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KevinCoyle
03-01-2003, 02:39 AM
I've decided my next project will be a complete obi-wan model pack containing every version of obi-wan for the Star Wars movies. The reasons I'm doing this even though there are already obi-wan models out there is because #1, I was disappointed that jolts' very accurate obi-wan models were not going to be released, and #2, I wanted to do a main star wars character and really try to make the face as accurate as possible as kind of as a challenge to myself. The choice came down to do Leia or obi-wan, I've decided to do both but chose the obi-wan pack to do first for the simple reason that obi-wan reference pictures were easier to find.

When finished, this pack will contain robed and unrobed versions of episode 1 & 2 obi-wans, version 2 of my old Ben model and a "ghost" Ben Kenobi.

Here is a screenshot on what I have so far of obi-wan face. Any comments, constructive critism and helpful suggestions are welcome.

Obi-wan Face (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/jedimodels/obiwan.jpg)

wassup
03-01-2003, 04:27 AM
Nice work!! :thumbsup:

As for that screenshot, I think the forehead should be a tiny weeny flatter and the nose a big more rounded. Otherwise, good start!! Good luck!!

HHMaverick
03-01-2003, 07:54 AM
Great work! :)

boinga1
03-01-2003, 10:04 AM
alright...now i have a new ep2 obi thread to look forward to...

YEE-HAH

HHMaverick
03-01-2003, 10:24 AM
Yeah. I`am looking forward to a Ep2 Obi, too.

Padawan_7
03-01-2003, 10:56 AM
Good start KevinCoyle.

The one thing I could suggest is to make Obi's face a bit broader. Right now, in comparison to the reference photo, the model's face is too thin.

[JKZ]_Yun
03-01-2003, 01:09 PM
nice model!!!
can't wait:)

KevinCoyle
03-01-2003, 01:13 PM
Here are some more screenshots

obiwanhead 2 (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/jedimodels/obiwanhead2.jpg)

obiwanhead3 (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/jedimodels/obiwanhead3.jpg)

Hellfire Jedi
03-01-2003, 01:59 PM
Kevin I need to talk to you......
MSN: hitman4life67@hotmail.com
ICQ: 330902605

nomad
03-01-2003, 03:24 PM
That's great news! Really nice looking!
Once again it looks like you've captured a good resemblence.
How much deleting and reworking do you do to get the faces at this stage? I figure alot, but I was just wondering how quickly you reach a facial resemblence like that (and Old Ben's).
Thanks again for your awesome contributions :D

-nomad

MTFBWY

KevinCoyle
03-01-2003, 08:11 PM
To Hellfire Jedi: I've sent you an authorization request over icq.

To nomad:

It actually doesn't take that long. I've worked out a method thats pretty quick and usually comes out fairly accurate. It's based on this guy's .tutorial (http://www.comet-cartoons.com/toons/3ddocs/headpolymodel/) on modeling heads with polys in max 4. The tutorial is directed toward making high-poly heads but I've adapted the process for low poly heads (basically less detail on the ears and the absence of meshsmooth). If you can find a straight-on portrait and side profile of the face, it usually comes out pretty good. Using editable polys instead of editable mesh makes the model more flexible. I usually don't have to delete anything because I can't get it to look right, most flaws I run in to can be repaired. I started the model last night and it took about 2 hours to get it to the point of the first screenshot I posted.

Altus_Thrawn
03-01-2003, 08:58 PM
Nice work!

Elessar-Eärfalas
03-01-2003, 09:00 PM
looking good kevin. i like your idea of an all obi pack, sounds kool....lookin good to! you got some sick modeling skills :thumbsup:

kinggungan
03-02-2003, 05:11 AM
I signed up for an account just to add to this thread -- I love the Ep IV Obi-Wan and cannot wait to see what you do with the rest.

I know you mentioned Leia, but how about Plo Koon next?

Again, GREAT WORK! 4 STARS

Eldritch
03-02-2003, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by kinggungan
I know you mentioned Leia, but how about Plo Koon next?


Plo Koon has already been worked on. Have a little patience, it should be out soon.

Work looks good so far, Kevin. Nice to see you back modeling after a little break. ;)

KevinCoyle
03-04-2003, 02:08 AM
Just a little update

obiwanhead 4 (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/jedimodels/obiwanhead4.jpg)

obiwanhead 5 (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/jedimodels/obiwanhead5.jpg)

Matt-Liell
03-04-2003, 08:48 AM
Very Nice! :thumbsup:

Looks alot like him!

Scotchy
03-05-2003, 01:27 AM
Very nice sofar

His head is a little fat behind the ears in the last pic.

KevinCoyle
03-05-2003, 08:35 PM
Here is another update. I fixed the width of the head behind the ears and made some adjustments to the jawline. I also began a very early skin to help work out the details, it currently lacks any significant detail though.

obiwanheadearlyskin (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/jedimodels/obiwanearlyskin.jpg)

boinga1
03-05-2003, 10:56 PM
wow! will you be using the same head (w/ diferent hair and a beard) for the ep2 version?

wassup
03-05-2003, 11:05 PM
whoa sweetness!!

Eldritch
03-05-2003, 11:56 PM
The hair in that comparison picture is a little "poofier" when compared to the model. Try adding a bit more volume to the hair in the model.

