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Die Another Day
05-18-2003, 08:08 AM
Okay, the other day, my doorbell rang. Not a regular thing, I can assure you. I was greeted by an old man using a walking stick, who looked very nice and started talking about the world's situation.
"Great!" I think. I enjoy deep, political discussions. Yes, I am patheticly beyond help.
It's after about 20 minutes of talking that I realise that I've been talking with a Jehova's Witness. As he starts his little speech about Jesus returning to Earth and sorting everyone out, destroying all war and famine, I switch off. After several well-placed smiles and nods on my part, he gives me a leaflet and leaves.

Which brings me to my question: do you listen and respond to Jehova's Witnesses? Do you answer the door and tell them to shove off? Do you smile politely and give some excuse ("I'm polishing my shotgun, do you mind?")? What do you do?

PS: No offence to anyone here who is religious, or who knows any Jehova's Witnesses, or is one themselves. This isn't a "Why do you hate religion?" thread, so don't insult anyone please. Keep it nice, guys!

Death_Jedi
05-18-2003, 08:30 AM
when people come and knock on the door and go do u want a raffle ticket or somthing i just say
sorry my dads not home ......so yea

Lunatic Jedi
05-18-2003, 08:32 AM
Next time a Jehova's witness comes to my house, I'll just scream "penis" until they leave. :p

Dark Reaper
05-18-2003, 09:19 AM
You should respect everyone, no matter who it is or what it does..

... I always trow a bucket of water over them from the window above the door as soon as I see them comming to my house..

-=ReApEr=-
05-18-2003, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by Death_Jedi
when people come and knock on the door and go do u want a raffle ticket or somthing i just say
sorry my dads not home ......so yea

I always say that. Unlucky for me i got one living right next to me, who knocks on my door all the time. :mad:

I just pretend i can't hear the door, with my pc headphones on. :)

Darth Groovy
05-18-2003, 10:08 AM
You know, I never ever condemn anyone for their religious beliefs, yet I have had a run in with the Jahova's Witness in the past. Please allow me to set up the scenario... this is totally true...

Anyways, I think it was during my junior or senior year in high school back in 91, or 92.

It is Christmas Day, my mother is in bed, and my father is supposed to be coming home from work. Jahova's Witness stops by and starts in with the "end of the world speech". Being a Baptist, I am nice to them, and tell them that I already belong to a church and am more than prepared for the Apocalypse. I take their pamphlets and the leave. An hour later, they come back, encouraging me to attend their church, once again, I am nice, I tell them I already belong to a church, so they once again hand me yet another pamphlet, and I am hoping they do not come back, especially considering this is Christmas Day. Well, low and behold, they come back again, no less than a half hour later, and at this point, I let the doorbell ring more. I don't know why, but I immediately took off all of my clothes and answered the door stark naked. I tell them: "I am taking a shower, what do you want now?" At this point they make a mad dash for the car and never return. It was a sick tactic, but it worked. I don't know about you guys, but anyone who is too forcefull, immediately turns me off, and nobody who lived in my house at the time, was angry at me for what I did.

We never heard from them again.....ever!

ckcsaber
05-18-2003, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy

It is Christmas Day, my mother is in bed, and my father is supposed to be coming home from work. Jahova's Witness stops by and starts in with the "end of the world speech". Being a Baptist, I am nice to them, and tell them that I already belong to a church and am more than prepared for the Apocalypse. I take their pamphlets and the leave. An hour later, they come back, encouraging me to attend their church, once again, I am nice, I tell them I already belong to a church, so they once again hand me yet another pamphlet, and I am hoping they do not come back, especially considering this is Christmas Day. Well, low and behold, they come back again, no less than a half hour later, and at this point, I let the doorbell ring more. I don't know why, but I immediately took off all of my clothes and answered the door stark naked. I tell them: "I am taking a shower, what do you want now?" At this point they make a mad dash for the car and never return. It was a sick tactic, but it worked. I don't know about you guys, but anyone who is too forcefull, immediately turns me off, and nobody who lived in my house at the time, was angry at me for what I did.


Good one! :lol:

I have never had any "run in's" with a Jehova's Witness, and I don't know much about their religion. It seems to me that they are just another minority religion, and this is no reason to dislike them.

If they did knock on my door, I'd ask them if they wanted to join MY religion. lol, that should get rid of them, but not nearly as effective as Groovy's "answerthedoornaked" technique.:p

C'jais
05-18-2003, 10:21 AM
It'd be easier for them if they didn't try so hard.

-=ReApEr=-
05-18-2003, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
You know, I never ever condemn anyone for their religious beliefs, yet I have had a run in with the Jahova's Witness in the past. Please allow me to set up the scenario... this is totally true...

Anyways, I think it was during my junior or senior year in high school back in 91, or 92.

It is Christmas Day, my mother is in bed, and my father is supposed to be coming home from work. Jahova's Witness stops by and starts in with the "end of the world speech". Being a Baptist, I am nice to them, and tell them that I already belong to a church and am more than prepared for the Apocalypse. I take their pamphlets and the leave. An hour later, they come back, encouraging me to attend their church, once again, I am nice, I tell them I already belong to a church, so they once again hand me yet another pamphlet, and I am hoping they do not come back, especially considering this is Christmas Day. Well, low and behold, they come back again, no less than a half hour later, and at this point, I let the doorbell ring more. I don't know why, but I immediately took off all of my clothes and answered the door stark naked. I tell them: "I am taking a shower, what do you want now?" At this point they make a mad dash for the car and never return. It was a sick tactic, but it worked. I don't know about you guys, but anyone who is too forcefull, immediately turns me off, and nobody who lived in my house at the time, was angry at me for what I did.

We never heard from them again.....ever!

Nice one, i wouldn't go that far. But it depends, if they kept bugging you then why not. :p

•-BLaCKouT-•
05-18-2003, 10:34 AM
I'm usually too busy hacking people up online to get up and answer the door, so my girlfriend gets it and then comes through, giving it "bloody Jehova's Wintnesses again!" :( I'd love to spend five minutes asking them some questions!

