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Doodle Dude of Doom
12-23-2002, 04:22 PM
First of all Feral, I think you are talking completly bull****. And then you are afraid to take comments. I mean you don't close a topic for that... The thing I mean with bull**** is that you say it's wrong to write lol, good joke... and so on. It may or may not be (I dont know) wrong to write it on a forum that specalize on one genre like Monkey Island games. If Acrylic, or someone else have done this it's your job to move it to another forum. Becasue you are a moderator. Even if you aren't moderating that forum, it's you job to report to the admins, or the mod on THAT forum. But then here in the Harbor or whatever its called it stand like this:

"Set down the anchor, pull up a bar stool, relax and discuss just about anything with fellow MI gamers."

This means, I my, and 99% of the others that you can discuss anything... Then why should lol, or good joke be classified as spam? Ok if someone would write "SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, MOTHER ****" or something. Then I guess it's necessary to block/close member/topic.

And then the thing you are pointing EVERYTHING at Acrylic. That's not fair. It's just not fair play. Okay if you would have wrtoe "members that have spammed have a very small chanse to be a mod" but you write like "You, Acrylic, have not a big chanse"... This is just bull****. Not fair.

Now it is like this: I am quite sure you will block this thread cause you are afraid of ritisizm (sorry for the spelling). Yeah I know I am to on the forums I am moderationg. But what the heck? I don't close topic for that.

If you block me, okay... Then I know you are a bad moderator. But I put my membership on that. If that's needed to telling you how a moderator should be like, then it's worth it.

Isak - Moderator on brokensword3.net (http://forums.brokensword3.net)

Feral
12-23-2002, 04:49 PM
Off topic or not, there's no need to post 3-word responses to anything. Is says "discuss just about anything with other members", not "in this forum, you get to post whatever you like even if it's unnecessary. Hooray!"
And it's not bull****. I closed his other topic because there was no need for him top post the poll, not because I was afraid of criticism. Why would I be? It's the Internet, for Pete's sake, it's not as if it's going to hurt my feelings or anything.
You say I was pointing everything at AG, but I was not. In fact, he asked me to give examples, so I did.
AG made a homophobic comment in what was supposed to be a humourous topic on the Mojo forums, something that Met has been both lambasted and baned for in the past. I notice that you failed to mention that in your little rampage.
And I said specifically that AG has no chance of becoming a mod, not only because because I know it to be true, but because he had actaully read a topic in the Help & Feedback Centre about becoming a mod, where the admins re-iterate time and again, "don't ask us, we'll ask you". I know for a fact that he read that topic because he spammed in it.
Met & Zero appointed me as mod because they knew I could do a good job of keeping the peace, reporting troublesome/stupid threads, etc. I sensed there was going to be some issues with that topic that could be settled one-on-one in AIM, so I closed it.
If AG has a problem with me, or anyone else on the board, he should send them a PM or use a messaging problem such as AIM. I know he's got my AIM s/n, so there was no need to make a private matter public by putting on the forum, much the same way you have with this very topic.
Finally, I abhor that you are basically calling me a coward when you barely even know me or my reasons behind closing the topics that I did. It wouldn't have mattered who'd posted it; Natty, Niko, even freakin' ZeroXcape, with AG essentially provoking an argument (an argument he knew he would lose, no less), closure was to be expected.

Joshi
12-23-2002, 05:12 PM
feral, there is such a thing as abusing mod powers and taking them for granted. they can be taken away from you just as awell as have been given to you.

first of all, acrylic guitar was asking a question aimed at the general public (or more importantly the users of this forum) and therefore is not spam. you had every right to reply with what you did as i agree that to an extent, acrylic guitar does spam, maybe mroe than the rest of us, but only a little more as we all do it. but fact of the matter was. we all had a right to reply to that topic adn post our comments about the matter. that topic was a question, and i think people will agree that it wasn't spam.

secondly, Niko's thread. there was absolutely no need to close that. you said that this decision had little to nothing to do with any of us. it had everything to do with us, we are the ones who are effected by good or crappy moderators and we have a right yo nkow who should be mod and who shouldn't. also, this was a question posted by Niko, again, not spam, he was asking the general forum members if they wanted to be mod, how could it be spam when he was asking us directly? and he is right in asking us and saying that someone needs to replace him because it is true that he's not around as much as we'd like him to be and therefore can't mod as well as he should, and quite frankly, we need more than one moderator for this forum, the forum population has gone down considerably in the opast few months, but we still need more than one mod moderating these forums and niko saw thias which is why he posted that.