It's coming along great, though! :)

Mest
03-06-2003, 02:19 AM
thicker chin.

KevinCoyle
03-08-2003, 12:10 AM
Another update. I thickened the chin a bit and made the hair little poofer, though it still isn't quite right yet. Also added more detail to the skin and eyes.

obiwanhead7 (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/jedimodels/obiwanhead7.jpg)

SkiTzoGuy
03-08-2003, 01:09 AM
OMG :eek:
This obi-wan model looks so realistic!... Keep up with the good work! :vik4: just one question coyle.. Are you goin to help someone with the model Pablo Jill?.. it may have died but im not sure.. n e ways just wonderin.:rolleyes:
BTW: If anyone is Willing to Donate credits to me i would very much appreciate it.. Thank You (MAHALO)


:jawa

Daskers
03-09-2003, 07:29 AM
Great. It already looks 10 times better than Toonces (sorry mate). Will it have facial animations because if so then I have no hesitation in a quick and swift replacement. :)

Brodin
03-09-2003, 12:19 PM
Looks good. Too bad i dont have any of the Star Wars games >_<

I should prolly go pick up a copy of JK2 in a couple days. But for now, ill have to remain a Counter-Strike player/mapper/skinner :)

Pnut_Man
03-09-2003, 12:28 PM
Since obi-wan has spiked hair (jedi use gel, crazy stuff O_o) you'll probably need to model individual hair strands that come off of his head (it would look really awesome too :P).

Brodin
03-09-2003, 02:36 PM
Kevin, What programs do you use to make the models?

I want to start getting into modelling as well as mapping (which i do now)

SkiTzoGuy
03-09-2003, 07:07 PM
Like i said before Wow! :eek:
obi-wan is looking realistic everytime!..
Yes it would be cool if you can see the hair spiked up :cool:
Well keep up with the good work! ;)


___________________
:koon: I Shall wait patiently for his day to come..
It is an honor being a Plo Koon Fan!

Rebel_Spy
03-09-2003, 07:57 PM
sweet! Is very accurate so far, keep up!, you have awesome model skills, dude!

Zippo85
03-11-2003, 04:08 PM
Hey Great! Model man!

Im Realy looking forward t these Obi-wan models. he is just THE jedi.

One thing thou, i know it is a early wip skin but i cant se if it is the skin or the model. but he looks like he is whisteling, the lower lip should be further out.

also i was wondering if you had some links 2 some tutorials. on skinning? im working on a model but need some pointers.

That would be great.
of cource you other guys are welcome to post some 2.
( i know it is not a skinning, nor tutorial thread, but i was just blown away by those pictures).

Chewie Bakker
03-16-2003, 06:49 AM
Wow. Your Obi-Wan model/skin is looking cool, KevinCoyle. I can only hope I can learn to model ½ as well as you can now.

How are you going to tackle the team colours? I tried putting team colours on Al McDonalds Obi-Wan skin by tinting the jedi tunic red and blue, which worked okay, or you might make the belt on the tunic a more solid blue. I guess some places to look would be team-based games like Galactic Battlegrounds and such.

Keep it up. Once it's complete this Obi-Wan pk3 will be another on my "must download" list. :D


Originally posted by Zippo85
Im Realy looking forward t these Obi-wan models. he is just THE jedi.

I couldn't agree with you more, Zippo85. Obi-Wan rocks.

:gben: The Force will be with you, always.

DarkLord60
03-16-2003, 03:55 PM
Wow you got his face structure down exactly.

TK-99
03-17-2003, 06:39 PM
nice!
you should make his eyebrows a little bigger too

AlzWisHum
04-06-2003, 06:02 PM
One of the features I liked in your Old Ben model was the hood/unhooded and the robed/non-robed versions of the model.

BTW: The face structure rocks like the other model, hope you didn't gave up on them! ;)

-=DarkZero=-
04-06-2003, 07:03 PM
Holy crap!

Exalent work man!
Can't wait till it comes out :D jeebus..

Chewie Bakker
04-07-2003, 01:33 AM
I'm looking forward to this... :wid: :D (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/jedimodels/obiwanhead7.jpg)

:wan: (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/jedimodels/obiwan.jpg) :yobi: (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/jedimodels/obiwanhead2.jpg) :aobi: (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/jedimodels/obiwanhead3.jpg) :ben: (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/jedimodels/obiwanhead4.jpg) :gben: (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/jedimodels/obiwanhead5.jpg) :saberb: (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/jedimodels/obiwanearlyskin.jpg)

:gben: (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/kman/images/projects/jk/plo_koon4.jpg) The Force will be with you, always.

SkiTzoGuy
04-07-2003, 02:20 AM
heh I like that movie Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory.
Well anyway back to the topic. Keep up with the good work kevin.
looking forward in seeing this new model of yours:D

.:Solusar:.
04-07-2003, 02:27 AM
I second that. I can't wait for this model to come out.. Im looking forward seeing the new facial and hair details. O how many models are you going to make in this pack kevin?. Just wonderin:D

KevinCoyle
06-30-2003, 02:21 PM
I've finally got back to work on my obi-wan pack, I've been adding detail to each of the heads. Here is an update on the Episode 1 obiwan head. Hopefully soon I'll have updates on Episode 2 obi-wan and old ben.

