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Pad 08-19-2004 03:08 PM

Why did Jango clone himself?
 
I accidently watched epII again last night and when I saw the cloning part on Kamino I wondered why Jango had made an unaltered clone without growth acceleration of himself: Boba.

Was it just so someone followed his footsteps or are there maybe other reasons?

ET Warrior 08-19-2004 06:00 PM

Maybe he was unlucky with women, and he really wanted a son...and he figured it if was a clone, then he could be just like his old man :)

wassup 08-20-2004 02:22 AM

Well, let's see, I don't think he wanted to take care of a wife when he was traveling all over the galaxy tracking down bounties...plus his wife (and possible children) would be in constant danger.

Also, like ET said, he probably wanted someone who was as genetically exact to himself as possible to carry on his legacy, ie. a clone.

We probably will never know the true reason(s) unless we get a look into Jango's head (which has sadly been seperated from the rest of his body). :(

Sivy 08-20-2004 05:27 AM

bounty hunting is a lonely profession, so it was either that or a kitten.

RedHawke 08-20-2004 07:43 AM

^^^^
*LOL* That or a kitten! :D

I think Jango did it as a way to have a son, to carry on his name, and to cater to Jango's own ego.

Just my 2 cents! :D

Darth Dex 08-20-2004 10:49 PM

I don't know about you people, but I played Star Wars: Bounty Hunter, and Roz, who dies, always whatted him to settle down and have a kid.

RedHawke 08-21-2004 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by Darth Dex
I don't know about you people, but I played Star Wars: Bounty Hunter, and Roz, who dies, always whatted him to settle down and have a kid.
But Darth Dex that is Roz and this thread is about Jango and his reasons for having Boba made. :confused:

Dio 08-21-2004 05:14 AM

I gotta agree with the other folks... he created Boba to carry on his legacy in case of his untimely demise.

(LoL. A kitten. :D)

Sabretooth 08-21-2004 08:15 AM

Of course, the legacy stuff is true, but then, maybe he wanted to see himself from a diffrent angle. He may be experimenting "what ifs...", to see how he would have been. If had lived long enough, he may have wanted to see how he and his clone were diffrent, depending on the enviroments and peoples that affected them.

JohnnieG 08-21-2004 01:00 PM

He didn't want to end his days in an old folks home on Tatooine. He wanted his young lad to look after him. If he'd known he wasn't going to make it to his pension he probably wouldn't of bothered (which would have changed everything of course).

nightmarenny 09-29-2005 10:01 PM

He created Boba(according to comics and BH) to carry on Jasters(assuming I spelled it right) legacy. Who is Jaster? He was his master. Daxter took the orphan Jango under his wing and made him a fighter. He was the finest of Mandolorian. Boba wasn't just there for Jango nor Jaster even but all of the Mando culture that Jaster gave to Jango.

TK-8252 09-29-2005 10:30 PM

Actually, Jango did have a girlfriend at one point... a rogue ARC Trooper started dating her. ;)

nightmarenny 09-29-2005 10:58 PM

So....he got some action while dead?

TK-8252 09-29-2005 11:06 PM

No, he got some action before he died... and apparently his ex doesn't mind that she's with a clone of him. :)

Kurgan 09-30-2005 01:57 PM

He was planning to eat him one day.


What, you didn't know Mandalorians are cannibals? Some Star Wars fan you are! just kidding ;)

Kurgan 09-30-2005 10:31 PM

Good point. Perhaps they figured giving him a kid was cheaper than part of his pay (which was "considerable"). They talked him into it somehow, perhaps. I guess the guy was a big softie after all.

When you're evil, having a kid is a great thing. A small mind to corrupt to your evil will, etc...

idle 10-01-2005 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chase Windu
You guys mention great points but you leave out one important one. To go along with passing along his legacy and all that wife/kid/danger crap he also did it for the F***ING MONEY! Remember when what's her face mentioned something about a hefty sum?

No, I'm sure that Boba was a stipulation written into the deal by Jango himself on top of the money. It goes a good way to explain why he would still be hanging around Kamino rather than chasing down fugitives.

