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Samuel Dravis
02-22-2003, 03:00 PM
So, what is the best single player RPG? I'm thinking about getting NWN - it looks good....what do you think?

Hekx
02-22-2003, 03:05 PM
Final Fantasy series. :)

Tyrion
02-22-2003, 03:11 PM
Final Fantasy.

The Campaign in NWN sucks. Majorly.

But NWN has some really great persistant worlds to play one.

Pnut_Man
02-22-2003, 03:26 PM
Morrowind is a nice game. I got Neverwinter nights for christmas. It had a really nice system and storyline, took me about 20 hours to beat. If you're into long ass rpgs get Morrowind ;)

XERXES
02-22-2003, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by Samuel Dravis
So, what is the best single player RPG? I'm thinking about getting NWN - it looks good....what do you think? NWN IS AWFUL TRUST ME. If you have a PS2 get Suikoden 1 and 2 (their actually ps1 games, but they play on 2) beat them, then play Suikoden 3. Those are the best RPGs EVER, that is...if your all about the story and plotline. You probably wont find those games in a store anywhere...the best place to buy them is eBay because the games were not publisized at all.

Final Fantasy is great too, some are better than others ill give ya a quick run down starting with the playstaion ones cause i assume you wont wana play the SNES ones (which are better IMO)

FFVII - a legend, you must play this no questions asked.

FFVIII - Very good FF game, I think its the most serious FF game, VERY GOOD ENDING. This game is better if youve played the SNES final fantasies though.

FFIX - dunno I didnt get that far into it, the story didnt pull me in.

FFX - Awesome game, awesome graphics, very fun and exciting however, you feel like you are being led around the entire time, what i mean is...you dont have a lot of freedom as to what you will do next.

i havet played FFXI yet, but its online. blah.


i suggest when playing the FF series DO NOT use strategy guides or whatnot cause simply its more fun when you gotta figure out where things are and so on by yourself. You can go back and try to do everything possible in the game, that is fun as well...but for the first time you play them...concentrate on the storyline.

Breton
02-22-2003, 04:09 PM
If you want a great sp RPG, try Morrowind. The combat is a bit too simple, but except from that, it's about perfect. You can do nearly whatever you want, and it is totally open ended. A lot of different skills, all from alchemy to armoring, from Axe skill to sneaking skill, and there's a lot of neat magic (not only magic that will damage your enemy, you can do nearly whatever you want with magic. Conjure a sword, summon a Golden Saint, mix up a potion, teleport, telegrab, make yourself invisible, open locks, walk on water, etc.). I especially like stealing, tha's really fun.

BTW, don't listen to the others about FF, even though they are great games, they are not RPGs.

Katarn07
02-22-2003, 04:38 PM
Baldurs Gate II: Shadows of Amn is my all time favorite. And what's cool is you don't have to have played the 1st to like the old characters. Characters and story are great, as is roaming Athkatla... :D

XERXES
02-22-2003, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by JM Qui-Gon Jinn

BTW, don't listen to the others about FF, even though they are great games, they are not RPGs. you are very wrong, an RPG does NOT mean it has to follow something similar to the D&D rules. An rpg means you take up the role of a character(s) im disgusted by that statement you said.


and btw, if you guys wana play some real rpgs...get out the D&D books a few friends and start writin down...

nova_wolf
02-22-2003, 05:09 PM
NOT THIS TOPIC AGAIN........

FFVII - it may now look dated and the music may not be what people want, but if a single RPG is what you want, it is the only option.

The only game to come close to the depth, comic moments, twists and excellent game system is Legend of Dragoon, which I also strongly recommend.

FFVII has the plot, characters, comedy just randomly thrown in during serious sequences that add a nice touch, mini-quests to die for, a game system which has the quick simple use way and the depp masterful strategy way.
Extra battles (the Weapons).
A bad guy that you meet from the off, and learn about, and sympathise with. he is not just introduced at the end, or ignored for a bigger baddie at the end like FFs VII & IX, but right to the end, you chase him.
It plays with your mind, perspective and emotions (one character wil have you gunning for the bad guy like nothing from one point on)
The musis, whilst midi on the whole, is excellently written - and used to good effect. The pivotal event mentioned above is followed by a battle, where the music is replaced with non-batle music. The effect was HUGE!
So many random things thrown in that give moments of perspective.
It did not need fancy graphics, horrible controls, highly logical mind.
It was serious, and yet did not take itself too serious.
Replay value is huge! - Dude - I am playing it for the FOURTH time round because there is still stuff I have yet to do and see!

