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Pnut_Man
02-02-2003, 05:54 PM
Post your ideas about where our technology is going and will go. You can talk about anything from videogames to automobiles to housing...

Looking at the videogaming industry:
The current playstation 2 models display an average of 5000 polygons per model. I Believe the next step in videogaming will allow the normal model to have over 50000 polygons.

Reborn Outcast
02-02-2003, 06:22 PM
ALL OF THESE COULD HAPPEN VERY SOON OR THEY COULD BE VERY FAR AWAY.

Autos: I think that Hydrogen powered cars are gonna come out and then (dunno how long from now) I hope that we will be able to replace cars with ships (like Star Wars :D ) That would be cool.

Video Games: I believe that these will someday let us actually go into the game and make it 3d around us instead of watching it on a screen.

Housing: Robots will be used in every house and we will have "smart houses" which can clean themselves, open doors, and cook food etc. on word of mouth command.

TV: I have no idea what could become of tvs...

Comps: Huge amounts of data can be stored memory cards and harddrives that are the size of your fingernail. Eye comps in which where you move your eye dictates where the "mouse moves". The screen is only on one eye and fits like a hat.

Space Exploration: With the events of the Columbia... who can say now. But I do believe that there will be colonies out in space (like the ring in Halo) and that we wil be able to colonize Mars and other planets.

Time Travel: I wouldn't want this to be invented but it could happen.. I think that it would only make the world worse because if it got into the wrong person's hands...

Teleportation: I believe that someday we will be able to teleport to anyplace on the face of the earth as long as there is a receptor there.

RoguePhotonic
02-02-2003, 10:34 PM
Teleportation: I believe that someday we will be able to teleport to anyplace on the face of the earth as long as there is a receptor there.

They already have proven this can be done...but it's along ways away before we will be able to...think though...that would change the world in so many ways...no more forms of travel like trains or planes...just your friendly teleportation station :p

I think that bio implants will start being sold to improve yourself...and then it will be taken so far that "we are the borg...you will be assimilated"...not joking though:(

obi
02-02-2003, 11:30 PM
Technology makes humans arrogant, I feel. We think we are so great because we can do just about anything with technology, while all across the world, "12:00" blinks on VCR's in silent mockery of our "achievements."


However, Technology is also very key to survival nowadays, and there is no way to escape it. It will find you. It is like a predator. It's stalking you. It's hiding in your computer, your tv, your radio. It's out to get you.


Ahem, just a public service announcement, this post was made while I have the temparature of 101 degrees and have a sharp pain in my back.

Luc Solar
02-03-2003, 04:53 AM
I believe that computer games will be "3D", not just a screen that you keep staring at.

I believe games will get physical.
Your physical strenght, speed and precision will play a role in who is l337 and who isn't.
There will be real "force feedback". If you get hit, you'll feel it. And I'm not just talking about a mouse that vibrates. :D

Pnut_Man
02-03-2003, 07:41 AM
Of course, I can see Virtual Reality making a comeback. We are slowly gaining the knowledge and the technology to take Virtual Reality to the "real level". I'm guessing in about 20 or so years, there will be options to allow yourself to live double your lifespan. Doctors will go in and increase the lifespan of your cells while altering your DNA (heard about it in science last year..O-o). Eventually once laws have been passed to allow it, Genetic Engineering will get big, and possibly the dreaded "cloning".

Here's another interesting topic: Where do you think Warfare Techonology is going? Will we one day use Mech Machines in battle?

BCanr2d2
02-03-2003, 08:13 AM
Technology will generally lead us where it is economically viable for companies to do so. VHS is technologically inferior to BETA, yet we use VHS, since it was in the market at the right place at the right time.

CRT's will not disappear whilst it is still cost effective to make them cheaply compared to alternatives.

VCR's will not disappear until digital forms of recording are cost effective, and "free" from heavy copyright infringement. After all, if digital recording is allowed, then it won't take much to interface it to a PC....

DVD's are an example where one technology has helped sales in closely related items. Buy a DVD player, get the Dolby Digital/DTS receiver, and the 5 or 6 speakers, along with the subwoofer, and a larger screen. Why would companies come up with something that makes this kind of upgrade scale non-existant, it would only lead to loss in profits...

You could go on and on about what could happen, but whilst there are companies that make huge profits over what we currently use, they will also control what we will use to replace that item.

FunClown
02-03-2003, 09:27 AM
Speaking of warfare, I downloaded a 74 page .pdf unclassified US military document that was about space warfare and plans on what to develop looking towards the year 2025.

