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TK-8252 03-12-2005 07:31 PM

Suck it up and be a Trando for god's sake!
 
It's kinda frustrating me that people are refusing to be on the Trando team, and the Trandos lose horribly. I really hope that in a patch or something, they make it so you are always auto-selected, so we don't get these floods of people joining the Republic and neglecting the Trandos.

Why people are so petty that they MUST be an "OMG TEH COMMANDO" if it means that the match is going to suck and the Republic is going to beat the Trandos 5 to 0 is so totally beyond me.

There is NO advantage to being a commando, and there is NO shame in being those ugly lizards from SP. There's more shame in flocking to the commandos and ruining the match.

So please, to all who play team games in multiplayer - suck it up and join the Trando team for god's sake!

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Kurgan 03-12-2005 07:57 PM

it's just a different skin for cryin' out loud!
 
Human dead.

JDKnite188 03-12-2005 08:25 PM

Bossk > *

Okay, that should motivate some people.

Kurgan 03-12-2005 08:33 PM

they're supposed to be "ugly" I think you humans are ugly!
 
Yeah I think some people are clueless. Playing CTF or Assault, almost without fail, in the last round of the game, at least one more person will join the Republic team to unbalance it, even if they are already winning by a large margin. Very annoying.

Blue is the "default team" where players are first added.

Red team gets to go first in Assault (for the very first round anyway). ;)


Yeah, I'm guessing people either want to be the "good guys" or else they have the mistaken impression (gleaned from playing the SP campaign) that the Commandos are somehow more powerful. I haven't seen anything to convince me that in MP the ACP Repeater and the DC-17m Blaster Attachment are not equal.

Sides, why wouldn't you want to be the Trandos? Their taunts are scary and rule!

I have my F8 key (set right in the menu) to "Switch Teams" and I have no problem switching if it's needed. I hope bots are added to this game to solve some of the imbalance problems...

Oidar 03-12-2005 08:34 PM

I think the Trandos are awesome I usually end up on the Trando side and have no problems with it. Most people don't set their games up for auto-select. IT should be Auto-select in most cases cause people seem to be like. OMG trando nooooooooooo.
I've been on more winning Trando teams than I have Clones. People are petty anyway. Its like omg I've gotta play the good guy or I'll suck horribly. I've even seen people spec an entire match till someone leaves the clone team. Its sad really. Most people just suck.

TK-8252 03-12-2005 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDKnite188
Bossk > *

Okay, that should motivate some people.

Hey, someone should make a Bossk class! :)

What would be better is to just rename the Trandoshans "Separatists" so they can have more options for classes, like Battle Droids and such.

Kurgan 03-12-2005 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oidar
I think the Trandos are awesome I usually end up on the Trando side and have no problems with it. Most people don't set their games up for auto-select. IT should be Auto-select in most cases cause people seem to be like. OMG trando nooooooooooo.
I've been on more winning Trando teams than I have Clones. People are petty anyway. Its like omg I've gotta play the good guy or I'll suck horribly. I've even seen people spec an entire match till someone leaves the clone team. Its sad really. Most people just suck.

The speccing thing is also funny. I've seen people spec for long long periods of time when the teams are unbalanced.

I mean, yeah, a lot of people are new and don't know how to play, or are afraid of being "schooled" and want to wait for the best opportunity. They may even have legit reasons for using spectator mode.

But I have to beg and plead with them to join the action, it's silly.

It's almost as if they are JUST WAITING for one team to gain the advantage so they can join the winning one (and vicariously achieve some glory for themselves they are afraid they couldn't achieve on their own). At least that's my jaded, cynical side talking. ;P

PhireStorm 03-12-2005 10:51 PM

oops!
 
