Zelda game for JKII SP

[shukrallah]

Matt-Liell and i are going to start making a zelda game for JKII SP, we dont know a lot about the story, but we will figure that out. what we do know is that we will need people to make models and maps, we will need a lot of models. right now we are going to use Matt-Liell's Link model when he finishes it, but we still need Ganondorf (form Ocarina of Time, the man, not Ganon, the monster) we also will need princess Zelda (obviously because she is in every Zelda game) i dont know about any other characters right now.

we will use Link from Matt-Liell and Ganondorf, from someone whoever will make it.

another thing, is it legal to make a Zelda game because its a trademark and copyrighted by nintendo?

[Matt-Liell]

I've just started an official recruiting thread for us Lukey!
Go here. (http://lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=94369)

[shukrallah]

cool, now we need a good story line, if Ganondorf could come back that would be awesome!

anyone have any suggestions?

[Clemme w/Stick]

Cool idea ya got there guys! Keep us up to date, and I'd really like to be one of the Alpha/Beta testers...:D!

Just keep us posted!

-Clemme

[Loki GM]

well if I knew anything about modeling id help you but I dont

I used to make some maps but there where to many things that the people never told you how to do or they where unclear saying it so I just gave up :(

[nova_wolf]

Im normally good at the whole storylining.

Bit out of touch on my Zelda lore, by if someone could suggest a good resource, I'll have a crack at that side of things...

[Matt-Liell]

Originally posted by nova_wolf
Im normally good at the whole storylining.

Bit out of touch on my Zelda lore, by if someone could suggest a good resource, I'll have a crack at that side of things...


www.zelda.com or www.nintendo.com :D

[Kstar__2]

i probably could find out how to model in bryce, or in anim8tor, so i could make a model (i'll have to learn it first) but i don't know if i can get it in-game, so i'll need some help with it:)

[shukrallah]

but what i want to know before we start is if its legal, if not nintendo could sue us! i dont want that to happen, nintendo said sometging like all characters and there likness are copyrighted by nintendo, so should we be doing this?
if it is illegal, im out...... im not ganna get sued or something

[nova_wolf]

Originally posted by lukeskywalker1
but what i want to know before we start is if its legal, if not nintendo could sue us! i dont want that to happen, nintendo said sometging like all characters and there likness are copyrighted by nintendo, so should we be doing this?
if it is illegal, im out...... im not ganna get sued or something

I seem to have a rapor with them, I'll see what I can find out on that score... ;)



Copy of e-mail sent not 2 mins ago (hope - else tomorrow morning...)

Hi. My name is Jon Adamson, and I am writing to you with respect to a potential legal matter which has arisen as a result of a planned modification for Jedi Knight II on the PC.

A group of us were hoping to use the JKII engine to create a sort of first person experience for the Zelda continum, or lock the perspective to third person and do it... But thats besides the point.

We just wish to check whether we are able to do so without infringing copyrights, offending or general toe stepping.

We did not see a problem with it, as it is a format you do not use for this product, and would not be a direct attempt to emulate any previous Zelda series title. it may only become a set of models, skins and levels to emulate combat against Ganondorf rather than a full adventure, but we still wouild like your 'blessing' as it were.

Thank you for you time.

[shukrallah]

so did u send that email to nintendo? well i guess we should just wait and see...... anyways nintendo supports JKII, they have the game for there system, it was just released a month or two ago anyways.

but i really dont think anyone wants to get sued, so lets be careful.


umm..... what is there email address?

[RpTheHotrod]

Lukeskywalker1, you're inbox is full. Please empty it.

J0k3r simply forgot to leave me the IP, That's why I didn't make it. He apologized. Thanks though ;)

[Seph]

umm I have a clue of how ganondorf could come back, I just Legend of Zelda Oracal of the Ages. two witches preform many sacrafices to a pit witch suposedly goes to where Ganondorf went when he died. They sacrafice a hundred people and ganondorf comes out of the pit and kill the witches.

