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Haseco 08-09-2004 05:43 PM

Death Star
I see the Rebel Capitol ships in the footage...Will we expect the Emense Star Destroyer along with the building of the new death star...if i confirmation on that, my thoughts would be a lot clearer, what r u guys thoughts

XBebop 08-10-2004 04:53 AM

This takes place after the first Death Star is blown to peices. So you're probably not going to see it or the Executor

Trahern Valley 08-10-2004 06:01 AM

The Executor is currently in orbit above the Imperial Retreat on Naboo.

Jan Gaarni 08-10-2004 06:30 AM

I'm on Naboo now, and I can't see any Executor-Class Super Star Destroyer orbiting the planet.

Wraith 8 08-10-2004 06:50 AM

yah i was on naboo when you said that. but all i see is 3 regular size stardestroyers

Jan Gaarni 08-10-2004 12:11 PM


Originally posted by Wraith 8
yah i was on naboo when you said that. but all i see is 3 regular size stardestroyers
... 2/3rds drawn to be exact. :D

Haseco 08-10-2004 10:15 PM

...the first and second movie are in sequentially...arent they..

Jan Gaarni 08-11-2004 05:46 AM

Define "first" and "second" movie.

In any event, Episode I is 10 years before Episode II, and Episode IV is 3 years before Episode V.

Trahern Valley 08-12-2004 01:14 AM

Doesn't mean there were no SSDs during ep4. Let's not forget by Ep6 there wrre "lots of command ships" according to Han...

I haven't been to the imperial retreat in a while, but I thought the trio in orbit were an SSD flanked by SDs.

Edited to add: Oh look, this is the post that makes me a wampa. *runs off to kill and eat a cu pa ingame*

Jan Gaarni 08-12-2004 04:29 AM

Vader ordered the construction of the first Executor-Class shortly after Yavin so it wouldn't take long before we see them ingame I hope. :)

But most likely it would only be one if they added it, and it would be the Executor herself.

Trahern Valley 08-12-2004 10:01 PM

Ah, Expanded Universe stuff I take it. No wonder I'm clueless.

DragoonLah 08-30-2004 07:02 AM

I'm sure there are at least a couple Super Star Destroyers even though we cannot see them. I believe I read somewhere in one of the NJO books that there were four SSDs total before the Second Death Star was blown up. Only two of which are named: The Executor which was Vader's command ship, and the Lusankya (sp?).

Jan Gaarni 08-30-2004 09:48 AM

Oh, there were more than four most likely, don't forget the vastness of the Galactic Empire. :)

Just between the start of production on the Imperator-Class to the rebirth of the Emperor 6 years after RotJ, over 20,000 ISD mk-I was built. Don't know how many of the mk-II was built though. And that's just one class of star destroyer. You still have the Victory-Class mk-I and mk-II, Imperator-Class mk-II, Allegiance-Class, Sovereign Class, Executor-Class, and the Eclipse-Class.

even though this was over the course of 6 years past RotJ, there is bound to have been built more than 4 SSD's of the Executor-Class before the second Death Star blew up.

Known named Executor-Class ships before the Battle of Endor:
Iron Fist

That's 7 just there. NJO haven't done it's research I guess. :)

Total known named ships before and after RotJ is:
Iron Fist
Knight Hammer
Razor Kiss

I don't think that is the complete list though, because there are several pages long list of names on different star destroyer classes I would have to go thru in order to filter them out.
I haven't gone over it in awhile.

Check out this site for all, or atleast most of the names used on different star destroyer classes in Star Wars: The Complete List of Star Destroyer Names

FCMan 09-19-2004 10:59 PM

For you boneheads here, the 4 Super Star Destroyers(including the Executor) were finished just prior to Empire . I believe Han engaged in battle to sabotage the Executor in a mission. A Rebel pilot(Jan Dodonna's son, Vrad Dodonna) died destroying the shield generators on it,slowing down the time it took to make it. That I know for sure. So it wouldn't be in-game till timeline advances to ESB and we know they won't advance the timeline(for fear of having to go post-ROTJ where they think the Empire somehow became less powerful).

As for the Death Star, it couldn't be in orbit around Endor. If it could obviously be seen by so many people, then the Rebels would've sent countless numbers of sabotage teams and fleets to destroy it(or its shield generator). So logically it can't be there.