Like a mate at work says his Uncle is a JW. He doesn't really know much more about it but says his uncle gets Easter off work. I thought they didn't believe that Christ was born in the first place? How can they justify taking time off work to mark his death? :confused: There may of course be an explanation for this, but that's why I want to talk to them.

Groovy's post reminds me of a Top-Tip I read once in Viz:
Convince house-callers you are insane by answering the door naked, eating s**t out of an ice-cream container with the words HELP ME carved into your chest. Watch them laugh as you reveal it was only a joke :p

Other than the above, I'm prepared to let them get on with whatever they want to do; so long as they don't bother me too much. We all know there are far more 'evil' ways to express one's devotion to a religion than knocking on people's doors. That's more irritating really :p

Peace, B.

Acrylic
05-18-2003, 12:30 PM
Well, at my sisters once, there were Jahova's Witnesses....And we ignored them, didnt answer the door. But, if the thing that happened to Groovy, happened to me, I'd scream at them and I'd say GET OUTTA MY [self removed] NEIGHBORHOOD!!!!!!!!! Or something along the lines of that, since I'm just 14 :rolleyes:

Rogue15
05-18-2003, 01:52 PM
I just tell them that I'm God. j/k never really had to deal w/JHs and i hope i never do, I believe that christ died for my sins, so if they bring on the 'you'll go to hell' speech i can just say 'let god be the judge of that' and close the door.

Datheus
05-18-2003, 02:49 PM
I find Christians (IE, Catholicism, Prodestant, etc) to be just about as pushy as Jehova Witnesses. Now, I've never had a confrontation with a Jehova, from what it sounds like, it's a lot like my confrontations with Christians. Now, while most Christians don't go door to door, when I infer that I don't believe in "God", that's when it gets heavy.

Sometimes I wonder if they really "care", or if they get a sales commision for converting us...

Rogue15
05-18-2003, 03:35 PM
hmmmm i'm a christian, i don't go around like a moron, trying to convert people...

Thrackan Solo
05-18-2003, 04:06 PM
Just to clarify, Jehova's Witness is not part of Christianity.

One day, I was home alone, there was a knock at the door.
A guy that looked like Hugo Weaving was standing there, started talking about something. I said no thank you, and proceeded to close the door, but he stuck his foot in between the door...I almost wet myself, made my peace with God, then he nonchalantly said,"Have a brochure." then left. Scared the Bejesus out of me.:eek:

C'jais
05-18-2003, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by Thrackan Solo
Just to clarify, Jehova's Witness is not part of Christianity.

They are. And so are Catholics, Mormons, Baptists and the KKK.

One day, I was home alone, there was a knock at the door.
A guy that looked like Hugo Weaving was standing there, started talking about something. I said no thank you, and proceeded to close the door, but he stuck his foot in between the door...I almost wet myself, made my peace with God, then he nonchalantly said,"Have a brochure." then left. Scared the Bejesus out of me.:eek:

That's when you should have taken his brochure and stuffed it in his mouth until he god-darned begged for mercy.

I'd probably have kicked the guy in the nuts, though, no need to be excessively violent.

Kain
05-18-2003, 04:20 PM
Well, I get hassled by Christians of all sorts...mostly JW.

Me and a friend seen them coming one day. They knocked on the door. I opened it. They smiled. I raised an eyebrow before screaming 'THE DAMN DICE ARE BACK IN THE WINE GLASS WITH THE POLAR BEAR SINGING ABOUT THE WAX OF THE OIL COOKIES THAT THE DANCING ELVES DROPPED ON THE DOG!!!'. The left. We laughed. I locked the door.

Thrackan Solo
05-18-2003, 04:23 PM
I hate it when other christians hassle people at there homes, no wonder why most people dont like us christians.

The Count
05-18-2003, 05:59 PM
Evil or Nice No pointless YES

Lunatic Jedi
05-18-2003, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by MydnightPsion
Me and a friend seen them coming one day. They knocked on the door. I opened it. They smiled. I raised an eyebrow before screaming 'THE DAMN DICE ARE BACK IN THE WINE GLASS WITH THE POLAR BEAR SINGING ABOUT THE WAX OF THE OIL COOKIES THAT THE DANCING ELVES DROPPED ON THE DOG!!!'. The left. We laughed. I locked the door.

Hmm... that sounds effective...

*Writes it down*

Evil Spock
05-19-2003, 12:55 AM
This is how I deal with Jehovah's Witnesses...

ES: Yes?

JW: Good morning, sir. We'd like to visit with you, and discuss our lord's mission on earth if you don't mind.

ES: Ahum, yes. Please make yourselves at home. I don't use furniture, but the meat hooks are comfy.

JW: Oh. Oh-kay...well, sir, have you ever read the Bible?

ES: My copy is illegible. I keep using pages from it to roll joints.

JW: Oh. Well, please accept this copy as a--HEY! You aren't supposed to eat it!

ES: Mmmm, but it smells of fresh primate. I so love primate. If you fellows are here later, perhaps you'd care to join me for a barbecue....

JW: AAAIIIIIEEEE-EEEEEE! *CRASH! run-run-run-run*

I haven't seen one on my street since. ;)

vlr

ZBomber
05-19-2003, 01:05 AM
Mmm.. They can be rather annoying, but I haven't done anything worth sharing. :(

El Sitherino
05-19-2003, 01:05 AM
tell them your busy having sex;) trust me they'll go away(especially if your a teenager)

munik
05-19-2003, 02:20 AM
I just tell them I'm not interested. I get a couple of them at the door every few months. No big deal. I'm not a big fan of lying, and I'm not afraid of confrontation.

ET Warrior
05-19-2003, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
tell them your busy having sex;) trust me they'll go away(especially if your a teenager)

:lol:

"could you guys come back later? Me and my girlfriend are having a little.........ya know......"

Sam Fisher
05-19-2003, 09:42 AM
They used to come out to my house a long time ago, but haven't seen them in a long time...

Evil Spock
05-19-2003, 10:06 AM
Another way of chasing off zealots...