[shukrallah]

ganon didnt kill them, the wiches (twinrova) were going to offer zelda as a sacrifice to bring ganon back, but link went to save her, and had to fight twinrova, when they almost died, they said they didnt have enough energy to offer zelda as a sacrifice, so they offered themselves, then link had to fight ganon, but that wasnt the same link, if u remember zelda didnt know who he was... so it couldnt have been the same guy.....

well still waiting on that email...... have u heard anything nova_wolf?

[git_sum_stuka]

I forgot what SP means so can anyone tell me plz?

[Matt-Liell]

Originally posted by git_sum_stuka
I forgot what SP means so can anyone tell me plz?

Lol its an abrieviation for Single Player.

[Seph]

weird my game was different. maby it had to do with that stupid piece of junk game shark

[shukrallah]

did u play both ages and seasons, when u beat one they give u a password, then u type it in the next game (doesnt matter which order u play them in) then u start where u left off, and at the end of that game u fight ganon.

i didnt use a game shark....... i dont know........

[Seph]

you see I downloaded a code and the code had a virus thingy on it and it just skrewed up and blew up in my face

[Eldritch]

This is uber-ambitious, guys. Hope you have the stamina for such a huge amount of work.

[shukrallah]

its not going to be a whole lot, just a few cutscenes, 6-8 new models, right now Link, Ganondorf, Zelda (Main Ones) then the othjer npcs that u fight, they can be whatever the modeler wants as long as its not something crazy, nothing like that...... then 1-3 levels, 1-2 middle bosses, then the fight with ganondorf, its not that hard, i dont think.....

oh yeah new weapons i have some idea about that,
lets say thermal detonaters are the bombs, all u will need to do is change the way they look, and maybey the sound, then for the bow and arrow remake the wookie bowcaster, its the closest thing to a bow, so it should work, but link might hold it sideways.

***ill PM nova_wolf about that email***

[nova_wolf]

Originally posted by lukeskywalker1
***ill PM nova_wolf about that email***

From past experience, your gonna need to give them time - you mustv realise the amount of useless pap people mail them, even though if they took the time to look, they would realise the FAQ has dealt with it already.

Give it till next Monday tops, then we'll try a little something else...

[Matt-Liell]

Originally posted by lukeskywalker1

oh yeah new weapons i have some idea about that,
lets say thermal detonaters are the bombs, all u will need to do is change the way they look, and maybey the sound, then for the bow and arrow remake the wookie bowcaster, its the closest thing to a bow, so it should work, but link might hold it sideways.



Brodin and I are working on those, we have the master sword and Kokori sword almost done

[nova_wolf]

Think the phrase I am looking for is **** (Mods - I bleeped it out for you :) )

Read it and weep guys!

Message(#6851-000108-2736\1082736)

Hello,

We appreciate your interest in Nintendo and our highly acclaimed line of video game products. To us, it's a sign of recognition and your vote of confidence in the Nintendo name.

While we appreciate your request, we regret that we are unable to provide support or grant a license for use of our trademarks and copyrights. Nintendo is a registered trademark of Nintendo of America Inc. In addition, Nintendo owns valid U.S. trademarks and copyrights for all of our game titles, characters and game audiovisual works. To protect our rights, we must exercise very close quality control over their use. Because we receive so many requests such as yours, we cannot accommodate them all, however deserving the cause.


Sincerely,

Nintendo of America Inc.
J.J. Craig McClure

I wouldn't mind, but the message does not sound like a personal response as such. Like a generic letter to all who may ask similar stuff.

Basically, it sucks.
the options open to us now are;

1) We clasp hands behind backs and walk off whistling...
2) We sod that and do it on the sly...

I have to say that given the project not POSSIBLY being a threat to the Zelda series, as long as it is freeware, all credits and thanks listed, we just run with it until they try and bend us over a desk....

Any objections?

[Seph]

Guys don't do it behind their backs, I tried the same with capcom and they sent me a warning that if I didn't get rid of the file I would be sued.

[shukrallah]

Originally posted by Seph
Guys don't do it behind their backs, I tried the same with capcom and they sent me a warning that if I didn't get rid of the file I would be sued.


thats what im afraid of.......no one wants to be sued, and if they sue they will win because they are trademarks......this isnt right....

nova_wolf i bet ur right that they send the same email to everyone who asks that, there was this guy on the web somewhere, who said he tried asking about the guy who made the zelda music and they said they didnt have any info on him, but they were happy that he was enthusiasitc about the dude.... that sounds kind of like what they wrote.....