GET IT!!!!! You won't regret it. Give it time, get into it, and it will be some of the best £15 you'll ever spend.

Legend of Dragoon is a gem also. raphics and music are similar, butnot vastly. The cutscenes are much better. But it kept the plot and characters as the focus, having an event similar to FFVII, which only adds to it's charm.
Its unique battle system - the Dragoons.... BEAUTIFUL! I had transform on always!

Again - £15/£20 you'll not regret.

nova_wolf
02-22-2003, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by XERXES
you are very wrong, an RPG does NOT mean it has to follow something similar to the D&D rules. An rpg means you take up the role of a character(s) im disgusted by that statement you said.


and btw, if you guys wana play some real rpgs...get out the D&D books a few friends and start writin down...

He's true - FFs are RPGs too.

RPG is a role playing game - you are playing a role.

Hell - technically, ALL games are RPG, so lets now go this route!

Basically, FF is thought to be the lighter, easier to get into end of the RPG scale, and thats fitting.

Not that I am knocking NWN, hope to have a PC capable of playing it myself one day, but it is the more matrue end of the scale.

Thats all it is.

Breton
02-22-2003, 05:37 PM
Is Monkey Island an RPG? No.

An RPG is a game where you get to denvelop your character in wichever way you want. You play a role, but that role must be your own, not a role that the game has decided that you have. To say it this way: If you would be able to chop Zell's head off in the middle of FFVIII, then it would be RPG.

nova_wolf
02-22-2003, 06:31 PM
Wow - for sake of sanity, lets leave this whole topic lie... Too many Swampies have been in this battle already....

Back to the RPG recommendations....

XERXES
02-22-2003, 07:13 PM
not every single RPG can be perfect according to your personal standards JM Qui-Gon Jinn. The characters in FF series DO develop as the game goes along. I think the Suikoden series are some of the best RPGs, there is so much freedom in those games compared to the FF series. And if your gona play Suikoden, there IS a PS2 one called SUikoden 3 but do NOT play it unless youve already played 1 and 2, trust me.

Luc Solar
02-22-2003, 07:38 PM
Ok. excuse me if I'm being too blunt but I'm drunk so...


FF's are not RPG's. The sole fact that you're playing "a character" does not mean that it is a RPG.
Try playing Doom >> playing the l337 guy who's killing all things that are moving is ROLEPLAYING, yes? :rolleyes:

My favourite is the BG-series. It's not perfect but it's very, very good. If you want to play a pretty adventure game go with the FF's, but...really, people - those games have NOTHING to do with RPG's.

And NO - Diablo is not an RPG either! :swear:

Darklighter
02-22-2003, 08:02 PM
FFVIII, to be more specific. IMO, it had the best characters, storyline and gameplay dynamics out of the whole series. There were some minor niggles about the battle system, but overall I'd class it as the most enjoyable RPG I've ever played.

Tyrion
02-22-2003, 08:08 PM
Nah,sorry Darky, but Cloud has,and always will, beat Squall in Coolness and Power.

:D

Rogue Nine
02-22-2003, 08:18 PM
Chrono Trigger was the first RPG I ever played. Still ranks as one of the best I've ever sunk my teeth into. FFX is up there too. It's got to have one of the best endings ever to any game. And the fact that there's a direct sequel coming out isn't too shabby at all. :D

nova_wolf
02-23-2003, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by Tyrion
Nah,sorry Darky, but Cloud has,and always will, beat Squall in Coolness and Power.

:D

Omni Slash or Leonheart.... Sorry, but Leon hart was against a no-idea-where-you-came-from baddy, and you were not necessarily ever gonna see it.

Omnislash however you ARE gonna see - guarantee. If you get round to completing FFVII, you WILL see it - and it is usd in an excellent way!

