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Doomie 08-05-2004 12:45 PM

Wich scenes are changed on the DVD, and how?
 
alright, if nobody ain't gonna post here, i'll jsut psot this in the cantina but i wanna knwo wich scenes are changed in the DVD release of the OT and how they were changed, if this info is available...

Lynk Former 08-05-2004 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fatrix2001
Complete changes:

Episode IV: A New Hope DVD:

* LightSabers altered for Vader verus Ben Kenobi Death Star duel.
* TractorBeam control now in Aurebesh.
* Han and Greedo scene slightly changed (everyone's seen this).
* Jabba the Hutt redone from Special Edition Jabba.
* Boba Fett still mugs camera.
* Han still steps on tail, "You're a wonderful human being," still there.
(The scene is an improvement over the SE, but still not great.)

Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

* Emperor replaced with Ian McDiarmid.
Dialogue in this scene has been slightly modified, indicating either that the Emperor knows it was Luke who nuked the Death Star, or that he is Vader's son. Maybe both (source was unclear). Otherwise, dialogue remains in tact. Emperor's theme from Jedi also added into the scene.

Episode VI: Return of the Jedi:

* Hayden Christenson has replaced Sebastian Shaw only in the Force Ghost shot.

* Line about Leia remembering her mother while talking to Luke on the Ewok Village veranda has either been omitted, or modified.

* Naboo has been added to the final planetary celebration montage at the end of the movie. It is a shot very similar to the helicopter shot of Theed in TPM when AATs are moving up the street towards the palace


Doomie 08-05-2004 02:38 PM

That doesn't sound too bad... thanks d00d.

joesdomain 08-06-2004 02:24 AM

I was hoping for deleted scenes section added or the option to add the deleted scenes to the movie.

Doomie 08-06-2004 05:21 PM

They might, it isn't really a change to the movies, so that explains why it's not in that list...

ZBomber 08-07-2004 11:11 PM

Ug, they did end up replacing the Ghost? :( Seems a little stupid to me, he PT crew, he shouldn't be in the OT!

joesdomain 08-08-2004 03:35 AM

I don't see a problem with it. Makes more connection between two trilogies. Just makes more original trilogy lovers/prequel trilogy haters more upset for changing the originals more! LOL!

El Sitherino 08-08-2004 05:12 AM

I'm kinda 50/50 on it. Part of me wants to hold onto the child inside of me screaming SHAW IS THE ONE TRUE VADER/ANAKIN!

and the other part is, It's gotta be more fluid in the connection.

stupid innerchild. stupid exterior post-pubescent young adult.

Doomie 08-08-2004 05:21 AM

The connection IS fluid. Shaw is the 40-year old anakin, wich he is around the time he dies. Hayden just doesn't look like him...

Codja X 08-08-2004 05:59 AM

If they replaced Sebastian Shaw with Haydn Christensen, why didn't they replace Alec Guinness with Ewan Macgregor?

If they are going to make gimmicky changes, they should at least be consistent - that's my only problem. The rest of the changes are probably for the best.

Lynk Former 08-08-2004 06:23 AM

Don't get your panties in a twist, so they replaced Shaw with Christensen, it's not the end of the world, if you wanna watch the original OT then go and cuddle upto your old remastered vhs copy and don't bother buying the DVD boxset then ;)

You can't sit there, bitch about one change then say the rest are for the best. And wtf, you're going a bit over the top (a bit? XD) with the replacing alec guinness with ewan macgreggor thing dontcha think. :dozey: Like I said, don't get your panties in a twist over it, I can see the reason why Lucas wanted to change that bit because Anakin really did cease to exist when he became Darth Vader and that was at the time of RotS. So it's only fitting to have his ghost represent the young Anakin before he became the dark lord.

Codja X 08-08-2004 06:55 AM

Don't get my panties in a twist?

I'm not the one going off on one.

All I asked was a simple question - I don't understand why only Anakin and not Obi-Wan?

I'm not having a go at GL or anything and reading all the other changes, I think they'd be cool AND I think having a younger Anakin is cool - it shows Luke that his father was once a young Jedi and would also be a warning to Luke about the dark path a young, headstrong Jedi can take.

I'm just wondering why it doesn't show Obi-wan in his prime as well.

Doomie 08-08-2004 07:19 AM

He jsut explained that. And i still think it's weird...