Feral
12-23-2002, 05:35 PM
I don't feel I've abused my powers. Elaborate, please.
I was going to leave Acrylic's poll open until it became obvious that he was jsut going to use the topic to hold a discussion with me. If he wanted to ask me and me alone where he had spammed, he should have done so through PM or AIM.
And all due respect, but the choice of moderator is not up to us. It's up to the administrators of the board, and I know for a fact that Met knows who he would like to install as moderators. Thus, it is a moot thread, so I closed it. If you're that arsed, though, I'll re-open it.

Acrylic
12-23-2002, 06:20 PM
First to Neil and D.D.o.D.(Isak)....thanks alot guys.

Ok, its true, sometimes I do spam, I wont lie. Heck, I mean, everybody spams...sometimes. And, maybe I do it a little too often, but I've only been here since June and I am still learning.

And Feral, I must say, that you ARE abusing your powers, by replying that I'm spamming and closing down threads that were unnesecary (SP?) to close. Like the NiKo one, or mine even, because I wasnt asking YOU if I'm a spammer, I'm asking the whole friggen public. Hell, you already think I'm a spammer so why would I ask you?

And one more thing, about the homophobe thing..... I mean, maybe I'm a little stereo typical, but I dont mean to be. Its how my dad tought me to be. I know I should be less of a homophobe and should learn how gay people are. Its just that something in my mind makes me think that all gay guys would hit on me. I just had a bad experience at school from one gay kid, I just dont want to get into it......but, trust me, I will be more thoughtful and respectful to gay comments and all.

Well, I hope that this was not spam to you Feral and I hope I made your day ALOT happier :).

Have and nice day,
AcrylicGuitar

Feral
12-23-2002, 06:49 PM
Sorry, but I'm not abusing my power. As I said in both of my above posts, we don't get to choose who the mods are, only the admins do, and they already know who'd they choose as mods for this forum, so it's a moot topic, but I'll re-open it anyway. And second, the poll, as I said in that topic, was pointless. Was it really worth making a poll to ask if you spam? Why not just ask for people's opinions, get some discussion going?
Alright, here's another reason for closing moot topics:
I'm just trying to initiate some decent conversation around here. We don't need crappy polls about whether people spam or not; we need active discussion, otherwise the place is just going to die. Can't you see? By dumbing down the place with stupid spam and ridiculous polls, we are unwittingly killing the forum. You may say to me "What about games like K-Jo round? They're spam". But the thing is, they make people stay here. This forum will go down the pan unless we try to save it from the cold grasp of stupidity. That's why I like members such as Drunken_Sailor, Neil Joshi and Kj°len; they always have something worth saying. They don't just mindlessly post. And I know we're all capable of decent discussion, because of topics like "Alien Existence", "Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers", and "Human Nature".
If you disagree that we need to keep the forum alive, then we might as well all leave and let it die.

murta
12-23-2002, 07:03 PM
God, everyone quit whining. Feral's just being honest and telling his opinion. He's been here alot longer tha you guys and he knows how to mod. To be honest (and you've admitted it to) yes, you do spam. I don't really find it necessary to close AGs topic Feral, unless it's completely useless/abusive or whatever. I can't say who I think would be a good moderator because in the past Zero has gone and surprised me and made certain people moderators, when I don't think they deserved it or would do a good job. Of course, soem of these people went a proved me wrong...

Kj°len
12-23-2002, 07:17 PM
Ok, I say that the poll, could be viewed from two different angles, first of all, it could not be spam because he really wanted to know, second, it could be because we're not going to "boo-hoo it's gone!" just becuase it was closed.

