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Niblem
03-18-2003, 05:13 AM
Hey all remember me? Or the clonetrooper for that matter, its been along time and I havent updated the little guy. Sorry to have let all of you down. But however it wasnt me bein lazy :P I lost my hard drive a while back, actually back in august of '02 ne'ways I found a way around all the problems and got a version of my model back. Sooo since its been soo long since the little guy hasn't seen any chance of feeling new again, I decided to re-vamp his look *also due to planetquakes' review.. ouch* but, behold I have reskined him and have remodeled about 70% of him, so he now looks alot more like the movie trooper. He's about 5500 poly's but he will include 3-4 LOD's and im gonna see if I can lower the amount neways.. (his head is full of them). I would also like to include sounds now.. So Im gonna have to get to that too. The only prob is that it is gonna be awhile. I have to redo all the hyarchy and the skeletal system :( but... I will be working on it as fast as I can. heres a image of the new model with the new skins :) :) :) Enjoy! :fett: http://www.bridge-masters.com/clonetrooper.jpg

ninja
03-18-2003, 07:04 AM
hey now thats lookin shweet :D

SettingShadow
03-18-2003, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by ninja
hey now thats lookin shweet :D

I like to call that an understatement (if its even a word...) :p

I'ts better than shweet, it's... it's... it's AWESOME! :)

Hekx
03-18-2003, 10:56 AM
Excellent.

I like the worndown armour look. :)

Padawan_7
03-18-2003, 01:31 PM
Wow, that looks great Niblem! :D

Do you plan on making a clonetrooper pilot (same armor - slightly different helmet)?

[JKZ]_Yun
03-18-2003, 01:40 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOW nice :D
Cool model :thmbup1:

bliv
03-18-2003, 03:32 PM
Are shiny armoured troopers going to be included as well? Fresh from Kamino style?

wannadie
03-18-2003, 06:03 PM
looks Kick A$$ man, the textures look cool.

Originally posted by bliv
Are shiny armoured troopers going to be included as well? Fresh from Kamino style?

yeah thats a good idea too.

Niblem
03-18-2003, 08:15 PM
Yeah I can include a shaded (shiny) trooper. Only the Commander (yellow) and plaing are in deathmatch, the red and blue are for Team. But I will make a shiny trooper, why not ? :) And yeah I was planning on making the clone pilot helmet. I'll have to find some refrence shots.. it wouldnt be that hard, just a little poly modding to the helmet :)

DarkLord60
03-18-2003, 09:24 PM
OMG!

ronbrothers
03-19-2003, 07:23 AM
I liked the original, but this is even better! I too hope there is a "shiny" version.

Niblem
03-19-2003, 09:01 AM
Ok, DAMN! pheew! Finished with that :P Hey I finished the pilots head :P Let me know what you all think.. Took awhile, heh just finished and its 6:00 am. I started at 3:50 pm yesterday. :P :fett:

I think it does justice! Cept the chin needs to be adjusted. Like i did in the other model. :D :D :D

Here the pic.. http://www.bridge-masters.com/pilot.jpg

SettingShadow
03-19-2003, 11:06 AM
Looks very very nice. But yea the chin needs a little adjustment... other than that it's perfect. :)

Padawan_7
03-19-2003, 12:59 PM
Yeap, looks good except for the chin! :D

Zippo85
03-19-2003, 01:54 PM
i have made a reskin of the old clonetrooper just because i think the skin looked as if it was in mint condition......not used at all.
here is what i came up with:
http://www.geocities.com/rjurs85/clone01.jpg
it has not been released but if you like it i might.

(the colored ones and the pilot are reskined to)

ObiKast
03-19-2003, 02:28 PM
Exlent models, nice work:)

Niblem
03-19-2003, 07:45 PM
Hey thanks guys. Zippo85 your pic isnt showing up. :(

Heres the new chin.

http://www.bridge-masters.com/pilot2.jpg

Lumpy
03-19-2003, 09:33 PM
dude, u're one of my heros!

this model/skin is great, there is no word to describe how this skin is

DarkLord60
03-19-2003, 09:38 PM
OHHH Now that is just to awesome!

Padawan_7
03-19-2003, 09:45 PM
Looking better Niblem! :D

I have two observations though.

1.) It looks like your pilot's helmet is a little too short, height-wise.

2.) The skin of the pilot's helmet is not totally accurate to the movie.

Here's two good pictures of the clone pilot, on the following page, that can probably help you out....

http://cgi.theforce.net/theforce/multimedia/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Images/Episode_2/Characters/Clonetrooper&img=


Keep up the good work! :D

Padawan_7

SettingShadow
03-20-2003, 02:23 AM
Padawan_7 is right, other than that it's looking perfect. :)

Daskers
03-20-2003, 06:46 AM
Vey nice! Will they include caps? Also when you make a shiny version, could you make it so that only the white armour shines and not the black cloth underneath. The previous shiny trooper had no such distinction.

