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StormHammer
05-13-2003, 05:18 PM
I don't normally post two threads on the same topic across 2 forums, but I'm making an exception in this instance.

Lucasarts have just announced they are developing Star Wars: Republic Commando...a dark and intense FPS using an enhanced version of the Unreal engine, for the PC and X-Box.

My wish has finally come true. I talked about them making a game like this a few years ago...and they've finally gone and done it. Thank you Lucasarts! :D

Go here (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=99507) for the other thread I started on this...which has the link to their information, and a movie. :D

Enjoy. :D

Boba Rhett
05-13-2003, 05:34 PM
*wipes tears away from eyes*

It's... it's so very beautiful. Am I dreaming? :eek:

*pinches Stormhammer*

Nope! I'm not dreaming! :eek:



Eveyrone go watch the trailer! It's pants meltingly good!

The Count
05-13-2003, 05:34 PM
My only worry is it will take a year to make, however it will be cool to see if LEC can make a great FPS without Raven's help, I hope it catches the scary essence of Dark Forces.

Darklighter
05-13-2003, 05:36 PM
*Stares wide-eyed at trailer, and starts to drool*

I don't believe it...these images before me...they cannot be real...oh my god...

*Passes out*

Damn this game looks sooo good! ^^ My goodness, what a lovely surprise this is:DExcuse me...

*Goes to watch trailer again*

Ratmjedi
05-13-2003, 05:40 PM
Finally they are going to make a FPS where you wont have a Lightsaber or Force powers. I mean they are cool and everything but I would rather blow up and shoot some droids up then using a Lightsaber.

It will also be set in the Clone War Era so it should be some new enviroments and just a awesome story. What better FPS then actually being a soldier in the Clone Wars.

I can't wait to get home and acess the site because I am at school right now and all that crap is filtered.

:lsduel: :duel:

Wacky_Baccy
05-13-2003, 06:10 PM
:eek:

Oh.. my... god... SWEET! :eek:

*adds to his select list of games he must get at any cost* :D

Thanks for the heads-up, Stormy! :D

*runs off to watch the trailer again and drool some more*

Jed
05-13-2003, 06:56 PM
*saves trailer*

Wow....

That...


Was...





AMAZING!!! :D

*drools*

StormHammer
05-13-2003, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by Ratmjedi
Finally they are going to make a FPS where you wont have a Lightsaber or Force powers. I mean they are cool and everything but I would rather blow up and shoot some droids up then using a Lightsaber.

It will also be set in the Clone War Era so it should be some new enviroments and just a awesome story. What better FPS then actually being a soldier in the Clone Wars.


Yeah. I've been waiting for this for a long time. I can't wait to get hold of some serious SW hardware, and start blasting things. As Dooku said, if they can recapture the essence of DF, and make it 10 times better, they'll be onto a winner with this.

It looks like LEC have finally bitten the bullet to develop this under the Unreal engine. Fantastic move, I say...and I think they've been looking at a lot of fan feedback around JO/JA where people asked for those games to be on the Unreal engine.

I think that movie trailer is probably a cut scene...but what a scene. If it proves to be in-game footage, then I don't think I'll ever get my jaw back off the floor. :D

OMG...can you imagine MP for a game like this? :eek:

Wacky_Baccy...you're entirely welcome. :D Anyway, I had to try and outdo digl...he's usually the one who gets info up first. I wonder what happened to him this time... :eyeraise:

C'jais
05-13-2003, 07:38 PM
It doesn't look like ingame footage, but if they do use the latest Unreal engine, they could make something which should be pretty damn close!

:D

Pad
05-13-2003, 07:49 PM
* tries to dl the trailer *
o crap, doesnt work :(

o well, seein as its gonne be using the unreal engine, it cant be bad. and as its a different kind of sw game i think its very promissing aswell.

* adds to must buy list *

edlib
05-13-2003, 08:40 PM
Interesting. I'm actually more excited over the new Sam & Max game though. That one looks like a riot.
There's one empty square left on the LA E3 announcement page.