I admit, I like the clones better. BUT i still go on the trando team everyonce in a while. They have cool skins n' such, its just that they have red shields. And, for me a leats red=bad, blue=good. I end up ignoring the clones and shooting at my teammates until i realize what Im doing. lol:(

Shok_Tinoktin 03-12-2005 11:15 PM

Re: oops!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PhireStorm
I admit, I like the clones better. BUT i still go on the trando team everyonce in a while. They have cool skins n' such, its just that they have red shields. And, for me a leats red=bad, blue=good. I end up ignoring the clones and shooting at my teammates until i realize what Im doing. lol:(
Yeah, I found the red thing to be a little annoying, too (although i got used to it pretty quickly). But I find horribly unbalance teams to be even more annoying. Teams that are off by one can make a big enough difference (especially in assault and ctf), but a few minutes ago I got this:

http://www.geocities.com/jedi_duck_1138/dslkjfasl.JPG

(we still one 30-26 without the teams changing)

Rogue15 03-13-2005 03:21 AM

omg if i had this i would so be a trando!!!

Nokill 03-13-2005 06:16 AM

i go on the team that has the smalles amount of players
i don't care trando or republic

trando have better aiming guns *my opinion*
and the clones have some more better options on there guns

so i don't care both are good :D

Shok_Tinoktin 03-13-2005 06:47 AM

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Originally posted by Nokill
trando have better aiming guns *my opinion*
and the clones have some more better options on there guns

Zuh? Trandos and Clones can get all the same guns, the only difference is the starting gun (and the two seem to be identical in function). If you are talking about who makes them, it has nothing to do with which side you choose in the game.

Joetheeskimo 03-13-2005 10:15 AM

Wxatly, and the begginning trando repeater sucks...it takes 300 shots to take a clone down....the DC-17m takes about 15. :mad: Us trandos can't depend on running around and grabbing DC-17's to survive, while the clones get it automatically. When we're under fire, we're usually caught with our beginning weapon.

I play trando all the time, but that doesn't make much of a difference, because I always join in time for the clones to be 20 ahead :(

TK-8252 03-13-2005 12:56 PM

I don't see any advantage in the ACP Repeater or the DC-17m Blaster in MP. You must remember how wimpy the Repeater is in SP and think it's not been changed for MP, because it has been changed.

In fact, I find myself grabbing a Repeater while I'm playing on the Republic so I can confuse the Trandos. It's all good, man!

tommygunner 03-13-2005 01:51 PM

both the acp and the dc-17 are pretty much the same power... and yea a lot of ppl like teh republic more... warm blooded soft skins!!

Kurgan 03-13-2005 01:57 PM

The two guns seem identical to me (I've tested it: the ammo count, reloading, melee attack and firing rate are the same, and I can get kills with both), and that would make perfect sense for balance purposes. If you possess both weapons, you essentially have double ammo, that's a good thing.

Ammo count: 160 (40 rounds per clip x 4 clips)
That's about 7 seconds of continuous firing before you have to reload (each clip).


As detailed on my in-development site here.

Also, since in MP you can't "adjust aim" with iron sights like you can in SP, yet another 'difference' between the two guns is erased.

Heck, the guns are so much the same that they both have the odd "explosions appear before the blaster bolt actually hits" effect! Model + sound effect swap (and yellow bolts instead of blue).

I've also run into people who whine "Oh #@%& why do I have to be the stupid ugly lizards??"

Sheesh, suck it up you prima donnas!

Btw, I've played HJekk and he (or she) is quite the player. ; ) Fun when the community is this small you tend to run into familiar names!


As others have said, the apparent bias against Trandoshans probably has a lot to do with the ideas ingrained in people from Single Player.

Kurgan 03-13-2005 02:39 PM

A face only a mother could love?
 
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Playing as a Trando in RC reminds me of the fun I had playing as a Skaarj in UT.

Anyway, how could you not help but love a mug like this?