1: With embarrassed haste, call out, "Y-yes?"

2: Simultaneously kick over a small endtable.

3: Baa like sheep.

4: If they knock again, answer the door naked.

:D vlr

STTCT
05-19-2003, 10:58 AM
STTCT full proof way of getting rid o JW

JW "Knock Knock"

STTCT: " KILL TOBY KILL"

WOOF WOOF SNARL SNARL

JW "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"




Toby is the name of my pitbull errrrm well actually he is a white puff ball pomeranian but he's still kinda scary....

Sivy
05-19-2003, 11:07 AM
you want a quick and easy way of getting rid of a Jehova's Witnesses?

answer the door and just say...

"i used to be a Jehova's Witnesses"

they will leave without a word and never come back.

this is because they are not permitted to talk to anyone who has left the 'order' or whatever they call it.

Clemme w/Stick
05-19-2003, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by C'jais
It'd be easier for them if they didn't try so hard.

Yea...!
I once had a run in with one of em.

I was on my way home from school, when an older lady stopped me and started to hand me some papers and stuff. I noded my head and smiled, and so on. When she left and got on my way I threw the papers into some1 yard and I've never seen them since...

I cant take em....Dont ask me why, I just cant.

-Clemme

Die Another Day
05-19-2003, 03:18 PM
Guys...

They came back!

Today, two of them showed up, saying "I believe we called several days ago? Have you had time to think about our cause?" The problem was, that was all they managed to say. I have been looking at some of your idea's on here, and so answered the door clutching a hardcore porn magazine and a can of Fosters lager. My flies were undone.

(By the way, it took me several seconds to round up these items, since I don't just have them lying around my house! The porn magazine belongs to my lodger, I promise you.)

The conversation was as follows:

*****

Jehova's Witness One - "I believe we called several days ago. Have you had time to think about... er..."

Jehova's Witness Two - "Oh my! Have you no shame?"

Me - "Me? No, I think I lost it in a game of poker."

Jehova's Witness One - "I'm sorry, but we really would like to talk to you about... erm... about..."

Me - "Oh, I am sorry! Where are my manners? Would you like a lager... or maybe you want to flick through this?"

I wave the porn magazine at them, my eyebrows raised in a sort-of 'well, go on, take it!' look. The first Jehova guy looks like he is going to be sick all over my doorstep.

Me - "No? Maybe you want to gamble, say, over a game of blackjack? I could try and win back my shame..."

Everything pretty much ended there and then. They bustled away down the street, muttering to themselves. The second Jehova's Witness glances back over his shoulder, and I wave politely before slamming my door shut.

*****

Oh, what fun! Cheers for the tales of sick jokes on those lovely Jehova's Witnesses. You don't think I took it too far, do you?

Jared
05-19-2003, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by Die Another Day
Okay, the other day, my doorbell rang. Not a regular thing, I can assure you. I was greeted by an old man using a walking stick, who looked very nice and started talking about the world's situation.
"Great!" I think. I enjoy deep, political discussions. Yes, I am patheticly beyond help.
It's after about 20 minutes of talking that I realise that I've been talking with a Jehova's Witness. As he starts his little speech about Jesus returning to Earth and sorting everyone out, destroying all war and famine, I switch off. After several well-placed smiles and nods on my part, he gives me a leaflet and leaves.

Which brings me to my question: do you listen and respond to Jehova's Witnesses? Do you answer the door and tell them to shove off? Do you smile politely and give some excuse ("I'm polishing my shotgun, do you mind?")? What do you do?

PS: No offence to anyone here who is religious, or who knows any Jehova's Witnesses, or is one themselves. This isn't a "Why do you hate religion?" thread, so don't insult anyone please. Keep it nice, guys!

OMG!!!! A few years ago, they just wouldn't quit ringing our doorbell!!! AHHHH!!! They better be glad I don't know where they live. ok ok. I have nothing against the religion, matter a fact I dont even know specifics about it...but they try to shove their religion down peoples throats! damn, get over it for once...
anyways....no offence meant to anyone, eccept for the people ringing my doorbell....hey STAY AWAY FROM MY HOUSE YOU CULT!!!!!:D :D
*hides, fearing assasination*

ZBomber
05-19-2003, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Die Another Day
Guys...

They came back!

Today, two of them showed up, saying "I believe we called several days ago? Have you had time to think about our cause?" The problem was, that was all they managed to say. I have been looking at some of your idea's on here, and so answered the door clutching a hardcore porn magazine and a can of Fosters lager. My flies were undone.

(By the way, it took me several seconds to round up these items, since I don't just have them lying around my house! The porn magazine belongs to my lodger, I promise you.)

The conversation was as follows:

*****

Jehova's Witness One - "I believe we called several days ago. Have you had time to think about... er..."

Jehova's Witness Two - "Oh my! Have you no shame?"

Me - "Me? No, I think I lost it in a game of poker."

Jehova's Witness One - "I'm sorry, but we really would like to talk to you about... erm... about..."

Me - "Oh, I am sorry! Where are my manners? Would you like a lager... or maybe you want to flick through this?"

I wave the porn magazine at them, my eyebrows raised in a sort-of 'well, go on, take it!' look. The first Jehova guy looks like he is going to be sick all over my doorstep.

Me - "No? Maybe you want to gamble, say, over a game of blackjack? I could try and win back my shame..."

Everything pretty much ended there and then. They bustled away down the street, muttering to themselves. The second Jehova's Witness glances back over his shoulder, and I wave politely before slamming my door shut.

*****

Oh, what fun! Cheers for the tales of sick jokes on those lovely Jehova's Witnesses. You don't think I took it too far, do you?

