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Ockniel 10-16-2004 02:44 AM

Luke as a sith...
 
Wouldn't it have been awsome if Luke had joined the dark side, and killed vader to rule at palpy's side? I mean, can you picture Luke on his own Super Star Destoyer ordering people around, killing people on whims, and going straight to the rebel base to wipe then out?

I think that it would have been awsome, you guys?

Shok_Tinoktin 10-16-2004 02:49 AM

I dont see Luke as a very entertaining Sith. also, the rebels making it allow much better story lines then the Empire ruling unopposed. lastly, Luke would not have been able to train more Jedi, so we would lose a ton of cool characters.

Kurgan 10-16-2004 11:36 AM

If Lucas had planned "all along" to make nine movies, then perhaps he could have done that and left it open for Leia to be the "last hope."

Of course she'd have even less training than Luke, perhaps only through the ghosts of Yoda & Ben.

The way it was going though, it would have been a thinner story.

Lieutenant_kettch 10-16-2004 12:14 PM

blech, i hate Luke.
light luke made for a better story, and allowed for a better selection of EU books. However, i sometimes wish Luke turned to a Sith, because they are so much better than wimpy Jedi. But it's true, he probably would have made an even worse Sith than he did a Jedi

ET Warrior 10-16-2004 03:20 PM

Emperor: Luke, I need you to crush the uprising on Tattooine

Luke: But I was going to go to the Tosche Station to pick up some power converters!

Emperor: *LIGHTNING'D*

Luke: AAUUUUGGHHHH, FATHER! HELP ME

Emperor: You killed your father you fool.

Luke:........****



No...I dont think Luke would have done as a Sith atall.....

bwalt17 10-17-2004 06:05 AM

I couldnt picture Luke as a sith... If that's the way they turned out, I'd walk out of the movie theater...:mad:

Darth333 10-17-2004 07:08 AM

It wouldn't be Star Wars without the Light Side winning over the Dark Side at the end...

and I just can't picture him as an evil sith force choking other sith officers :rolleyes:

guybroom 10-17-2004 08:36 AM

I think Luke would be a great sith lord, just as soon as he learns never touch the red button on a stardestroyer's main control pannel, when it's in hyperspace shock1 ha ha ha

TheOutrider 10-17-2004 08:41 PM

If luke had gone to the Dark Side what would happen to the storyline it would dissappear who would fight the darkside Luke???Wait he was evil

See the problems buddy!

Kain 10-17-2004 09:42 PM

Ah...no.

sith_master2000 10-17-2004 11:41 PM

Hell yeah, make Luke a sith, he'd kick a** :evil2: :evil2: !

Shok_Tinoktin 10-17-2004 11:46 PM

I think this definitely needs to be repeated!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by ET Warrior
Emperor: Luke, I need you to crush the uprising on Tattooine

Luke: But I was going to go to the Tosche Station to pick up some power converters!

Emperor: *LIGHTNING'D*

Luke: AAUUUUGGHHHH, FATHER! HELP ME

Emperor: You killed your father you fool.

Luke:........****



No...I dont think Luke would have done as a Sith atall.....


sith_master2000 10-17-2004 11:53 PM

It's just my personal opinion, I've always like the Dark side, even since I was little. Luke would be a great sith.

FiEND_138 10-18-2004 12:18 AM

No. Just No.

Lieutenant_kettch 10-18-2004 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sith_master2000
It's just my personal opinion, I've always like the Dark side, even since I was little. Luke would be a great sith.
yes, i love the dark sid e as much as you do, obsessed with it, actually, however, there is a distinct difference IMO over whether he should have been dark or would be a good sith. He should have been Sith, simply because all force-users should choose the dark over the light, but he was a crappy Jedi, he would be an even worse Sith.

All in all:
should have been: yes
good at it: no

Doomie 10-18-2004 01:27 PM

In my opinion, Luke turning to the Dark Side would go like this:

Palpatine begins blabbing about how the rebels are being defeated and whatnot, Luke pulls his lightsaber to striek down the Emperor as he is stopped by Vader. So far it goes according to the movies.

Luke nods to Vader, acknowledging that he takes Vader's offer of him joining the Dark side to 'Rule the galaxy as father and son.' The both strike down Palpatine so fast that he doesn't have time to react. Vader takes the throne and Luke goes to the Hangar, enters the TIE advanced and guns down the Millenium Falcon.

Afterwards, Endor will be blown up and the Rebellion will be crushed. The Emperor's hands are being turned over or killed (if they're still loyal to the Emperor) And Luke starts training Dark Jedi...

Shok_Tinoktin 10-18-2004 03:02 PM

Then Mara comes and beats 'em all down!

Kasabian 10-18-2004 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin
Then Mara comes and beats 'em all down!
Interesting point. Would Mara remain loyal to the Emperor, or would she try joining Luke and Vader? If so, it could actually turn out that although Luke joins the Dark Side, he could still end up marrying Mara. :p

Shok_Tinoktin 10-18-2004 04:57 PM

I doubt she would join them. She went out to kill Skywalker because of this exact scenario, but in this case it would be the truth and not just a fabrication.

primalunderdog 10-31-2004 08:50 AM

I have a book where lukes turns to the darkside for a while then his sister brings him back at the end.

Shok_Tinoktin 10-31-2004 11:26 PM

The Dark Empire comics, right?

Skinkie 11-01-2004 07:09 PM

I always felt Luke was a bit of a pansy. He wouldn't have made it as a Sith.

LukeKatarn 11-02-2004 06:54 AM

SITHY ALL THE WAY! I've always wanted to see Luke as a Sith. And who cares about Mara? There are plenty other girls in the galaxy. The stor ywould be kindof wierd though, Father adn son fight agents Luke's Sister/Vaders doughter, It is just wierd. I do think Luke should have been bad.