But then again the first Death Star took 20 years to build, yet this new Death Star took less than 4 years(1/5 the time of the first one) and it was 40km bigger and quite a bit more powerful. The only guess I have is that by the time the Death Star II is being built, construction methods & speeds had increased. That and the Empire is at its might and has lots more resources than around the time of ROTS.
So that's a big NO to either being in JTLS.

Jan Gaarni 09-20-2004 07:28 AM

Hmmm, I seem to remember Jan Dodonna chose to stay behind on Yavin IV and activate the self-destruct mechanism, because the probability of surviving was slim. Part of the reason was because he had just lost his son. That would effectively place the Executor shortly after the Battle of Yavin.

Let me look that one up ......

EDIT: Yes, although not quite the way I said it, he did remain on Yavin IV to blow up the base. This was before a full year had passed after the Death Star was destroyed, during the evacuation of Yavin IV. That's 2 years prior to Hoth.

The Executor was launched some time between 6 months after B.B.Y. and the evacuation took place.

Vrad Dodonna died after the ship was finished. The Executor suffered damage to it's shield systems which had to undergo repairs before it was brought into action against the rebels at Yavin IV. It also suffered engine damage from a blast from the Millinuim Falcon after Han picked up Luke on the astroid Vrad had left him on. Vrad tried to defect, but came under fire from the Executor who was hunting him and Luke. Realising he couldn't escape he turned around and flew straight into the Executor. This alone is not enough to take down the Executors shields of course, but on the tip of his ship I believe he had an ancient artifact of tremendous power. The Executor commander had to rearrange it's rear shields forward in order to take the blow. Vrad almost succeeded in taking it out. Meanwhile, the Falcon had slipped unoticed up on them from behind and crippled it's unprotected engines system somehow. I forget how. :)

pat_thetic 09-20-2004 03:40 PM

I think it would be very cool if the themepark in space for the imperials took place in or around the construction of the Executor... And the Reb could be helping the Rebels get off of Yavin, flying escort etc... Does anyone even know if there will be another rebel/imperial theme park in space or just new missions?

Capt. Kain 10-05-2004 02:56 PM

Since everybody is so "a-tuned" to the movies.
Does that mean that it is now 1 year and 5 months after the destruction of the Death Star? (1year, 5 months is how long game has been live)

I hope the time ingame is also shifted forward to see more stuff...IE Hoth planet in expansion, Bespin able to be visited, ..etc.
Cause I am getting bored stuck in same time "ingame" these days. If ya know what I mean.

Jan Gaarni 10-06-2004 12:22 AM

Well, if you go by the ingame time, it's gone well over 7 years now. :D

Which fits well with the rampant Jedi all over the galaxy and no sign of the Emperor or Vader doing anything about it. :rolleyes:

BlackDragon 10-06-2004 06:23 AM

From the Lucasarts JTLS site regarding the Endor space sector:

A remote, mysterious system of which little is known. The Empire has seen fit to restrict travel to this zone... but no one really knows why. If you venture there, be careful!
Whether or not you'll be able to go there and see the :deathii: being built is something we obviously won't know for sure until we play the game.

As far as the Executor (or other SSDs) go, the databank maintains that

This vessel led the Imperial Death Squadron after the Battle of Yavin.
and adds in the EU section of the entry

Once leaving dry-dock at Fondor, the Executor destroyed the Rebel outpost at Laakteen Depot. The warship then set forth to Yavin 4, where the Rebels were in the midst of a rushed evacuation.
So I think that, given the timeline of SWG there is a possibility of seeing both. I'd like to think so: coming out of an asteroid field in XW:A and seeing the Executor was one of the best things about that game.

Jan Gaarni 10-06-2004 08:17 AM

Speaking of the Death Squadron, I noticed in the DVD release that it has been bumped up from 5 ISD's to 6 or 7 (forgot the exact number) now. :)

Wraith 8 10-11-2004 02:47 AM

never EVER contradict Jan Gaarni when it comes to stardestroyers.... if he knows 1 thing ... its stardestroyers :p


Wraith 8

Devil Doll 10-11-2004 06:37 AM

and since anyone of you has replied the first question.

YES, there is a SuperStar Destroyer in JtLS, but not the DeathStar as far as i know (or think)

I have some nice screenshots of the SSD i will have to wait few weeks to post as soon as the NDA is no more.