:rofl:

Nice one. :lol:

Darth Eggplant
05-19-2003, 03:51 PM
I am a magnet for religious types. I cant go anywhere without any and all of them trying to convert me. (just two weeks ago) I got something different a muttering filthy mad man suddenly grabbed me by the head and started shaking it (my head) yelling 'OUT Satan!" that was a first. I mean I am amused by it, I am on a bus, they are on a bus. they come up to me and ask me if I know who Jesus Christ was. My usual response is, hmmm let me see, white male, living in north america, part of a culture who embraces christian\judeaic\islamic beliefs. in the 20th century, now 21st, have I ever heard of Jesus? No who is he?

actually a great line gets said by Robert Diniro in Angel Heart.
great movie if you have not seen it you should.

anyhow the line more or less said. god made just enough religion
so that man could hate and not enough so they could love
something like that.

spirituality is really what matters and yet people get hung up on religion itself. certain native american indians believe there are many paths and many names for god, yet all lead to the same end.
depending on who you are, affilited makes a difference. If you are spiritual and willing to examine other belief systems you can appreciate other people and see and know where they are coming from.

if you believe their is only one god one faith one religion and the rest dont count, than this post will not matter.

religion is something only god for sure is going to be able to tell you, if it exists, and instead of fightingg with someone or making them feel bad, let those of any religion practice that religiom. but also make sure their beliefs do not encroach upon you and yours.

•-BLaCKouT-•
05-19-2003, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Die Another Day
You don't think I took it too far, do you?

LOL :p

no.

B.

Jah Warrior
05-19-2003, 08:46 PM
Jehova's Witnesses: Evil or Nice?

well they are ok, but i couldnt eat a whole one,

Dath Maximus
05-19-2003, 08:54 PM
i must admit im mean


i open the door, take one look, here them start there speech,

and *BOOM* i slam the door without warning

El Sitherino
05-19-2003, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by Jah Warrior
Jehova's Witnesses: Evil or Nice?

well they are ok, but i couldnt eat a whole one, jah you are a nut. :rofl:

another_trooper
05-19-2003, 09:05 PM
Evil or nice?
More like bizzare and annoying!
You just want to tell them f**k off!!, but being a nice person you cant say that!

Oh and good one DarthGroovy!:D

Skate Boy
05-19-2003, 10:10 PM
I just lost a lot of respect for a lot of people here. Practicly everyone in this thread.



And it's Jehovah's Witnesses.

Just in case you were wondering, I am one.


Think about this. We're humans too, and we don't feel good when you don't treat us mean. If you don't want to listen, tell us you're not interested, don't slam the door, cuss at us, just say "I'm not interested, please don't come back. It's very simple, you see.

@Datheus No, we don't get paid. It's voluntary.

@Dath, Thanks.;) :rolleyes:

@STTCT, I love finding people like you at the door.

@ munik, THanks, it's nice to know at least one honest person is here. I'm not being sarcastic.

Jah Warrior
05-19-2003, 10:23 PM
this thread would suit jais' senate better i reckon.

oh and skateboy, i have equal contempt for all religions, you aint being singled out...:D

Acrylic
05-19-2003, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by Skate Boy
I just lost a lot of respect for a lot of people here. Practicly everyone in this thread.



And it's Jehovah's Witnesses.

Just in case you were wondering, I am one.


Think about this. We're humans too, and we don't feel good when you don't treat us mean. If you don't want to listen, tell us you're not interested, don't slam the door, cuss at us, just say "I'm not interested, please don't come back. It's very simple, you see.

Well, I've lost a damn lot of respect for you too! :mad:

Nah, :p, j/k man. I dont mind you guys what soever, but the only thing I hate is when you guys try to CONVERT....I hate that. I'm Roman Catholic and damned proud of it.

Skate Boy
05-19-2003, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by AcrylicGuitar
Well, I've lost a damn lot of respect for you too! :mad:

Nah, :p, j/k man. I dont mind you guys what soever, but the only thing I hate is when you guys try to CONVERT....I hate that. I'm Roman Catholic and damned proud of it.

Then say you're not interested.

@Thrackan Solo, Did he really put his foot in the door.I'm not saying he didn't I'm just wondering.

Acrylic
05-19-2003, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by Skate Boy
Then say you're not interested.


Well, I do. I'm a nice person. They only "visit" us about once every 2 years. But if its frequent, then I'd eventually get mad.

Dath Maximus
05-19-2003, 10:42 PM
your welcome skateboy, besides, i slam the door on everyone
my own family too!

El Sitherino
05-19-2003, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Skate Boy
I just lost a lot of respect for a lot of people here. Practicly everyone in this thread.



And it's Jehovah's Witnesses.

Just in case you were wondering, I am one.


Think about this. We're humans too, and we don't feel good when you don't treat us mean. If you don't want to listen, tell us you're not interested, don't slam the door, cuss at us, just say "I'm not interested, please don't come back. It's very simple, you see.

@Datheus No, we don't get paid. It's voluntary.

@Dath, Thanks.;) :rolleyes:

@STTCT, I love finding people like you at the door.

@ munik, THanks, it's nice to know at least one honest person is here. I'm not being sarcastic. hey i was being honest aren't you gonna say thanks for being honest. i don't mind people and their beliefs just don't interupt my afterschool movies. even if you were freakin mother theressa i would tell ya to bugger off. only if you interupt my movie, otherwise i'll be nice and have a chat. im sorry my joke offended you.l i was just messin around.

El Sitherino
05-19-2003, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Skate Boy
Then say you're not interested.
sadly that doesnt work on the people here. i used to be nice to people even when they interupted my movie.

Jah Warrior
05-19-2003, 11:28 PM
lol my mum, a sunday school teacher, (dunno what denomination - its just god i spose)

she invites them in for a cuppa tea and a chat and tries to convert them.

hehe religion:- protection racket for the after-life, now give us all your money LOL

Loki GM
05-20-2003, 12:07 AM
there are probably two ways that I might awnser the door

one: they come and I say no thanks if they come again I say no thanks and if they come again I say let me get my dad and close the door and dont return to it

two: they come and I say let me go get my dad close the door and dont return if they start ringing the door bell so much that it gets annoying I return to the door and yell out WEINER!!!

but I dont think that there are that many if any Jehovah's Witnesses in WY

I dont think that people should try to get me to doubt my religion because I doubt it enough on my own

Kain
05-20-2003, 12:31 AM
The meanest thing I've ever done to ANY JW was I told my dog *Bumper* to attack him. He ran. The thing is, my dog comes a little bit above my ankles...so its not so mean except she will actually attack.

