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-=DarkZero=-
04-14-2003, 03:38 PM
My friend and I have come to an akward conclusion,Episode 3...well first of all lets get to the point where episode 1 and 2 were ruined,(in our POV)The dialog in episode 1 sucked,aND YODAs design too,episode 2 was ruined by the crooked plot-and what not
:P
Episode 3...well the other movies were likle 2 hour max maybe,Episode 3 will have to be like 4 hours to cover the detail of anakin going to the darkside,the years that pass from his battle with kenobi,luke growing up,They can't just make books of it to explain,they have to do all this detail or it will be ruined,what do you think?
Hopfully I made some sense >.>

C'jais
04-14-2003, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by Mobius Berreta.
Episode 3 will have to be like 4 hours to cover the detail of anakin going to the darkside,

Why?

the years that pass from his battle with kenobi

Why "years"?

luke growing up

Why do we have to see this?

They can't just make books of it to explain

Why should they try to explain all of this?

Don't set your expectations too high.

coupes.
04-14-2003, 03:46 PM
there's no way ep3 is gone be bad, it's gonna be soooo fine, i'm telling you!

i agree with you C'jais, we don't need to see luke growing up and the movie will certanely not be 4 hours long, maybe 2 and a half hours max.

nova_wolf
04-14-2003, 03:54 PM
I kinda agree with some of that!

EpI and EpII arent bad, but they AINT the OT!

To quote Han - 'I got a bad feeling about this...'

-=DarkZero=-
04-14-2003, 03:56 PM
Well they should show the clone wars atleast,what happens after,im not saying they really HAVE to show luke growing,lukes a >.>
any ways.....they should atleast tell the story of vader become vader,obi wan moving to tatooine,and at the end of it all,Palpatines forsight of luke/which couldnt be done in like 1hour and 20 minutes >.>

coupes.
04-14-2003, 03:59 PM
i think we might be seeing all that exept maybe for the clone wars, but i think it all happens pretty quick in time. And it wouldn't be star wars-like to make a movie spanning over a couple of years.

Sivy
04-14-2003, 04:00 PM
Episode 3 will have to be like 4 hours to cover the detail of anakin going to the darkside

nah, i read a GL interview where he said it would be the same lengh as Ep II.

and didn't you see Ep II? anakin's pretty much there, he just needs a final push.

probably the fake death of padme, 'cause she wont die but somehow anakin will think she did.

StormHammer
04-14-2003, 04:17 PM
I agree that you're expecting a bit too much from this last episode in the series. As for seeing the Clone Wars...you'll be able to watch that as...wait for it...an animated cartoon series. [deep sarcasm]WOW[/deep sarcasm].

Let's face it, Lucas dropped the ball somewhere between the classic trilogy and the prequels, and he's still looking for it. Well, actually, he's not setting out to make great films this time around, more like visual banquets.

It wouldn't surprise me if at the very ending of the film you just get a glimpse of the renowned black armour as Mr. V. takes his place by Big P.'s side.

I've leared not to expect anything from this series...that way whatever does come along is a little more rewarding. Episode II was a definite improvement over Episode I, but still fell far short of the classics, IMHO. Remember that when Lucas made ANH (which was just Star Wars back then), it was a complete unknown, never-been-done-before risk-fest, so he had to try harder to make a better movie and make the actors sweat blood for their pay - and as it happened, it was a damned fine cast of talented people who managed to bind the whole roller-coaster ride into something cohesive and enjoyable.

This time around I feel the actors aren't stretching themselves enough to give fine performances, and Hayden was definitely 100% miscast for the role. Personally I would have picked that guy out of NYPD Blue...er...damn, can't remember his name, but he was in The Champ as a kid. Now that guy can actually act, and has a passing resemblance to Jake Lloyd (the kid who played Anakin in Episode I).

So don't expect too much from Episode III, and you might actually enjoy it.

ET Warrior
04-14-2003, 04:45 PM
Bah, I love EVERY SINGLE star wars movie JUST the same. I do not like the OT more than the prequels, nor do I like the prequels more than the OT. Although I personally feel that I'm going to be TOTALLY blown away by episode 3. But that's just my feelings.



