 only if u wanted to know:)

01-23-2003, 02:51 PM
Dunno if anyone has said this but there was already a Grey Fox skin released a couple days ago. Mabey you were going for a different looking Grey Fox than the one in MGS but the skinned released already looks exactly like him. Its at that Massassi Temple or whatever website.

OH! Also a Shadowtrooper witha workable cloak was just put up at another website. You hit a button to cloak him and hit it again to turn it off. That would work great with Grey Fox too since he does that kinda stuff.

Hellfire Jedi
01-23-2003, 02:55 PM
Angel that was a skin on massasi this is a MODEL. And sorry kero my bro I think only wants the maker h20 to have it because he made the model. I added a zip to the model also so all you can download but only me ksk and max can extract it. (thats how we like it to be) So if you can wait till release without be a nuisance I will make sure you get it first.

01-23-2003, 04:01 PM
Ya thats why i called it a SKIN. And it looks exaclty like Grey Fox from the game. And there is already another model in progress of Grey Fox that looks exactly like him too. Just saying there is one released that is worth noting.

By the way...why make him look diff than what he does ingame?...just wanted to?

Classic Luke
01-24-2003, 02:39 AM
I was wondering if once this model is completed, if anyone knows how to use shaders to simulate that "bending of light" effect for the camouflage that grey fox had in MGS2? Either way thought, the model does look tight! :)

01-24-2003, 04:09 PM
What site is that Shadowtrooper cloak on? That would be cool to see.

gt r?
01-24-2003, 05:34 PM
i found the cloaking shadowtrooper :) heres the link m8es

enjoy :D

i dunno how it works i just found it :)

01-24-2003, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by ~angel~
Dunno if anyone has said this but there was already a Grey Fox skin released a couple days ago. Mabey you were going for a different looking Grey Fox than the one in MGS but the skinned released already looks exactly like him. Its at that Massassi Temple or whatever website.

OH! Also a Shadowtrooper witha workable cloak was just put up at another website. You hit a button to cloak him and hit it again to turn it off. That would work great with Grey Fox too since he does that kinda stuff.

That skin you speak of is actually a re-skin the "Metal Gear Solid 2: SOL" Ninja. Not Grey fox (a very bad skin at that)
I'm making a "real" model of the Ninja from MGS2:SOL you can take a look at it here:

01-25-2003, 05:04 PM
Very bad?...if you are talking about the new skin I saw...the one form MGS 1...then it is dead on with exceptional ...everything. Only prob is the shadowtrooper model he used is a bit too ...thick?...looking. He needed to be skinnier. But all together it is a dead on resemblence.

ksk h2o
01-26-2003, 01:47 PM
Just got back from my trip, I'll get to work on the model with maximus' skin asap. need to iron out a few bugs in the lods.

I'll have an update very soon.

01-26-2003, 07:36 PM
Umm... is it soon yet?:)

ksk h2o
01-27-2003, 10:17 AM
I included Maximus' skin on the finished model with all the LODs.

Update added to the first post in thread which credits MAXIMUS for his great work and added screenshots to the model with his skin.

I want maximus to take a look at the final version before I can call the model semi-complete and would like him and Hellfire to beta test the last version, with the LODS to tell me if they find any serious problems with the LOD's. Otherwise, it seems we're ready to rock and roll.

Thanks Guys. :D

01-27-2003, 03:04 PM
Could I beta the model as well? I would greatly appreciate it. No, really, I would.


01-28-2003, 06:11 AM
kool cant wait to see the finished version :)

ksk h2o
01-28-2003, 06:23 AM
Maximus, send me yout email so I can get in contact with you. The skin looks awesome. I need to send you the latest version I have and I have a small favor to ask you. Lets get in touch.

Azrael, as soon as we iron out a few details about the current model, I'll send you a pre-release beta version also so you can test it. But please do not distribute that version. THe final version should be out after you guys test it out.

