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Glaive v.1 11-05-2003 06:40 AM

Yoda on Dagobah
 
I was just wondering if any one has got any info on why yoda would go to live on Dagobah after the fall of the jedi.

Sivy 11-05-2003 07:51 AM

yoda needed somewhere to hide and dagobah was perfect.
because with the abundance of life-forms and the presence of the dark-side in the cave, yoda becomes undetectable.

STTCT 11-05-2003 10:18 AM

Well...Luke does say the famous line that the place looks familiar to him....

here's to hoping!

lukeiamyourdad 11-06-2003 10:31 PM

hmm... this could mean Padmé gives birth to him on Dagobah...

Maybe that's where Anakin makes his final jump to the dark side...it could explain the presence of the dark side in the cave.

wassup 11-08-2003 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad
hmm... this could mean Padmé gives birth to him on Dagobah...

Maybe that's where Anakin makes his final jump to the dark side...it could explain the presence of the dark side in the cave.

No, the dark side presence came from a powerful Dark Jedi/Sith (don't remember specificly which) that Yoda fought some time before even Episode 1. When Yoda struck down his opponent, the dark side energy was infused into a nearby tree/cave.

lukeiamyourdad 11-08-2003 07:45 PM

That's not cannon so it could be wrong...

Lord Siraious 11-10-2003 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad
That's not cannon so it could be wrong...
Please not that arguement again! Yes you have a point but the EU explaination is a very good one and fesible.

Pedro The Hutt 11-10-2003 12:55 PM

And for that matter, I'm still of the opinion that Lucas should take the EU in to concideration a tad more. And I do mean moreso than satisfying drooling fanboys by including a skimpy clothed Twi'lek Jedi that happened to be in the EU.

But ofcourse, I'm just a fan, the only way my idea would work would involve me being able to use the Jedi mind trick.

The Cheat 11-11-2003 01:30 AM

i dont see anything wrong with skimpy clothed twilek jedi

lukeiamyourdad 11-11-2003 07:49 PM

Lucas doesn't have to take the EU into consideration. He's the boss he does what he wants. He can litteraly destroy an EU interpretation if he wanted.

The EU explanation could be wrong. I mean who knows if there was a Dark Jedi there?
The explanation that Anakin goes to the Dark Side over there and Padmé giving there makes more sense.
It would explain why Luke felt that the place looked familiar.

MaceII 11-12-2003 01:44 PM

thanks for clearin that up whassup...sum of the misconceptions in plot were getting tragic...well highly speculative...do u have fifa2004 btw?

And u should all read the books that are set between Episode 3 and 3 for more pointers...Shatterpoint is currently out...it is a brilliant book...my opiinion of the starwaars genre was low and getting lower as far as the books were concrened...until i picked up shatterpoint..

i urge u ..go to book store and pic up the starwars books.....and read the first pages or somethin...Shatterpoint stands out. Big time..its master work..but its not for kids thas for sure.. defineitly agree with the author that its PG-13...

bUt what these books do will give u a much cleare understanding of the authors and wats goin to happen leading up to Episode III especially if u are like me and fine the gaps betweebn each star wars movie, quite annoying. Get the book


my threory on episode 3 will follow.

MaceII 11-12-2003 02:43 PM

My Episode III Theory
 
well maybe i should rename myself Mace3 ...lol


Anyway, don't u think it wud be far more interesting if episode 3 showed how galant Anaxkin really was as a jedi? We dont really see he's awesome skills in Episode 2, and i think its necessary to show and not leave it to the comics/games/books/cartoons too demonstrate....unless they do a Star Wars series.

Wouldnt it be much more confounding and entertaining if we find out that ANakin pretty much won it, or almost won the wars for the Jedi and almost crushed Sidious' plans thanks to the influence of Padme..but he turns to the darkside at one important event, the same event/shatterpoint he cud break the whole war, but also cement the Siths victory..and it is at that point he turns to the Darkside, losing the war for the Jedi and winning it for Sidious.