Lieutenant_kettch 11-02-2004 07:11 AM

sith are much cooler, and more sith and less jedi in the galaxy never hurt anyone... however, luke is too crappy to be a sith, he should have been a sith, if GL had made him better, but that would defeat part of the story line, however, as luke stand in forcehood, he should be a "Jedi"

Nairb Notneb 11-04-2004 09:24 AM

One problem with the whole theory of Mara Jade beating down Luke if he turned bad and turned on the Emperor. If Luke had turned bad and the story gone another way, there never would have been Timothy Zahns Heir to the Empire and therefore no Mara Jade.

Palpatine 11-04-2004 10:04 AM

Since Luke didnt show any agressive emotions or pissed of looks then its really hard to imagine Luke as a Sith:p

sith_master2000 11-04-2004 08:59 PM

That's not entirely true, in ESB there are two scenes in which Luke shows anger and another one in ROTJ.
1) When he is eating dinner with Yoda he gets PO'd at the fact that the little green dude won't take him to see Yoda (even though the green dude is Yoda).
2) In the cave with "Vader" Luke kills him using his anger
3) Luke uses his anger to strike down the real Vader.

Nairb Notneb 11-05-2004 08:41 AM

I would love to see episodes 7-9 made by George Lucas. But to tell the continuing story of "The Chosen One" is impossible because his tormentor, Darth Sidious has died and he (Anakin) was fulfilled the prophecy of bringing balance to the force. The story is truly over. Even if you have Palpatine making it out alive, you still have the problem of this saga being about Anakin. That would be the only solution. Maybe that's why George changed the ghosts in the OT in the DVD release. Maybe he secretly is going to make episodes 7,8,9 and use Hayden as a young, resurrected Anakin somehow to come back and finally defeat Palpatine and the Sith.

Shok_Tinoktin 11-05-2004 10:28 AM

I doubt it.

Mono_Giganto 11-07-2004 12:48 PM

I think he just changed it so that more ladies would buy the DVD's...

Nairb Notneb 11-07-2004 04:33 PM

Luke could have turned to the Dark Side and the prophecy of "The Chosen One" could still have been fulfilled. If Vader defeats Palpatine, then he has to defeat Luke and himself. By that I mean that he must return to the light side of the Force somehow, through the influence of his daughter or something. But the thought of Father and Son ruling the galaxy does have a nice ring to it.

kipperthefrog 11-09-2004 07:55 PM

When I first watched this, i wanted luke to stay on the light side...

Nairb Notneb 11-10-2004 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kipperthefrog
When I first watched this, i wanted luke to stay on the light side...
When you "first" watched it? Does that mean on your second time around you wanted him to go badboy on us?

Evil Dark Jedi 11-10-2004 08:51 PM

Luke needs to stay on the light side otherwise the rebels would have lost and he would have died if he went to the sith.

Nairb Notneb 11-12-2004 08:59 AM

If Luke was not there at the Battle of Endor, the Rebels would have lost the battle. Why? Even if Luke had turned to the dark side the rebels would have still won and the three wise guys would have all died in its explosion I'm sure. Maybe Luke would have gotten them off in time, I don't know, possibly, but the Death Star still would have been destroyed.

If Luke wasn't in the Death Star "distracting" Vader and Palpatine from the space battle, they would have intervened and gotten involved in the combat. Vader would have taken flight in a fighter again and stopped the Rebel fighters just like he did in the first Death Star battle. The emperor would have used his force powers to do something as well. But they were to busy with Luke to do anything. Even if Luke would have died in his duel or if he would have turned to the Dark Side they three of them (Vader, Palpatine, Luke) would have had to have escaped the Death Star very quickly because by the time Luke would have turned, the Rebels had won the battle and there was nothing they could have done to stop them, but then the Rebels could have done nothing to stop the three of them. Luke would know many of their secrets and would lead a crushing blow against the rebels as a Sith. I don't know if Leah could have stopped him or not.

darth_nemisis 11-13-2004 08:35 PM

They should have made him EVIL!!!

He would have been a great sith! He should have taken Vaders offer and joined him, then they would have been invincible!

Darkside_tanro 11-16-2004 07:55 AM

Luke obviously did have darkside inclinations. He wore a dark jedi robe. Also the ligthsaber he built matches what would have been his class. He is much better at mind tricks and such than force levitation. So he is obviously a consular. So im gonna base the fact he had dark side inclinations on the fact his calss matched his blade color, and he wore the dark side robes. Also when he went into the cave for his trials he took the dark side way out. But he was able to control his rage in the end. Unlike his father

Nairb Notneb 11-16-2004 08:02 AM

If you want to go that way, he does use the "choke" on the Gamorian Guards in Jabba's palace to get in, in ROTJ.

guybroom 11-20-2004 07:30 AM

As your mentioning the EU in your discussion, i'll add a point from the only EU story I've read - the tale of IG-88 from tales of the bounty hunters.

If Luke had turned and the dark side when on the death star, IG-88's droid uprising would have gone ahead. Anyone who's seen I Robot will know what happens there :bdroid1: :c3po: :bdroid2:

Also if Luke had turned to the darkside, the fight would not have been so long (between luke and vader) if it even happened at all and the rebellion fleet would have been stopped before they got inside the death star

boinga1 11-26-2004 10:00 AM

Luke would be a wimpy sith. He's way too short, totally not intimidating enough.
Of course, Anakin in Episode II (IMHO) is about the same. He wines and complains, is egotistical, and frankly isn't all that great (although he does have kinda the right build).


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