Speak to you soon Maximus. :D

01-28-2003, 12:06 PM
Distribute it? I wouldn't even think about it? Cross my heart and hope to die!:) I patiently await your model.:D

01-28-2003, 01:39 PM
this model is looking cool when are u going to release it?

01-28-2003, 01:51 PM
can u send me the model?

01-28-2003, 02:58 PM
right now i have to fix my aol email so u can email me the stuff u need at his email blazoor@aol.com

all i have is hotmail and i can only send and recieve about 1024KB
so by tommorow ill have my aol up, i also have msn and aim if u have any of those.


01-28-2003, 05:12 PM
got my aol working email is Caladien111@aol.com

ksk h2o
01-29-2003, 06:35 AM
Very cool, I sent you an email (I allready had sent one tot he forum email you have but I guess you get a lot of junk there and dont check it often... I know I dont with mine) :D

One important thing that I changed from the last model to this is the sounds. I noticed a lot of models had the chracter muttering something when he got hurt. Since I had made him just scream differently for different pain levels, I changed that to make him mutter some words on low pain and scream on higher levels of pain.

I'm thinking of changing the roll/jump sound since it's quite a sound... it's okay for a while but when you play with the model a lot it gets really annoying I think... let me know what you think.

Hellfire Jedi
01-29-2003, 07:10 AM
Would I get the beta too? Also, I know this is off topic but you guys should know....
I have been playing Jk2 for a long ass time. And I figured I would try out other games. Exactly I got hooked. I don't exactly want to come back to Jk2, But I think I might play it here and there, once fantastic models like this one are out. :D
Good Luck finishing him KsK.

01-29-2003, 04:10 PM
Me too, Hellfire. I got Battlefield 1942 and i am sooo hooked :D Wont you get the beta anyways? You and cala are brothers. If I remember correctly when you got a beta cala got it too(when it was sent to you)

01-29-2003, 04:27 PM
ok im gonna go check my email now....spyzer i am cala :D


Hellfire Jedi
01-29-2003, 04:28 PM
Me gots a load of games here are some:
BF1942 :)
Half Life (Gotta Love those modz)
And America's Army (downloaded roxxorz)
Well I have not received beta yet..... :)

01-29-2003, 06:55 PM
Great news ksk, i have gotten the new version, excelent.
I have also fixed the brown colors and made them more tan.I will be putting a screenshot on my new site...i am going t go make it now.
The model it self will not be on there of coarse but ill email u that asap...the url for my site will be, hope u like the pic, just a reminder the model will not be on the site, only an imgame picture.


Hope you like this ksk,


01-29-2003, 07:15 PM
Sorry about posting 2 times in a row but the url for my site i gave u...someone already is using it so here is the correct url..


its up and running, may be cheezy cause i made it in a hurry but its got a pic of grayfox updated with the brown to tannish color.


01-29-2003, 08:25 PM
so can we dl this? I don't really understand?

01-29-2003, 08:41 PM
im not authorized to give it out so no u can only see a pic that ive posted, ksk hasnt said that i can do anyhting with it in that nature so i wont put it up for d/l just a pic of the progress

gt r?
01-29-2003, 08:43 PM
:eek: Nice skin & model guys !!!

Excelent work ksk its awsome

Cant wait for its release!:D

ksk h2o
01-30-2003, 03:55 AM
I'm still fixing a few bugs with the model so the version is not final. It will be released very soon thoguh.

Hellfire just ask your bro to get the beta version from him.


01-30-2003, 12:00 PM
Would I get it from him too?

01-30-2003, 12:18 PM
<------ Is it okay if I use this pic as my avatar?

01-30-2003, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by Hellfire Jedi
Me gots a load of games here are some:
BF1942 :)
Half Life (Gotta Love those modz)
And America's Army (downloaded roxxorz)
Well I have not received beta yet..... :)

Seriously? I play America's Army too. I also have MOH Spearhead. What are your names in BF1942 and AA? Sry for off-topic :D
Nice model h2o! Can't wait for release.