*Crosses fingers* *Crosses toes* *Crosses every other appendage flexable enough to be crossed*

Please be an X-Wing game! Please please please please please!

Now that LA is working with Lawrence Holland and Totally Games (the new Secret Weapons Over Normandy) again that doesn't sound so crazy anymore.

Please please please please please!

Boba Rhett
05-13-2003, 08:48 PM
Wait, isn't it a given that the last square is RS3 or are we getting another surprise? :confused:

edlib
05-13-2003, 08:53 PM
You might have a point. I didn't think about RS3.

Still... that relationship between LA and Totally Games bodes well for X-Wing fans. If not announced now, then soon... The reviving of so many of LA's classic titles and characters leads me to think that the idea of a new X-Wing sequels isn't so impossible anymore.

Hope springs eternal.

leXX
05-13-2003, 09:00 PM
I think I'm going to cry!

Acrylic
05-13-2003, 09:22 PM
WAY too many SW games...its annoying. :rolleyes:

Good ones will be JK3, SWG, and KOTOR. Thats all I'll pay attention too (for SW that is)

Sam Fisher
05-13-2003, 09:35 PM
*Watches movie* starts drooling... starts crying..... OMG...

ZBomber
05-13-2003, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by AcrylicGuitar
WAY too many SW games...its annoying. :rolleyes:

Good ones will be JK3, SWG, and KOTOR. Thats all I'll pay attention too (for SW that is)

You can;t ahve too many Star Wars Games, EVER. ;)

shock ~ unnamed
05-13-2003, 10:09 PM
http://www.lucasarts.com/press/releases/74.html

Movie looks pretty cool.

teutonicknight
05-13-2003, 11:16 PM
It does... I can't wait.

StormHammer
05-14-2003, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Padanime
* tries to dl the trailer *
o crap, doesnt work :(

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Sorry to hear that, Pad. :( Have you got the latest version of Quicktime installed?

Originally posted by AcrylicGuitar
WAY too many SW games...its annoying.

I disagree. Out of 11 titles that are being announced, only 4 so far are Star Wars. That's less than half their line-up...and will still be half even if the last one is a SW game as well. Considering they're the only developer allowed to make SW games (now by sub-contracting other developers), 4 or 5 SW games in the works doesn't really constitute that much...

Anyway...I'm still patiently waiting for more information about SW:RC. *looks meaningfully in the direction of Lucasarts* Well?

Darth Groovy
05-14-2003, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by ZBomber
You can;t ahve too many Star Wars Games, EVER. ;)

I could not agree more.


I am all over this particular game, I feel it will be one of the most popular Star Wars titles ever, and will generate hundreds of fans in the same way that Jedi Outcast did on it's release. Just when I was getting ready to give up on video games.... this goes and happens. This game, and Jedi Academy will be the two titles that I will be willing to give up money for.

*watches trailer again....faints*

:eek:

-BLaCKouT-
05-14-2003, 06:11 PM
That video looks gorgeous! Mind you, this beast of a machine had trouble running the UT03 demo until I dropped all the settings until it looked like Dark Forces :p

Still, a year eh? Less beer, more computer hardware I fear... I've got Doom3 to think about as well.

The real test will be if I still play JO...

EDIT: After watching it a couple (!) more times, I remember when the Clone Wars Animation was announced, and there were a few debates on whether the animation should be stylised ( la Samurai Jack) or photo-realistic ( la Final Fantasy). At the time I opted for stylised; I'm not sure now. If the CW Cartoons could be as out-and-out violent as that movie (which is doubtable) then I'd love to see that as a series. :D

B.

StormHammer
05-15-2003, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by BLaCKouT_1138
After watching it a couple (!) more times, I remember when the Clone Wars Animation was announced, and there were a few debates on whether the animation should be stylised ( la Samurai Jack) or photo-realistic ( la Final Fantasy). At the time I opted for stylised; I'm not sure now. If the CW Cartoons could be as out-and-out violent as that movie (which is doubtable) then I'd love to see that as a series. :D

B.

