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Mike Windu 01-21-2004 04:02 AM

My Friend Got STABBED!!!!!!!!
 
Ok, this really made me mad today: My friend Tim, African American, he and some chinese guy were getting mad and calling names, its normal for us to do that its just letting off steam no conflicts, but then the chinese guy drops the n-bomb!. So Tim starts beating the guy up, and the chinese guy whips out a pair of scissors and stabs Tim in the back of the head! I was like HOLY CRAP WTF:mad: ?!?

Anyway, our teacher told us 4th period (it happened around 1st period) that Tim was alright and that the scissors didn't penetrate very deep so he won't need stitches... as for the chinese guy... he's expelled... and some of tim's friends want some revenge... they wanna find out where he lives and... well you know the rest...

All is not well at Houston High School

Datheus 01-21-2004 04:16 AM

Well, then perhaps Tim shouldn't have gotten in a name calling match in the first place. After all, they were "letting off steam" and then Tim decided to kick this guy's ass. If he got stabbed, it was his own fault. The entire point of the exercise, as you put it, was for it to stay nonphysical. Calling someone a ****** has about the same ultimate effect as calling someone a poopoo head. They're words. Tim decided to make it physical.

You won't see me crying any crocodile tears for Tim.

ET Warrior 01-21-2004 04:33 AM

What Datheus said. You throw punches, you deal with the consequences


however, I do hope he is okay.

Kain 01-21-2004 05:08 AM

Yea, a friend of mine got stabbed. Cept he got messed up pretty bad(it caught part of his eye, but he recovered). The guy who stabbed him got a stomping like no other.

Weapon X 01-21-2004 05:15 AM

i've had friends who've been stabbed, shot at, hit by bats, hammers, axe handles, pistol whipped, had guns pointed at them over an argument, jumped, and just about everything else. you're buddy started the fight because he threw the first punch. i can tell you right now that if you go after that one guy, that's sad, the reason me and my friends were going to go after the guys who stabbed my friend is cuz he was just walking on the street and they jumped him, your buddy started a fight, there are no rules in fighting. if they're arguing they better be able to take what is given to them, why didn't "tim" just call the guy and chink, needle dick slanty eye or something like that? it's his own fault, i have no sympathy, especially since the situation is against him (by starting the fight) and i've dealt with it personally. if one of my friends starts swinging and gets his ass stabbed i'm gonna be pissed but me and my buddies aren't going to go kill the guy, we're gonna set up ANOTHER fight, where he's for sure going to have no weapons and lose. my friend got stabbed in the throat and BARELY didn't die, the blade scraped his trachea and pushed his main artery. imagine how mad I was when that happened. now stop and actually think about it, you're mad, it's understandable, but that's the way things happen in fights. if you go after that guy, that's one of the dumbest and most childish things to do "tim attacked that guy and got stabbed" read that carefully, TIM ATTACKED HIM, so just let tim and that kid go at it again in a fair fight or give tim a knife, but you're pathetic if you jump that kid

Swoosh 01-21-2004 05:17 AM

Sorry guys, fighting is a stupid behavior that doesn't benefit anyone. If you beat someone up, you're just spreading hate, not defeating it. The bigger thing to do would be walk away. You'd probably be surprised that you would be respected for not being an idiot and risking your life.

STTCT 01-21-2004 06:10 AM

Well as long as the bad people stab the bad people, I'll be safe. :eek:

Crazy_dog no.3 01-21-2004 06:28 AM

I think:
The Chinese guy should be punished, however revenge is NOT the way to go about it.
Ur friend should be punished too, although not as much as the "chinese guy", becuase it was after all your friend who started using voilence.

Pad 01-21-2004 09:35 AM

When will people learn that violence solves nothing? :rolleyes:

Sivy 01-21-2004 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pad
When will people learn that violence solves nothing? :rolleyes:
thats not true...

it was 13 across in the crossword i did yesterday

hehehehehe :D j/k


seriously though, people do need to learn how to control their tempers.

BawBag™ 01-21-2004 11:23 AM

In a stereotypical view of the U.S. (no offense intended) it's lucky the other guy wasn't carrying a gun.

BongoBob 01-21-2004 11:53 AM

Edit:NM< don't want to start a flame war around here.
Yeah, be the bigger men. Me and my friends at school have done this on several occasions. The thing is, there is nothing that they can say. Sure, they can talk smack, but they won't do anything. And if they still did, then I would jump him.

If I were stabbed though, I can see how he may wan't to KILL that guy though :|

STTCT 01-21-2004 12:01 PM

Let's not start with the racial things here - I don't want to see this evolve into a horrible argument.