Another point, Jango must have been told to create the instruction videos for the clone army since they all have his accent. Accent is created my your surroundings, not your genes. The cloners must have seen that creating an unalterted clone for Jango was a good way to keep him tied to Kamino (to instruct the clones, give them training, etc), so it wasn't that big a deal for them.

Boba is Jango's son, basically. Untainted from even his own genes. How massive of an ego boost is that? To have yourself to mould from birth, surely if Jango wasn't beheaded Boba would have grown to be even more brilliant than he was.

Jeff 10-03-2005 07:42 PM

He probably wanted a son so he could make him everything he wasn't... or something like that. I know Jango was one of the greatest bounty hunters, but even he probably knew he had imperfections.

MachineCult 10-03-2005 07:46 PM

All Mandalors shoot blanks.

I've said it so now it's EU.

idle 10-03-2005 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MachineCult
All Mandalors shoot blanks.

I've said it so now it's EU.

You just got a bounty put on your head. :D

Kurgan 10-04-2005 04:27 PM

Maybe he took a vow of celibacy, but still wanted a kid, and maybe with his criminal record he couldn't adopt...

T10 10-04-2005 05:45 PM

I think that the key to this is in Bounty Hunter. There's one key line in it that can be traced to his decision.

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You won't live forever...
Or something like that. I think it's when Jango's just stolen the Slave 1. Based on this, I think that his reason for getting a clone is a tribute of some kind to Roz. If he got a clone, he could technically live forever. I think that this one line sparked his will get create Boba.

TK-8252 10-04-2005 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by T10
If he got a clone, he could technically live forever. I think that this one line sparked his will get create Boba.

...Until his clone dies (or gets eaten by the Sarlacc, of course). :)

Kurgan 10-04-2005 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TK-8252
...Until his clone dies (or gets eaten by the Sarlacc, of course). :)

[EU Fan]Heathen! He survived the Sarlacc! This was approved by Lucas!!!111[/EU Fan]


Seriously though, why would he "live forever"? It's not like he was somehow able to transfer his soul into young Boba (don't even try it, EU hacks!) and his mind was his own.. no flash brain implant of his memories (EU hacks, I'm warning you..! Don't get any ideas!).

If you mean in the sense "he would live forever in his children" then the same could be said of any person who ever had kids. Carrying on their genes or their legacy or their memory that their children had of them, etc whatever. But you don't need cloning to do that. ;)

Apparently infertility does exist in the Star Wars universe, so that even a wealthy Senator and his family have to adopt a child. So it's not inconceivable (pardon the pun) that Fett was simply unable to have a child on his own...

Anyway, if he "lived on forever" in his progeny, then the Stormtroopers were his real legacy, not Boba Fett, as they continued on, as far as we known, even to the NJO. I mean did they ever stop cloning Stormtroopers? Did the Imperial Remnant, when they joined with the New Republic to form whatever it was they called their new galactic union, exterminate all their remaining clones and destroy all their clone facilities? Granted the Stormtroopers-as-clones is a retcon thanks to Lucas's prequels, but there you go. It has to be explained somehow. As far as I can tell, some of Fett still lives on...

According to Lucas they still use Clones in the OT era and "recruites" and "conscripts" of non-clones are a relatively new phenomena. He specifically cites the Trooper who bumps his head on the door in ANH as a descendant of Jango!

T10 10-05-2005 06:45 AM

Mmm, of course he could've used the army to continue his legacy, but I think he wanted to make an attachment to the one that would carry it on. I think he was aiming for a bounty hunter clone more than a soldier when it came to his mark upon the galaxy. Sure, the army was bigger and more obvious, but perhaps he didn't want to be super famous.

Prime 10-05-2005 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurgan
If you mean in the sense "he would live forever in his children" then the same could be said of any person who ever had kids. Carrying on their genes or their legacy or their memory that their children had of them, etc whatever. But you don't need cloning to do that. ;)

But with cloning he has a child who is 100% "all Jango". Having child by normal means would only be 50% Jango. Whether that would matter to him or not, I don't know.

Another theory might be that because is supposedly the last of the Mandalorians, having a clone child means that his decendent is 100% Mandalorian as well. Just a thought...

Kurgan 10-05-2005 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Prime
But with cloning he has a child who is 100% "all Jango". Having child by normal means would only be 50% Jango. Whether that would matter to him or not, I don't know.