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree with you. A CGI animated series would be much better than the style they're going for.

Back on topic...I wonder why there is no official site for this game, yet? All of the others that have been announced have official sites...but this one just has the Press Release and nothing else. That looks a bit odd, to me. Even if they haven't got any in-game screenshots, or anything, an official site would be nice to have. They could show us come concept art, if nothing else.

Come on LEC...you can't leave us hanging like this... :(

Darth Groovy
05-15-2003, 12:48 PM
Anyone know if any stores are taking pre-orders on this game? I personally have not pre-ordered a game since "The Phantom Mencace" came out for Playstation. I DEFINITELY will pre-order this one, because I have a funny feeling this one will fly off the shelf quicker than an Iraqi post-Saddam clearance sale.

swphreak
05-15-2003, 01:38 PM
Yea, it's all nice and all, but I want my EU Video Game!! *pouts*



okok, the game will be awesome. The graphics better be just a good as the trailer too. That'd kick ass!.

Taos
05-16-2003, 02:34 AM
Originally posted by StormHammer
Back on topic...I wonder why there is no official site for this game, yet? All of the others that have been announced have official sites...but this one just has the Press Release and nothing else. That looks a bit odd, to me. Even if they haven't got any in-game screenshots, or anything, an official site would be nice to have. They could show us come concept art, if nothing else.

Come on LEC...you can't leave us hanging like this... :(

I'm hoping to see something soon. C'mon, just show us anything. I really have a feeling that this game [if it lives up to it's possible potential] will be bigger then JO. *keeps fingers crossed*

:D

Darklighter
05-16-2003, 05:05 AM
Originally posted by Leemu Taos
I really have a feeling that this game [if it lives up to it's possible potential] will be bigger then JO. *keeps fingers crossed*

A likely possibility;)They're going all out for this title, I can tell, and judging from that trailer...we won't be disappointed upon it's release. Still, 2004 seems such a long way away...:(

leXX
05-16-2003, 01:27 PM
I've just finished reading Dark Horse comics Star Wars Republic #50 'The Epic Battle for Kamino' which is based on the events immediately following the Geonosis Arena battle. Now I know it's EU, but from my understanding, the writers have been given the plot for Episode 3 and are filling the gap between AOTC and EP3, much like the game 'The Clone Wars'.

Now the reason I'm telling you this...

I've just finished watching the Republic Commando trailer again, and I noticed that the Clones were very different fromt he ones in AOTC. In Republic #50 there are Arc Troopers. Arc Troopers are A.dvanced R.econ C.lone Troopers. They were trained by Jango Fett himslef for the most critical missions. They were keep in stasis tubes because they display some of Jango's personality and independence. This has made them unpredictable. They were released to help in the defence of Kamino.

They look very similar to the Clone Troopers seen in the trailer. I'm wondering if we will be playing as ARC Troopers in the game. The official site says...

from the point-of-view of an elite squad member of a Republic Special Operations unit

... which sounds very much like the ARC Troopers I just described.

Here is a picture of one of them:

http://209.95.35.130/covers/11/11697.jpg

StormHammer
05-16-2003, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by leXX
I've just finished watching the Republic Commando trailer again, and I noticed that the Clones were very different fromt he ones in AOTC. In Republic #50 there are Arc Troopers. Arc Troopers are A.dvanced R.econ C.lone Troopers. They were trained by Jango Fett himslef for the most critical missions. They were keep in stasis tubes because they display some of Jango's personality and independence. This has made them unpredictable. They were released to help in the defence of Kamino.

They look very similar to the Clone Troopers seen in the trailer. I'm wondering if we will be playing as ARC Troopers in the game. The official site says...

... which sounds very much like the ARC Troopers I just described.