Neither of them should be saying anything to eachother. Its obvious that racial slurs hurt people deep inside and there is no need to start "playing" around and trying to push eachothers buttons because you never know when you are going to push the wrong one :(

Alegis 01-21-2004 12:03 PM

This only happens in America!! I swear!

Just kidding

Your friend went berserk on him? Well he faced the consequences..though a scissor is way too much, but if he was weaker and you go berserk on him, what the hell was he supposed to do

MysticSpade 01-21-2004 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BongoBob
(Also to mean no offense)
How come a black person gets pissed when he is called a "N Word" by a white or mexican person(or in this case chinese person), yet black people call each other that all the time, and think nothing of it. A typical conversation heard at my school...
What's up my "n word".
What's up my "n word"
*white person*
What's up my "n word"
WHAT'D YOU SAY CRACKER!

I swear, it get's frickin tiring when I hear this EVERY DAY I GO TO SCHOOL.
[/rant]

ok here's the sad part.............i'm white, and i grew up in an all black town pretty much. i was put through hell through lower grades and once i got in Jr high some black dudes were messin with me so i went off on em. I was 5'4" 120 very athletic build, and i took 3 dudes down took a minute but i did it. after that i could walk up to any person (of African heritage) in my town and say wassa my Nigga and they wouldn't care. I've proven myself, plus it helps that i grew up the same way they did.........DIRT POOR. i'm packed now and i still think i am no better than anyone else no matter what kinda situation they're in.

BongoBob 01-21-2004 12:08 PM

I agree that racial slurs don't solve anything, and I did sort of rant, and for the sake of the thread(as well as not make any more enemies here), I will edit and delete that.
Mystic spade should edit his part that he quoted too.

Ray Jones 01-21-2004 01:09 PM

Re: My Friend Got STABBED!!!!!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mike Windu
..So Tim starts beating the guy up..
he began the fight. sorry to tell you that, but i hope your friend will learn from this. calling names is perhabs one thing. but starting a fight another. seriously he should be lucky that the chinese guy didnt pulled a gun.

and i think revenge wont make it any better nor is it justifiable since it wasnt the chinese guy who started the fight..

think about.

MennoniteHobbit 01-21-2004 01:21 PM

Well, I already knew about this, since u already told me Mike! hehehehe

as in our school, u get hit, u hit back, and u get in trouble.

Sam Fisher 01-21-2004 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MennoniteHobbit
as in our school, u get hit, u hit back, and u get in trouble.
Dangit, why is it the persone that punches back? It almost never is the guy that starts it... or something..

Sorry about your friend, but it really was his fault. :/

MennoniteHobbit 01-21-2004 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sam Fisher
Dangit, why is it the persone that punches back? It almost never is the guy that starts it... or something..

Sorry about your friend, but it really was his fault. :/

true, but school rules. ignore getting hit, which is hard, let an adult witness the fight, other guy get's in trouble. u see his angry face walking down the hall. hehehehe the ultimate dream

Crazy_dog no.3 01-21-2004 04:28 PM

I don't see what's so offensive about *gasp*:eek: the "n" word?

The only way it could cause offence is if it is used in a racist context .
Example: "What's up my ******?!" (not racist)

As opposed to... (racist)
spoiler:
Hey boys lets go outside and kill ourselves some ******s!

MysticSpade 01-21-2004 05:36 PM

honestly if you take the time to look up the n-word. the base definition is some one of low class.

which is why some black ppl will even tell you there are blacks and then there are n-ppl.

white ppl can be n-ppl too

DarkLord60 01-21-2004 08:56 PM

Well I do hope your friend is ok I do think he needs to react differently next time.

RoxStar 01-21-2004 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by STTCT
Well as long as the bad people stab the bad people, I'll be safe. :eek:
Yea, I'll join STTCT with this one. But I will be arounnd for cleanup.

Joetheeskimo 01-21-2004 10:41 PM

:wstupid:

Everyone above has said everything I wanted to say.

Guardian Omega 01-21-2004 10:45 PM

Ah, this is why I trained with weights, pretty much no one bothers me now..........:D

But seriously, provoking someone is not a wise move AT ALL.

Neverhoodian 01-21-2004 11:16 PM

One must ALWAYS try to gauge a person's tolerance level when communicating. What could seem as merely playful banter to one person may be considered as nothing short of a blow in the face to another person. Everyone has different tolerance levels for name-calling. Until you have been around a person long enough to know what he/she likes/dislikes, try to be as non-combative as possible.

As you yourself have witnessed, misunderstandings can become very ugly. The trick is that they don't have to be.

MennoniteHobbit 01-21-2004 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joetheeskimo5
:wstupid:

Everyone above has said everything I wanted to say.