Niblem
03-20-2003, 07:38 AM
Yeah that all deals with the shaders. And when I modeled last time, there wasnt any documentation on shaders. So this time around im gonna make everything just right :)

MustangMatt302
03-20-2003, 04:59 PM
That is SO pimpin' it. That has got to be the best model, I've ever seen. Totally wicked!! What other characters/objects are you planning to model? YOU ROCK!!!

Niblem
03-21-2003, 04:28 AM
Ok, after a little more work.. I've raised the pilots helmet height, and re-did a few things on his texture map, like suggested. Here's that pic.
http://www.bridge-masters.com/pilot3.jpg

And further more :D here is a pic of all the troopers side by side, clean and dirty... :D :D :D Jengo would be proud :fett: ; beware tho the pic is a big pic. ; Clone Army (http://www.bridge-masters.com/army.jpg)

I just noticed there seems to be a mapping problem on the red and blue troopers left lower arm :P gotta go fix that :P

Let me know what you think :P

Zippo85
03-21-2003, 06:02 AM
sorry....here is a picture

http://www.geocities.com/rjurs85/clone01.jpg

say what you think

Niblem
03-21-2003, 06:30 AM
Not bad, not bad at all.. :) :)
When Im Finished, I'll let you mess with my textures and see if they work, if you'd like.. :)

Daskers
03-21-2003, 10:09 AM
Great! And the caps?

Padawan_7
03-21-2003, 10:21 AM
That looks sweet man! They're perfect. Good job!!! :D

Anakin
03-21-2003, 10:51 AM
Great work :)
Cant wait to see this released :)

Will this also have bot support as well NPC functionality and LOD?

MustangMatt302
03-21-2003, 08:47 PM
That clone army pic, is almost like going down a Star Wars toy figure trench and seeing all the new, coolest figures ever! PIMP DATTY! Diggin' the clone pilot and the sand-ridden armor! I wish I could model. :D

Niblem
03-21-2003, 09:59 PM
Thanks..
Im working on the caps... Trying to figure out how to do it. Cause the lightsaber would cut right through the armor, so I could make the cut through the armor, or at a joint. Not sure how to accomplish this :P But yeah I will include them. In fact I havent even seperated the black body mesh yet, unlike the last trooper who's body was in parts. So I have to figure that out, and I still have to set up the hiearchy, the skeleton and the skin weighing. So there still is more work to do. And then I have sounds also :P
The LOD's will be included and there allready is bot support.

Ciao, I'll keep you updated.

12thMonkey
03-22-2003, 07:42 AM
Maybe you could make one of the ARC Troopers (Advanced Recon Commando Trooper) 'an elite soldier of the Republic.' Here's a shot of the Hasbro figure of it:
http://starwars.com/collecting/news/2003/03/img/h03_3_bg.jpg

mace_sundancer
03-22-2003, 02:52 PM
looks cool, but you forgot the green one. check out the starwars q&a section, there's five colors, plain for grunts, green for sarges, blue is leiutenant, red is major and gold is commander (might have red and blue wrong way round) oh and make sure you set you're commander's bot up the right way. the old one was set up as a grunt with the name clonecommander...

Hekx
03-22-2003, 03:09 PM
Here (http://www.starwars.com/community/askjc/jocasta/askjc20020528.html)'s what he's talking about. :p

The ARC trooper looks cool too. :)

MustangMatt302
03-22-2003, 11:39 PM
I'd like to see those 5 colours into effect! I like the ARC trooper too! That is a bounty hunter looking Clone Trooper.

DarkLord60
03-23-2003, 01:44 AM
Yea it is funky lookin... Those ARC troops I mean.

superracer0022
03-23-2003, 08:43 AM
it looks awesome, i would also like to see you make a green one (clone sergeants) just to complete the package

boinga1
03-23-2003, 08:58 AM
:clone::clone::clone::drop2::clone::clone::clone:

Niblem
03-23-2003, 09:31 PM
Yeah sure I can include a green skin :P But I dunno about the ARC trooper. Kinda wierd looking. But regardless, I might in the future.. Just not im my plans for the time being. And also I dont recall seeing any in AOTC. So currently this will be a movie release :P Maybe later.

Altus_Thrawn
03-23-2003, 10:30 PM
VVVVVVEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRYYYYYY nice. I am sure you fixed the bug in the older one in which the legs and torso were not connected.....

ninja
03-23-2003, 10:54 PM
aawww man arc troopers. thats groovy.