Here is a picture of one of them:


Thanks very much for all that information, leXX. :)

Here's a couple of still pictures of one of the troopers in the E3 video (courtesy of JBRAA) for comparison...

http://mojoart.mixnmojo.com/original-art/republic-commando/videos/e3-trailer/43.jpg

http://mojoart.mixnmojo.com/original-art/republic-commando/videos/e3-trailer/42.jpg

I reckon they look different from the clone troopers seen in AOTC, and possibly closer to the picture leXX posted above. :thumbsup:

Heh...I like the idea of becoming a renegade trooper. :D

Darth Groovy
05-17-2003, 11:32 PM
Does anyone know when this is coming out? I tried to reserve a copy at Babbage's and they did not have a listing for it.

Solbe M'ko
05-18-2003, 12:15 AM
Is that trailer all we have to see of this game? Please post a link or something so I can see something more.

Darth Groovy
05-18-2003, 12:46 AM
Here. (http://www.lucasarts.com/press/releases/74.html)

Looks like I will have to wait a whole year for this one. That sucks.:mad:

Solbe M'ko
05-18-2003, 12:57 AM
OK, I see a trailer. This game could be good, it could be crap. I have no idea from what I've seen.

Darth Groovy
05-18-2003, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by Solbe M'ko
OK, I see a trailer. This game could be good, it could be crap. I have no idea from what I've seen.

Did you even READ the press release I linked you too? For a game coming out a year from now, how much information do you expect?:confused:

Reborn Outcast
05-18-2003, 01:28 AM
OMG!!!!!!!!! That is amazing.

*adds to list*

Well, so far I have... SWG, KOTOR, JA and Republic Commando... sounds good to me. :D

Solbe M'ko
05-18-2003, 03:50 PM
All I know is that it will have the Unreal engine. That doesn't make an ounce of difference in the gameplay. I'm optimistic, but I don't want to get my hopes up too soon.

The Count
05-18-2003, 04:54 PM
Solbe M'ko do you have this effect on everyone you meet?

Silent_Thunder
05-18-2003, 06:15 PM
Downloading the video now... I just wouldn't get my hopes up too much. Bounty Hunter looked like it might have been pretty good (but it my opinion) it kinda sucked.

If it's a PC game that just happens to be on the XBox than it could be good. If it's an XBox game that just happens to get released for the PC than it probably won't be quite as good... If you know what I mean :). I hope the PC version is released first :).

If this game could capture the feel of a good FPS in the Star Wars universe like Dark Forces, it could be one of the best games of all time for me. I like the Jedi stuff, but I always thought Dark Forces like gameplay was better.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see... The fact that this game isn't going to be released for awhile, yet was already announced leads me to believe it will be a pretty major SWs game... But we shall see.

StormHammer
05-18-2003, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by Solbe M'ko
All I know is that it will have the Unreal engine. That doesn't make an ounce of difference in the gameplay. I'm optimistic, but I don't want to get my hopes up too soon.

Well, of course we don't know any details about what the game will actually contain, or anything, so yes, in a way you're right that we shouldn't get our hopes up too soon.

However, I have to hope that LEC is returning to the same kind of quality they showed in products like DF and JK. Remember that they had their own internal development teams working on those titles, and they were both great games. I know we've had a rocky ride since then...but on the other hand LEC seem to be making a lot of the right decisions lately.

I think they've made exactly the right decision going with the Unreal engine. That alone means they're really committed to making a great game, to stump up the $500,000 licensing fee for the engine. There is also an extraordinary amount of talent out there in terms of individuals who can produce some excellent maps and mods with the Unreal tech, and I hope they look long and hard at hiring the best of the crop.

If the trailer is a cut scene, as I suspect, then in my view they are finally returning to and even surpassing the quality of cut scenes we saw in Jedi Knight.

I am more hopeful that LEC can produce something very good on the Unreal tech than some other unknown developers with less experience. I mean, I waited some time for Devastation to come out...and now it has, it's pretty mediocre judging by the game demos. LEC should know what works in terms of a decent Star Wars based FPS by simply looking back at Dark Forces and Jedi Knight. If they can recapture the 'magic' of those two titles, then RC could potentially be a killer game. If they don't simply rely on the great graphics in the engine (and based on past experience, they don't), and develop an intriguing storyline, I have high hopes for the title.