Its an interesting read, its at www.theblackvault.com and is called ADA392588.pdf but its title is "Star Tek--Eploiting the Final Frontier: Counter Space Operations in the year 2025" if you wish to search for it. *Forget how I found it. It is legit however. Check with the FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) if you wish.

3d monitors are already out, but cost a lot and only have the 3D effect within a 5 degree radius. So you can get uncomfortable having to sit in the same position. That was two years ago however.

Transporting devices like in Star Trek are feasible and have been successful in experiments with a photon being transported and I think a laser beam as wellor some sought of light. However, the original copy is destroyed which leads to ethical issues. And for it to be practical for living things, it must be precise (I'm not talking just to the millimetre here ;) ) Check www.howstuffworks.com for some information. It would be much like a fax, but the copy being sent being destroyed.

Video games I think will be going towards smarter polygons rather than quantity of polygons (This is what John Carmack wants and he usually gets it ;) ), so a hundred passes of one polygon would be better than having 100 polygons so to speak. Doom 3 actually has artists make 1,000,000 polygon models and they run it through a program and it turns it into a 5000 polygon model but looks very much the same because the 5000 polygon model is bump mapped which uses shadow techniques which looks very good and saves a lot of graphics power.

You can also see the road to smarter polygons being taken now with greater use of pixel and vertex shaders. Note, these do not refer specifically to shadowing as the name may sound. :)

Oh yeah, and Jamaica gets voted in unanimously to head the UN. :)

Kstar__2
02-03-2003, 09:30 AM
i think that everything will be more interactive, like games that you will actualy play using VR, or a kitchen that makes the food himself, that kind of stuff

ShadowTemplar
02-03-2003, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by Reborn Outcast
I hope that we will be able to replace cars with ships (like Star Wars :D ) That would be cool.

Hovercars have actually been put to R&D, I think.

Originally posted by Reborn Outcast
TV: I have no idea what could become of tvs...

They would survive, in some form or another, I think. Like the radio: Very, very practical, even if something more advanced pops up.

Originally posted by Reborn Outcast
Space Exploration: With the events of the Columbia... who can say now. But I do believe that there will be colonies out in space (like the ring in Halo) and that we wil be able to colonize Mars and other planets.

I believe that colonization of space is the only way to prevent a specicidal war: I think that humans need never-ceaseing expansion. But we'll have to see what comes first...

Originally posted by Reborn Outcast
Time Travel: I wouldn't want this to be invented but it could happen.. I think that it would only make the world worse because if it got into the wrong person's hands...

I'd like to see someone get around the Grandmother Paradox.

Originally posted by Reborn Outcast
Teleportation: I believe that someday we will be able to teleport to anyplace on the face of the earth as long as there is a receptor there.

Thing is, though, you'd most likely have to be split up into atoms and reasembled at the destination. With our present knowledge of the mind, that would mean death. But objects... Oh, boy...

Technology makes humans arrogant, I feel. We think we are so great because we can do just about anything with technology, while all across the world, "12:00" blinks on VCR's in silent mockery of our "achievements."

Technology has made us divine. Take a caveman without technology and put him into a modern world. He would worship us as gods, or fear us to be daemons, or both. "Let there be light, God said (and pressed the switch), and there was light." (Note: I'm not trying to be blasphemous (this time).) We are arrogant for a good reason.

Or another example: With Roman numbers it took a high education to learn how to multiply two numbers. With the Arabian ones and a pocket calculator, it takes close to five seconds.

Oh, I almost forgot the advances I think will come: Depends on a lot of things, really. I have no idea what ground-breaking stuff will crop up (or it wouldn't be ground-breaking), but bigger, better everythings would be a possibility. Unless we are plunged into another Dark Age, which I consider a very real possibility.

Lime-Light
02-07-2003, 09:19 PM
Before ANYTHING can happen, there needs to be a better source of energy, say fusion. Once that's accomplished, and cheaply, there is really no limit. With such power, teleportation wouldnt be that far off. Space colonization would be feasable, ect.

__CKY__
02-07-2003, 09:52 PM
It would 0wn if we could get lightsabers rofl or a laser gun or some 0wnage jetpacks like Jango's lol speaking of a true SW fan lmao oh and i think it would be fun if they made a thing where when you click it you get any fast food you want lmao :rofl:

RoguePhotonic
02-08-2003, 12:31 AM
I think lightsabers can't be done...because what is stopping the laser?....it's not possible for it to just stop like that.....

__CKY__
02-08-2003, 12:34 AM
Hey maybe in the future we will uncover some new things :)

C'jais
02-08-2003, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by RoguePhotonic
I think lightsabers can't be done...because what is stopping the laser?....it's not possible for it to just stop like that.....