If a thread that everyone enjoyed was closed, many people would complain, otherwise, few people even care. We're not going to peel over and die because any topic was closed. As for the homophobe thing. Really, if you were raised that way, it still doesn't matter, it still could offend someone. The Feedback forum, well I'll have to check that, most of the times if you want to prove spam, links are vital. *Runs to check* OK, I see now. Yes AC said something pretty much leading off topic, agreed, but there were others. Overall, AC could learn, but not make a big deal about it, things can change. And seriously, who cares about becoming a moderator? I bet 99.9% of the people that ask to become a mod just do to become powerful, not to help people.

Spamming in my opinion is:


Posts with 3 words that mean not a lot
Saying random things.
Double posting not long after your last post with no new things to contribute.
Flaming

Brighteyes
12-23-2002, 07:21 PM
Just wanted to put a post in that was less than 10 paragraphs long ;)

Kj°len
12-23-2002, 07:28 PM
See kids? That was another example of spam.
Pff, nice one Brighty. ;)

But not a good place to put that seriously.

Feral
12-23-2002, 07:32 PM
Hehe...good joke.
But now I need to elaborate so I don't seem hypocritical...
Hmm...
So...
Don't you hate these awkward silences?

Anyway, I'm with K-j° here. I'm nto going to re-open the poll, but I accept that I may have been wrong on that count. However, I stand by everything that I have said, including ym reasons for closing it.

Kj°len
12-23-2002, 07:58 PM
Ok, Why don't we just stop poting in this thread, (Leaving it open, so your free to post and not blame others for poor moderating), and leave it all be, like this never happened.

Now I can't change your thoughts, you may think AG is a spammer, you may thing Feral is a bad moderator, but let us keep it in our heads, deal? Deal.

Natty
12-23-2002, 09:13 PM
spam :)

I thought the whole point of NiKo's thread was to open up for suggestions as his replacement as a mod, I'm sure the admins already have thier own thoughts and ideas on who would make a good replacement. IMO though do we really need it? Nothing seriously ever happens here much anymore, not like 2years ago when I first joined and EMI was still a new and huuuuuuge game and there were so many people posting you needed a lot of mods (I'm sure if and when MI5 is announced lots of people will hopefully start posting here again) Even I admit I've thought about giving up my mod powers, sure I still post lots but nothing really ever happens here so I just feel kinda usless in that aspect :( like a bludger or something

Everyone spams sometimes maybe without meaning to. I think you can usually tell when someone deliberatly spams (say Fellas for example) and someone who might spam but doesn't mean to (Arcrylic Guitar) Even I know I spam uslessly sometimes (lets look at my "I hate my hair" topic, that was really unneeded on my behalf)

Joshi
12-24-2002, 09:43 AM
feral has explained himself fully for AGs poll, yes, it could have eben dealt with with PM's. but i'm still not too sure about Niko's poll. it is tru that admins are the ones who choose mods, that stands to reason, but if i remember correctly, when i joined here, it was just about the same time Frenchy left and so we needed a new mod. we had a mod vote that time and i can't remember the outcome but i think it worked. Now, Grannen left and so feral became mod without the public (us) knowing, so im' not too sure how this works, can someone please fill me in. but as it stands, i don't think anymroe that feral is abusing his mod powers (quite the contrary, he is using it for what he thinks is moderatiog and in all fairness we haven't had that in a while now).

what i'm thinking now is that as a current mod, Niko can suggest mod replacements as ZeroXcape doesn't come by here often but Niko would know if someone was a good choice forr mod.

that's my opinion anyway.

obi
12-24-2002, 02:07 PM
*leaps in*


From now on, when you have critisizm, do it constructively. Don't just sit and say the word "Bull****" over and over again.


Thanks. :)


*jumps out*

Al-back from the BigWhoop
12-24-2002, 06:59 PM
havent been around latelly, and i havent read the whole topic, i got bored after natty's (not because of you, natty, of course ;)) but i have some stuff to say:


- closing topics is very annoying, and most mods tend to find this ability quite amazing. again i wanna ask all to PLEASE, CLOSE THE TOPICS ONLY WHEN ITS ABSOLUTELLY NECESSARY :)

- i dont think ANY1 chooses a mod by its moding abilities, its rather a popularity contest (off course, there r exceptions)
i had some exemples, but id rather not say any names, specially now that yall r hot headed.