Codja X 08-08-2004 07:41 AM

The reason i'm having confusion is that i'm not what the ghosts of the Jedi are meant to represent - do they show the Jedi as they were when they died? Do they show them in their prime?

The point you made regarding Anakin ceasing to exist when he became Darth Vader is a valid one, but I thought the whole point of the OT was to show his redemption and return to the light.

Actually, I do beg your pardon - Anakin's spirit ceased to exist when he became Darth Vader, so it would make sense that his light side spirit is still young looking.

My apologies - i'm just a bit slow this morning.

But I really can't stress enough that I do not have any problems with any of the changes and I shall be purchasing a copy as soon as it comes out.

Also, on a side note, i've mentioned in another thread about the old Star Wars CD-Rom "Behind the magic". This contains some deleted scenes of Luke and Biggs at Tosche Station just before Biggs joins the rebellion.

Does anyone know if these scenes will be included as an extra on the DVD's? The quality of the video on the cd-rom is pretty appalling

coupes. 08-08-2004 01:03 PM

Ghosts obviously don't have a physical body, I guess they simply chose how they want to appear to someone. Obi-Wan Wouldn't want to appear as his young self as Luke wouldn't recognize him. On the other hand, Anakin wouldn't want to apear as as sith, so he probably chose to look like he did before he went to the dark side.

Lynk Former 08-08-2004 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Codja X
Also, on a side note, i've mentioned in another thread about the old Star Wars CD-Rom "Behind the magic". This contains some deleted scenes of Luke and Biggs at Tosche Station just before Biggs joins the rebellion.

Does anyone know if these scenes will be included as an extra on the DVD's? The quality of the video on the cd-rom is pretty appalling

Most likely, the OT DVD release is supposed to be the ultimate release for the OT.



Quote:

Don't get my panties in a twist?

I'm not the one going off on one.
excuse me?



@ coupe: well said XD

El Sitherino 08-08-2004 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Codja X
If they replaced Sebastian Shaw with Haydn Christensen, why didn't they replace Alec Guinness with Ewan Macgregor?

If they are going to make gimmicky changes, they should at least be consistent - that's my only problem. The rest of the changes are probably for the best.

well see the thing is, He ceased to be anakin once he became Vader, and was corrupted by the darkside, thus when he returns to the light, he comes back the way he was when he left the light *shrugs*. Obi-Wan though, was always a jedi and grew old that way. Thus he stayed in his old form as a ghost. Also Vader was more machine than man, so... I dunno.

Pontus90 08-11-2004 07:49 AM

hey dont u get it (they replaced shaw with hayden cause anakin looks young when he dies!) and obi wan died when he was old....

Sivy 08-11-2004 08:07 AM

most of the changes, i think, are for the best.

but i'm in two minds about the young anakin ghost.

its true that once anakin became vader, as obi-wan said, he ceased to be anakin skywalker. however when luke takes off vader's helmet at the end of ROTJ (when vader has been redeemed and is now once again anakin) it's Sebastian Shaw's face he sees. so it only makes sense that when he sees anakin's ghost it's the same.

i wont be compaining if they do change it to hayden, but it would seem a bit odd too me.

fatrix2001 08-11-2004 10:21 AM

The new dialog between Emperor Palpatine ( Ian McDiarmid ) and Darth Vader

http://www.starwars-union.de/downloa...perorvader.mp3

( A replace for The Empire Strikes Back )

Pontus90 08-11-2004 06:43 PM

Not so new :D

joesdomain 08-11-2004 07:36 PM

Sounds like a cool addition! Alot better than the guy who did the original voice.

RedHawke 08-20-2004 08:39 AM

I honestly don't really mind most of the changes... but that's just me! :D

joesdomain 08-20-2004 05:44 PM

I just thought the guy who did the original emperor in The Empire Strikes Back just didn't do a good job as Ian! He needed to be replaced with Ian's face to be match the other films.

coupes. 08-20-2004 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joesdomain
I just thought the guy who did the original emperor in The Empire Strikes Back just didn't do a good job as Ian! He needed to be replaced with Ian's face to be match the other films.
Well, the emperor in ESB was originally played by a women if I'm not mistaking. And of course nobody could play Ian as good as Ian :p

I do agree that this needed to be changed for continuity (sp?) purposes.