Oidar 03-13-2005 03:21 PM

Yea if the Trandos looked like the Skarrj from UT2K4 then people wouldn't want to tangle with them, especially if their wrist blades were their melee weapons.

http://img125.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img1...=skaarj9br.jpg

Nokill 03-14-2005 01:10 AM

yes why don't ppl join the red team :(

i have bin playing some yesterday and i even ended up whit 2 agains 7 and it whas not fun at least i had the flag but still we lost 3-1 :o

Kurgan 03-14-2005 02:20 AM

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Originally posted by Oidar
Yea if the Trandos looked like the Skarrj from UT2K4 then people wouldn't want to tangle with them, especially if their wrist blades were their melee weapons.

http://img125.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img1...=skaarj9br.jpg

Uhh.. is he nude? I don't remember if they were nude in the original UT, but somehow they looked a lot tougher and cooler back then... ;)

http://www.republiccommando.net/bootcamp/tackle.jpg

Nokill 03-14-2005 09:33 AM

hey kergan on what server do you play then we can go Trando togethere and kill them soft skins :D

Kurgan 03-14-2005 11:04 AM

Hehe. I've been playing almost exclusively on my own server (so I can use my own settings and not have to worry about the server closing unexectedly), aptly titled "Kurgan's Meatgrinder."

Due to the (lack of) server tools, it's non-dedicated, and only up when I'm playing usually.

Joetheeskimo 03-14-2005 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kurgan
Hehe. I've been playing almost exclusively on my own server (so I can use my own settings and not have to worry about the server closing unexectedly), aptly titled "Kurgan's Meatgrinder."

Due to the (lack of) server tools, it's non-dedicated, and only up when I'm playing usually.

Oooh, when I got on MP for the first time, I noticed that server! :D I didn't join, wasn't sure if it was really you. Cool :cool:

Oidar 03-14-2005 04:43 PM

Actually the one I posted was from UT2K4. Theres a whole bunch of great looking ones in that game. Along with the Gen Mo'Kai, which I think look much cooler than the Skaarj.

Nokill 03-15-2005 03:00 AM

alright if i see it ill join it :D

KillaBite 03-15-2005 01:23 PM

There is an option for autobalance in the server options. I'm not sure if it works. But if it does, turn it on people. Look for a permanent dedicated server from my clan AOD called the AOD Stomping Grounds. I've been running tests with it and I should have a permanent home in the next few days. I will have autobalance on (for whatever it does) and I'll trando it up in a second. I always choose auto myself.

-KB

BeBop 03-15-2005 02:05 PM

I'm pretty sure Auto Balance just prevents people from joining a team that has more players than the other, however if any people leave from one team, it won't force anyone on the other team to switch. And that results in having highly unbalanced teams at times.

Nokill 03-16-2005 04:26 AM

yes evryone vs 1 person :mad:
now thats hard!!!

Oidar at Work 03-16-2005 11:29 AM

One thing I cannot stand are the whiners. Last night on Kurgan's server some tool was whining like I've never seen before. Every other word out of his mouth was, noob this and noob that. I can understand someone getting pissed cause they keep dying. Thats natural but this guy was just beyond anything I've ever seen before. The best part was his very hollow "threat" where he said he'd bring his whole clan (him and his two closet buddies) to Kurgans server and bring on the hurt. I wish I could remember this guys name cause I'd keep an eye open for him on other servers but yea my point to this.... SUCK IT UP. Its crazy how many people forget this is a game. Anyway, thats my rant for now, back to work I go.

deloused 03-16-2005 11:45 AM

Is this a big joke? I PREFER playing as Trandos! I find the crosshair on the ACP is much easier to aim with than the crappy circle that the clones get.

I have been in games where it's been 1 (me) vs 5 or even 8, which is absolutely ridiculous imo. It'd be better if it was like CS, where you CAN'T join a team if the number of players on it is more than two above the opposite team.

I'd say it should be open to choice (I love being trandos, so don't take my choice away from me!), but there should be some kind of protection in place to stop there being 8vs1 matches.