[Don't forget... Sidious orchestrates the clonewars...but it wud be intersting to know who he'd rather have win..i think he prefers the sepratists to win..that way he is in complete control...but it doesnt quite go according to plan..the sepratist movement is what is intentded to become the empire...more and more systems leave hte republic until it is no more..this way..SIdious automatically deals with his politician problem...but remmeber that this never happens...i think we will see Sidious' genius because he manages to pull it off using his less prefered and far more dangerous for him option of the two i.e. controlling the republic..this means that his influence or control is not complete..as up to episode 4 remember that the Death Star Commanders are puzzled how the Emperor wud control the senate without beauraucracy, that i can tell u is no Dictators first choice...the Emporor can finally do away with the Senate once the Death Star is complete..because no one will dare oppose him...before..that tho is an entirely different matter which is why the death star was so important...he is in controll..but not absolute control...this why i think...the clone wars is important..Sidious needs the seprartist to win..and Episode 3 needs to demonstrate what victory was won, and what was lost in what way to bring about the state of affairs in Episode IV...u have to rememebr the movies are fulcrum points...shatterpoints to be honest


The book Shatterpoint makes me realise something interesting as to what it actually means to bring balance to the force....and for those of u who think its a simple matter or light balancing dark in terms of numbers of jedi... forget it...altho it is remarkable that Yoda and Obi wan are the only two light siders left...and Sidious and Vader the only two dark siders wen we reach episode 4....but no chance on it been that simple...read shatterpoint.


what i WISH would happen is that the brave Anakin (who's credibility as the greatest Jedi still hasn't been demonstrated) who fathers Luke and Leia is actually frozen in carbooonite...because Sidious can't get rid of him or turn him...so Sidious has a Clone of Anakin whooom he got from the boy when he was small...or from the young adult and used the force/ or lack of it to accelerate its growth...its that Annakin that becomes the evil darth vader....I like that theory..although its idealistic, Anakin being killed wud be more realistic and his clone taking his place.

So much for wishful thinking...it won't happen...bbut if it did...i bet it will be a "didnt see that one coming did ya"

I wud like to see quality and ingenuity in the stoyrline and philosphy that will be displayed in episode in 3... I mean Shatterpoint as a book was brilliant...and it really raises the bar of speculative fictional writing especially as far as teh other Star Wars books are concerned...

Mr Lucas u have wowed us in visual and musical inginuity and creativity...now replicate it in plot and philosophy...

a brilliant Episode 3 , i mean a truly remarkable story line/ script dialogue and action sequences and animations etc...cud really be the thing that brings 1 and 2 to real focus...i.e. the things that save them from being a meaningless flop...and can really set focus for 4-6 and ameleorate it... Basically episode 3 needs to be the best.



My take...realistically...? We know it is 3 years after Episode 2...i say forget about Anakin killing all the Jedi as Darth Vader that will not be in Episode 3...the books/comics etc will tackle that one.. I think we will see the Emporor proclaim himself so..and we will see Anakin turn to the dark side...Padme may be klled and that may be the reason he turns but i doubt it because i think the twins will be born as well...but Leia vaguely remmebering her mother as told in Episode VI will be explained either because of JEdi sensing or b/c Padme actually survives which means Sidious misleads Anakin to believe otherwise possibly prompting the Darkside. Windu may die...but i hope for a better ending for him...and maybe we may just see How wise Obi Wan is and how good a general he really is..

You must read shatter point.

I'd like to see better lighsaber actioni..anyof u see Kill Bill? or Matrix? Now that is action fighting with super powers. From the way the actions sequences in the scenes are shot..u cant help but get the feeling that the Jedi wont stand a chance a.gainst Uma Thurman character of Kill Bill (who has no special powers) or THe matrix's NEo/Agent Smith/ in weapons combat espiclaly sword fithgint. THat needs to be redressed....AGREED?

LEt me get your comments on these tho.

Glaive v.1 11-13-2003 06:29 AM

I was thinking that if anakin turned to the dark side on dagobah, hebce the dark side presence in the cave wouldn't darth vader know where yoda was and have killed him there.

MaceII 11-13-2003 10:05 AM

It wud be cool if Anakin did try to take Yoda and got his arse kicked...that would be so cool

MaceII 11-13-2003 10:06 AM

Then Yoda will say a classic to Anakin. "Much to learn you still have"

lukeiamyourdad 11-13-2003 08:35 PM

Perhaps he did not know that Yoda was still there when he left...


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