Pisces
05-20-2003, 12:41 AM
Nice, but...


Well, if I see one at my door, I try and get there before my dad ( he just tells them off)

Then, I wait till they start talking and invite into my porch. Once I've given them like 5 minutes, I start talking to them and try to convert'em to Catholics (jokingly of course, I don't take it seriously). Most say "thanks for your time and leave" some just walk out 'cause they know I'm mocking them.

'Course, where I live, we rarely get'em. So when I said most up above, it probably meant like 2 while some meant like 1. :D

SkinWalker
05-20-2003, 03:40 AM
Sorry Skate Boy, but unfortunately JW do not seem to accept "not interested." Instead, they return again and again.

It is apparent that, depending upon the response that one gives at the door, a JW is willing to either return or provide the address for another JW to return with another, perhaps more aggressive attempt to get the resident to join their cult.

So, armed with that knowledge, the only successful method of ridding oneself of JW "recruiters" is to be rude or utilize a ruse.

One of the absolute BEST ruses to employ was mentioned in an earlier post. Simply pretend to be a "former JW."

JW are not permitted to talk with or associate with disfellowshipped JW people. I've used this method on at least three separate occasions (at three separate residences) with good success. They don't even ask, "what happened" or attempt to bring me back into the fold. They simply leave.

Of course, I *do* like the suggestion of yelling "PENIS" until they leave! :D

Actually, Skate Boy, I'm a bit surprised to hear that you are a JW. I thought there certain... limitations imposed upon JW members about "associating with non-believers" (the Swamp is ridden with them) and "participating in risky activities." (i.e. skateboarding) ;)

What does Hannibal Lector call a Jehovah's Witness? Free delivery!
-- Jay Leno

I'm a Jehovah's Bystander. We's like the Witnesses, only we don't wanna get involved.
__- Flip Wilson

What do you get when you cross a devil worshipper with a Jehovah's Witness?
Someone who goes from door to door telling people to go to hell.

Jehovah's Witness Virus: Deletes all but 144000 select files.

Skate Boy
05-20-2003, 11:49 AM
Heh, I don't even skateboard. Most people know that here.

As for the non-believers...We live in a world with billions who don't believe what we do, that doesn't mean we don't go to the store to buy food. You guys don't believe what I do, I think we've established that fact, but neither does the guy that teaches me Guitar. You seem nice, which you have been. I don't know about you in real life, but here you guys are nice. I felt that you wern't "bad association" or whatever. I'm not going to stop coming because I know a little bit more about you, even if I don't like it. And I really hope that yuou won't act any different towards me because I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

•-BLaCKouT-•
05-20-2003, 01:34 PM
Hey Skate Boy, to go back to what I posted on page 1, do you guys actually to something for Easter? Or was my mate talking crap? Read the post and you'll see what I mean. Sersiously, I really am intrigued.

Like I said, personally what your religion is doesn't bother me, as long as you don't go blowing people up because of it, know what I mean? :(

B.

SkinWalker
05-20-2003, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Skate Boy
Heh, I don't even skateboard. Most people know that here.

Oops... there I go making assumptions again :D

Originally posted by Skate Boy
As for the non-believers...We live in a world with billions who don't believe what we do, that doesn't mean we don't go to the store to buy food.

Good point.

Originally posted by Skate Boy
And I really hope that yuou won't act any different towards me because I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Not in a million years.... I'm an anthropology student... it's in our nature to accept everyone's culture as equally valid.

Cheers.

Skate Boy
05-20-2003, 01:52 PM
Blackout, we get that a lot. We do believe that Jesus was alive and died for us. I don't know how people got the idea that we don't believe in him.

But no, we don't celebrate easter, but we can't go into work because no one else is in work that day. We don't celebrate Christmas either becasue We don't believe that Jesus was born in the winter time.

Skinwalker, thank you for not treating me different.

•-BLaCKouT-•
05-20-2003, 02:14 PM
Ah, okay cheers for that Skate Boy.

And what you said is fair enough, but yeah, it does seem to be a general belief (no pun intended) that JW's don't believe Jesus lived, that's just where I got it from I guess.

I freely admit my own ignorance of a lot of religious issues, because it doesn't really interest me. When I see the damage done in the name of religion, it kind of puts me off the whole thing. (Please understand, I'm not saying religion itself it damaging, just those who choose to misinterpret it).

Peace out,
B.

munik
05-20-2003, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Skate Boy
But no, we don't celebrate easter, but we can't go into work because no one else is in work that day.I work on easter. You and your friends can come work with me if you get a little bored. Might make for a conflict of interests, but it'd be fun.

Flanker
05-22-2003, 05:04 AM
I lost respect in this tread to mainly one person(no names mentioned)
'Just to clairify JWs are not part of Cristianity'
They are and so are Roman Catholics, Mormons, Baptist, and KKK
Typical strereotyping.:tsk:
("here are all the people i don't like)

The best way to get ride of a JW the keeps coming back is to know a little of their theology(144,000 elect, hevean plant+good-person planet+hell planet) and refute it.

Or if you want some fun, notice that they always come in pairs, one experiance(usually older) and one inexperianced. Ignor the older and ask all the hard questions of the newbie and propose some crazy idea and try to convince him of it. The mentor just goes crazy! pulls the newbie away, and you never see them again.

No more of this "I accept all cultuers, religions, whatever"
You don't You only ACCEPT your own. Such PC talk is only a lie.

Sorry Skate Boy if what i just said offends you but it's true. If you want to debate we can. (just be forewarned)

P.S. Skate Boy, any of this sound familuar? :confused:

Darth Groovy
05-22-2003, 05:45 AM
Originally posted by Skate Boy
I just lost a lot of respect for a lot of people here. Practicly everyone in this thread.



And it's Jehovah's Witnesses.

Just in case you were wondering, I am one.