Nokill 03-16-2005 12:28 PM

Shut up and be a Commando :mad:

this time it whas the othere way around i whas trando and full on my way of a nice fictory and all up a sudden it seems there are almost no more commando's left :eek:

BeBop 03-16-2005 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by Oidar at Work
One thing I cannot stand are the whiners. Last night on Kurgan's server some tool was whining like I've never seen before. Every other word out of his mouth was, noob this and noob that. I can understand someone getting pissed cause they keep dying. Thats natural but this guy was just beyond anything I've ever seen before. The best part was his very hollow "threat" where he said he'd bring his whole clan (him and his two closet buddies) to Kurgans server and bring on the hurt. I wish I could remember this guys name cause I'd keep an eye open for him on other servers.
I was there when that happened. his name was IL_delta_something(i think a number) he was annoying to no end...

I have gotten in situation where no one is on clones... but its usually trandos that are small. Either way people need to try to balance the teams. Or LA needs to get a better balancer.

Kurgan 03-16-2005 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oidar at Work
One thing I cannot stand are the whiners. Last night on Kurgan's server some tool was whining like I've never seen before. Every other word out of his mouth was, noob this and noob that. I can understand someone getting pissed cause they keep dying. Thats natural but this guy was just beyond anything I've ever seen before. The best part was his very hollow "threat" where he said he'd bring his whole clan (him and his two closet buddies) to Kurgans server and bring on the hurt. I wish I could remember this guys name cause I'd keep an eye open for him on other servers but yea my point to this.... SUCK IT UP. Its crazy how many people forget this is a game. Anyway, thats my rant for now, back to work I go.
Ah yes, that was IL_Delta_One. Don't forget he also threatened that he could hack our computers! What a guy... ;)

Yeah, games can get intense, but people just look like dopes when they descend to that level. Get a grip!

Nokill 03-16-2005 02:35 PM

this is the reason games have age labels on them :D

some ppl yust get a litle mad i gues but this is a realy strange way ;)

hope some kind of admin tool comes so we can kick litle children like these

*im guessing he's 6 years old and holds a mouse for the first time*

Oidar at Work 03-16-2005 03:08 PM

Really with some people its hard to say. I started to get mouthy with him but I can't stand people like that. They annoy the hell out of me. It really sucks when you can't enjoy the game cause of some stupid moron that doesn't like the fact hes not winning.
I've played some of the best games of RC on Kurgans server cause theres no tolerance for people that whine and complain AND cause on Kurgans server people actually talk while their playing. When your on a team your team-mates are actually trying to work out some kind of co-ordinated attack. Best server I've been on yet.

OH and those people that whine about lag really piss me off as well. Boo****inhoo you got a little lag, it happens to everyone and you don't hear them complain. Bah! stupid people. I'd like to hit them all with bricks.

Nokill 03-17-2005 01:28 AM

yes thats the nicest way of playing
mostly im the only guy giving some commands sometimes its works and if i have the flag the enamy gets litterly shot of my head :D

and i got a clean run

and othere times i give the flag to someone else and i do kamikaze and get our flag back and if im lucky also get the othere flag again and bring it back to my base mostly i do this the rest is mostly not realy good at running :p

Shok_Tinoktin 03-17-2005 01:39 AM

A bit off topic, but who thinks the voice commands are a joke? People use all the commands as taunts. When im playing, i like to use voice commands instead of typing, because i can move and shoot while doing it, but its pointless. No one responds to voice commands. My guess is they assume I'm just playing with them. It annoys me to no end.

Joetheeskimo 03-17-2005 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nokill
mostly i do this the rest is mostly not realy good at running :p
Everyone runs the same speed, there's no such thing as being "good at running" in RC. Unless you mean being able to run without getting killed.

Shok -- maybe so, but have you noticed most players don't respond to ANYthing you say, voice or not? :rolleyes:

Nokill 03-17-2005 09:01 AM

i know mostly not but sometimes thay do and then all is fine :D

and yes i mean running *dancing* whitout getting killed :p

Shok_Tinoktin 03-17-2005 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joetheeskimo5
Shok -- maybe so, but have you noticed most players don't respond to ANYthing you say, voice or not? :rolleyes:
Well, I have gotten people to listen to me, but never with the voice commands. Still, I see your point. I don't know how many times I've thrown thermal detonators at teammates coming up the elevator on the ghostship map. Is it really so hard to understand "dont use the elevator"?


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