ObiHead Render 12 (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/images/obiheadrender12.jpg)

KevinCoyle
06-30-2003, 06:02 PM
And here is an update of Old ben's head. I've added more detail to the skin and sharpened it up a bit.

Old Ben Head (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/images/oldbenheadnew.jpg)

Hindy
06-30-2003, 06:07 PM
Wow the Old Ben looks so much better and I really liked the original it looks like the break from JK modeling has done you good.

Excellent work bro :D

boinga1
06-30-2003, 11:15 PM
Model-Makng Wars: Episode VI: Return of KevinCoyle



YAAY! He's back!

RoxStar
07-01-2003, 01:02 AM
Nice models and skins.

Dante Alastor
07-01-2003, 03:32 AM
they are awsome, i cant wait until release!!!:D

Crowy
07-01-2003, 04:35 AM
excellent workings kc, you and psyko seemed to have mastered modelling!

off topic: are you going to continue modeling for jedi academy?

KevinCoyle
07-01-2003, 12:24 PM
Here is an Episode 1 Update

Ep1 Obihead Render 13 (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/images/obiheadrender13.jpg)

To answer Crowy's question, I hope to keep modeling for Jedi Academy, that games sounds like it's going to be really cool. I just hope they still support 3D max 4 for the Jedi Academy editing tools or there's some other way to get it in game from max 4

The Cheat
07-01-2003, 12:40 PM
excellent work, cant wait for this pack, you are a modeling master

do you plan on doing a ghost ben skin?

superracer0022
07-01-2003, 12:49 PM
looks great, can wait for this to be released

btw, do you plan on redoing a lot of the skin from the old ben?

CaladienJedi
07-01-2003, 01:07 PM
wow thats looking really good so far ^_^ nj

Master Hawk
07-01-2003, 05:04 PM
I have a Question for Kevin Coyle.

Kevin I am starting to model and I thought that I would just start off slow and try to edit a reborn. I have 3D Studio Max, and I was wondering if I could edit the .glm file. If so then what do i convert the file to so that it can be opened in 3D Studio.

-Thanks a bunch
-[DJM]-War Hawk-DM-

KevinCoyle
07-02-2003, 09:28 AM
Here is a Screenshot of the Episode 2 Obi-wan head so far, the hair and beard skin still need a lot of work but it's coming along pretty good.

Episode 2 obi-wan head (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/images/ep2obihead.jpg)

For Master Hawk:

If you want to edit the reborn model you could download Milkshape (it's free for a month) and use it to import the glm and then export it from milkshape to .3ds. Then you can import the 3ds into max.

The Cheat
07-02-2003, 10:54 AM
wow, thats all i have to say, i cant wait for a episode 2 obi wan. this pack is looking better and better

<JOTD>Jedi Hunter
07-02-2003, 11:35 AM
I personally look forward to old man obi. THE TRUE OBIWAN! I can't wait. Beautiful. Great job. I love this model. It's my favorite. Well done. (I sound crazy)

Master Hawk
07-02-2003, 01:52 PM
Thank You Very Much Kevin. That's helps out a lot. I have 3D Studio Max version 2. It's an early version and I think it may be holding me back a lot. Time to put in some more time at the office I guess. I hear 5 doesn't come cheap.

Thanks a ton

KevinCoyle
07-02-2003, 07:19 PM
Here's a rendering of an early version of the body for the EP1/2 body. Helpful criticism is encouraged.

Early Body Render (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/images/ep1obibody.jpg)

KevinCoyle
07-02-2003, 07:36 PM
yeah, your right, the head does look a little small on the shoulders. I haven't attached the head to the body yet so it's an easy fix. I'll probably just replace the picture with the update in a few minutes.

To answer your question, I use a box to start modeling heads.

Cornflake
07-02-2003, 08:34 PM
The heads are amazing exept the Ben Kenobi head which is above amazing .I hope to download the models soon .
Keep up the good work .

Hellfire Jedi
07-02-2003, 08:56 PM
Arg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There NOT SKINS!!! There MODELS and top notch PROFESSIONAL ones. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT skins.

The Cheat
07-02-2003, 09:23 PM
these are looking great, are the bodies for episodes 1 and 2 the same?

Crowy
07-03-2003, 11:17 AM
the head does seem too... small... but i tihnk... the neck may be the cause.. it seems to be... twiggy slightly... if that makes sense...
(please note: if this post does not make sense it may be due to me being tired)

<JOTD>Jedi Hunter
07-03-2003, 04:58 PM
I think the legs look a bit thick above the boots. I'm aware that he's wearing pants. But they seem a bit thick. I suggest making them just a little bit thinner.

ZBomber
07-03-2003, 05:35 PM
Nice, but I think the Episode 2 Obi needs to have more blond in his hair. ;)

Dante Alastor
07-03-2003, 07:31 PM
well one thing that might not be too big of a deal, but i always thought ep2 obi wan's robes were always a bit baggier?

KaiaSowapit
07-04-2003, 08:05 AM
Wow, looks fantastic Kevin... what do I win if I can guess what scene in Ep II you're using as reference for Ewan McGregor?

P.S. How's our little friend coming? :)

The Cheat
07-04-2003, 05:46 PM
wouldnt he use several scenes to make it more accurate?

KaiaSowapit
07-04-2003, 11:24 PM
wouldnt he use several scenes to make it more accurate?