Think about this. We're humans too, and we don't feel good when you don't treat us mean. If you don't want to listen, tell us you're not interested, don't slam the door, cuss at us, just say "I'm not interested, please don't come back. It's very simple, you see.

@Datheus No, we don't get paid. It's voluntary.

@Dath, Thanks.;) :rolleyes:

@STTCT, I love finding people like you at the door.

@ munik, THanks, it's nice to know at least one honest person is here. I'm not being sarcastic.

Crap this was bound to happen at some point. Sorry you feel that way, but I do have one question. What do you do when they don't take no for an answer? That is what drove me to extremities last time.

SkinWalker
05-22-2003, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by Flanker
No more of this "I accept all cultuers, religions, whatever"
You don't You only ACCEPT your own. Such PC talk is only a lie.


True enough, ethnocentrism is far more common than people wish to acknowledge, however, the difference between you and I (I suspect) is that I understand that I'm likely to evaluate another culture based upon my own. In so doing, I acknowledge that the only thing that makes my culture more valid is the fact that I like it.

Therefore all cultures become equally valid to me, even if I don't agree with the other culture. In that sense, they are also equally invalid.

It's not PC... it's enlightenment.

Skate Boy
05-22-2003, 05:20 PM
@Groovy, I say "Ok have a nice day." and I don't come back.

@Flanker, I would debate, but I'm not quite sure of what you're getting at.

Die Another Day
05-22-2003, 05:58 PM
Hey, Skate Boy, why do you think people will treat you differently now that they know you're a Jehovah's Witness (sorry about the spelling mistake in the thread title, but it's one of those words that you never really write down...)? I for one won't be looking at you in a different light: I mean, you still like cool stuff like "X-Men" and know how to have a laugh! Just because you are a Jehovah's Witness doesn't make you a different person.

I do wish, however, that I didn't tell that little story about the Fosters, porn magazine and the two Jehovah's Witnesses who visited my place... where is that big hole in the ground when you need it, eh?

Skate Boy
05-22-2003, 06:02 PM
Thanks for not looking at me different. And don't worry about spelling it wrong, it isn't something that many people know how to spell.


BTW, just wondering, but do any of you know who Jehovah is?

•-BLaCKouT-•
05-22-2003, 06:15 PM
Is he the Hebrew 'God'? Or is that my ignorance coming through again? :confused:

B.

El Sitherino
05-22-2003, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by Skate Boy
Thanks for not looking at me different. And don't worry about spelling it wrong, it isn't something that many people know how to spell.


BTW, just wondering, but do any of you know who Jehovah is? jehovah is the name of god. and its actually spellt IEHOVA (if you used real latin;) )

C'jais
05-22-2003, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by AcrylicGuitar
Nah, :p, j/k man. I dont mind you guys what soever, but the only thing I hate is when you guys try to CONVERT....I hate that. I'm Roman Catholic and damned proud of it.

Then don't ever try converting people yourself.

Do we agree?

Pisces
05-22-2003, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by Skate Boy
And I really hope that you won't act any different towards me because I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Just thought I'd add in, 'course not. One of my good friends is a Jehova's Witness actually. I have no problem with anyone of a different religion unless they try to push it on me, hard. Hell, any Catholics start telling me I'm not living as I should and I should be doing this and this and this and so on and so forth, I tell them off too. :D

So, yeah, I'm against anyone trying to convert unless the people they're talking to are actually interested...it happens.

Darth Groovy
05-23-2003, 03:00 AM
Originally posted by Skate Boy
Thanks for not looking at me different. And don't worry about spelling it wrong, it isn't something that many people know how to spell.


BTW, just wondering, but do any of you know who Jehovah is?

I won't look at you different, and I respect that you stand up for what you believe in. I hope you don't look at me any different either. I did not do that to those people because of thier religion, I did that because they would not leave me alone. I would have done the same thing, if they were selling encyclopedias. I don't like it when people get pushy. I did tell this particular pair of idividuals many times that I was not interested. The fact that they came back two more times the same day, got me a bit peaved, and the fact that it was on Christmas day of all days (my family still celebrates it on December 25), made it even worse.

Darth Eggplant
05-23-2003, 03:15 AM
"staying up late talking to dog so you don't have to."


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ET Warrior
05-23-2003, 03:25 AM
I have a question for you Skate Boy.....don't take offense, i've just been wondering this for a long time.....

Suppose that all the Jehovah's Witnesses in the world succeeded with a 100% success rate, and eventually the ENTIRE world was converted.....what would you do then? Because isn't the traveling converting business something that is a part of your religion? If everyone were converted would the religion have to change?

platypus202
05-23-2003, 03:51 AM
Is he the Hebrew 'God'? Or is that my ignorance coming through again?

Yep, that is your ignorance again. :p

Jehvoah (sorry for spelling) is i believe Gd in latin. I am Jewish and I speak fluent Hebrew.

Wanderer
05-23-2003, 04:48 AM
I'm convinced that everyone has the right of it's own believe. But what some of them are doing is not correct. They bother people....but some of them seem to be reasonable. I had a few years a conversation with one in our flat. When he asks me if he could visit me a second time, I said NO! Well...and he respected that and came no more...so noone till this day came at our door again.
Peace:D

Darth Rythe
05-23-2003, 07:23 AM
Today, two of them showed up, saying "I believe we called several days ago? Have you had time to think about our cause?" The problem was, that was all they managed to say. I have been looking at some of your idea's on here, and so answered the door clutching a hardcore porn magazine and a can of Fosters lager. My flies were undone.

(By the way, it took me several seconds to round up these items, since I don't just have them lying around my house! The porn magazine belongs to my lodger, I promise you.)

The conversation was as follows:

*****

Jehova's Witness One - "I believe we called several days ago. Have you had time to think about... er..."

Jehova's Witness Two - "Oh my! Have you no shame?"

Me - "Me? No, I think I lost it in a game of poker."

Jehova's Witness One - "I'm sorry, but we really would like to talk to you about... erm... about..."

Me - "Oh, I am sorry! Where are my manners? Would you like a lager... or maybe you want to flick through this?"