Excellent point. Perhaps he's an egomaniac and a bit of a racist. That would make perfect sense actually!

Quote:

Another theory might be that because is supposedly the last of the Mandalorians, having a clone child means that his decendent is 100% Mandalorian as well. Just a thought...
But then why have just one child? The Mandalorian line ends with Boba, then! So either make a ton of clones, or... wowsers, do it the old fashioned way through breeding! (Unless he's sterile or gay or something and that's why he's afraid to do it, but even in the later case, what about artificial insemination? I mean it's true intertility exists in Star Wars, but I find it hard to imagine that this technology is beyond their grasp, even if it were illegal, that isn't something that would stop Fett...)

Or make clones and alter some of them to be female. And it would be incest, but he could "continue the line" through them that way...


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Originally Posted by T10
Mmm, of course he could've used the army to continue his legacy, but I think he wanted to make an attachment to the one that would carry it on. I think he was aiming for a bounty hunter clone more than a soldier when it came to his mark upon the galaxy. Sure, the army was bigger and more obvious, but perhaps he didn't want to be super famous.

Sounds good, but how would he know that Boba was going to have a career as a "Bounty Hunter" when he was only 12 years old? I mean sure the kid probably idolizes him "I want to be just like you dad, etc!" Then again in the EU they cram a bunch of crap down our throats by having Boba become a famous Bounty Hunter, assasinating leaders and stuff, wearing child-size Mandalorian Armor... *wretch*

darthkangaroo 10-05-2005 06:59 PM

Jango Cloned Himself because The Count Asked Him To Becuse He Needed A guy To Make His Clone army so his master could take over The GALAXY

TK-8252 10-05-2005 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by darthkangaroo
Jango Cloned Himself because The Count Asked Him To Becuse He Needed A guy To Make His Clone army so his master could take over The GALAXY

Read the thread carefully.

This is about why he asked for a personal clone, who of course we now know as Boba.

Kurgan 10-05-2005 11:32 PM

Who put Solo into carbonite, and then got eaten by the Sarlacc... ;)

[EU Fan]Jerk! Lucas approved his return so it's cAnOn!!!!11[/EU Fan]

Oops... thread derailed. ;P

Pho3nix 10-18-2005 04:25 PM

Hmmh, He's a Bounty Hunter. That says it all

MachineCult 10-18-2005 06:05 PM

He just wanted a child that he knew would turn out exactly how he wanted and be just like him.

Mike Windu 10-23-2005 02:31 AM

His salmon don't swim upstream.

:indif:

JawaJoey 11-08-2005 08:21 PM

Legacy, and that little sense of immortality (but by no means literal immortality). Surely, the clone army is a much greater and more galacticly significant legacy and imortality, but it's not pure. It's created by someone else, for someone else, and changed to be subservient and get old fast... not a Bounty Hunter's dream. A pure clone, however, is even more pure than a natural son could ever be.

He had the oppurtunity, and maybe he wanted something a little different and emotional in his life, more than just the Bounty Hunter's life.

Darth_Death 01-07-2006 09:13 AM

i think jango cloned himself because palpaltine paid him to do it so he could have an army to take over the galaxy .besides hes a bounty hunter and he is on no ones side unless he new of papaltines secret of being a sith lord and trying to rule the universe

PoiuyWired 01-07-2006 04:19 PM

Well, I think he just want a Kid, and given that Jango's girl maybe of species that is not crossbreedable... so a clone would be a good choice.

Either that or he got his package chewed off by a hungry tWookiee Hooker...

MachineCult 01-07-2006 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth_Death
i think jango cloned himself because palpaltine paid him to do it so he could have an army to take over the galaxy .besides hes a bounty hunter and he is on no ones side unless he new of papaltines secret of being a sith lord and trying to rule the universe

Don't revive old thread, especially to give an answer to a question you didn't understand.
He meant why did he keep an unaltered clone for himself, that is stated in the question.

Darth_Death 01-08-2006 01:27 PM

srry bout that i just re read the question.

and ya i think he did it cas he couldn't have children for some reason and he wanted a kid just like him to be his partner in crime

Cercueil 01-10-2006 02:10 PM

who else was he going to take to the father/son bounty hunter awards banquet?


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