Most likely, of course. I meant it as a complement. :)

Kevin has captured the essence of McGregor so well, I can nearly compare it directly to a still-frame. Yes the beard and the hair in particular need some work, but the eyes and bone structure are spot on.

I'm eagerly awaiting this model's release. Fantastic work!

<JOTD>Jedi Hunter
07-05-2003, 12:36 AM
I fully agree with the knowledgable Kaia. You've done much more then even requested. You've extended the line of art when it comes to modeling. All of your models so far look just like their real counterparts. Well done Kevin.

The Cheat
07-05-2003, 02:12 AM
yeah those faces look amazingly accurate just like his old ben model, great job kevin

Killer_2000
07-05-2003, 06:12 AM
That EP2 Obi Wan looks, good :D

KevinCoyle
07-05-2003, 02:23 PM
Thank you for the kind words and helpful pointers everyone. I have an update on the model. I imported a few existing jedi knight models for comparison to help get the head porportions rights, I fixed that and thickened the neck a little.

To clear up some confusion, I'm using the same body model for episode 1 obi-wan and the episode 2 obi-wan, but that doesn't mean I won't make the necessary adjustments to the model for Episode 2. by "Ep1/Ep2 body" I meant I wouldn't be starting from scratch for the episode 2 body, that would be silly since they're basically the same.

Note, The picture looks a little funny where the neck meets the torso, I'm waiting to fix that for when I attach the head to the body

Obiwan body render 2 (http://www.babylonius.com/invasion/images/ep1obibody2.jpg)

Chewie Bakker
07-05-2003, 03:32 PM
I think Darth Vader said it best: Impressive. Most impressive.

Keep up the good work. This project is one of of a select few that keeps my JK2 CD sitting on my desk.

:D

:gben: The Force will be with you, always.

<JOTD>Jedi Hunter
07-05-2003, 04:06 PM
Very well done Kevin. That looks so much better. I have a question for you. Regarding do Old bens body, will you include an unrobed version? I don't think anyone's thought of that before. I mean, at least for an old ben. I think it would be cool. Or maybe even put an extra model in the pack. Like old bens head on ep 2 bens body. Giving him his old features, but with his prequel clothing. That would also be nice. Just some added suggestions, no need to take them seriously.

RaSiN_HeCk
07-06-2003, 05:58 AM
there is an unrobed version with the previously released Old Ben, but he doesn't have the classic Jedi tunic. Then again, Ben Kenobi never wore the classic tan Jedi tunic in the Star Wars Triolgy.

<JOTD>Jedi Hunter
07-06-2003, 01:13 PM
Well there were reasons for that. And I was merely suggesting alternative ways of making original models.

KaiaSowapit
07-06-2003, 01:29 PM
I believe RaSiN_HeCk was simply trying to point out Kevin had released Old Ben without robes before, that's all. No reason to get defensive or hostile.

Dante Alastor
07-16-2003, 06:07 PM
any new updates kevin?

im dying to see Obi-Wan from Ep2 in play!

frendon
07-16-2003, 07:32 PM
Kevin are you going to use shaders to give that spiky look to the hair as you did with the anakin model? That would be great, looks good BTW as all of your models.

keestuijp
09-14-2003, 01:00 PM
any news on the obi-wan models..??? let's keep this thread alive

CraZy_B
09-14-2003, 04:16 PM
Kevin will hopefully post updates in one of his treads. No matter which one.

keestuijp
09-19-2003, 02:27 PM
~we want obi we want obi - since JA is out... any news

Miko Reglia
09-20-2003, 12:44 AM
ok, one rule in life on the forums is to be quiet and stop being annoying towards the modelers.

kevin is back and he is working on both anakin and obi-wan, so i hope your happy...

KevinCoyle
09-21-2003, 05:39 AM
I'm going to finish up the obi-wan pack right after Anakin, I was wondering what you guys might think of this idea.

I just got a model of myself I made a while ago into the customizable SP set for Jedi Academy. Since I figured out how to do this I'm thinking it might be cool to release the obi-wan pack as a Customizable set. since custom characters work in MP, You would get Ep1, Ep2, Ep3 and Ep4 heads to choose from as well as the different bodys, so if for some reason you wanted too, you could use the Ep2 head with Old ben's full length robes for variation or have old ben wear the prequal outfit. This will also make it easier to pick robed versions, unrobed and hooded, it would be much more convenient then clogging up your model select screen with 16 icons of obi-wan. What do you think?

Eldritch
09-21-2003, 06:10 AM
Sounds like a great idea to me. I'm all for it.

keestuijp
09-21-2003, 11:45 AM
yeah sounds great... but I play mostly singleplayer, so could you release SP versions too??? i ve tried replacing a few sp models but it 's not working out allright...not yet...

sorry for bad english

CraZy_B
09-21-2003, 12:57 PM
Great idea.:D I bet modelers will be releasing much stuff this way. I hope to see your work soon BTW

Chewie Bakker
09-22-2003, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by KevinCoyle
I'm going to finish up the obi-wan pack right after Anakin, I was wondering what you guys might think of this idea.