PS: Waddap Caladien :D

01-30-2003, 06:29 PM
Stupid damned LF.... Sry for double post

Hellfire Jedi
01-30-2003, 07:22 PM
BF1942: Plain Old Mike :D You?
AA: Hitman29
You won't see me latly on SCI servers on that game because my honor went down for getting TK'ed =/

01-30-2003, 07:53 PM
I use 'SpYzEr' on both :D And i dont think that you can get low honor for GETTING tked. I wish there was a search option for the servers on either of those games. :(

01-31-2003, 02:57 PM
Azrael i dont mind about that just to make sure check with ksk if its ok....cause it is a pic of his model


BTW: ksk did u get my email? did u see my site? what do u think of the tanner color on grayfox?

02-01-2003, 06:05 PM
the body is sopposed to be blue and stuff i have a friend got it skinned for ya ksk ill send it shortly

ksk h2o
02-03-2003, 04:02 AM
NP, Azrael. You can get the model from Maximus for beta testing also. Please send comments or if you find bugs, please post them in the thread. I'm still working out a few kinks so the model that maximus has has been tweaked a little as of now.

Can't wait to see your friends skin N.Gaiden. As I said before I am hoping to release him with as many skins as possible.

Maximus' new skin is also very Sweet. :D

02-03-2003, 02:32 PM
Azrael post ur email for me and ill send u it... btw ksk glade you like the new skin i did...the tan needs to be a bit lighter but i can work on that if u want me too :D,

Keep in touch with the model.


02-03-2003, 03:52 PM
Alright! Here's my e-mail:


Wow, thanks, Maximus and ksk h20!

ksk h2o
02-07-2003, 09:28 AM
I'm going to have a pretty big update soon. Further tweaked the model geommetry, and did a skin of my own as well as ctf skins. The release is looking right around the corner... keep your eyes peeled... :D

02-07-2003, 03:36 PM
great cant wait to see it :D

02-07-2003, 11:53 PM
KsK I sent an Email with the Skins in it to your email

ksk h2o
02-10-2003, 05:20 AM
Awesome. I have changed the first post in order to put up the latest screenies.

The three skins that were done by Ninja Gaiden's friends were added to the model skin pack. I need to get this version out to the beta testers so they can take a loot at the current state and let me know what they think. All in all, the model is complete.

If you compare the latest version with the earlier versions you will see that he got quite muscular... hehe... it took a while to edit an allready lod'd model but I had to make him a little more muscular than he was. He looks sweet now, I think.

I'll get in touch with Maximus and other beta testers so I can get them the latest version of the model and get their feedback on the skins.


gt r?
02-10-2003, 12:09 PM
:eek: all the skins look awsome!cant wait to play with this superb model!:)

ksk h2o
02-13-2003, 05:48 AM
I haven't received any negative feedack on the last version.

Should I release it as it is? Or do you want to see something implemented? Will NinjaGaiden's friend be named? Does he want to ad something to the skins before they are released?

How many people have been able to play with version .75?


02-13-2003, 07:12 AM
I would say realease it, but that is my anticipation talking so don't really listen!

02-13-2003, 11:19 AM
Well, ksk h2o, I haven't found anything wrong with the model Maximus sent me, so I'd say release it. I didn't get the latest model from anyone, so I might not have a "complete" opinion.;) But the one I got is great!

If you want to send the lastest one to me, I'll give it a try.:)


02-13-2003, 04:03 PM
sorry ive been away for a few days...ksk the model is awsome the new version u sent me is really good. looks to me, that its about finished. I really like it.


02-14-2003, 01:22 AM
ksk check your private messages for author of alternate skins

02-15-2003, 08:38 AM
Can you send me the model -> dbzone@t-online.de

ksk h2o
02-16-2003, 05:30 AM
Cool guys. I'll probably be submitting the last version witht he updated readme that credits FoJ_JM_Miyamoto for his skins monday so we will have a release.