Not sure if they still have that area open since it was opened only for testing something for lke 5 days.

Jan Gaarni 10-12-2004 07:23 AM

How big was it? :)

8km or 12km? :D

And that is not dangerous to say as everyone knows it's atleast 12.8km according to StarWars.Com, and 17.6km (roughly) according to the movies. :p

Devil Doll 10-12-2004 11:09 AM

well I had zoomed all the view so it was like 30 cms in my monitor :D

I didn't set a WP to the where it started to check how long it was, first because I was just a passenger in the ship and second because we were in combat, i was only enjoying the view but still we were in combat, so I dependend on the pilot.

Devil Doll 10-14-2004 05:59 PM

Hey Jan, I forgot to say, I'm an easy girl :xp:

so for a cookie I'll tell you where the SDD is if you haven't found it yet. just send a tell to Either Eneare, Kayla' or Belial'a if you see them in beta :)

Jan Gaarni 10-15-2004 07:39 AM

Well, I'm not really looking for it ... yet. :)

But .... *gives DD a coockie* :D

Trahern Valley 10-17-2004 05:04 PM

*wonders if he's 'old' enough to get his title changed to "Official Spankee" yet*

Edited to add: It's just occured to me that the time it took to build the first and second Death Stars took radically different amounts of time to build. Or is that just me?

Wraith 8 10-18-2004 01:53 AM


Originally posted by Trahern Valley
*wonders if he's 'old' enough to get his title changed to "Official Spankee" yet*
1000 posts needed for custom title. NO SPAMMING!

Trahern Valley 10-21-2004 02:10 AM


Originally posted by Wraith 8
1000 posts needed for custom title. NO SPAMMING!
*curses and puts the viking outfit back in the box*

While we're on the (wrong) subject, can moderators alter postcount and such to negate examples of sausage and spam?

And what about the Death Star construction thing...bah, need sleep.

Jan Gaarni 10-21-2004 02:43 AM

Yes, by starting to delete your posts. :p

Other than that we don't have any way to alter anyones postcount.

Admins are the only one that has that kind a power.

Wraith 8 10-21-2004 09:13 AM

hmm on my admin screen i have a little window with post count...but i dont know if its working :p and im not gonna try it :p

Devil Doll 10-22-2004 10:34 AM

Since the NDA is lifted already...

Please edit and tell me if I was wrong and can't post this:


Vagabond 10-22-2004 11:18 AM

Wow, that's a pretty sweet pic. Although, it might just be the level of detail, but the Star Destroyer looks a lot smaller than I imagined it would. But it's probably hard to tell the scale since there aren't any other ships in the scene to compare it to. But neat nonetheless.

Jan Gaarni 10-22-2004 11:26 AM

Believe me, the picture does not do the Star Destroyer justice. :)

Devil Doll 10-22-2004 12:40 PM


Originally posted by Vagabond
Wow, that's a pretty sweet pic. Although, it might just be the level of detail, but the Star Destroyer looks a lot smaller than I imagined it would. But it's probably hard to tell the scale since there aren't any other ships in the scene to compare it to. But neat nonetheless.
well it does look smaller because it was taken far far far far far far away to get the whole SSD.

hmmm let me do another try...

Dath Vader near a SSD...

clicky too

(ok it wasn't DV, it was me and a guildfriend, we were flying on his ship (yes you can be in the ship and just enjoy the view and let the other one have the fun fly)

Jan Gaarni 10-22-2004 01:09 PM

Uhm, sweety, that's not an SSD, that's an ISD. :)

More spesific, an Imperator-Class Mk I Star Destroyer. :)

It's extremely detailed, and apart from the use of the targeting array (between the 2 domes) from the ISD Mk II, it's dead on. :) Even got all 4 Dual Barreled Heavy Turbo Lasers Cannon Turrets and the 2 Dual Barreled Heavy Ion Cannon Turrets. :D

Vagabond 10-22-2004 01:31 PM

Now see, that's what I'm talking about :cool: Nice pic, DD.

Devil Doll 10-22-2004 07:06 PM

well, those SS were taken from different players :p the ISD was taken by me and the other one was taken by a guildfriend who went to a place where the devs said the SSD was, so that's why :p

and Jan, you're a SSD freak!

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