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HiveRougie
03-14-2003, 07:39 PM
I personally have no qualms with this version at all. I heard there were issues with backstab/slash and dfa being too good, but that's what you get when you listen to Padawans all the time.

I actually 'tried' the latest version (1.4) and it was absolutely...horrible >_<
It felt like the whole game physics had been changed. This is not so far from the truth, as imho, version 1.4 has nerfed Jk2.
Not going to go into deep explanations for that decision other than 30 minutes of saying "Gah!" when I try to slash and my saber does some strange deflect-turny-swoosh thing.

After playing 1.2 for 3-4 months, I have to say. I wouldn't keep 1.4 if it was the last version on earth. Nerfed nerfed nerfed...GAH!

*Goes to take a skinny dip in magma to cleanse self of version 1.4*

Thx for your undivided attentions :rolleyes:

Emon
03-15-2003, 09:43 PM
Uh, alright, if you don't like 1.03 or 1.04, don't play them, or get some mods for the game that fix the problems...

1.03 also fixed some moderate SP bugs, which many of us are greatful for.

FatalStrike
03-17-2003, 05:00 PM
was the best.

Everything else was made to aid horrible players and those that wanted to pretend they were real Jedi.

HiveRougie
03-18-2003, 01:18 PM
It's hard trying to make 1.04 players see the light. But then, most wouldn't last 5 seconds on 1.02, so they should probably just stay where they are. With the n00bs. In 1.04 :p

Jeff 42
03-19-2003, 01:33 AM
Oh yeah, getting killed by a DFA when the lightsaber was in the ground was so great. :rolleyes:

Prime
03-19-2003, 10:35 AM
I loved 1.02 when the game first came out. IMO the only thing that really needed to be fixed was the DFA collision box (can't remember all the other bugs). Apart from that, everything else was good. I like that the blue absorb glow changed in later versions, but only because I didn't like having a constant glow around me.

The funny thing was, some people were complaing about everything being unbalanced mere days after the game was released. I mean, they didn't even try to learn how to counter stuff.

I don't mind 1.04 though, if only because it fixed the pull/backstab epidemic in 1.03. I could stand some more saber damage, however.

FatalStrike
03-20-2003, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Jeff 42
Oh yeah, getting killed by a DFA when the lightsaber was in the ground was so great. :rolleyes:

It is better then hacking at someone back only to be blocked time and time again. This is the buggy blocking system they created for crap players.

The sabers are weak as hell, which forces some admins to change damage. What's the result of this? Every server is running different settings.....yay!

Perhaps you like the fact that every problem was double fixed for no reason? Pull Backstab was a problem so lets nerf BOTH instead of one or the other......yay Lucas way to solve a problem!

Perhaps you enjoy the weak force powers, like the useless drain, or maybe the nerfed grip. Noobs tend to like weaker abilities so they can run around pretending to be a jedi for a longer period of time.

Prime
03-20-2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by FatalStrike
......yay Lucas way to solve a problem! I doubt Lucas had anything to do with nerfed Force powers :)

WarteX
03-20-2003, 05:23 PM
The heavy stance duels in 1.02 was horrible and even more odd looking than those in 1.04.

The good things about 1.02 was that medium stance (yellow) required abit more skill 2 use and that saber combat was better suited for ctf than 1.04.

The bad ting about 1.02 was the heavy stance duels which looked like crap and it was all about timing, it still is in 1.04 but not as much as in 1.02.

Im an FFA duel player and I prefer longer and cooler saber combats than easier frags in normal FFA or ctf.

If an expansion will b released, I hope raven make 2 different saber adaptions, 1 for duels and ffa, and 1 for CTF

Jeff 42
03-20-2003, 10:21 PM
Yeah, 1.04 saber combat is pretty lame, but as a gunner I'm not too bothered by that.

WarteX
03-21-2003, 04:06 AM
Yeah its abit lame sometimes, but its better than 1.02's saber combats

Most ppl use heavy(red) stance only, which makes 1.04 slightly better for duelers, bcoz u need more skill in heavy stance duels in 1.04.

NerfYoda
03-21-2003, 04:09 AM
IIRC there's a 1.02 centered community out there still. Check em out at http://committed.to/honour/. I believe they have their own clan league and academy.

Hekx
03-21-2003, 01:35 PM
I personally like 1.04.
If I want to do swinning backstabs, or lunges in mid-air, I usually use JediMod's cvars to change it. ;)

Prime
03-22-2003, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by Hkx Nx
I personally like 1.04. All things considered, I like 1.04 the best as well...

FatalStrike
03-25-2003, 11:15 AM
Most people say this about 1.04 - Saber duels look cool!

Yup all image and no substance. The players are slower, the stances are slower. The blocking is easy and the sabers are weak.

Someone above even whined that it was all about timing. Proof that 1.04 n00bed the game.

Prime
03-25-2003, 11:30 AM
I just play for fun, so 1.04 serves that purpose for me just as well as 1.02 did. I did pretty well on 1.02, and I do pretty well with 1.04. Some things have changed, but good players still beat bad players consistently. And isn't timing important in both 1.02 and 1.04? Players are affected equally by the rules, so what is the problem? Although I agree the saber should do more damage...

WarteX
03-26-2003, 09:18 AM
it's kinda sad, were sitting here arguing about how the game should b and raven doesnt seem 2 do anything about it.

Im glad that some1 is making quake4 (raven) but I hope 1 of their secret projects (there was 3 from the beginning, 1 of em was q4) is an expansion for jk2.

Tosh_UK
03-26-2003, 09:36 AM
I normally Go to where the numbers are... more play 1.4 so that's where ill be.

trouble is the game got past a bug list and got to a hate list. that's when they should of closed there ears to all the fanboys. When someone hates something its normally means its working as intended.. ok there are a few exceptions like Backstab (hehehe Love that move :p ) but when they fixed the problem they added others like reduced saber dmg. Kick well Kick is ok apart from the gayboy bind pull kickers. but as been said in other threads, they normally rely on there bind keys so much, that are a week arse player anyhow. instead of improving the game, they tried to keep every one happy and that was a shame. people that work on mods like promod I take my hats of to, as they try to do what Lucas overlooked.

anyways keep ya sabers up guys un gals or your blaster drawn if you prefer.

p.s also imo a lot of problems that players did not take the time to learn the game, and got upset with other players that did.

Prime
03-26-2003, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by WarteX
I hope 1 of their secret projects (there was 3 from the beginning, 1 of em was q4) is an expansion for jk2. A new Jedi Knight series project has already been announced, but whether it is an expansion or JO2 is not yet known, I do believe. I suspect it is the former, though.

Originally posted by Tosh_UK
trouble is the game got past a bug list and got to a hate list. that's when they should of closed there ears to all the fanboys...

p.s also imo a lot of problems that players did not take the time to learn the game, and got upset with other players that did.

Couldn't...agree...more.

HiveRougie
03-26-2003, 03:08 PM
Kick well Kick is ok apart from the gayboy bind pull kickers. but as been said in other threads, they normally rely on there bind keys so much, that are a week arse player anyhow.


True true..
But that's why duels are better =)

But to be on the safe side, it's often best to just make a bind saying "No kicking or throwing during duel" - It works for me.

Prime
03-27-2003, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by HiveRougie
But to be on the safe side, it's often best to just make a bind saying "No kicking or throwing during duel" - It works for me. Does it work?

Agen
03-31-2003, 05:28 PM
Course :) Unless it's the anonymous ignorant ******* who swears blindly that he can beat you then gets beat and tells everyone in the queue how much of a cheat you are :rolleyes: