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Jaden007 09-18-2003 02:36 PM

kyles lightsaber
 
what lightsaber do you like best? Kyles Green (jk) or Blue (JK2)


I liked the color green better but you had more moves with the blue. Whatta you think? BLUE OR GREEN?

Sivy 09-18-2003 02:45 PM

blue, cause it matched the color of his eyes and the green clashed with his tunic... er... i mean..

*runs*

|GG|Carl 09-18-2003 03:26 PM

Green is better.

If kyle would have had a green saber in JO, it would have been very cool...

Jaden007 09-18-2003 04:27 PM

I did have green in JO you do the SABERCOLOR "color" w/o the quotes
but you have to do devmap 1st

TK-8252 09-18-2003 06:01 PM

In Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy, Kyle should still use Yun's yellow Lightsaber. I don't know why he didn't in JO like he did in MotS.

Nemios 09-19-2003 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TK8252MJL
In Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy, Kyle should still use Yun's yellow Lightsaber. I don't know why he didn't in JO like he did in MotS.
When Obi-Wan lost his saber in EpI against Darth Maul he didn't keep the one from Qui-Gon. In epII we see him with its own rebuilt from scratch. Kyle probably did the same and in facts in Mots he has an orange saber.

After his failure as a Jedi he probably throwed away his orange one and started to train as a student at the academy with a new blue lightsaber, the one he left to Luke after deciding he would never be a good Jedi.

That's just a theory ;)

TiBo 09-20-2003 01:55 AM

The green one is way way way way way cooler then the blue one. Because green is my favourite color, and blue isnt good for kyle.

Jaden007 09-20-2003 11:49 PM

actually he put his green lightsaber away and vowed he would never use it again (after MotS) but in JK2 he went back and found it and it was BLUE to bad.....liked green better, But jk3 you arent even Kyle you are a created student and choose your saber and are a student of Luke and Kyle

govf_5k 09-21-2003 01:57 PM

none
 
He put away yuns yellow saber didn't he??:confused:
anyway green is cool when you have been playing with
blue the whole game but going back to blue after playing for
long time with red of something:atat: all in all green is better:fett: :duel:

SpaceButler13 09-21-2003 10:37 PM

I think they chose blue just because if you try out the colors with the swings, it leaves the cleanest trails for whatever reason.

Shotokan 09-22-2003 06:31 AM

Guys... Boc destroyed his green saber...

[edit] Played JK a bit and have seen that Yun's saber is infact, yellow (my mistake). BUT in MotS, the saber is orangish in color. Possibly some continuity mishap?

Wes Janson 09-22-2003 07:02 AM

Yun had a yellow/gold saber. It wasn't orange. Regardless, I had always assumed that he used Yun's saber in MotS... Ah well..

Here's what I think: Kyle still used Yun's saber in MotS, despite the slight change in color. In-between the events of JK and JKII, Kyle seems to have been doing nothing but making a living and running jobs for the New Republic. Building a lightsaber takes dedication and time, two of something I don't think Kyle really had at the time. Especially after his touch to the dark side in JK's events, I think he's tried to concentrate more of his time elsewhere rather than cultivate his Jedi abilities (at the risk of failing).

But as a precaution, he probably kept Yun's saber handy as a rememberence of sorts for the Jedi who gave his life to save his.

And of course when Mara entered the picture, she was a half-assed Jedi the same as Kyle; and she didn't want to rehash her dark endeavors again, either. Very common ground. But what's natural for two half-assed Jedi to do? Give each other some tips and tricks. And ice-breaker. And for all we know, Mara could have helped Kyle repair Yun's saber after some kind of malfunction or jewel short (hence the color change). After all, she's no stranger to lightsabers and their maintainence (and this is where I say that the MotS broke continuity by giving Mara a purple saber instead of blue, as she uses Luke's father's saber, not her own.....).

After the events of MotS, I'd still have liked if Kyle used Yun's saber just as an added link to the past games. But the writer for JO said that they had to use blue for "Georgian Continuity" (that's my term for what Georgie boy says is SW movie canon, not EU). The good Jedi always use blue/green, the dark use red. So Kyle has to have a blue saber for story purposes, one way or another.

So there are a couple of things that could have happened here. One, Kyle destroyed Yun's saber after his harrowing scuffle with the dark side in MotS, using a Sith saber in its place. Or, to put things right, he returned Yun's saber to it's rightful place as a memorial for Yun (probably at the Vally of the Jedi at or near the carving).

In any case, he did what Mara couldn't pull herself to do and went to Luke for guidance so that he wouldn't fall to the dark side again. He went through the riggors of training, putting all of his personal affairs on hold. He built a lightsaber, learned to channel in the good, and not the bad... But he obviously gave it up, either because he didn't want to chance falling back to the dark side, or he just plain needed to go out and make a living (he never seemed like the kind of guy who could settle down and be a student...) So he gave Luke the saber and went on his marry way, fooling himself into thinking he could just forget about his past and his inherent abilities with the Force.

And then Jan is "murdered" (*wink*wink*) and he runs back to Luke for his saber to exact revenge. You all know the story.

Anyway, that's my take on this. But me not being a total stickler for continuity, I changed both JO and JA to have Kyle using a golden lightsaber (Yun's) despite the likelihood of him having built another. Hey, if Mara can kick arse with Anakin's saber, why can't Kyle do the same with Yun's? Now if only I could find Yun's actual hilt to put into the game, I'd be set with that...

Pedro The Hutt 09-23-2003 04:17 PM

From what I hear MotS is treated as a "what if story" and has never been really been included in the life story of Kyle. (that and seeing that MotS was about 5 years after JK , it really sort of took place where JKII did)

Wes Janson 09-23-2003 06:26 PM

I heard different. I remember some kind of interview or explination from the writer of JO, and he said that MotS actually happened -- and it did so before before JO.

Sam Fisher 09-23-2003 06:39 PM

I like his Blue one better. It fits him.

Damar Stiehl 09-24-2003 02:16 PM

If you go by the "Knights of the Old Republic" interpretation, which is now semi-canonical:

Blue is the color of Jedi Guardians (sabre masters)
Yellow is the color of Jedi Sentinels (fighter/mages)
Green is the color of Jedi Consulars (Force masters)

And of course, Purple is the color of Jedi Pimps.

Seeing how Kyle was throwing all sorts of Force powers around, green is more fitting for him I think.

AJL 09-25-2003 04:46 AM

blue is better than green...

because green effect is somehow less transparent
(doesn't look clean) In the game i mean...

Shotokan 09-25-2003 06:45 AM

I wish the green saber looked cleaner in game... IMO green suits him better.

lotr-sam0711 09-28-2003 08:58 PM

I wanted yellow, not blue everyone has blue(Like Luke,Obi Wan,Kyle IN KJII,Who knows how many in AOTC....):P"".

Arán 10-01-2003 05:09 PM

I wanted green in JO but instead they chose blue *amn
So i cheated to get green:p

shukrallah 10-01-2003 06:30 PM

I dont know, but the green looked great in Dark Forces II... but in JKII the green looked out of place sort of, at least with kyle. The blue looked better.

Jaden X 10-11-2003 06:20 PM

If you haven't remembered, Kyle used almost all colors of sabers (every single one except red and purple)...

And BTW, I haven't played KotOR and I don't know english THAAAT much. What's a "pimp"?

MasterN64 10-12-2003 01:15 PM

i am going to have to say a double-blade saber with green and blue, or maybe a dual saber with green and blue. I cant make up my mind!!!!! I have been pondering about this for 10 min. So i think double or dual saber is best.

Crow_Nest 10-13-2003 09:58 AM

i say blue :cool:

Kurgan 10-16-2003 04:12 PM

I played the whole game of JK2 with an orange saber, because that's what he had in MotS, and since the events of MotS lead up to the events in JK2, it only made sense that he'd use that instead of making a brand new saber then giving it to Luke and giving it up.

In JA I have him using the same orange saber again.


The history of Kyle's sabers:
(spoilers from the JK series)
spoiler:


Green saber (originally possessed by Yoda, given to Qu Rahn for safe keeping, he gave it to Morgan Katarn, who put it in WeeGee to save it for Kyle).

Destroyed by Boc.

Yellow saber. Yun dies saving Kyle's life, because "a Jedi deserves a battle." Kyle takes the yellow saber and uses it to defeat the last three Dark Jedi and fulfills his mission, staying true to the Light Side.

Orange Saber. Not stated, but sometime after the events of JK1, and prior to the events of Mysteries of the Sith Kyle likely constructs his own lightsaber, with an orange blade. He uses it to train with Mara Jade and accomplish many missions for the New Republic. When he almost uses it to kill Mara under the influence of the Dark power of the Sith Temple on Dromuun Kaas, he gives it up, vowing to avoid temptation by giving up the Jedi way.

Blue Saber (not explained, non-in-universe read-between-the-lines explanation is that the new saber colors canon policy prevented Raven from using any colors but green or blue, and since green was already used, they chose blue for aesthetic reasons). This is the saber he gives to Luke, so if we take it at face value he gave up the Orange one and then constructed a new Blue one then gave it up as well. Taking the story as its been going, we can probably assume that they would have used the Orange one if they could have.

Even if we assume that MotS was an anomaly (no reason to, since the events of MotS directly lead into the events of JK2), he still should have Yun's yellow saber.

So the blue saber continues to be the one that Kyle uses today, newly reclaimed in his mission in JK2, motivated by his desire to seek revenge against Desann and Tavion. But the way I play its still his orange one.

Spazz 10-17-2003 08:20 PM

i gotta go with blue on this one...it just looks better than green.

Bladestorm 06-08-2010 07:46 AM

Kyle Katarn's Lightsabers:
Green saber: Kyle got this from Rahn, who gave it to Morgan Katarn to pass on to his son. Morgan hid the weapon in the droid Weegee, who also had the ability to decode Morgan's secret message.
Yellow/Orange saber: "He is a jedi. He deserves a battle." These were the last words of Yun. Since Boc had destroyed the green saber, Kyle was forced to use Yun's blade which is yellow. The blade was used til' after Mara brought Kyle back to the Light Side. I think the creators of MOTS did something wrong because the blade is orange and Mara's is purple which really is supposed to be blue. It was Anakin's lightsaber originally but it kept getting passed on. Kyle, who was afraid of turning to the Dark Side, gave up the yellow blade and became a smuggler.
Blue saber: This weapon was forged after Kyle decided to become a jedi once again. It served him for the rest of his life. (Not that he died anyway)

Overall, I think the blue blade is the best because it was truely his. He created it and that made it better. Just like Luke's green saber. Luke felt his saber was better for him than his father's.

Darth Stryke 06-16-2010 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladestorm (Post 2729787)
Kyle Katarn's Lightsabers:
Green saber: Kyle got this from Rahn, who gave it to Morgan Katarn to pass on to his son. Morgan hid the weapon in the droid Weegee, who also had the ability to decode Morgan's secret message.
Yellow/Orange saber: "He is a jedi. He deserves a battle." These were the last words of Yun. Since Boc had destroyed the green saber, Kyle was forced to use Yun's blade which is yellow. The blade was used til' after Mara brought Kyle back to the Light Side. I think the creators of MOTS did something wrong because the blade is orange and Mara's is purple which really is supposed to be blue. It was Anakin's lightsaber originally but it kept getting passed on. Kyle, who was afraid of turning to the Dark Side, gave up the yellow blade and became a smuggler.
Blue saber: This weapon was forged after Kyle decided to become a jedi once again. It served him for the rest of his life. (Not that he died anyway)

Overall, I think the blue blade is the best because it was truely his. He created it and that made it better. Just like Luke's green saber. Luke felt his saber was better for him than his father's.

Mara's saber wasn't the wrong color. Mara was using her own lightsaber at that point, MOTS took place before Luke gave her Anakin's lightsaber. Mara has owned and used a few sabers in her day.

As for Kyle, I guess he had The green one then the yellow one which were given to him. After he became and Jedi and killed Jerec, he built a new saber to this effect, the orange one. After his skirt with the dark side in MOTS, he wanted to rededicate himself to the light side and built a new lightsaber which was blue. He then chose to give it to Luke as explained in JO for whatever reasons as he obviously found he wasn't quite ready still for the life of a Jedi.

-=*Raz0r*=- 06-16-2010 11:00 PM

He was so bad-ass with his green saber, but his outfit in JK2 goes better with blue.
Plus the new graphics engine and all..

Gamma097 07-26-2010 06:36 PM

I haven't played any of the older Jedi Knight games, just Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy, so I voted blue.

DeadYorick 08-15-2010 11:39 PM

Dayum this thread was started in 2003.

Ontopic I preferred when he used Yun's lightsaber.

MountainDew_JKG 08-17-2010 05:12 PM

Green for sure, it fits with skin/clothes

katanamaru 08-17-2010 11:41 PM

I'll say that I'm happy with the blue saber. Even if it is kind of complicated to trace his lightsaber's history.

So many different theories. :S

irish_texan 06-09-2011 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damar Stiehl (Post 1316689)
If you go by the "Knights of the Old Republic" interpretation, which is now semi-canonical:

Blue is the color of Jedi Guardians (sabre masters)
Yellow is the color of Jedi Sentinels (fighter/mages)
Green is the color of Jedi Consulars (Force masters)

And of course, Purple is the color of Jedi Pimps.

Seeing how Kyle was throwing all sorts of Force powers around, green is more fitting for him I think.

perfect summary, i agree completely. and yes, mace windu is a total pimp, hahaha.


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