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Marek
12-18-2002, 01:09 PM
Evan Dickens calls Maniac Mansion the 14th best adventure game of all times. Oh, the CONTROVERSY!! Has Evan taken too much mushrooms, or do you agree?

You can read the article here:
http://www.adventuregamers.com/display.php?id=186&p=8

P.S. This is not spam. *force pursuasion*

bgbennyboy
12-18-2002, 01:27 PM
Maniac Mansion above MI2?
He's mad, mad I tell you!
<insert various 'mad smileys' here>

MrManager
12-18-2002, 01:33 PM
How he could put that game above MI2 is beyond me. Yes, it was revolutionary, but hell if it was a whole lot of fun. Not Top 20 fun, anyway.

Feral
12-18-2002, 01:33 PM
Despite the name, wasn't SCUMM first implemented in Zak McKracken?
And placing MI2 at #18? BASS is one hell of a game, and I agree with everything he said in his review of that game, but I'm pissed that MI2 isn't in the top 4.

telarium
12-18-2002, 04:46 PM
Zak came out after Maniac Mansion. And yes, there is no way Maniac Mansion is a better game than Monkey Island 2... erm, in my opinion. Yes.

Alien426
12-19-2002, 01:43 AM
http://www.adventuregamers.com/images/bio_evan.jpg
This is Evan Dickens (http://www.adventuregamers.com/about/staff.php?id=3)!

And MM is probably the worst LA adventure. I haven't even played it to the end, so my opinion may not be deeply rooted.

Wizball
12-19-2002, 08:26 AM
Seems I'm the only one liking MM :)

I might be biased because this game was my first Lucasfilm game I ever owned and played.
It was the only game for my c=64 that was not copied back then for a very long time...
I could choose one game that my parents bought me along with this new c=64 computer and I choosed Maniac Mansion (pretty amazing for being only 12 years old...).

I think the game is very good even today (Recently re-played it)
and every LEC fan should have played it.

I can't judge if it's better or worse than any other LEC game because for me they all kick ass :)

telarium
12-19-2002, 12:30 PM
No, I like Maniac Mansion as well. It was the first LucasArts game I ever played... hell, the first adventure game I ever played. I admire it in many ways, but I really believe that Monkey Island 2 is a far better game.

BooJaka
12-19-2002, 12:53 PM
SQ4 is number 13. Admittedly it should much higher but you can't have everything, eh?

The Adventurer
12-19-2002, 03:01 PM
I personaly agree with the list so far, It takes a lot of guts to not put most of Lucasart's Adventurers on a Top anything list.

I hope Zork Grand Inquistor places or maybe Blade Runner

elTee
12-19-2002, 04:50 PM
This should be interesting. I will await the top ten before passing verdict, unless something truly shocking (Grim Fandango at no. 12??!?!?, for example) occurs.

MrManager
12-19-2002, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by LucasTones
This should be interesting. I will await the top ten before passing verdict, unless something truly shocking (Grim Fandango at no. 12??!?!?, for example) occurs.

I believe it was something like that last time they ran a list like that.

elTee
12-19-2002, 05:42 PM
Seriously??! Oh no, thats just wrong. I mean, the reason this is LucasForums and not SierraForums, or InfocomForums is that LucasArts make the best adventure games! I know that there are other companies, revolution etc, that make great adventure games that equal those made by LucasArts, but Grim Fandango is the joint best adventure game ever made! 12?? If they put it out of the top 3 its a travesty.

MrManager
12-19-2002, 06:02 PM
Who knows though, the chart is looking kinda different this year; last time they (or he rather) didn't include Monkey 2 at all. My personal opinion is that both MI2 and Grim should be in the top 3.

elTee
12-19-2002, 06:08 PM
I agree. If they count LBA2 as an adventure, the top 5 should include (in my opinion):
Grim Fandango,
Monkey Island 2,
Little Big Adventure 2,
The Longest Journey
in any order.

The Adventurer
12-20-2002, 04:02 AM
Guys, you do realize Adventurer Gamers site is deticated to ALL adventure game companys right? This is a Lucasarts deticated Site so we're all biased to Lucas Adventurers. And with good reason Lucas Adventures are some of the greatest games ever made, But remember there are only 14 Lucas Art Adventure games and not all of them are top 20 material. I personal Like it when other Adventure game company's get the spot light in Lists like this, I've never even played Beneth a Steel Sky until they mentioned it and now I've picked up a copy and am happaly playing away at one of the best adventure games I've ever played(get your copy too for free(its legal!) from The Underdogs (http://www.the-underdogs.org) ) I for one think his list has been spot on,(except for maybe MI2 its atleast a 5 in my book)