I wave the porn magazine at them, my eyebrows raised in a sort-of 'well, go on, take it!' look. The first Jehova guy looks like he is going to be sick all over my doorstep.

Me - "No? Maybe you want to gamble, say, over a game of blackjack? I could try and win back my shame..."

Everything pretty much ended there and then. They bustled away down the street, muttering to themselves. The second Jehova's Witness glances back over his shoulder, and I wave politely before slamming my door shut.

*****

Oh, what fun! Cheers for the tales of sick jokes on those lovely Jehova's Witnesses. You don't think I took it too far, do you?



That is FUNNY!!!!!!!:angel: :swear: :tsk:

ShadowTemplar
05-23-2003, 08:57 AM
I have had one run-in with the JW.

And one run-in with someone whom I believe was from Tvind (scandalized Danish socialist cult, whose heads are hopefully being put away for a looong time).

The lady from Tvind was soliciting funds for something called Humana-People-to-People. I seemed to recall it having something to do with Tvind, so I asked a few probing questions, which came out positive. Then I told her that I wanted to check up on her organisation's background, because I thought that they were the blokes accused of embeezlement of public funds. Didn't have any need, or for that matter right, to get rude, because it was on a public street.

The JW blokes came to my door and we had a little chat. I didn't quite realize what they were, but they gave me some leaflets, and I figured that they were from some organization, 'cuz the leaflets were pretty proffessionally made. I mentioned something about a school paper I had to write, and they said that they might have some stuff back home I could use. Then they left, and I flipped through the leaflets. Then I saw this ad for a book on how to save your marriage. And then I knew that something was fishy.

I found out from looking at the leaflet in more detail, that they had been JWs.

They returned, of course (I'd practically asked them to do so), but long after I was done with the schoolwork. Not that I'd have used anything from such an unreliable source anyway. I said (in a half-joking sort of voice) something along the lines of:

"Mum, it's the JW. Will you go get a bucket of water, or shall I?"

Then Mum came out to the door, and we told them that we didn't want to buy their wares. They left, and we haven't seen them again. Of course, if they ever showed up again, I think that I'd treat them to one of my long rants about why religion is evil and wicked and an enemy of the state and so on. And if that doesn't work, I might resort to the "renegade" trick.

Dunno what I'd do if the Nazis came to convert me. Call the cops, I think.

But overall, JW had better be careful. 'Cuz they're trespassing on private property, and doing unasked advertising (ie: Spamming). Both things are illegal according to Danish law. I sometimes wonder why the cops haven't looked into that yet.

Skate Boy
05-23-2003, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
jehovah is the name of god. and its actually spellt IEHOVA (if you used real latin;) )

Yes, It's god's name. I just wondered if anybody knew.


Originally posted by ET Warrior

Suppose that all the Jehovah's Witnesses in the world succeeded with a 100% success rate, and eventually the ENTIRE world was converted.....what would you do then? Because isn't the traveling converting business something that is a part of your religion? If everyone were converted would the religion have to change?

To answer that, would take a while, I'd have to explain our beliefs, and I doubt you people here want to know. i you really want to know, next a Witness comes to the door, ask him.




:D

ET Warrior
05-23-2003, 03:14 PM
But i hardly EVER have jehovah's witnesses come to my door.....like........never......so how am I going to ask them?

Skate Boy
05-23-2003, 05:21 PM
Look them up in the phone book.:D

Darth Eggplant
05-23-2003, 05:40 PM
people come down hard on JW's to me anyone in any religion, well that's their pidgeon. I won't judge you SkateBoy. can't promise mnot to mock you cause I mock everyone. but I mean even if you try to convert me, well, you can try. anyhow I live nowhere near any JW's that I can tell. I am surrounded by Mormons. all those 'elders' in groups of 2 trying to convert me. and Toronto has the 'church of scientology' I kind of like krishna's bald heads, cool orange robes. they don't partake of caffine though, don't think I couls stand giving up soft drinks. I am still saddened by the fact that coke a cola hires rabbi's to bless and make kosher cola before it leaves the factory. I don't think that's right at all. they make a product that rots teeth and adds fat and subtracts days from your life, and they are not worried about that, but turning holy cola into house hold wine is worth spending time on. anyhow Skateboy religiopn like politics make for heated disscussions, so don't judge and to avoid that don't post about religion. now one on forum needs to know your religious, political or sexual preferences. there is enough ...stuff out there to cyber chat about. a religious forum is a good place for theology. lucas is about X Box and other gaming\computer technology.

Skate Boy
05-23-2003, 05:56 PM
I don't post in Religion Threads, but when there's one with people battering my religion, I felt I needed to post in it. I do try and avoid other Religion threads, though.

Acrylic
05-23-2003, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by C'jais
Then don't ever try converting people yourself.

Do we agree?

Whoever said that I'd try to convert anybody?

Flanker
05-24-2003, 05:59 PM
@Skate Boy- what i'm getting at is that from what i have studied and learned about JWs is that their belief system is deception, and on that point i will debate with you.

P.S. i agree that Jws are humans, though not without the common delusions of gradure.

To SkinWalker
True enough, ethnocentrism is far more common than people wish to acknowledge, however, the difference between you and I (I suspect) is that I understand that I'm likely to evaluate another culture based upon my own. In so doing, I acknowledge that the only thing that makes my culture more valid is the fact that I like it.

Therefore all cultures become equally valid to me, even if I don't agree with the other culture. In that sense, they are also equally invalid.

It's not PC... it's enlightenment.
Claiming that you accept all things is based in political correctness, the fear of imposing your culture on another, and true enlightenment, if it exist in any form, can only come from the Bible unaltered, unlike both the versions the Mormons and JWs have.
On another note, ones culture cannot both be valid and invalid at the same time, as you have proposed. All cultures are not equal, consider any other beside the primitive tribes the live in South America, yet all still cling is some fashion to the absolute truths, such as murder is wrong, that they originaly started with at the begining of time.

P.S. "enlightenment" is a lame excuse to get people to leave the falacies of your worldveiw alone.:snip2:

ZBomber
05-24-2003, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by Skate Boy
I just lost a lot of respect for a lot of people here. Practicly everyone in this thread.