I just got a model of myself I made a while ago into the customizable SP set for Jedi Academy. Since I figured out how to do this I'm thinking it might be cool to release the obi-wan pack as a Customizable set. since custom characters work in MP, You would get Ep1, Ep2, Ep3 and Ep4 heads to choose from as well as the different bodys, so if for some reason you wanted too, you could use the Ep2 head with Old ben's full length robes for variation or have old ben wear the prequal outfit. This will also make it easier to pick robed versions, unrobed and hooded, it would be much more convenient then clogging up your model select screen with 16 icons of obi-wan. What do you think?

Sounds cool indeed. ^_^

Look forward to it. ;)

:gben: The Force will be with you, always.

defalc
09-22-2003, 12:22 PM
Very cool. :)
And did I see you say Ep3 as well? Rock on! :)

CraZy_B
09-22-2003, 04:37 PM
I didn't even notice that until you said. Great news. Good luck!

lonepadawan
09-27-2003, 03:47 PM
One small question..

If you made this a customizable model, would you have to add "Obi-Wan" as a new species or could you add his heads,bodies and legs into the human male selector? I'd love to play as Jaden with a prequal jedi costume...

And while were at it, since you managed to get yourself into game, a small tutorial? :)

Miko Reglia
09-27-2003, 05:23 PM
you wont be able to use a human male head with the obi wan torso if thats what your asking.

its becasue the human male model is completely different from kevincoyles obi wan model, and you cant mix and match between 1 model and the other.

The Cheat
09-27-2003, 07:37 PM
yea the only reason some of the torsos look rather different is because of different surfaces on the model i guess, which adds some variety but i cant wait for people to add more skins for these models

Bowas5
10-29-2003, 03:40 PM
any updates!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mex
10-29-2003, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by Bowas5
any updates!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please delete your posts, we know that you want the model but posting five times in a row is outrageous.


I'm just glad your alive and kicking Kev!

[JKZ]_Yun
10-29-2003, 06:11 PM
man this is like this model Tercero-Anakin Model (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83174&perpage=40&pagenumber=1) and many other good models :(

Bowas5
10-29-2003, 06:47 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Michaelmexp
[B]Please delete your posts, we know that you want the model but posting five times in a row is outrageous.


I'm sorry, I only made one thread something most have gotten very wrong. It was just four times in a row.

mariners2001
10-29-2003, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by [JKZ]_Yun
man this is like this model Tercero-Anakin Model (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83174&perpage=40&pagenumber=1) and many other good models :(

ugh...i hope not....i have no clue why popular characters like anakin/obi-wan always take so long. i hope we can get an update soon..i now it sounds greedy but i really want these models!

The Cheat
10-29-2003, 10:33 PM
i dont think it can be as bad as kman's plo koon lol

DarkLord60
10-29-2003, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by The Cheat
i dont think it can be as bad as kman's plo koon lol

something tells me that will becoming soon.

Teenwolf
11-15-2003, 11:47 PM
Kevin that sounds like a good idea. But it has me worried because i have a feeling that if you do that you wont make one for jk2. Which is the better of the two games. Weve needed an obi wan ep 2 model for sooooooooo long.

DarkLord60
11-15-2003, 11:50 PM
AaronSmith is working on an episode 2 obi for AOTCTC and it looks good so far

CaladienJedi
11-16-2003, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by DarkLord60
AaronSmith is working on an episode 2 obi for AOTCTC and it looks good so far
But dont all his models look good?

I cant wait to see how your obi is doing kevin. Your models are great!

*Hopes to see updates soon :D*

Chewie Bakker
11-16-2003, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by Teenwolf
Kevin that sounds like a good idea. But it has me worried because i have a feeling that if you do that you wont make one for jk2. Which is the better of the two games. Weve needed an obi wan ep 2 model for sooooooooo long.

I agree with Teenwolf there. JK2 still is a cool game and it's in need of a funky Ep2 Obi-Wan model (I think, DarkLord60 just mentioned that someone's in the process of making one).

There's still heaps of interest in this project. Any updates? Please?

:gben: The Force will be with you, always.

DarkLord60
11-16-2003, 03:18 AM
I would like to see that anakin done first. Why is it the most popular models are never made or never make it out.

CaladienJedi
11-16-2003, 03:19 AM
Im quite addicted to jka. Now that the new patch is out, its much better.

Personally, I like the idea of having different heads to choose from. Its a good idea.

Yea I agree. Take plokoon for instance, awesome model. But hasnt been released. I know kevin has been busy lately, working on his game, and tweaking anakin. So hopefully we can see a new update soon :)

DarkLord60
11-16-2003, 04:41 AM
As am I. I love it its the way it should have been first time.

DarkLord60
11-16-2003, 04:42 AM
I hate double post.

Teenwolf
11-16-2003, 07:23 AM
Dark lord!
Is there a place were i can see the obi wan in process?


And please kevin dont forget about jk2! Please!

DarkLord60
11-16-2003, 03:46 PM
soon we will be posting pics up at AOTCTC (http://www.aotctc.com) so just go to our forums at http://www.aotctc.com/forums/index.php

Teenwolf
11-17-2003, 09:15 PM
Its not very good!
This one kevin is makin is far better. The on you guys are makin has a small head and reallllly dark eye brows, pointy nose, ........it just doesnt llook like obi wan!



Again kevin please make for JKO!!!!!!!! Please!!!!!!!!!!!!

