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keshire 02-28-2004 12:05 PM

Holstered Weapons...
 
Something OJP has been working on. And hopefully we can ge the backing of some of the popular Model makers.

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...2812816056.jpg

I added in a couple of new tags.

bolt_holster_saber
saber2
staff
blaster
&
launcher

Crow_Nest 02-28-2004 01:00 PM

It would be cool that we could holster our sabers/guns to our belt thingys :) :cool:

But the way the saber is holstered in that screen looks kinda weird.

keshire 02-28-2004 01:05 PM

I'm not the best at setting up and weighting. I was trying to avoid clipping issues. The theory is sound though.

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...4657628845.jpg
modview with all bolts used.

Crow_Nest 02-28-2004 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by keshire
I'm not the best at setting up and weighting. I was trying to avoid clipping issues. The theory is sound though.

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...4657628845.jpg
modview with all bolts used.

Whoa those holstered weapons look so cool! Great job :thumbsup:

Especially the staff :cool:

keshire 02-28-2004 01:19 PM

Quote:

Especially the staff
it was the only place I could put it.:D

We hope to have it show the weapons you have that do the most amount of damage and aren't in use.

So more than likely you'll always see the sabers holstered. And the rocket launcher if you have it and aren't using it, and aren't already using a staff.

At least thats what I'd like RazorAce to do. We'll see though.

Tinny 02-28-2004 01:41 PM

woah, thats cool. are you going to make a halo like system where you can only carry a certain amount of weapons at a time?

Kurgan 02-28-2004 02:15 PM

Maybe Force Pull should be able to yank weapons off your belt/outfit too?

Lightning 02-28-2004 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kurgan
Maybe Force Pull should be able to yank weapons off your belt/outfit too?
Then every one would just me stealing weapons all the time.

DarthMuffin 02-28-2004 03:03 PM

Hey, that looks really nice :D

Everything that makes a game for realistic is nice, actually.

And pull is a bad idea, IMO. There would be a lot of abuse.....

Azrael666 02-28-2004 07:41 PM

Would I be right in thinkin this means that in order to work all the games model.glm files need to be replaces? or can it work around that?

Looks very cool, though the lightsaber should attatch to the hip a bit lower if possible.

Also as a suggestion can you make it so that using two blaster pistols at once looks better? When I spawn CultistCommando one gun is held properly, the other is held at a very strange angle. It would be cool if openjedi could fix this.

Lightning 02-28-2004 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darth54
Hey, that looks really nice :D

Everything that makes a game for realistic is nice, actually.

if they would make it that holding a heavy weapon makes you walk slower afther a while like in darkforces we'll see if you think the same about it. :rolleyes:

Kurgan 02-28-2004 11:52 PM

Darkforces had weapons make you walk slower? I didn't know that!

I always somewhat dislike the idea myself because it struck me as illogical.

Why would holding a weapon make you walk slower if carrying it (in your backpack) wouldn't?

Though I suppose you could say that you have to "hold it steady" or something like that to justify making you move slower.

But then there's always Force Speed/Rage. ; )


The weapons on the clothes thing reminds me of the last two Indiana Jones games. In those you had the Machete on your back, gun in your holster, whip at your side, etc.

The only problem was that there were still so many weapons that it didn't show them all, only the more recent ones used (example: only one gun in the holster, only one big weapon on the back, and one on each hip).

Still, it was somewhat more realistic. I guess strategically that means you can't hide what weapons you're carrying, though somebody would have to get close to see exactly which ones.

I imagine the "lightsaber on the hip" thing would be a boon to roleplayers, though I wonder something...

Right now you have the "saber off" thing, but would the saber appear on your belt for saber off, or would it only do so when you've switch to something else (ie: gun, fists if its a mod that lets you use fists and saber together, etc)?


Even if it's not used in gameplay, something like this would certainly be useful in cutscenes and stuff like that.

[ASJN] Balboa 02-29-2004 01:49 AM

two probs: one is that it will impead with jetpack, the tails of the twi'lek and other models with capes and the like. second it will give admins an excuse to admin lame you if you don't have one holstered.

Crow_Nest 02-29-2004 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [ASJN] Balboa
second it will give admins an excuse to admin lame you if you don't have one holstered.
Heh, then there would be a new rule made. :D So is it gonna be an MP mod or both a MP and SP mod?

TK-8252 02-29-2004 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest
So is it gonna be an MP mod or both a MP and SP mod?
Heh, I asked this same question at another thread about this. Unless they can get the single player source code, it remains in multiplayer only. :(

razorace 02-29-2004 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [ASJN] Balboa
two probs: one is that it will impead with jetpack, the tails of the twi'lek and other models with capes and the like. second it will give admins an excuse to admin lame you if you don't have one holstered.
The system requires that you customize it per model (since each model is a bit different). Right now we're using new model tag surfaces to place the weapons, but are considering another possible way that would be done with an external text file.

keshire 03-04-2004 11:22 AM

It looks like we're going with the tag code after all. The code will be in and models will follow shortly, I'm the only one currently working on these OJP enhanced models so if anyone wants to volunteer please please please do so.

bolt_holster_saber
saber2
staff
blaster
launcher
and golan

Is what we're going with.