Rogue15
02-23-2003, 01:39 PM
FFVII!!!!! but next year it'll definetely be FABLE!!!!! (http://www.planetxbox.com/projectego)

ZBomber
02-23-2003, 01:43 PM
Yup. Final Fantay XII. I'm not even a big RP person, yet, I was hooked on this game for awhile. :)

_SA_Shinzon_
02-24-2003, 01:55 PM
Without a doubt, Morrowind. Though I'm a fan of the Final Fantasy games, IMHO they aren't REAL RPG games. IMO, they lack enough sidequests and custom settings to really be a full RPG. Morrowind, on the other hand, lets you be about anything. You can make your own custom class, and the endless slew of plugins out there, which can be made with ease with the included construction set, makes sure that there's always something new to do.

Final Fantasy games, IMO, are really more like interactive movies, in which the user is given some choices here and there at what non-essential scenes can be included.

Samuel Dravis
02-24-2003, 04:07 PM
Ok, thanks! I'll look at morrowind and FF

XERXES
02-24-2003, 04:33 PM
your character developes in final fantasy...in doom and those games...you just run around and shoot htings mindlessly.


and play FFVII first, i doubt you will be able to find a copy of the old Suikoden games.

Breton
02-24-2003, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by XERXES
your character developes in final fantasy...

...but you can't choose what they will develop into.

ckcsaber
02-24-2003, 05:57 PM
Zelda: A Link to the Past

Yup, this is the game where Link has purple hair, and is a cartoon, but who cares! Its challenging, longlasting, and FUN!

whitedragon
02-24-2003, 06:10 PM
i love xenogears. you can say final fantasy till your head pops off but in my book xenogears is #1 final fantasy is #2

Clemme w/Stick
02-24-2003, 06:17 PM
I'm surprised that no one has said Morrowind yet! Oh well, then I'm gonna say it. Morrowind or one of the Zelda games has to be the best single player RPG of all time, so with that out of the way, we can continue this thread!

-Clemme

Breton
02-24-2003, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by Clemme w/Stick
I'm surprised that no one has said Morrowind yet! Oh well, then I'm gonna say it. Morrowind or one of the Zelda games has to be the best single player RPG of all time, so with that out of the way, we can continue this thread!

-Clemme

:eyeraise:

Originally posted by Pnut_Master
Morrowind is a nice game. I got Neverwinter nights for christmas. It had a really nice system and storyline, took me about 20 hours to beat. If you're into long ass rpgs get Morrowind

Originally posted by JM Qui-Gon Jinn
If you want a great sp RPG, try Morrowind. The combat is a bit too simple, but except from that, it's about perfect. You can do nearly whatever you want, and it is totally open ended. A lot of different skills, all from alchemy to armoring, from Axe skill to sneaking skill, and there's a lot of neat magic (not only magic that will damage your enemy, you can do nearly whatever you want with magic. Conjure a sword, summon a Golden Saint, mix up a potion, teleport, telegrab, make yourself invisible, open locks, walk on water, etc.). I especially like stealing, tha's really fun.

Originally posted by _SA_Shinzon_
Without a doubt, Morrowind. Though I'm a fan of the Final Fantasy games, IMHO they aren't REAL RPG games. IMO, they lack enough sidequests and custom settings to really be a full RPG. Morrowind, on the other hand, lets you be about anything. You can make your own custom class, and the endless slew of plugins out there, which can be made with ease with the included construction set, makes sure that there's always something new to do.

Clemme w/Stick
02-24-2003, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by JM Qui-Gon Jinn
:eyeraise:

My bad...:(! I didnt read the whole thread, but hey its human to fail..:D! I just looked through the thread real quick and then put in my 0.02.... Sorry for this little misunderstanding, and I'll get this matter cleared as quick as possible.

-Clemme

Breton
02-24-2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Clemme w/Stick
My bad...:(! I didnt read the whole thread, but hey its human to fail..:D! I just looked through the thread real quick and then put in my 0.02.... Sorry for this little misunderstanding, and I'll get this matter cleared as quick as possible.

-Clemme

I see.

Well, we can all agree that Morrowind is a great game though. Got a pretty awsome sword now too: Daedric daikatana, enchanted with 50-60 (I think) frost damage.