- ESCAPEMI.COM doesnt need intelligent topics to keep going. it just needs convos. any kind. thats y i feel ppl should b encouraged to post ANYTHING they find interesting.


now i ll b gonne again for a week mayb (sorry if i ddnt post an "im leaving topic" the trip came so sudden, that i ddnt have time.

my time in this cybercafe is almost over, so i have to go (damn, 30 min in one topic! lol :))

cya later pepps!

Feral
12-24-2002, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Al-back from the BigWhoop
- closing topics is very annoying, and most mods tend to find this ability quite amazing. again i wanna ask all to PLEASE, CLOSE THE TOPICS ONLY WHEN ITS ABSOLUTELLY NECESSARY :)

- i dont think ANY1 chooses a mod by its moding abilities, its rather a popularity contest (off course, there r exceptions)
i had some exemples, but id rather not say any names, specially now that yall r hot headed.

This just serves as further proof that Al indeed has an IDXT error.
Mods really do only close topics when they see fit. We don't just throw around the "close thread" option like a toy.
And excuse me, but all of the mods on the whole of Lucasforums are chosen for their modding abilities; or, at least, those selected after LF was formed were

Natty
12-24-2002, 07:34 PM
I thought the origional mods of each forum were kept after lucasforums was formed? It was just the supermods like Murta or Metallus that were chosen (my understanding coz they posted at a number of forums)

Then again silly little Australians don't really understand how the people in the northern hemisphere think, so I'm probably better off ignoring everything. I'll just go with whatever happens

Also I think if I remember correctly, when the mods were first assigned wasn't there a lot of outcry coz Fender was chosen as a mod over Feral? (apologies if I'm mistaken and gotten the names mixed up) Many people said that it was unfair since Feral had been here so much longer than basically everyone else. Even I was surprised I was chosen as a mod and had seriously considered giving up my mod position and offering to Feral (I know I had mentioned my considering to do that to someone- think it might have been NiKo but I can't remember) I'm just assuming that since Grannen left, the mods/admins decided now was the time to make Feral a mod (even though I still think he should have been made mod a long long long time ago)

Anyways ignore me I have no idea whats going on

Feral
12-24-2002, 08:20 PM
When I said "people made mods after LF were formed", I meant on LucasForums as a whole, not just EscapeMI.

Faith
12-28-2002, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by The Feral Chicken
When I said "people made mods after LF were formed", I meant on LucasForums as a whole, not just EscapeMI.

i fink theyre making a point of that if you wernt "popular" in the forum, you wouldnt be a mod?

But on that hand, if you didnt post and stuff... how would peeps know if u wud make a good moderator nehow?

But.. thats wot i fink they're getting @!

Feral
12-28-2002, 04:53 PM
To quote Max:
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What the hell? No, that's not the point at all. They aren't "getting at" anything. There's nothing to "get at". Popularity really doesn't have that much to do with it.

Guybrush122
12-28-2002, 06:42 PM
*brushes off clothes* im back from a painful computer repair...so please, allow me to retort.

AHEM

Doddle Dude Wap, or Dumb Diddly Dod Dude or whatever the heck your name is, relax. Obviously feral has more power than you in this forum, so, instead of being a total penis aobut it, just mind yourself and try to post more than one or two words. For instance, if you want to say 'good joke' ...make it longer. perhaps a sentence or two.

As for Feral, dude, CHILL OUT. You very well know that all the regulars post one or two or three word comments sometimes. I know youre a mod and i know that makes you feel obligated to do something mod-ish but you need to ease up. It is, as Kjo put it, abuse of your powers.

Guybrush122
12-28-2002, 06:51 PM
Oh come on, Feral! You're just a tad out of line. I mean, whats the problem with Acrylics behavior? He hasn't offended anyone. Or annoyed anyone. So what if he posts alot? I think thats great of him - it keeps this forum alive!! Not only that, but you say many of his topics/posts arent needed --- but if you think about it from a philosophical point, you should realize that none of our posts or topics are "needed". Jeez, man, lighten up. May everyone speak freely!!!

Feral
12-28-2002, 06:52 PM
I'm not too arsed about 2 or 3 words replies if that is all that's required. I do get irritated if somethong requires elaboration and they just put "Yes it is" or whatever.