Miko Reglia
11-17-2003, 10:45 PM
hey man, you could at least be more considerate than that, cause aaron is working his ass off with that model, trying to make it look good for you and everyone...its better to have a model being made rather than waiting on a model without any updates in a really really long time. plus aaron's a good modeler, he just needs someone to skin it, and thats happening, so just be happy that your getting an episode 2 obi wan either way!

Teenwolf
11-17-2003, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by Zaknafein
hey man, you could at least be more considerate than that, cause aaron is working his ass off with that model, trying to make it look good for you and everyone...its better to have a model being made rather than waiting on a model without any updates in a really really long time. plus aaron's a good modeler, he just needs someone to skin it, and thats happening, so just be happy that your getting an episode 2 obi wan either way!

Constructive critisism. Note i did not just say it was not VERY good, i pointed out what parts i did not like.
Yes he may very well be a great modeler but noones perfect thus i gave my opinion to try and help him get it to the point were its close as it can be.

Please dont follow me around in forums and yell at me. Its a real pain.

Again keven JK2! Pease!

DarkLord60
11-17-2003, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Teenwolf
Its not very good!
This one kevin is makin is far better. The on you guys are makin has a small head and reallllly dark eye brows, pointy nose, ........it just doesnt llook like obi wan!



Again kevin please make for JKO!!!!!!!! Please!!!!!!!!!!!!

did you even see our screens its a WIP. Obi wan is being reskinned as we speak due to popular demand. That was a bit rude of you and a bit harsh. That was not constructive criticism.

Teenwolf
11-18-2003, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by DarkLord60
did you even see our screens its a WIP. Obi wan is being reskinned as we speak due to popular demand. That was a bit rude of you and a bit harsh. That was not constructive criticism.


By all means define constructive critisism!!!

Yes im glad to hear it is gettin reskinned. Because i did see the pics and its not VERY good. Emphisis on very cause that means better than good. So what im sayin is its not very good but it is good. I dont think what i wrote was very rude or confusing.

DarkLord60
11-18-2003, 12:37 AM
Well I wasnt crazy about the skin either but at AOTCTC we go for the best so we are reskinning them. Aaron makes very good models look at our saesee tinn or eeth koth, I also think you could have said it in a kinder why. Well any way I don't want a flame war so lets get back on topic shall we.

Teenwolf
11-22-2003, 05:03 AM
Bump!

danoz_g700
11-23-2003, 08:37 PM
Teenwolf.....Once you can Model as well as these guys,Then you have the right talk smack on the models...But i dont see you making one and Dark Lord is right you could have said it in a Much nicer way.I love both models but if Kevin chooses to make this into a JKA model then so be it. Dont go begging to him to make it for jk2.This model is Awesome and i cant wait till it comes out.But until then just hold the Any updates posts.....i dont get it People are posting stuff like "any updates?" well look at the forums people do you see any???...no he is a person just like the rest of us and making a model is hard work especially what kevin is attempting.Why is he doing this? Because it is gonna make the model More enjoyable for WHO? You people...i mean when he gets progress done he will post it simple as that..do you think by going Bump..Or AnyUpdates its gonna magically make Update pictures be posted all of the sudden? Im sorry,i am not trying to start a flame thread or anything but Cmon people... Give em him a break..Just dont focus on these models all the time and check EVERY DAY then when there has not been somthin posted in 2 days go ANy Updates....let me put it this way....When you keep checking on a model like this...the time is gona pass just as if you were waiting and watching a pot of water to boil....it takes forever right..but if you walk away and go do somthing else before you know it it is boiling. Just go play the game and forget about the model time will pass alot quicker.

Danoz_g700

Miko Reglia
11-24-2003, 02:58 AM
thank you! this guy is awsome...great post danoz...

lets just wait for kevin to post guys, as you know hes done it in the past and hes a really busy man, remember that you want a model that is relaly really good, then you have to have patience for it, cause it takes a while...

kevin, wherever you are, i hope your havin good times with whatever your doin:cool:

Teenwolf
11-24-2003, 03:37 AM
Originally posted by danoz_g700
Teenwolf.....Once you can Model as well as these guys,Then you have the right talk smack on the models...But i dont see you making one and Dark Lord is right you could have said it in a Much nicer way.I love both models but if Kevin chooses to make this into a JKA model then so be it. Dont go begging to him to make it for jk2.This model is Awesome and i cant wait till it comes out.But until then just hold the Any updates posts.....i dont get it People are posting stuff like "any updates?" well look at the forums people do you see any???...no he is a person just like the rest of us and making a model is hard work especially what kevin is attempting.Why is he doing this? Because it is gonna make the model More enjoyable for WHO? You people...i mean when he gets progress done he will post it simple as that..do you think by going Bump..Or AnyUpdates its gonna magically make Update pictures be posted all of the sudden? Im sorry,i am not trying to start a flame thread or anything but Cmon people... Give em him a break..Just dont focus on these models all the time and check EVERY DAY then when there has not been somthin posted in 2 days go ANy Updates....let me put it this way....When you keep checking on a model like this...the time is gona pass just as if you were waiting and watching a pot of water to boil....it takes forever right..but if you walk away and go do somthing else before you know it it is boiling. Just go play the game and forget about the model time will pass alot quicker.