Of course, I'll be happier when I've seen in-game screenshots and some more details. *hint hint - looks at LEC*

Solbe M'ko
05-18-2003, 06:33 PM
Yeah, LEC makes good games. That's why I got really scared when JO was going to be done by Raven, but it turned out okay. I'll just wait until something real shows up that I can get worked up about that's all.

kerocool
05-18-2003, 06:38 PM
this game looks very interesting i think im going to buy it when it gets released

Silent_Thunder
05-18-2003, 07:02 PM
Just got done watching the trailer... since that isn't actually ingame footage, and the fact that we hardly know anything about this game doesn't really give me any reason to speculate further... Though I do agree with Stormhammer's assessments.

I hope we can get some real screenshots soon.

BTW, I personally thought that single player JO was pretty good... but it lacked a lot of the feel and "mystery" that the original JK, MotS, and DF had. I can only conclude that it was because LEC didn't internally create the game, but gave it to Raven. In my opinion that was one of their worst decissions resently... They already proved they could make oustanding FPS games, I don't see why they had to step down and let someone else develop, but that's a whole other argument.

StormHammer
05-18-2003, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Silent_Thunder
BTW, I personally thought that single player JO was pretty good... but it lacked a lot of the feel and "mystery" that the original JK, MotS, and DF had. I can only conclude that it was because LEC didn't internally create the game, but gave it to Raven. In my opinion that was one of their worst decissions resently... They already proved they could make oustanding FPS games, I don't see why they had to step down and let someone else develop, but that's a whole other argument.

Okay, I'm going to speculate on this. :D

When LEC made JK, Justin Chin was at the helm, and they had a pretty damned good team working on the title. I believe that same team went on to develop MotS, an expansion pack that was damned near a separate game in it's own right if they'd spent more time on it. I'll speculate there and say they looked at the Quake 2 engine, which was admittedly prettier than JK's...and they probably decided to release MotS earlier rather than later so it didn't look too old and out-dated. Probably a good move.

Now wait 4 years...and Justin Chin and probably a lot of that original 'FPS' development team had moved on to pastures anew. They started working on Obi-Wan, trying to revamp and drastically update the JK-style engine, and realised in the course of development the game they were making wasn't really suitable for the PC.

In the meantime, Raven had produced Heretic II...a damned good game, IMHO, with a 3rd-person view and very nice animations of the main character, complete with some nifty attacks with his bladed staff. So they had a good basis for melee combat, and they'd already produced 'FPS' titles - so they had both bases covered, and they were probably available. I have to say I think LEC made the right choice getting Raven on board, because I don't know of many other developers that managed to produce both good FPS and a good melee-style combat game. The problem with Raven has been the linearity of level design, which hopefully they are seriously addressing in JA.

That's all just speculation on my part...but it makes sense to me in that context. I too liked JO - it was different from JK in many respects, but I think they made the right decision focusing more on the lightsaber and Force powers.

I reckon LEC have probably 'relearned' some stuff about producing a good FPS by working with Raven, and if they've got a decent team together with the right skill-set, there's no reason why they can't get back to producing some killer FPS games in-house themselves. I certainly hope they can pull it off with Republic Commando, and I'm encouraged by the way they worded their announcement - that it would be dark and intense and brutal. Good ingredients for an FPS, in my book, but the proof will be in the execution. Hopefully they have someone with good vision at the helm who knows what makes a good FPS tick.

I wonder if they'll decide to produce a new and revisualised version of the Outlaws game they produced around the same time as JK (using the same engine, I believe). That would rock as well. :D

Solbe M'ko
05-19-2003, 04:28 PM
I may be wrong, but I think Outlaws was actually on the DF engine. That game was funny!
"Hehehe! Good Shootin' mister! But yer already too late!"