Niblem
03-26-2003, 02:45 AM
Alright, not fun, not fun, not fun! heh I've been making progress.. There are a few joint bugs in the model when imported into the game, plus I need to update some of the other files. Both skins are shaded with shaders. They are both shiny so to speak even the battle damaged one, but it looks good, trust me :) Got all the skins included and added the sergent. Still havent worked on the pilot yet, he's awaiting export from 3dmax. Lots more work to be done so be patient. If anyone can remember I cant seem to, what was the bone needed to be weighted for the saber back hand move to work correctly? Thanks.

Anakin
03-27-2003, 05:05 AM
Great news, do you have any ingame shots yet BTW?

DarkLord60
03-27-2003, 05:30 PM
Yes ingame!

Master_Payne
03-27-2003, 06:44 PM
Looking great, I only find one little "mistake" (sort of):
The commander needs to be darker in the yellow parts (more like the pilot) the captain did'n match the movie one (needs to be a little darker too) and the liutenant (blue) is far away to match the movie ones.
can you post a pic of the sergeant (green), and none of them has marks on the knees.

never meant to be rude but my english is limited :P

edit. added ref pic (see marker to find clones):

#$%&!, netfirms dont let me link, anyone knows another free hosting?

anyways there is the pic: http://www.starwars.com/community/downloads/wallpaper/viewer/theme20020822/3_1280x1024.jpg but there are no markers, yet you can see a commander, 5 captains, 5 liutenants a 3 sergeants.

Niblem
03-27-2003, 09:23 PM
Thanks for your input however im not trying to go all movie with this model. Because well Tim Appleby reviewed my model at polycount awhile back and I was kinda dissapointed, however I felt that he hit alot of real problems which has led the model to its current state. (however they reviewed model ver. 1.0 not 1.2 where I fixed some of those problems) Here's the statement (click it for the link) "The model also has ctf skins, while simplistic, the CTF skins are reminiscent of ranking officers from Ep2, but for functionality I don't think its enough variation for ctf skins. In a fast paced game it becomes very easy to loose track of which are the red team clone troopers and which are the blue. The ctf skins definitely need more color variation on them. " (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/reviews/jk2/clonetrooper/clonetrooper.shtml)
So thats why there are those extra color bands. And sure I can set the color of the commander to the same as the pilot. Not sure about the blue and red tho, maybe i'll match them with the pic provided. But Im using a specular map on my models regardless with a shader so the color kind of changes depending on the lighting. Heres some shots :) There are some obvious errors I have noticed with the models. If I fix the major ones I might release a beta version for you guys to download :) :)

Shot 1 (http://www.bridge-masters.com/game1.jpg) Shot 2 (http://www.bridge-masters.com/game2.jpg) Shot 3 (http://www.bridge-masters.com/game3.jpg) Shot 4 (http://www.bridge-masters.com/game4.jpg)

Anakin
03-28-2003, 03:43 AM
There are some obvious errors I have noticed with the models. If I fix the major ones I might release a beta version for you guys to download

Great look foward to seeing those.

What aboutthe reflectiveness of the amour, have you got that sussed as well?

Niblem
03-28-2003, 07:54 AM
Yeah the refllection is there, looks great. I need to adjust a specular map tho. Just wanna make it more detailed. :)

Kurgan
03-28-2003, 05:45 PM
While that is a valid criticism he makes, it shouldn't matter too much in an actual team game, considering the "team beacon" icon you can turn on (and which is on by default IIRC).

Kind of hard to ignore a big symbol above the heads of your teammates.

superracer0022
03-28-2003, 07:16 PM
is there a red light on the back of the helmet that blinks?

Niblem
03-28-2003, 08:32 PM
Yes the Led light is there its been improved also from my previous release.

Zappa_0
03-29-2003, 07:20 AM
They are looking really good...cant wait until they are released.

Hekx
03-29-2003, 10:12 AM
Looking good. :thumbsup:
Definite download from me. ;)

DarkLord60
03-30-2003, 09:43 PM
:Waits Anxiously:

Charmin Deluxe
04-01-2003, 01:17 PM
first of all a great model and a nice skin!

but there is still an error ...

http://darth-arth.net/~charmin/ja/m.gif

i used this model to make a statue of it and use it in my map

http://darth-arth.net/~charmin/ja/s2.jpg
http://darth-arth.net/~charmin/ja/s3.jpg

and there you can see the error really cleary .. you could fix this error by using a shader with "cull disable" command but i think if you would model the "caps" it looks really better ...

oh and am i able to use this in my map? :o

Darth NeoVenom
04-01-2003, 07:18 PM
How's the progress on this model? :D :saberr: :dmaul3: :sprobe: :sithm: :holosid:

Niblem
04-01-2003, 08:40 PM
Yeah, sure you can use this model in your map. Im aware of the 2-sided error. Not sure how you do that. If you know let me know.
Currrently the model is finished, but Im having an error, well 2 errors. When I had the 1.3 patch the model worked fine, now It doesnt work right. The problem is in the screenshot. 2nd problem is the knees, cant seem to skin them so they work correctly, I shall post a shot of this later on this evening.

http://www.bridge-masters.com/skeletontweak.jpg

boinga1
04-01-2003, 11:01 PM
woah...wtf?