Danoz_g700
1. USE PARAGRAPHS!
2. Squall wip (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116950) Cough owned cough.
3. I dont need to know how to do modeling to have an oppinion on it. Although i do lil,unimformed poster.
And wtf is talkin smack? Are you like 4?
4.That lil dissagrement is over, thanks for tryin to bring it back.
5.I owe it to my fellow JK2 players to ASK him to consider it. Noone is begging.

CaladienJedi
11-24-2003, 07:07 PM
Not to get off topic EVEN MORE. But... you say JK2 please everytime you post IN EVERY MODEL THREAD. Except for this one time.

Now the way I see it. If the author wants it to be JA. It's gonna be JA. Just buy the damn game, its not bad at all. Its way better than jk2, and friggan download all the models you want.

Teenwolf
11-24-2003, 07:22 PM
Its only better than jk2 in your oppinion. I dont like games that make saber (the most badassest of all weaponmary) damage as if you are getting hit with a wiffle ball bat.
Can we stop talkin about which game is better in our personal oppinions? It doesnt belong here and you shouldnt have even brought cause this is a thread about an obi wan model pack, and i was not talkin to you in the first place.

Stop tryin to flame me your all verbaly owned!

DarkLord60
11-24-2003, 11:26 PM
The conclusion was between Teenwolf and I was that ours needed work and I agreee so its settled but thank you for supporting me. Anyway I really hope to hear from Kevin soon.

danoz_g700
11-25-2003, 03:32 AM
And so do i...i wonder where he is...hmph.Oh well i just got my JkA up and running again so now i am ready for these models to be Realease.

Atreyu.....off of the Never ending story movies..heh....man just one Question(not starting flame i am totally calm)
Why do you think you are better than everyone else? just wondering.......its kind of.. ..Childish."You are all verbaly owned".......um....ok :rolleyes:

Danoz_g700
*shakes head*

Teenwolf
11-25-2003, 06:49 AM
Thanks for goin off topic again.

To answer your silly lil question, I dont. I merely was completely right in the situation. I think i handled it very well. Considering 3 people started to flame me for giving a harsh oppinion on a MODEL (hmmm kinda like what your doin to me, i wonder......).

Can i ask you a few ?s?
Good....Were in this (verbally owned) does it imply that i think i am beter than everyone else?
How is sayin i act childish and pompus (means arrogant) not tryin to flame me. Define flame for me.

Now that thats done flame me again ill report you. I dont like checkin in the thread thinkin there is an update only to see its some internet person tryin to hurt my feelings.

CaladienJedi
11-25-2003, 11:13 AM
"DONT FORGET JK2 PLEASE KEVIN!!!!!!!!!!" "You have been verbally owned" "lil"

Very childish.

Kevin Post some Pics!!!! I havent seen any new ones for a long time :(

Teenwolf
11-26-2003, 04:51 AM
Im not following you cal................

Hell post pics when he works on it. He said earlier hes working on anakin first. Anakin isnt out yet so there is no new pics yet (my logic ne ways).

Mex
12-03-2003, 05:02 PM
Dear, dear, dear, what do we have here? Flames, off-topic posting and no updates in weeks? Well if Kevin wants to continue with this model he can create a new thread.

*Runs off to get moderator*

DarkLord60
12-03-2003, 10:57 PM
No one has even posted here in a while bud.

CaladienJedi
12-03-2003, 11:46 PM
True. Those posts are at least a week - 2 weeks old.

Teenwolf
12-14-2003, 07:14 AM
Bump!


Come on kev youve allmost reached the finish line!

Teenwolf
12-28-2003, 07:29 AM
I hope all of kevins scheduel clears up now thats its after the holidays. And hes done his anakin so this is next!!!!

I can wait but not for long......LOL

CaladienJedi
12-28-2003, 02:46 PM
I talked to kevin 2 days ago and he told me he wont be back until tuesday.

He said once he gets back he is going to finish anakin.

I didnt ask him about obiwan though.

Teenwolf
12-29-2003, 04:30 AM
WOOOOHHHHH!

Anakin isnt done?????

It awesome right now.

danoz_g700
01-18-2004, 11:01 PM
Man look at this post...its almost been a whole month later and still no posts.....dizam thats a long time lol the month of jan just flew by.

well just throwin in a post cause i am bored.

Danoz_g700

DarkLord60
01-19-2004, 09:12 PM
Don't worry he is working on Obi-Wan with us at AOTCTC (http://www.aotctc.com)

SuPa
02-02-2004, 10:54 PM
phew thought it had died i cant wait for this model to come out.


SuPa

-=DarkZero=-
02-05-2004, 03:28 AM
(off topic)

Hey dark lord, you got Kevin working with the AOTC mod too? Wow, man, you guys are sucking up the liffffe.
I also heard you have unique 1, and he offered me a position there to help him out in the code and crap,so like, is there any available positions? (Not exactly saying I'll take it or not, because it draws time from my game>_>, but theres a possibility)

(Does anyone know if Darth Kittys around, I really want to get my hands on his snake, and pliskin models)

Miko Reglia
02-06-2004, 12:28 AM
nah i havent seen darth kitty around for a while...

also i havent seen kevin for a while too...darklord are you keeping in close contact with him?

i think he said he was working on some big project...im not sure:(

Spiffy_G
02-06-2004, 05:35 AM
Sweet, cant wait for this model to come out. Its going to be awsome. Can anyone give me the links to the pics of it (beta version)? I click on them, and I cannot seem to be able to open them.