Feral
12-28-2002, 07:01 PM
Acrylic is a moronic spammer, perhaps not so much on this forum, but on the other Lucasforum communities. He has demonstrated homophobia, stupidity, insolence, and yet more stupidity in the last couple of months alone. And this really could havve gone in either the already-created topic or as a PM, or even on AIM. Closing thread. If anyone has a problem with that, you know where to reach me.
Oh, and sorry about the double posts and the problems with post count on the Harbor overview...the server dipped jsut as I was merging the 2 threads :rolleyes:

Doodle Dude of Doom
12-29-2002, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by The Feral Chicken
Acrylic is a moronic spammer, perhaps not so much on this forum, but on the other Lucasforum communities. He has demonstrated homophobia, stupidity, insolence, and yet more stupidity in the last couple of months alone. And this really could havve gone in either the already-created topic or as a PM, or even on AIM. Closing thread. If anyone has a problem with that, you know where to reach me.
Oh, and sorry about the double posts and the problems with post count on the Harbor overview...the server dipped jsut as I was merging the 2 threads :rolleyes:

Ok, then we do like this: You give me all (yes all) url to those topic thats not deleted and I will check them up. If I not get them in a week I will still blame you for closing those topics.

Feral
12-29-2002, 03:45 AM
Which topics do you mean? The ones that Acrylic made? I'll edit this post and add them afterwards.
If you're referring to your thread, it's merged with this one; I got it wrong, though, and merged your thread into GB122's instead of the other way round, then the server dipped as I was merging. GB122 can back me up on this.
Besides which, this is ridiculous. I had good reason to close those threads and no matter if I provide links or not, the reasons are just as valid. But, I'll do it anyway.
I don't see what your problem is, Isak...head stuck up your arse, is it?

Faith
12-29-2002, 03:46 AM
ok ok, i think its time to agree to disagree here! I know youre getting annoyed feral, like sum1 sed chill... and acrylic guitar... chill... every1s right in sum ways n wrong in others, so shudnt we just leave it @ dat?

Feral
12-29-2002, 03:58 AM
OK, got them. I jsut did a search for the word "avatar" by user "AcrylicGuitar", to look for one specific post, but a whole load of them came up. And almost every single link I clicked had AG spamming in it. I took down a few, then decided to test; if I searched for posts by AcrylicGuitar, and clicked on them randomly, how many could I get?
I stopped when I got to ten, but I reckon there are around 200 spams in AG's name. I kid you not.
Anyway, here's the links.
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86823
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84197
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87510
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81285
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77401
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78583
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84736
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86952
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87480
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85754

Al-back from the BigWhoop
12-29-2002, 04:42 PM
gee, feral, wot a warm welcome-back! u must have missed me :D

Originally posted by The Feral Chicken
This just serves as further proof that Al indeed has an IDXT error.
wots that? no really, i dont know.


i can assure u all that no1 here has the same exact concepts about closing topics, choosing mods and spamming. its very relative, thats y ppl need to b very carefull.


for instance, the topic about religion (the original one, b4 it spread all over the forum) should have been left intact. it was a discussion after all, if ppl ddnt want to have that discussion, ppl wouldnt reply. nevertheless, it was closed.

another example, andrei's banning. as gb122 said, u were banning him because of his flamming and banning, and most of you had done worse.

and about choosing mods: none of us is impartial about either banning or giving mod abilities to any1. thats y democracy wouldnt work, but thats also how nothing works. lets just face it, its kinda pathetic to give it a bigger importance than it really has.


i couldnt access the topics u posted due to some troubles with LF's database. but u would be surprised if u searched for the word "back" by me, or "wall" by niko, or how many lines gb122 left blank in each of his posts. and that just doesnt annoy me. if that annoys u, u gotta work on your chill abilities. if u'r just annoyed by AC way of comunicating, then u should remember that life is much more fun when we accept ppl how they r.


and u know wot? if ESCAPEMI.COM forums are slower and slower everyday, its because some of you keep filling it with rules. yall must chill. ppl go around looking for posts that they could classify as spam, or flaming, and thats not how its supposed to work. try to b as flexible as possible, otherwise it will just get bored and ppl will leave.

i could speak more, but gb122 has said it all




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And the whole world has to
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Just to tell you once again,
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Al-back from the BigWhoop
12-29-2002, 04:50 PM
on another hand, u may aswell dont read my last post. i ll leave it there (intentionally - no deleting plz), cause its really a shame to waste all that time. if any1 wants to read it, be my guest.



i ll just post a message (specially to feral, since its his trial, but it should apply to every1). just let them be.

