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Rends 10-10-2004 11:53 PM

Yuuzhan Vong. What a crap is that?
 
Read the name Yuuzhan Vong a few times here or at other boards and then i had a look at EU.
After reading the short arcticle about them i thought hey who writes such a ****!
Are those storywriters so smallminded that they needed another Empire the new Republic have to deal with?
This Yuuzhan Vong crap doesnīt fit into StarWars but StarTrek or so.
Wasnīt the confusion after the DeathstarII blow up and the Death of the Emporor enough for many aftermatch stories?
Starwars have a nice Story from the beginning to the end (the movies) and donīt need such a bull**** like Yuuzhan Vong wich sounds they are coming from the Inka times.

Just my 2 cents

Rends

(sorry for some harsh words )

^Invader 10-11-2004 12:12 AM

re
 
Actually after the movies you still had alot of conflict between Imperial Rebel forces such as Thrawn, and daala. But you also had alot of other creatures after the Death of the Emperor coming out of no where, I think what alot of those writers are trying to do is keep the story going :)

Doomie 10-11-2004 03:45 AM

Though i don't see them as real Star Wars, I still think they're a fairly good invention. I mean, how many conflicts could there still be bewteen the new republic and the Remnant? Those Remnant guys aren't stupid, and now that they're on the losing side, with no Emperor that will kill them if they even think of betraying him, more and more joined the ranks of the Nmew Republic and ultimatly, they would sign a peace treaty. That's only logical. So then they had to come up with a new enemy for the Republic to fight, and they came up with the Yuuzhan vong.

Astrotoy7 10-11-2004 06:26 AM

Re: Yuuzhan Vong. What a crap is that?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rends
Read the name Yuuzhan Vong a few times here or at other boards and then i had a look at EU.
After reading the short arcticle about them i thought hey who writes such a ****!
Are those storywriters so smallminded that they needed another Empire the new Republic have to deal with?
This Yuuzhan Vong crap doesnīt fit into StarWars but StarTrek or so.
Wasnīt the confusion after the DeathstarII blow up and the Death of the Emporor enough for many aftermatch stories?
Starwars have a nice Story from the beginning to the end (the movies) and donīt need such a bull**** like Yuuzhan Vong wich sounds they are coming from the Inka times.

Just my 2 cents

Rends

(sorry for some harsh words )

wow, with grammar and spelling like that I'm suprised you managed to read a whle NJO novel.... which one did you read ??? Did you actually read one, or are you just one of those "I hate it because I've never read it but it's not star wars" people :p

whether ppl like the njo or not, its here to stay, its officially sanctioned, and it was a welcome progression from endless stories about clones, superweapons and grand admirals that are so good theyre sent to the nether regions of the galaxy during the empires most crucial conflict :p

*raspberries zahn*

NJO took a step the lit EU needed to take, to develop characterisations and story foundations for a stronger EU and many future books, with and without the YV :p

mtfbwya

ET Warrior 10-11-2004 07:36 AM

Re: Re: Yuuzhan Vong. What a crap is that?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Astrotoy7
wow, with grammar and spelling like that I'm suprised you managed to read a whle NJO novel....
Be nice Astro :mad:


Just because he doesn't like NJO or the Yuuzhan Vong doesn't mean he never read the books. I don't like either of them and I've read half of the series.
So go back to your EU forum where you all can huddle over your precious NJO like Gollum and the one ring :xp:

:D

Alegis 10-11-2004 07:45 AM

Be nice ET :p


I don't care much about post ep 6 EU...i find pre ep I or clone wars much more interesting. Jedi's apprentice for example (qui-gon jinn and obi)

swphreak 10-11-2004 08:10 AM

My preciousssss. MINE!

*stabs ET with amphistaff and runs off*

I agree with astro.

Quote:

After reading the short arcticle about them i thought hey who writes such a ****!
Doesn't sound like he read a single book.

PR-0927 10-11-2004 08:24 AM

THE NJO SERIES PWN's JOO!!

Go Astrotoy7 and StarWarsPhreak! The Yuuzhan Vong were actually George Lucas's idea! Same with the NJO Series, and the introduction to Vector Prime that George Lucas considers real Star Wars.

Bow down to the Yuuzhan Vong! I read all 19 books!!

:fett:

LightNinja 10-11-2004 10:47 AM

i agree with Rends, they have invented many bull****s for making comics and be richs

TK-8252 10-11-2004 10:55 AM

Vong = worst Star Wars crap evar.