DarkLord60
02-07-2004, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by Zaknafein
nah i havent seen darth kitty around for a while...

also i havent seen kevin for a while too...darklord are you keeping in close contact with him?

i think he said he was working on some big project...im not sure:(

Hes gone missing I have not seen him in awhile.

Miko Reglia
02-08-2004, 08:28 AM
damn that really sucks...:(

Spiffy_G
02-23-2004, 09:26 PM
So, whats goin on with the skin? Any updates? Is it ready?

Miko Reglia
02-23-2004, 11:16 PM
patience young one...

t3rr0r
02-23-2004, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Zaknafein
patience young one...
his profile says he's 6-7 years older than you. ;)

Spiffy_G
03-01-2004, 09:21 PM
Haha, true. So hows everyone hangin? Its been kinda boring around here.

The Cheat
03-01-2004, 11:32 PM
thats how it is with kevin, he only posts about once in a blue moon, but when he does it is awesome

ronbrothers
03-02-2004, 01:01 AM
Sigh ... I remember when this thread was about a Complete Obi-wan Pack. :rolleyes:

Miko Reglia
03-02-2004, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by t3rr0r
his profile says he's 6-7 years older than you. ;)

lol

well im older in the mind....:D

and yeah...kevin does come back once in a while...and gets us all excited, then leaves again...

i guess its just how the world goes round...

Darius1050
03-03-2004, 10:06 PM
Hey Kevin, Are u going to make it so u can extract or delete certain obi-wan models... u know put them in seperate pk3s

LukeKatarn
03-06-2004, 09:14 PM
When will this model be finished? I am realy aexited I cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D !!!!!!!!!!:D !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

Miko Reglia
03-07-2004, 03:03 AM
dude...Kevin hasn't been around in a real long time, its going to take a while for him to finish it, unless he comes back soon...

I bet he's off doing other projects right now...

Spiffy_G
03-12-2004, 07:43 PM
Hey Kevin, you back? Or any updates on Obi Wan?

Spiffy_G
04-24-2004, 11:28 PM
anyone there? kevin are you there? am I all alone?

ronbrothers
04-25-2004, 06:27 AM
Leave it alone, Spffy_G. Trust me, it doesn't make Kevin return any quicker ...

Mex
04-25-2004, 02:16 PM
Kevin is like this.. Very unreliable. He's already gone about three times before and it takes months for him to get back. So let this thread drop dead. He'll revive it in a few months.

[FotF]Maddog
04-25-2004, 06:04 PM
Some people fail to realize that making mods and models for our favorite games isnt their job they do it for fun in their spare time. So maybe we could all be patient and just let things come as they may with out bashing some of the better modelers who more then likely have lives (JOB FAMILY) that are more important then cranking out models for people who are selfish and can only think of themselves.
:mad: Dog

Cazor
04-25-2004, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by [FotF]Maddog
Some people fail to realize that making mods and models for our favorite games isnt their job they do it for fun in their spare time. So maybe we could all be patient and just let things come as they may with out bashing some of the better modelers who more then likely have lives (JOB FAMILY) that are more important then cranking out models for people who are selfish and can only think of themselves.
:mad: Dog

that is so true. I wish i could just punch some people's teeth in who fill threads with "omg when will it be released?"(and many other impatient comments) or what gets me the worst is when people start talking about what model people should do next, before they even comment on the model being showcased, if they do it at all. But it's not like anyone is going to listen to us. everyone and their dog asks "when will it be released?" way too much on these forums.

Pontus90
05-30-2004, 04:46 PM
Cant understand why it says couldnt find page when i click on the links kevin posted




hmmm.....:bossk:

Miko Reglia
05-30-2004, 09:54 PM
Probably because he took them down...:rolleyes:

Pontus90
05-31-2004, 07:30 AM
:rolleyes: DOH!!!! i wanna see em =):Bossk:

Chewie Bakker
08-02-2004, 06:47 AM
Heya KevinCoyle,

I'm asking because I'm sincerely interested in this Obi-Wan Pack project of yours.

Is there any progress? How goes the plan to make the customizable SP set?

Hope you're in good health. That's all from me.

Arigatou.

:gben: The Force will be with you, always.

LightNinja
08-02-2004, 07:07 AM
who knows, maybe kevin surprise us like he did with anakin (he taked much time to release it), so just wait hehe

X-Viper
08-10-2004, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by KevinCoyle
To answer Crowy's question, I hope to keep modeling for Jedi Academy, that games sounds like it's going to be really cool. I just hope they still support 3D max 4 for the Jedi Academy editing tools or there's some other way to get it in game from max 4

Sounds great :D
any comments about what ur next model is going to be? :p

fullmetal
08-12-2004, 12:15 PM
i cant see all these images !!:c3po: damn !! i wanna see it

test
09-23-2004, 12:42 AM
Is there any news on Kevin's progress on this project? :confused:

LightNinja
09-23-2004, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by test
Is there any news on Kevin's progress on this project? :confused:
is difficult to wait, but you have to wait

test
09-23-2004, 07:00 PM
Waiting is fine, it's not knowing if the project is still being worked on or not that drives me insane.

SiThLoRd><1000
10-10-2004, 02:21 PM
For all you nay sayers, I have but two words... C 'mon! C'mon!