We beat u to the punch, joe. I'm sorry. ;)

Mike Windu 01-21-2004 11:46 PM

I agree with Mystic, I did grow up in a mainly black town, and I do hang out with alot of black people, but then I hang around with white people and other people too... they just seem to accept me
thats what you get for growing up in the Dirty South.

See the point i'm trying to get across is... did you think the stabbing is too much?

For those of you who actually wonder if he's alright... yeah he is, and yeah he did start the fight, but damn some freaking scissors...

And nobody's gonna jump him he can fend for himself... one on one with whoever messes with him. Chinese guy's expelled so that should solve some things...

and I don't think the other guy was weaker either

topshot 01-22-2004 12:01 AM

I'm not trying to cause a flame war, but.......
 
(Now I don't want to set the forums ablaze, but here's my question and opinion.)

Pardon me, but WHY IS THERE SO MUCH VIOLENCE AND HATRED IN THIS WORLD?!?!?

It's good your buddy's alright, Mike, but starting a fight and trading punches or kicks with each other.......that's bad. Pulling out weapons........that's even worse. In a conflict such as this, no one wins and everybody loses, no matter whoever fought back or started the fight.

Personnally, if I was attacked with a sharp object, you can find me in the nearest tree......or running for my life. Whichever happens first.

ET Warrior 01-22-2004 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike Windu
See the point i'm trying to get across is... did you think the stabbing is too much?
Well, lets take, ME for example. I am pretty much a pacifist. I dont condone violence or believe it's right. But if some guy was attacking me I sure as hell would use any weapon I have at my disposal against him.

I think that they should both be expelled if anyone is expelled. The stabbing with scissors was self-defense, plain and simple.

It doesn't really matter if the chinese guy was weaker or not, your friend threw the first punch and in that scenario he has an extreme advantage in the fight.

Like I said. In that situation I'd use a pair of scissors if I had 'em

Sam Fisher 01-22-2004 12:24 AM

That's the royal question, eh? Well, its probably us and our stupidity/arrogance.

Hellfire Jedi 01-22-2004 12:36 AM

maybe its not such a 'cool' idea to 'blow' off steam at each other.

Mike Windu 01-22-2004 12:43 AM

heh, we talk about each other all the time, but i mean normally it ends with a hehe i'm just kidding and the others are like yeah me too handshake and a walk off and a c u... this time it wasnt.. thats pretty odd to me really... and as i later found out tim didnt do all the stuff people said he did he only slung the guy around... like up against a wall

Weapon X 01-22-2004 05:38 AM

i keep reading "it's lucky the guy didn't pull out a gun" i don't know how many guns people have ever seen, but, living in wyoming, i have a PRETTY good experience w/them. It's kinda hard to conceal a pistol in your pants w/o someone noticing, it'll make you walk different, change how you sit and basically change everything you do so it doesn't fall out. I also KNOW that half the people who pull guns out (around here anyway) won't use them, they just want to try to scare the person into backing down, i've had guns pointed at me before (by jr. high/grade school kids when i was in grade school) i was afraid but i didn't miss a beat in just walking towards the person "you better kill me with that first shot cuz if you don't i'm gonna be mad" and they backed down. it depends on the person who's pointing the gun, but honestly, not everyone who points a gun at someone is going to shoot them. i know from experience

STTCT 01-22-2004 05:46 AM

I live in CA close to LA. If someone points a gun at you - they usually shoot you. I'm not about to approach that person and "dare" him to shoot.

XERXES 01-22-2004 08:10 AM

heh, some stupid black people at a halloween college party came over to the house I was at. Threatened the owner for retarted reasons, a drunk skinhead (a hardcore one) started gettin in the black guys faces and what not callin em names (shouldnt have to elaborate) and his friend joined in. Black ppl shot em in the legs. I wasnt in the room I was in the basement downstairs but damn...

Ray Jones 01-22-2004 10:38 AM

"errm. sorry.. WHAT EARTH did you came from again??"
 
i guess it has nothing to do with "stupid black people" i guess it only has to do with "stupid people". because as i know it there were those three nazis and i looked into the gun of that one guy and i did nothing to cause that. and it was the 25th december. man.. not that this is of any matter, but i am so what of "nonblacklooking" and all that .. prrffftt.
later i met one of those again and he looked into my gun. i swear that crying young a**hole didnt even WANT to remember all the names he called at me a couple of days before. pah.

stupid humans..

ShockV1.89 01-22-2004 01:27 PM

If I get in a fight and it looks like it's not going my way, and I see a weapon sitting nearby, within reach... your damn right I'm gonna grab it and start swinging.

ET Warrior 01-22-2004 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Weapon X
i was afraid but i didn't miss a beat in just walking towards the person "you better kill me with that first shot cuz if you don't i'm gonna be mad" and they backed down.
wooow. what a badass.:rolleyes:


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