Achilles 08-23-2004 06:34 PM

Do any of you think he will replace puppet Yoda with CGI Yoda? If he doesn't do it for OT, the I certainly hope that they do it for Episode 1 in the PT box set.

Achilles 08-23-2004 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by .:CoupeS:.
Well, the emperor in ESB was originally played by a women if I'm not mistaking. And of course nobody could play Ian as good as Ian :p

I do agree that this needed to be changed for continuity (sp?) purposes.

Errr...ironically, Ian played Ian :D
He was the Emperor in the OT, too.

Proof

El Sitherino 08-23-2004 07:20 PM

he was only in RoTJ.

coupes. 08-23-2004 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Achilles
Errr...ironically, Ian played Ian :D
He was the Emperor in the OT, too.

Proof

I know that, I was just messing around with joesdomain because of the way he prased his thoughs...

Quote:

I just thought the guy who did the original emperor in The Empire Strikes Back just didn't do a good job as Ian!
I know what he meant, but it sounds like he's saying the guy was playing Ian instead of the emperor... ;)

Achilles 08-23-2004 11:56 PM

Gotcha...

*had forgotten that we see the Emperor in ESB*

RedHawke 08-24-2004 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Achilles
Gotcha...

*had forgotten that we see the Emperor in ESB*

Don't worry Achillies due to the laughable bug-eyed look it was a forgettable moment for a lot of people.

I'm actually glad that in the DVD's Ian is going to do that small part. :D

Achilles 08-24-2004 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedHawke
Don't worry Achillies due to the laughable bug-eyed look it was a forgettable moment for a lot of people.

I'm actually glad that in the DVD's Ian is going to do that small part. :D

I'm keeping my hope up for teh cgi Yoda :D
Unfortunately, they proobably would have already let that slip if they were going to do it :(

RedHawke 08-24-2004 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Achilles
I'm keeping my hope up for teh cgi Yoda :D
Unfortunately, they proobably would have already let that slip if they were going to do it :(

Actually I'm really hoping to see Yoda in ESB teach Luke a little Saber fighting on Dagobah... from a distance all that could easily be done with CGI.

I mean come on someone had to teach him... and Obi-Wan didn't have enough time on the trip to Alderaan to make Luke good enough to chop Vaders hand off.

Oh well! :D

Achilles 08-24-2004 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedHawke
Actually I'm really hoping to see Yoda in ESB teach Luke a little Saber fighting on Dagobah... from a distance all that could easily be done with CGI.

I mean come on someone had to teach him... and Obi-Wan didn't have enough time on the trip to Alderaan to make Luke good enough to chop Vaders hand off.

Oh well! :D

That would be excellent, but I won't hold my breath for that one.

RedHawke 08-24-2004 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Achilles
That would be excellent, but I won't hold my breath for that one.
Neither will I, but I can dream about it... Hmm... continuity... what a sweet irony! :D

Achilles 08-24-2004 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedHawke
Neither will I, but I can dream about it... Hmm... continuity... what a sweet irony! :D
Well, this will be the second time that he's changed the OT...perhaps the temptation will be too much for him and he will have to include something that wasn't in the last version.

RedHawke 08-24-2004 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Achilles
Well, this will be the second time that he's changed the OT...perhaps the temptation will be too much for him and he will have to include something that wasn't in the last version.
I hope GL does add some extra stuff to bring his 2 trilogies together in a better way... again I can only hope! :D

Tyler_Durden 09-10-2004 03:30 PM

Apparently there will in fact be another version coming out when either blu-ray or hd-dvd's win the backing of all the big companies, but it looks like blu-ray has the advantage. I'm also jonesing for blu ray as it can hold up to 35 Gigs in four layers so i think they could get 140 gigs on a blu ray as opposed to HD-DVD's 15 Gigs in two layers which is 30 gigs total. I think that's it, i could be wrong but i know blu ray hold significantly more information, so don't be surorised if you see another star wars dvd hitting the shelves with further changes and deleted scenes in a few years.

ShadoWraith 09-11-2004 06:53 PM

How much will the DVD set cost?

Andy867 09-22-2004 09:37 PM

What will really get your noodle boiling is that for the emperor hologram scenes, they replaced the monkey palpatine with Ian Ian McDiarmid..


Replacing Alec with Ewan would have been too time consuming and too much of a hassle whereas the ghost shaw was a simple overlap affect since he really didn't move, same with the emperor.


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