And it's Jehovah's Witnesses.

Just in case you were wondering, I am one.


Think about this. We're humans too, and we don't feel good when you don't treat us mean. If you don't want to listen, tell us you're not interested, don't slam the door, cuss at us, just say "I'm not interested, please don't come back. It's very simple, you see.

@Datheus No, we don't get paid. It's voluntary.

@Dath, Thanks.;) :rolleyes:

@STTCT, I love finding people like you at the door.

@ munik, THanks, it's nice to know at least one honest person is here. I'm not being sarcastic.

Sorry if anything I said upsetted you. I never do anything meaqn. I jsut say, I'm not interested. And, about laugjing about what Groovy did. I would have laughed if he did that to anyone, so don't take it pearsonal. ;)

Acrylic
05-25-2003, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by ZBomber
Sorry if anything I said upsetted you. I never do anything meaqn. I jsut say, I'm not interested. And, about laugjing about what Groovy did. I would have laughed if he did that to anyone, so don't take it pearsonal. ;)

Mmmhmm....
Well, I dont know. I just dont have too much respect for religions that try to convert me. Its fine if they talk to me once or twice, but If I say no, and they keep coming back, I would definately get mad.

Darth Rythe
05-25-2003, 12:57 AM
"would you like to learn about god?"
answer with a cheery,
"NO!"

Acrylic
05-25-2003, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by Darth Rythe
"would you like to learn about god?"
answer with a cheery,
"NO!"

Yes. What I'd say. I have MY beliefs and NO ONE, and I repeat NO ONE will change them.

Darth Rythe
05-25-2003, 01:05 AM
Yes. What I'd say. I have MY beliefs and NO ONE, and I repeat NO ONE will change them.

TRUE!


By the way I like your profile’s music.

Acrylic
05-25-2003, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by Darth Rythe
TRUE!


By the way I like your profile’s music.

ooooo.... Thank You. :)

Darth Rythe
05-25-2003, 01:09 AM
No problem.:)

Father Torque
05-29-2003, 09:30 PM
Once at my moms work (She works at a place for seniors called covenant shores) for christian (mostly) seniors to have a place to live or have medical treatment. Ok back to the story, a jehova witness went into the nursing facility and started talking to the residents about his beliefs and tried to bring them to his side. The pastor of the episcobal church on the island i live on saw this and asked the guy to leave. He wouldnt and started talking to more residents finally he got so mad he hit the guy in the neck and called security and the guy was fined.

Also my neighbor who lives about a block away(well not really neighbor) is a jehova witness. Once one came and he started talking about stuff then I pretended to call 911. But I dialed 910 and he started screaming and he ran away:D

Acrylic
05-30-2003, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by Father Torque
Once at my moms work (She works at a place for seniors called covenant shores) for christian (mostly) seniors to have a place to live or have medical treatment. Ok back to the story, a jehova witness went into the nursing facility and started talking to the residents about his beliefs and tried to bring them to his side. The pastor of the episcobal church on the island i live on saw this and asked the guy to leave. He wouldnt and started talking to more residents finally he got so mad he hit the guy in the neck and called security and the guy was fined.

Also my neighbor who lives about a block away(well not really neighbor) is a jehova witness. Once one came and he started talking about stuff then I pretended to call 911. But I dialed 910 and he started screaming and he ran away:D

Mean....but effective. If they definately WILL NOT leave, then, I see using other methods to get rid of them appropriate.

BongoBob
05-31-2003, 12:53 AM
I my self am a JW, but it's guys like you people that make me love greeting people at the door.

Acrylic
05-31-2003, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by BongoBob
I my self am a JW, but it's guys like you people that make me love greeting people at the door.

Sarcasm I suppose? :p

EDIT- If you dont know what I'm talknig about, I mean by the "it's guys like you people that make me love greeting people at the door."

BongoBob
05-31-2003, 02:25 PM
Sort of. But I have had a few experiences where people answer the door naked:eek:. One time, when I went door to door, one person who didn't like JW's answered the knock without opening the door, and said,"GO AWAY, I"M FRIGGEN MASTURBATING TO A PORNO MAG HERE!!!"We knew he really wasn't, but it was just funny.:D

Acrylic
05-31-2003, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by BongoBob
Sort of. But I have had a few experiences where people answer the door naked:eek:. One time, when I went door to door, one person who didn't like JW's answered the knock without opening the door, and said,"GO AWAY, I"M FRIGGEN MASTURBATING TO A PORNO MAG HERE!!!"We knew he really wasn't, but it was just funny.:D

:lol:

ZBomber
05-31-2003, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by BongoBob
Sort of. But I have had a few experiences where people answer the door naked:eek:. One time, when I went door to door, one person who didn't like JW's answered the knock without opening the door, and said,"GO AWAY, I"M FRIGGEN MASTURBATING TO A PORNO MAG HERE!!!"We knew he really wasn't, but it was just funny.:D

:lol:

You should have said: "Could I borrow it when your done" and wait in his house! :lol:

Skate Boy
05-31-2003, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by BongoBob
I my self am a JW, but it's guys like you people that make me love greeting people at the door.

I thought I was the only one here. It's nice to find another Witness.:)

BongoBob
06-01-2003, 03:23 AM
Same here, I knew I couldn't be the only one here.
:D

Death_Jedi
06-01-2003, 04:40 AM
Haha me and a friend saw one of them walking down the street going to peoples doors, we made up a plan before he got to ours,
he knocked on the door,i started saying everything backwards "?ih tahw eht kcuk od ouy ?tnaw" (and if they say wats up with you slap out of it or somthing witch he did) You need an empty Tic Tac box , i pulled it out of my pocket not letting him see it and put it up to my neck and cracked it with my hand turning my head at the same time (it sounds like you are cracking ya neck real hardcore) then i said in a big demon Voice "Get Out of my house"
then he gave me a strange look and walked off :D

BongoBob
06-01-2003, 05:05 AM
LOL People like you death jedi, people like you.:D