Rends 10-11-2004 04:10 PM

Re: Re: Yuuzhan Vong. What a crap is that?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Astrotoy7
wow, with grammar and spelling like that I'm suprised you managed to read a whle NJO novel....

mtfbwya

Astrotoy,
first i want to apologize that english isnīt my first language.
And no i didnīt read the novel but the short arcticle i found at Starwars.com about the crapy Vong story. Oh iīm glad that i never wasted my time to read the novel. I realy like the stories from the old republic even if i didnīt read much about it too .
But those stories sounds more familiar and fits better into StarWars then the vong. If itīs "official" then StarWars ends for me with before they showed up :-)

Rends

Sam Fisher 10-12-2004 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TK-8252
Vong = worst Star Wars crap evar.
No, Vong different.

Kurgan 10-12-2004 07:09 PM

Vong = bad Species 8472 from Trek ripoff
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TK-8252
Vong = worst Star Wars crap evar.
I agree.

Lucas approved it to make Jar Jar look better, obviously!

El Sitherino 10-12-2004 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TK-8252
Vong = worst Star Wars crap evar.
exactly. The Vong had borg written all over them, and I hate the borg too. And no, I did read the entire NJO series, and it sucked and I've spent a long while purging it from my memory.

Prime 10-13-2004 08:57 AM

pops head in

Vong SuXX0rz!!11!!1

closes door

swphreak 10-13-2004 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chase Windu
Yuuzhan Vong and the entire NJO is one big heap of f***ing crap. The only people who like it are young people who don't know a flying f***ing crap about Star Wars.
Yes, I'm young and don't know a ****ing thing about Star Wars. Odds are, you're the ****ing young one here.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

ET Warrior 10-13-2004 12:41 PM

I think we all need to stop saying **** in here before I have to put on my angry face ;)

ckcsaber 10-13-2004 12:44 PM

lmfao at all of you


OH NOES!! TEH VONG R TEH SUX!! STAR WERS IS TARN3SHED 4EVER!!

ET Warrior 10-13-2004 12:49 PM

Well excuse them for having an opinion :dozey:

ckcsaber 10-13-2004 12:55 PM

I know! How ******* rude! People these days.

ET Warrior 10-13-2004 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ckcsaber
I know! How ******* rude! People these days.
Ahem...
Quote:

Originally posted by Me
I think we all need to stop saying **** in here before I have to put on my angry face ;)
:xp:

ckcsaber 10-13-2004 02:33 PM

Angry face? Would that involve a trembling lower lip, clenched fists, and teary eyes?

In that case, RUN!! HE'S GONNA TELL HIS MOM WE WERE ALL REPLACING OUR CURSE WORDS WITH ASTERISKS!!

XD

Sam Fisher 10-13-2004 02:37 PM

We are totally afraid of his angry face.


No, really.

El Sitherino 10-13-2004 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ET Warrior
I think we all need to stop saying **** in here before I have to put on my angry face ;)
awww ****. :(


lighten up a bit on the generalizations chase.
:p

Shok_Tinoktin 10-14-2004 01:03 AM

Don't blame the NJO makers on the Yuuzhan Vong. They wanted to use Sith, but GL would not allow it.


Quote:

Originally posted by Chase Windu
Yuuzhan Vong and the entire NJO is one big heap of f***ing crap. The only people who like it are young people who don't know a flying f***ing crap about Star Wars.
NJO has torn down a lot of what's great about Star Wars and also a lot of other, way f***ing better, EU. If you're going to kill off a charater as f***ing big as Chewbacca don't do it in the first f***ing book of the f***ing series. Wait a while to get more people hooked before you drop the big f***ing bomb.

The reason that they had to kill Chewie in the first book, is because people were less likely to get hooked if they didn't. They actually wanted to kill Luke instead, but Lucas would not allow it. They did drop a bomb after people were hooked, it was that they
spoiler:
killed Anakin Solo


And I do know a (words emmitted to avoid ET's angry face) about Star Wars. I had been an avid fan, watched the movies countless times, read every novel from Truce at Bakura to Vision of the Future, played tons of PC games, etc. long before I had even heard of Vector Prime (or anything NJO for that matter).


btw, I like NJO, but still prefer Classic and New Republic eras.

El Sitherino 10-14-2004 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin
Don't blame the NJO makers on the Yuuzhan Vong. They wanted to use Sith, but GL would not allow it.
really? I heard from a lot of people that it was del rey.

Shok_Tinoktin 10-14-2004 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by InsaneSith
really? I heard from a lot of people that it was del rey.
Well, sort of. They did come up with the idea, but they would not have if not for GL. Their original idea was to use Sith as the enemies, but GL said that they could not do that. So then it was back to the drawing board, and that is when they came up with the Vong. They figured, that if they could not make the enemy a group that uses the dark side of the force, then they would make an enemy who does not use the force at all.