It's not a laser. It's a plasma core surrounded by a "force field" similar to that of the Deathstar and other capital ships. Once it's possible to make such a futuristic force shield, it'd most likely be possible to safely shield a plasma core with variable length.

Starwars.com does amazing things to your knowledge of pseudoscience.

RoguePhotonic
02-08-2003, 05:17 PM
Pointless....a forcefield around it?...well then it would be like hitting someone with a stick since nothing will pass through the shield....

C'jais
02-08-2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by RoguePhotonic
Pointless....a forcefield around it?...well then it would be like hitting someone with a stick since nothing will pass through the shield....

Yeah... pretty much just a stick..... that's a few thousand degrees hot.

Pnut_Man
02-08-2003, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by C'jais
Yeah... pretty much just a stick..... that's a few thousand degrees hot.

Lmao...

If lightsabers were ever made I wouldn't expect to see them in the local pawn shop...They'll probably be on the black market, just like those good ole nuclear warheads..

Echuu Shen-Jon
02-08-2003, 05:41 PM
Hmm...Lightsabers, peace, good environment and colonization of distant planets...

Echuu Shen-Jon
02-08-2003, 05:43 PM
What is fusion?

__CKY__
02-08-2003, 06:50 PM
I would pay alot even at the black market to get a lightsaber lol that would be so awesome to have :D

RoguePhotonic
02-08-2003, 07:16 PM
Hmmm...I suppose you might be able to heat the forcefield...but ****...if you could would be to hot to hold....

C'jais
02-08-2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by RoguePhotonic
Hmmm...I suppose you might be able to heat the forcefield...but ****...if you could would be to hot to hold....

The idea is that the force field shields you from the heat as it allows none to escape. But once you touch it, the heat is put on the object.

Of course, this rests on however we define this "force field" business. There are many paradoxes too it: Won't the air itself be turned into plasma as soon as it hits the saber? Shouldn't the saber be unable to cast a shadow? Wouldn't it result in the saber having no mass at all (therefore making it impossible to swing it about as seen in the movies with a gravitional focal point on the blade, and not in the hilt as would be expected if it had no mass)?

Psydan
02-08-2003, 11:16 PM
Im thinking... matter materializers, rearranging atoms in front of you to create objects..gotta figure out how to keep them stable though, but hey, is a fun idea to think about..and huge VR rooms that require some of us lazier game-players to actually get up off our butts and use something besides our thumbs to play some games, or at least better graphics on games, though I think that a lot of graphics now are pretty good...
Well, we know those ancestors of ours will be able to do something better than us, I mean some of those Sci-Fi dreams have to come true, right?

__CKY__
02-09-2003, 01:22 PM
Yea I think you have a good point there :)

Please write somewhat lengthier and deeper response in the future, or I'll be forced to delete them -C'jais

FunClown
02-09-2003, 10:20 PM
You can get lightsabers...You know the toy ones that were banned at airports. Forget if this was in Australia or the US. :D

Also, just to add to what I said on video games. I think the amount of polygons and textures will increase but so will the amount of processing on each polygon and texture.

Pnut_Man
02-09-2003, 11:04 PM
Future of successful videogames:

Eventually game creators will understand that replay value is very important.. They'll add so many elements and paths for your character to go on that you'll be totally overwhelmed. Online gaming will soon get very big, the microphone device from xbox will be intergrated into many of the other big videogame systems.

(ill add more tomorrow..so tired..zzzz..)

SkinWalker
02-09-2003, 11:39 PM
I anticipate that the flexible LCD Screen (http://www.sarnoff.com/news/flexdisplay.asp) will be big in 10 years or so. This will allow portable devices to be stored small, but "unrolled" to produce a larger screen. We may get two-way video cell phones, etc. from technology like this.

I actually envision that the technology may one day become cheap enough that newspapers could be delivered wirelessly and viewed on a small device coded specifically for that publisher. Imagine being able to browse the sunday paper without getting all that ink on your hands, killing untold trees, creating who-knows-how-much pollution from delivery drivers, burning who-knows-how-much fuel printing and delivering the printed papers.

SkinWalker

BCanr2d2
02-12-2003, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by {MGS}Echuu
What is fusion?

We are talking about Nuclear fusion here, where atoms collide and fuse with each other, similar to what happens on the Sun, and we use the heat from this fusion in the same way we harness the heat from nuclear fission.
Current nuclear power is from fission, where we cause atoms to lose electrons to cause chain reactions. In other words currently we break up atoms instead of joining them together for nuclear energy...

WE have the "cold fusion" fakes, where people claimed that they had achieved nuclear fusion at room temperature...