QueZTone
12-20-2002, 05:06 AM
currently how i see it my top10 (who cares about what i think, but still, oh and i even might be forgetting games heh, oh and i didnt want to put in more games of a series (mi1,mi3, gk2, brokensword1, pq2, tex3,5)

10. Police Quest 1
9. Broken Sword 2
8. Tex Murphy and the Pandora Directive
7. Indy & Fate of Atlantis
6. Gabriel Knight 3
5. Full Throttle
4. Day of the Tentacle
3. Operation Stealth
2. Grim Fandango
1. Monkey Island 2


*this list may change once people remind me of greater adventures ;p

BooJaka
12-20-2002, 10:56 AM
Judging by some of the things that have been said (ie: not being able to decide which SQ game to put in) it sounds like there isn't going to be more than one game from a series in the list. If MM is in there, does it mean that DOTT won't make it?

The Adventurer
12-20-2002, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by BooJaka15m
Judging by some of the things that have been said (ie: not being able to decide which SQ game to put in) it sounds like there isn't going to be more than one game from a series in the list. If MM is in there, does it mean that DOTT won't make it?

My feeling is DoTT is fundimentily Different then MM to the point they could be seperate choises, but I don't think we'll see another MI game on the list as most monkey island games build upon each other.

My top 10 as long as we're on the subject

10)Myst 3: Exile
9)The Neverhood
8)Zork Nemesis
7)Full Throttle
6)Return to Zork
5)Blade Runner
4)Zork Grand Inquistior
3)MI2
2)Curse of Monkey Island
1)Grim Fandango

elTee
12-20-2002, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by The Adventurer
Guys, you do realize Adventurer Gamers site is deticated to ALL adventure game companys right?

I have played almost every traditional point and click there is, I have all the sierra games, all the revolution adventures, simon the sorcerer 1, 2 and 3, Discworld 1, 2 and Noir, even the obscurities like shadow of the comet and I have no mouth and I must scream. I don't like Zork style first person games (not including Normality) and so I haven't played too many of those. The only LEC games I WOULDN'T put in my top 20 are Maniac Mansion and Zak McKracken.

Zak McKracken
12-20-2002, 09:01 PM
What's Wrong with Zak McKracken?

The Adventurer
12-20-2002, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by Zak McKracken
What's Wrong with Zak McKracken?

Nothing wrong with Zak McKracken as a consept/Story but the game itself leaves a lot to be disired in the gameplay department, Lucasarts needs to make a new Zak game.

Zak McKracken
12-21-2002, 01:21 AM
YES thank you. A new Zak game must be made oh i would love that.

elTee
12-21-2002, 06:01 PM
There's nothing wrong with Zak McKracken, its just there are better games that I can think of. I agree with the fact that LucasArts don't make ALL the best games, its just that they are all good. I mean, Little Big Adventure 2 is in my top 3 games ever, but I wouldn't put LBA1 in my top 20 at all. Sierra have made a few good games that I like, but they have also made some dire ones.

The Adventurer
12-22-2002, 03:12 AM
The main weakness of sieria games in the eyes of Lucasarts Adventurers is the fact that in many of the "Classic" Sieria adventurers you could die, ALL THE FREAKING TIME! SOmething that us "Never get stuck" gamers have never grown acustom too.

Similar in reverse, Sieria die-hards got used to the twitch puzzles and when they came over to Lucasland they discoved that the games where to easy to work your way through and didn't have the length(due to not having to reload every 5 secs)

Personaly? You can't have one without the other. To loss one would be chaos.

Jake
12-22-2002, 03:27 AM
You can die in FOA :P

BooJaka
12-22-2002, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by Jake
You can die in FOA :P

True, but not nearly as much as in Sierra games. In fact, I played it again recently and only got killed at the very end when I couldn't remember what to do. Of course, that probably depends on what path you take but still, the point was a good one.

Gabez
12-22-2002, 08:15 AM
The Last Express is at number 12, which isnít too bad seeing as itís a hard game for everyone to like. I like the way this feature gets everyone talking. A bit like that greatest Britons thing, but better.

The Adventurer
12-22-2002, 12:40 PM
YOu can also die in Maniac Mansion(blow the hamster up or punch in the wrong code in the big door), get stuck in Zak McKracken(run out of money or miss the color code on the King's space ship), Die in MI(drown with the Idol of many hands after 10 mins), and die in Last Crusade(get beat up, or crack the wrong tile in the church 3 times)

But the point is those are few and far betweem, and are also puzzles. In space Quest or Kings quest you walk onto the wrong screen at the wrong time *bang* your dead.

Does that make the Seiria games any worse then Lucasart adventures? Probly not. Different strokes for different folks and all that.