And I believe it was Rick McCallum who has confirmed that Episode 3 will begin with the last battle of the clone wars......so you won't see too much of those......which I dont mind....because I'm tired of seeing robots fighting....i want man vs. man fighting!!!

coupes.
04-14-2003, 04:52 PM
that's it, you just have to trust your feelings and you'll enjoy ep3 ...

and fall to the dark side MUOHAHAHA!!

Master_Payne
04-14-2003, 04:54 PM
It will be the standar SW lenght 2 hours and a few minutes and try to keep your spectatives as low as possible, then you will find ep3 great, no matters how it is.
just hope jar jar doesn't have too much dialog or screen time.

-=DarkZero=-
04-14-2003, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by Master_Payne
It will be the standar SW lenght 2 hours and a few minutes and try to keep your spectatives as low as possible, then you will find ep3 great, no matters how it is.
just hope jar jar doesn't have too much dialog or screen time.
ROFL HAL-OLUYA or whatever,jar jar ruined episode 1 completly

boinga1
04-14-2003, 07:20 PM
If you didn't like ep1 or 2, you probably won't like ep3....it will probably not be much "better".

-=DarkZero=-
04-14-2003, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by boinga1
If you didn't like ep1 or 2, you probably won't like ep3....it will probably not be much "better".
Episode 2 was good,it's just that they're luring the younger fans,and I don't like it because they know nothing of the original series,and the movie should have focused around padme and anakin and anakin become a dark jedi then the clone wars and action,if I do say so myself,But episode 3 is 3,and rotj was the 3rd,so that proves the 3rd movies are the best.

TheHobGoblin
04-14-2003, 09:13 PM
All I have to say is I hate the prequals. They don't live up to the Trilogy.

-=DarkZero=-
04-14-2003, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by TheHobGoblin
All I have to say is I hate the prequals. They don't live up to the Trilogy.
I hear ya dawg.
ROTJ owned all though lol

TheHobGoblin
04-14-2003, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Mobius Berreta.
I hear ya dawg.
ROTJ owned all though lol

Exept for the ewoks...... puppets.... what with Lucas and puppets? :eek:

-=DarkZero=-
04-14-2003, 10:22 PM
WHAT! EWOKS ARE AMAZING! 2 DAYS AGO I WAS GETTING IN TROUBLE FOR GETTING INTO A FIGHT AND EWOKS CAME AND DANCE!
(Havnt slept in so long,having hallucanations >.>)

boinga1
04-14-2003, 10:56 PM
ewoks were real people in suits...unless by puppets you refer to jabba's gang and :yoda: the great master.

ET Warrior
04-14-2003, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by TheHobGoblin
All I have to say is I hate the prequals. They don't live up to the Trilogy.

Well the prequels hate you!!!!!....and YOU dont live up to the trilogy!! :p

Pedantic
04-15-2003, 12:54 AM
I don't actually see too many differences between the OT and the Prequels. Both relied heavily on visual effects and, well, that's just say neither trilogy will be or was nominated for an Oscar. ;)

-=DarkZero=-
04-15-2003, 12:57 AM
Hell,they werre all in the ripleys books,thats good enough :D

Darth Groovy
04-15-2003, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by StormHammer
I agree that you're expecting a bit too much from this last episode in the series. As for seeing the Clone Wars...you'll be able to watch that as...wait for it...an animated cartoon series. [deep sarcasm]WOW[/deep sarcasm].

Let's face it, Lucas dropped the ball somewhere between the classic trilogy and the prequels, and he's still looking for it. Well, actually, he's not setting out to make great films this time around, more like visual banquets.

It wouldn't surprise me if at the very ending of the film you just get a glimpse of the renowned black armour as Mr. V. takes his place by Big P.'s side.

I've leared not to expect anything from this series...that way whatever does come along is a little more rewarding. Episode II was a definite improvement over Episode I, but still fell far short of the classics, IMHO. Remember that when Lucas made ANH (which was just Star Wars back then), it was a complete unknown, never-been-done-before risk-fest, so he had to try harder to make a better movie and make the actors sweat blood for their pay - and as it happened, it was a damned fine cast of talented people who managed to bind the whole roller-coaster ride into something cohesive and enjoyable.

This time around I feel the actors aren't stretching themselves enough to give fine performances, and Hayden was definitely 100% miscast for the role. Personally I would have picked that guy out of NYPD Blue...er...damn, can't remember his name, but he was in The Champ as a kid. Now that guy can actually act, and has a passing resemblance to Jake Lloyd (the kid who played Anakin in Episode I).