If the tag ain't there the weapon(s) associated with it won't show up. So if the Model has a cape You may want to leave the tags located on the back out. Or move it/them somewhere else that makes sense to you.

-=DarkZero=- 03-04-2004 01:43 PM

I'm just complimenting on the mod, It looks frigging sweeeet.

But I got nothing to say other wise.

keshire 03-05-2004 03:56 AM

Just a reminder this code will be available to all. Being OJP and all. So you coders may want to encourage the modellers to start incorporating these tags.

LukeKatarn 03-05-2004 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest
It would be cool that we could holster our sabers/guns to our belt thingys :) :cool:

But the way the saber is holstered in that screen looks kinda weird.

Sorry:band: but I have to dissagree with you I think it looks cool like this smiley:bdroid2:

-=DarkZero=- 03-06-2004 04:57 AM

Just a question, Willl player's be able to use this on any impure server, like skins, or will it be comming out as a mod?

keshire 03-06-2004 05:43 AM

A mod. But the source is available for any to use. Then its up to model makers to support it. OJP will be releasing some of the standard models updated to include this feature.

keshire 03-06-2004 11:01 AM

MMM, next model...Perfectly weighted. Luckily I learned some tricks from an old artist friend who got me into Multimedia. The fingers aren't done and I may need to tweak the tags. But here are the pics.

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...7095088394.jpg
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...5208214562.jpg
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...4277987441.jpg

Tinny 03-06-2004 03:32 PM

whoa, very nice man

Master_Keralys 03-06-2004 04:02 PM

Those look really sweet. Nicely done. I can't wait to see these in OJPE...

LukeKatarn 03-06-2004 08:05 PM

Re: Holstered Weapons...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by keshire
Something OJP has been working on. And hopefully we can ge the backing of some of the popular Model makers.

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...2812816056.jpg

I added in a couple of new tags.

bolt_holster_saber
saber2
staff
blaster
&
launcher

Whare do I download the mod?

TK-8252 03-06-2004 08:17 PM

Re: Re: Holstered Weapons...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by LukeKatarn
Whare do I download the mod?
It's not finished yet, just hold on. :)

LukeKatarn 03-07-2004 12:26 AM

Re: Re: Re: Holstered Weapons...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TK-8252
It's not finished yet, just hold on. :)
Ok thx.:D

Crow_Nest 03-07-2004 04:53 AM

Whoa man thats cool! Now i can be heavily armed with weapons like kyle in that screen :D

keshire 03-09-2004 05:22 AM

Quote:

It's not finished yet, just hold on.
Hopefully It ,as well as a few standard models, will be in the next release. Razor said he has the code done to support the tags. Its just a matter of model support now. I'm working as quick as possible though. Wish I had some help...

keshire 03-09-2004 08:01 AM

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...2260865377.jpg

I have the Max4.2 file, xsi, and model zipped up for any that want it to help with their own models.

I also gave it too Razor Ace to up to the OJP repository.

El Sitherino 03-09-2004 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by keshire
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...2260865377.jpg

I have the Max4.2 file, xsi, and model zipped up for any that want it to help with their own models.

I also gave it too Razor Ace to up to the OJP repository.

I believe ksk h2o wished to use this.

Quote:

Malak is NOT finished yet. I need to finish the shader, add weighing to the face, and add the bolts that make him compatible with OJP.
ah yeah, he did. You can see the thread here

LukeKatarn 03-09-2004 06:30 PM

Looking good I cant wait till this comes out!!!!!!!

keshire 03-10-2004 08:35 AM

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...5210840502.jpg
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...8860713349.jpg

Chewie with Launcher and Blaster tag only.

LukeKatarn 03-10-2004 11:12 AM

Looking real good!

Crow_Nest 03-11-2004 05:06 AM

GooD! Very good!

This must be the first holsterlered weapons mod since jk2!

razorace 03-11-2004 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest
GooD! Very good!

This must be the first holsterlered weapons mod since jk2!

There was a holstered weapons mod in JK2?

Crow_Nest 03-11-2004 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by razorace
There was a holstered weapons mod in JK2?
I dont think so. :confused:

Lightning 03-11-2004 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest
I dont think so. :confused:
Then why say there was one in the first place?:rolleyes:

-=DarkZero=- 03-11-2004 05:42 PM

Who cares :P I can't wait till the code is released so I can get my dirty little hands on it.


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