Deadmeat_X
12-29-2002, 11:15 PM
Right, late as always and too lazt to read those long post, Deadmeat sais:

-To feral: let it flow man! No seriously, the best way of running a forum is not running it, or sometihng like that anyway. It's not like the place is gonna fall apart if you don't close senseless topics. In fact,s enseless topics may be the only fun on this forum. Please let 'em open. Sure, ppl spam, but what the heck. Do you really care that someone is spamming? I know we used to have 'spamming frenzies', and those topics rocked, imo.
-To feral part2: You're sometimes...well, I would call it abusing...overusing your powers. For example (I don't know if you did it, if you didn't sorry) when the topic about the grandma (or an other familymember, my memory is ****) that died was made sticky...there was no point for that, no matter how nice it looked.
-To feral part3: It's true that AG sometimes spams, and even is annoying sometimes, but it's not like he's a 'bad guy' or something. If you're annoyed by his behaviour, just tell him on pm, don't go destroying him in public
-To everone: What's with all the double posts?
-To everyone part2: Why does it say that GB122 is the threadstarter for this topic

Feral
12-30-2002, 06:50 AM
I didn't make the topic about DS's grandmother a sticky. In fact, I was going to de-stick it, but I hate it when people go against my mod decisions, so I didn't.
I didn't "publicly attack" AG, as you and Isak claim. I said that he wouldn't make a good moderator. In fact, ths is all Isak's fault. If he had left it at that, or just kept it private (as he should have done), I wouldn't have had to elaborate on why. Isak was the one that asked me to post the links.
And why, precisely, am I "on trail"? For speaking the truth, a truth that you refuse to accept?
The double posts by me & GB122 were because GB122 started a similar thread and I merged them. Unfortunately, the server went down for just a couple or minutes in the middle of the merging process, leading to GB122 being shown as the thread starter.

Frankly, this whole subject as absurd. It's been blown totally out of proportion by members too blind to see plain fact or to accept when they're wrong, such as Isak. And, ultimately, I was just trying to do a good job, and now I'm getting flamed for it. Well, excuse me for being good at the task assigned to me. I think you should also be blasting Metallus, Obi-Wan, and Murta, because I know that they agree with what I'm doing. And now, I'm going to be frank. I know I'm not the only one who thinks this either, because, once again, Metallus and Murta agree with me.
This place is dying, and it's not because of a lack of discssion or members. Look at MixnMojo. Teir community is thriving. This forum is dying because of the stupidity and mob mentality of it's members.
Whenever we get a troublemaker, we get a thread with about 40 replies falming that member. You don't seem to realise that if you ignore them, they will go away. It's not a diffcult concept. What makes it worse is that it is moderators that are leading the charge (specifically, NiKo, Natty and GB122), instead of doing their jobs and simply reporting it to an admin.
You seem to think that the best way out of prolem is to form an attack. And it's not just one of you; it's a whole crapload of people, flaming away. That's just absurd. Report it to a mod or an admin, and it'll get sorted. Again, it's not exactly rocket science.

Kj°len
12-30-2002, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by The Feral Chicken
(specifically, NiKo, Natty and GB122), instead of doing their jobs and simply reporting it to an admin.

Accually, if I remember right, Metallus would rather have the moderators tell the admins of the problems than the members, or it could show that the moderators arent doing their job. Otherwise, I completely agree with you.

Feral
12-30-2002, 09:34 AM
Yes, but Natty, Niko and GB122 are moderators. Maybe not of The Harbor, but they are still moderators of the community.