So don't expect too much from Episode III, and you might actually enjoy it.

You mean Ricky Shroeder? The creep from "Silver Spoons"!?!?!?

And you call me mad? :eek:

Pedantic
04-15-2003, 01:42 AM
Well, like I said before, I never see these "extraordinary" acting moments people seem to see in the OT. :p

yangyan
04-15-2003, 01:45 AM
he he he

coupes.
04-15-2003, 01:49 AM
neither did i, but it's the feeling you get from watching the OT that's pecial i think.

OT : happy ending
PT : sad ending (or happy if you're twisted)

i mean we all love happy stories don't we?

The_One
04-15-2003, 05:58 AM
I read an interview just a couple of weeks ago that put some of my worries to bed. Lucas said that he was going to try to cut back on the amount of special effects used in Episode III. He also said, now this is the interesting part, that once we saw Episode III it would completely change how we viewed the rest of the prequel trilogy. He stated that he knew he'd lost quite a lot of fans due to Episode I/II, and that they'd just have to trust him and that it'd all make sense come Episode III.

I'll try and trust him, and let's hope once I've seen Episode III I'll have more tolerance for Episode I and II, 'cause let's face it, they just aren't in the same league as the classic trilogy. At least not now, anyway :p

I'll try and find a link to that interview for those that wish to read it.

StormHammer
04-15-2003, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
You mean Ricky Shroeder? The creep from "Silver Spoons"!?!?!?

And you call me mad? :eek:

Yes, that's the one. :)

We're all mad here. :D *disappears in a puff of illogic*

The_One...a link would be appweshiated. :jawa

Lunatic Jedi
04-15-2003, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by Mobius Berreta.
luke growing up

We don't need to see Luke grow up. Look at the transition between Ep I and Ep II. Anakin aged at least 10 years in that time, and they didn't have to explain anything! See? THE SYSTEM WORKS!!!

NURRRGHHH!!! :eek:

Clemme w/Stick
04-15-2003, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by .:CoupeS:.
there's no way ep3 is gone be bad, it's gonna be soooo fine, i'm telling you!

i agree with you C'jais, we don't need to see luke growing up and the movie will certanely not be 4 hours long, maybe 2 and a half hours max.

I'm with you 2.

-Clemme

The_One
04-15-2003, 08:21 AM
http://cgi.theforce.net/theforce/tfn.cgi?storyID=20457

The thing about the special effects must've been in a different article. Also, Lucas said recently that Episode III would be exactly the same length as Ep. I & II.

Darklighter
04-15-2003, 08:33 AM
I'm putting my faith in George Lucas this one last time, and I sincerely hope he'll get everything just right for the final prequel. I trust he'll pick out, condense and include all the relevant information for Episode 3. I also don't think he'll need to rely purely on special effects this time to make the movie look good, not like Episode 2. I'm mainly looking forward to Anakin and Obi-wan's duel:D

Agen
04-15-2003, 08:44 AM
Yeh, for osme odd reason i want to see obi getting thrown whooped. i think we need some more lightsaber action throughout the film too.

BCanr2d2
04-15-2003, 09:22 AM
After all, AOTC bucked the 2 and bit hour trend, it was 141 minutes, closer to 2 1/2 hrs........


Anyway, the thing with the prequels is that they have to show how the Republic came down, and you had to know it was going to be something political, which isn't what people like to think of in a SW movie. Agreed that GL did make them a bit of a visual feast to the eye, but it is his vision, and he liked it grand, just never had the freedom and budget to be able to do it.
Also IMO too many people expect GL to deliver a clear answer to things in the movies, if you watch the first two movies with the originals in mind, many more things in the movies are more significant than you think. So much of it is the original movies, but with usually a different outcome to almost the same situation, showing how similar Anakin and Luke are, and it was their choices that made them the way they were.

From all reports Ep 3 will still leave about a 20 year gap to ANH, so not everything is going to be told, but you would hope what was mentioned in I think the ROTJ novel is what we get to see (I wont tell those that don't know what is mentioned there). I would also hope, or assume, it is more of an Anakin-centric movie, that shows his slide into DV's suit.
There are so many things we know must happen, but it is whether they are placed into the movie. So many who knew LOTR were disappointed with TTT since it changed what was expected from the book, and changed the significance of certain events....