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daltysmilth 03-07-2005 10:08 PM

Video Game composers = Film composers
 
Okay, it's been said many times that famed Final Fantasy composer Nobuo Uematsu is the John Williams of the video game world. If that is true, then who, in your opinion, is famed Nintendo composer Koji Kondo's film score equivilant? Or let me put it this way:

Nobuo Uematsu is to John Williams as Koji Kondo is to...

Then you fill in the blank.

And while we're at it, try coming up with some other Video Game/Film composer equivilants.

Alien426 03-08-2005 01:50 AM

I don't think you can relate the two in another way than popularity. Michael Giacchino is much closer to Williams' style.

Jeremy Soule is similar to Trevor Jones.

ThunderPeel2001 03-08-2005 07:38 AM

Whoever did the music for KOTOR deserves an award... it was better than John William's Phantom Menace score if you ask me!

Alien426 03-08-2005 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by ThunderPeel2001
Whoever did the music for KOTOR deserves an award...
That would be Jeremy Soule. And he has plenty awards (not for KOTOR, though). I've heard some of the game's music and do like it, but I love Soule for the The Elder Scrolls 3 soundtrack.

SpiffyTheDog 03-12-2005 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by Alien426
I don't think you can relate the two in another way than popularity. Michael Giacchino is much closer to Williams' style.
I didn't know he did music for games, whoa. This dude's awesome. His score for The Incredibles is great, and his work on Lost is fantastic.

jokemaster 03-13-2005 12:47 AM

Jerry goldsmith?

Alien426 03-16-2005 01:42 PM

LucasArts' Outlaws soundtrack was obviously very much inspired by Ennio Morricone, but Clint Bajakian did a great job nonetheless.

Kj°len 05-25-2005 09:07 PM

I'd have to say that Halo's music was some of the most game-pumping music ever. They set the perfect mood, and made the games THAT much better.

Kudos to Martin O'Donnell & Michael Salvatori.

Cpt_Marley 07-12-2006 01:10 PM

I personally think Uematsu is VERY overrated. From what I've heard, he had no real formal education in music, and it shows in his work. Yes, most film composers take a lot from classical pieces, but they do it more in spirit. Uematsu very obviously borrows from Sergei Rachmaninoff, and not in spirit, but in rhythms, piano flares, etc. It's fun, and I'm not really saying it's bad. I just think he gets more credit than he deserves.

Jack Wall, on the other hand, is probably the most unique game composer these days. Listen to his stuff for Myst 3 and be blown away. Likewise, I love Giacchino (who originally did the score for the medal of honor games, arguably much better music than williams' own Saving Private Ryan). And being an RPG nut, I have to love Jeremy Soule, though his latest outing with Elder Scrolls Oblivion is actually very bland, IMO. But hey, awesome last name, right?

Halo has never impressed me as a game anyway (I feel like it's an fps for elementary schoolers - poorly-executed plot, bland and ridiculous candy alien villains, and hackneyed setting... Half Life 2 blows it away, plus, games like Deus Ex and System Shock are INFINITELY more complex) and the music is no different. Like Uematsu, they're trying to say "hey, I'm good and complex!", but in composition you have to show rather than tell. The music in Halo is just overblown crap.

daltysmilth 07-12-2006 04:41 PM

I personally think it would be more valid to compare Koji Kondo to John Williams than Nobuo Uematsu. At least in terms of popularity. I mean, just about everyone knows the Super Mario Bros. theme, at least they'd recognize it if you walked down the street humming it. I would say that less than 1 in 5 people would recognize, say the Final Fantasy theme if you were humming it as you walked down the street.

Joshi 07-12-2006 06:04 PM

Yes, but does common knowledge equal popularity. I'm certain that more than 1 in five people would recognise the Cheeky Girls song if you hummed it whilst walking down the street (although if that's the case I'd suggest you run), but it's certainly not popular now is it? (although I'm in no way comparing the Cheeky Girls song to the Mario Bro's theme which is infinately better in so many ways, I'm just saying, it's not the best video game theme out there and probably not the most liked)

scabb 07-13-2006 06:40 AM

It just means everybody secretly loves the cheeky girls.

Besides, I think the point is that you can whistle 10 notes of a John Williams theme, and plenty of people will know that it's Superman or Star Wars or Indy blah etc. Same applies to Koji Kondo with Mario or Zelda. They can both create memorable, catchy little pieces of music that don't become too irritating after you hear them for the zillionth time.

Alien426 07-13-2006 07:00 AM

I never got into Uematsu's music and I think Koji Kondo is more recognizable. While Nobuo Uematsu only did Final Fantasies, he did all the other Mario Tennis and Golf stuff.

One of my favorites is Jesper Kyd. I love his electronic stuff, but I also wish he did something orchestral again, like Hitman 2.

daltysmilth 07-13-2006 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by scabb
It just means everybody secretly loves the cheeky girls.

Besides, I think the point is that you can whistle 10 notes of a John Williams theme, and plenty of people will know that it's Superman or Star Wars or Indy blah etc. Same applies to Koji Kondo with Mario or Zelda. They can both create memorable, catchy little pieces of music that don't become too irritating after you hear them for the zillionth time.

Yeah, and besides that, there's no denying that the Super Mario series is one of the most popular series of all time. In some places, I would wager that Mario is more widely recognized than Mickey Mouse. Another thing is that the critics of both Kondo and Williams say similar things, that all their themes sound alike, that they mainly stay in particular styles and rarely vary from them, etc. I'm not sure if anyone's accused Kondo of ripping off Gustav Holst in all of his scores, but you never know.

ThunderPeel2001 07-13-2006 12:25 PM

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I would wager that Mario is more widely recognized than Mickey Mouse
No way! Are you kidding?! Certainly not with people over 30.


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