Kj°len
12-30-2002, 09:56 AM
Thats what I said, read it again :)

Guybrush122
12-31-2002, 01:08 PM
When a trouble maker comes to forums I think we should duke it out. Better for everyone, troublemaker and flamers of the troublemaker, to say what they wanna say. I'd rather exchange arguments, and if it gets to far (as it usually does) or if it gets way too old (a la mek) then an administrator should be informed. But, you have to admit, a troublemaker keeps us frequently coming to the forums. When someone IM's you on ICQ or AIM telling you about what that arse (blank) did then you rush to the harbor like it was a call to arms. It keeps people thriving in the forums.

Now, don't get me wrong, if the troublemaker is just intrested in childish insults that make no sense (ie **** you, ill kill you, you ****ing bitch) or if he/she is just a plain idiot then by all means, inform an administrator. But if a troublemaker presents an argument we SHOULD continue to argue. It's HEALTHY for Christ's sake.

Feral
12-31-2002, 01:21 PM
No, it's what I like to call "stupid". They're only going to keep coming back if we give them something to argue about.
Oh, and another AG spam alert: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=967375#post967375

Joshi
12-31-2002, 02:07 PM
i dunno, it depends. i just had a heated discussion with someone on a different forums, but that was a reasonable argument. if someone came along and said "Monkey is crap!!!" then i wouldn't argue, i'd just ignore the idiot. but the argument i was having earlier was about the ending to MI2 adn whether guybrush is really just a kid or not. that, i would consider, is a reasonable argument and one worth argueing about.

Drunken_Sailor
01-01-2003, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by Doodle Dude of Doom
If you block me, okay... Then I know you are a bad moderator. But I put my membership on that. If that's needed to telling you how a moderator should be like, then it's worth it.

No one has the right to judge any one according to her/his decision in front of a group of people to order her/him out.

If you have a complaint, maybe you should send him a PM, instead of posting a thread against him.

I think Feral has done a great job most of the time, although some of his comments in this thread are a bit objectionable. Aside from that, keep up the good work Feral. :)

Oh, and happy new year everyone!

:D

Natty
01-01-2003, 10:16 PM
I might not be a mod of the harbor (and even when I check old school which I *am* a mod of, IMO there never seems to be any problems) and since nothing ever seems to

A- post in old school
B- there are no real problems in old school (least IMO)

I don't feel like I am a mod- which makes me think that the mods need to be re looked at and reconsidered (not that theres anything wrong with the mods- I'm talking more specifically about people who are mods but haven't posted in like 6months or something) and in that case should those who are mods and still post on a regular basis be made overall mods? I'm not saying this because I want a more active role. I just don't think you can have a forum which functions well when half the mods are never here- that's all I'm trying to say (sorry if it's came out wrong, I know what I mean) I post on a music forum, and the mods there don't do anything at all, the board is overrun with abusive and insulting posts, death threats and so on- I'd hate for this forum to end up the same way

However, if there is a problem in the harbor and someone feels like a mod isn't doing his job or isn't responding to complaints, then please feel free to contact me and I will see if I can help out in some way. I have Feral on MSN so I can contact him there.

I wonder if it's a good idea for all *active* mods to swap say email addy's/MSN/ICQ at least that way if there is a problem in whichever forum/s that hasn't been attended to

Guybrush122
01-02-2003, 06:05 AM
well put, natty, well put. i also have feral on AIM, so if anybody has a problem and cant contact him, by all means get in touch with me

my email is liberatethepeople@muchomail.com and my AIM is Freak0415



:D

Faith
01-02-2003, 10:36 AM
i dont see why topics are constantly closed , i posted it here because i didnt know bout the other forum... but its GENERAL DISCUSSION! you can discuss ANYTHING here even if it is points and the new system... mayb peeps from this forum dont go on the other booards (like me most the time)!

Feral
01-02-2003, 11:35 AM
That's why I linked you directly to the other topic made for direct feedback about the points system.

Natty
01-02-2003, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Guybrush122
well put, natty, well put. i also have feral on AIM, so if anybody has a problem and cant contact him, by all means get in touch with me

my email is liberatethepeople@muchomail.com and my AIM is Freak0415



:D


Thanx babes :)

If anyone needs me I can be contacted on

Email- shimma_girl@yahoo.com
MSN- all_silly_n_stuff@hotmail.com
ICQ-22344468