So you see, they are not entirely responsible.

And for those who say that GL does not care about EU, I have a thread to refer you to:
http://lucasforums.com/showthread.ph...83#post1659183

Astrotoy7 10-14-2004 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chase Windu
Yuuzhan Vong and the entire NJO is one big heap of f***ing crap. The only people who like it are young people who don't know a flying f***ing crap about Star Wars.
NJO has torn down a lot of what's great about Star Wars and also a lot of other, way f***ing better, EU. If you're going to kill off a charater as f***ing big as Chewbacca don't do it in the first f***ing book of the f***ing series. Wait a while to get more people hooked before you drop the big f***ing bomb.

hmm...I'm 29, Ive been a SW nut since 1980. Ive read 99% of teh post Ep6 EU(havent read survivors quest yet) so you must be talking f***ing s**t.... which isnt a huge surprise, really :p

ET, preshussss, well at least you read some of the books and are in a far better position to comment on why you dislike the series :) unlike others of course

Sithy, the YV are are species that view machines as abominations, they destroy machines and droids with religious fervour, rather than 'assimilate or adapt their usefulness' like the borg. I think your comparison is a little off :p

at the end of the day, to each their own ! If you dont like dont read it, and stop whinin because its as official as lit EU can get....so its here to stay :D

mtfbwya

El Sitherino 10-14-2004 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Astrotoy7
If you dont like dont read it, and stop whinin because its as official as lit EU can get....so its here to stay :D
fair enough.

Rends 10-14-2004 06:50 AM

To make it "EU official" doesnīt make the story better.

It looks for me that a writer needed a very common name (StarWars) for his own story just to make sure that it will be a top seller.


The Yuuzhan Vong stories might be interstings for those people who like it but the writer should have used his own imaginary world outside StarWars.
The Space is big enough :-)

Rends

swphreak 10-14-2004 08:50 AM

"It looks like"
"might be"


I'm going to have to ask you to read the first book, then say you don't like it. Because until you've read it, your complaints are worth zero.

ET Warrior 10-14-2004 08:58 AM

But MY complaints are worth five million

And I think the Yuuzhan Vong are stupid :xp:

Rends 10-14-2004 09:59 AM

Nope,
why should i read it if i donīt like the whole story in general.
As i wrote it earlier single stories might be well written but for me they donīt fit into StarWars.


Rends

Sam Fisher 10-14-2004 10:49 AM

But if you didn't read even one of those books, how can you rightly judge?

Prime 10-14-2004 11:08 AM

But where would the world be without wild opinions based on limited knowledge?

ET Warrior 10-14-2004 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prime
But where would the world be without wild opinions based on limited knowledge?
Well the United States wouldn't be in Iraq right now...;)

Ba dum TCHHHHHH


:xp:

Rends 10-14-2004 11:27 AM

Guys,
you didnīt get the point right?
Read my first post!
I donīt like the idea that just after one empire was defeated the next one shows up around the corner...just in time.
There is enough confusion and chaos in the galaxy for the new and weak republic to deal with.
And i still have no plan to buy and read one of those books.

Rends

Shok_Tinoktin 10-14-2004 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rends
Guys,
you didnīt get the point right?
Read my first post!
I donīt like the idea that just after one empire was defeated the next one shows up around the corner...just in time.
There is enough confusion and chaos in the galaxy for the new and weak republic to deal with.
And i still have no plan to buy and read one of those books.

Rends


I think the readers had gotten very much sick of the typical story where some issue threatens to split the New Republic apart, and the Remnant tries to use this to make a come-back, but that unites the NR and all is right in the galaxy again (don't get me wrong, I love those stories, especially Hand of Thrawn). Other than create a new enemy or reuse plot concepts, their main choice was to right a book:


For a long time nothing happened.

The end.


And for those who do not like the nature of the Yuuzhan Vong, read Traitor or The Unifying Force, there would be too many spoilers in any synopsis gave real insight into the Vong.

Samuel Dravis 10-14-2004 01:01 PM

Hey guys, it's just fiction, exactly like the movies. I like reading the EU, and even the *gasp* NJO, but even if you don't, there's no reason to get angry about it. Just read something else. I think anyone who gets angry when someone else enjoys something other than the same things they do are being completely childish. Arguments are useless - just read what you like, and who cares what someone on the internet that you're never going to meet thinks anyway. :)

Thank you.

[/PSA]


*Except astro, 'cause...He lives in Australia!*

Rends 10-14-2004 01:54 PM

Amen

Rends


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