Niblem
04-02-2003, 03:19 AM
ok, I figured out the Cull, you had to disable it :P
and yeah the skeleton gets all tweaked in JKII 1.4

Heres the knee deal, its only bound to the top bone cause when i bind it to top and bottom the knee cap glitches out, wonder if there is a way around this.. Maybe with a dummy or somthing? anyone know how?

http://www.bridge-masters.com/knee.jpg

Bart Skywalker
04-03-2003, 07:19 PM
How do you get the model to pose for map objects. I've tried moving the parts in Milkshape, but there is always clipping. By the way, great looking models!

Niblem
04-03-2003, 08:57 PM
I have no idea sorry, I use Discreets 3D Studio Max. Try asking in the modeling forum.

.:Solusar:.
04-03-2003, 11:59 PM
WoW.. :eek:
Im really impressed with all these good models..
Keep up the good work!

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I shall wait patiently for his day to come..
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Charmin Deluxe
04-04-2003, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by Bart Skywalker
How do you get the model to pose for map objects. I've tried moving the parts in Milkshape, but there is always clipping. By the way, great looking models!

just a little bit rotating and moving ... and that's it :D

Tesla
04-04-2003, 10:00 AM
Looks awesome u are great moddeller well done !! :)

-=ReApEr=-
04-16-2003, 04:34 AM
Wow those are looking awesome dude good work :)

-=DarkZero=-
05-01-2003, 09:52 PM
So have you finished fixing the bugs? I've been waiting for this anxiously lmao/

superracer0022
05-07-2003, 08:11 PM
bump, how is this thing coming? this and the master chief models are the only things keeping me at the forums.

superracer0022
05-07-2003, 08:12 PM
bump, how is this thing coming? this and the master chief models are the only things keeping me at the forums.


OOPS SORRY ABOUT THE DOUBLE POST

kerocool
05-08-2003, 03:28 PM
is the saberbug gone?

Tomppa1988
05-26-2003, 12:04 PM
yeah that's AWESOME!! :D now if you could give us something... screenshots... beta model...or something.. :D please? :) I love it.. I liked the old one too.. :D but I'm also curious about the saberbug... is it fixed?

Wudan
05-27-2003, 12:19 PM
ARC Troopers are clone troopers with less inhibitives and restraints, ie they tend to be more like Jango.

They are in EU about the clone wars, and the new series coming to the Cartoon Network.

I'd be curious to see if they are in Episode 3, it seems like they would almost certainly be in there.

Tomppa1988
05-27-2003, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by wudan
ARC Troopers are clone troopers with less inhibitives and restraints, ie they tend to be more like Jango.

They are in EU about the clone wars, and the new series coming to the Cartoon Network.

I'd be curious to see if they are in Episode 3, it seems like they would almost certainly be in there.

cartoon network????? as in european or american? and what time of day/night? 'coz we only have european cartoon network from 7:00am to 9:30pm.. :(

superracer0022
06-01-2003, 01:40 PM
are you still working on this model? i thinik it would be terrible if such a great model was never completed so i hope this one does not die

Altus_Thrawn
06-05-2003, 11:44 PM
yes the model looks really good I love clone troopers. Please don't let it die.

Tomppa1988
06-07-2003, 07:54 AM
please please please don't kill the model! :'( it looks so damn great! I WANT THAT MODEL!!!! please tell us you're just being quiet, but you're still working on it! :(

halo dude
06-09-2003, 10:27 PM
To fix the knee cap prob you could seperate the upper and lower parts between 2 files

halo dude
06-09-2003, 10:27 PM
To fix the knee cap prob you could seperate the upper and lower parts between 2 files

halo dude
06-09-2003, 10:28 PM
To fix the knee cap prob you could seperate the upper and lower parts between 2 files

superracer0022
06-09-2003, 10:47 PM
wow, ive seen double posts b4 but triple posts? come on dont let this model die it looks awesome!

its ok, u are new, it happens

kerocool
06-10-2003, 06:29 AM
well nice a triple post :)

Crowy
06-10-2003, 06:30 AM
i seen quad or more posts before... but i tihnk the person cleaned it up
(use hte edit button and click delete post on however many extras there are)

Shotokan
06-13-2003, 06:29 AM
Sssoooo.... When do you suppose this will come out?

Tomppa1988
06-13-2003, 08:08 AM
no-one has any kind of idea about that right now... I just hope he still continues making it.. :/