Message(#6851-000108-2736\1082736)

what is this????? sounds like they do send the same email to everyone....oh man....:(

[shukrallah]

Sorry guys but unless we can get Nintendo to change their minds, i guess im out....... :( :( :mad: sorry about the whole thing....

[Seph]

nintendo's email is nintendo@noa.nintendo.com

[Seph]

Hello,

I would like to know if we could make a jedi outcast legend of zelda mod without you suing us. We wouldn't make money off of it we just would like to have more Zelda in our lives and on our computers. We would just to set it up for a free download. We apreacieate your time. We would also apreaciate it if you would give us permissoin to do this project. We would include your name in the game. y friends can tell it's going to be a big hit!

-Ethan Scott Lautenschlager

[shukrallah]

thanks a lot dude!!! for sending the email, hey at least we will know if they are sending the same email to everyone who writes them right? :D

other emails for nintendo:
(i found them in a nintendo power magazine)

arena@nintendo.com

classified@nintendo.com

epic@nintendo.com

noapulse@nintendo.com

nowplaying@nintendo.com

pokecenter@nintendo.com

poweron@nintendo.com

also nintendo's address, i would not recommend sending them a letter though!!!!!!!


Nintendo Power
PO Box 97033
Redmond, WA 98073-9733

i dont think we will get anywhere though, but ill wait and see......

thanks seph, and nova_wolf

-lukeskywalker1

[nova_wolf]

Not a problem guys! :)

Any chance to merge to of the greatest sword wielding heros of might and magic from the gaming continum should be given full support.

[Seph]

Message(#6851-000108-5037\1085037)

Hi!

We appreciate your interest in Nintendo and our highly acclaimed line of video game products. To us, it's a sign of recognition and your vote of confidence in the Nintendo name.

While we appreciate your request, we regret that we are unable to provide support or grant a license for use of our trademarks and copyrights. Nintendo is a registered trademark of Nintendo of America Inc. In addition, Nintendo owns valid U.S. trademarks and copyrights for all of our game titles, characters and game audiovisual works. To protect our rights, we must exercise very close quality control over their use. Because we receive so many requests such as yours, we cannot accommodate them all, however deserving the cause.


Nintendo of America Inc.
R.M. Rickets
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I also took a suray. mabey it'll help

[shukrallah]

Your kidding its the same exact thing, just a different guys name at the bottom, and a different number, are they even reading our mail?????:mad:

looks like its over, we can t make a legend of zelda mod without being illegal....:(

[Kstar__2]

luke, think creative, all you have to do is change the names and they won't be able to sue you;)

[shukrallah]

yeah but it wont be zelda, i guess we could just make a game from scratch (original idea, new characters, new models, new enemies) but not as many people would download it as they would zelda.....

[Seph]

that's right. make new chericters new name. and they can't say you copied thier Legend of Zelda;)

[nova_wolf]

I got it - whe could do a version where by its a descsendant of Link, say... oh... about 200 years?

A female descendant.

New royal family - a prince in charge.

And have disciples of the long time defeated Ganondorf raising all kinds of hell - in particular, him ultimately!

That way, any appearnaces Link/Zelda/Ganondorf make will all be in cutscenes only and merely as characters in flash backs. Link could be our characters guardian advising from time to time...

Can defeat the cult JUST as they are raising him, so we see him get sucked back in. Then we can ace off against the head honcho, himself a descednat of Ganondorf (dont ask, we'll figure that bit later... ;) )

Sound a plan?

[shukrallah]

it sounds good but its the characters that are copyrighted and the name "Zelda" thats the problem. if we just put link in for a second it will be violating copyright laws, we could go with everything, but we just cant use link, zelda or ganondorf, we would need new characters and a new name.

[Hellfire Jedi]

Do not name it Zelda if you want to get far...

[Mex]

Nintendo can't be assed to write e-mails. How stupid are they?