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Vitani 04-14-2005 05:28 PM

RC/RotS/LSW theory (UBER SPOILERS, ENTER AT OWN RISK)
 
THIS THREAD BASICALY DEALS WITH THE ENDING OF RepublicCommando, Revenge of the Sith, and Lego StarWars AND HOW THEY ALL TIE INTO EACH OTHER, THEREFORE BEING THAT THIS THREAD WILL BE 100% SPOILERS, CLICK BACK NOW IF YOU DONT WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS, SINCE IT WILL BE A PAIN TO USE SPOILER TAGS FOR EVERY POST




ok, now that thats covered,
i've been messing around in that new SW lego game lately and beat it the other night, then had a hunch and went back to the last level of RC and beat that again. now, i think that maybe Sev was not attacked/killed by geonosians or seperatists. Instead, i have a feeling that it may of been the "regular" clone trooper that did it. reasons for this being are, ONE: Sev had to of been caught off guard, i doubt geonosians or droids could of done that, AND TWO: there were gun shots heard in the background over sev's comm, and since he would not off been caught off gaurd by droids, it had to off been the clone's blasters.
now, for those of you that have not played the legoSW game and are just looking for RotS info: towards the end of legoSW, Sidious does something over the Republic comm (mind trick i'm guessing) and all the clones proceed to attack Yoda, Chewie, and the rest of the allie wookiees.
now before anyone says "well why wasn't delta squad affected by sidious' 'orders'?" well for one, the commandos were prolly on a different frequency, as their commander also seemed unaffected by sidious, and two, kinda like we were talking about in the thread about their voices, the members in delta squad are different from the "regular" clonetroopers, delta squad has the capability to think for themselves where as the clones have no real free will, hence them being very "weak minded", so either elta squad didn't hear/sence it, or they're just not weakminded enough......... which brings up a wish of mine, that if there IS a RC sequel, they should make delta squad force-sensitive, how cool would that of bene to have the Delta's running around throwing boulders and crap at people and shooting at the same time? lol

TK-8252 04-14-2005 06:27 PM

Interesting theory, however, it is false for these reasons:

- Order 66 is to exterminate Jedi. Why would they kill Republic troops?

- The Republic hasn't even landed on Kashyyyk yet when Sev is lost. Remember, you see at the end all the Republic Assault Ships invading?

- Order 66 isn't issued until later on in the battle.

- The advisor is giving orders from Yoda which for sure means Order 66 isn't out yet.

- It is droids that capture him. If you listen carefully you can hear Droidekas firing.

Oidar 04-14-2005 06:29 PM

ok just my thoughts on this,

"ONE: Sev had to of been caught off guard, i doubt geonosians or droids could of done that"

perfectly possible but anyone can be caught off guard, including Sev. If your standing in a doorway with your back to it and someone sneaks up and then jumps out and starts shooting at you, you will be shocked, suprised and dumbfounded all at once. Remember Sev was through a door and in a turret we don't know where he encountered trouble. So it could have been any of the enemy factions faced in the game that stoped him.

"TWO: there were gun shots heard in the background over sev's comm, and since he would not off been caught off gaurd by droids, it had to off been the clone's blasters."

Ok, why wouldn't he have been caught off guard by droids? and even if he hadn't been caught off guard it would have been very easy for them to over power him. Remember hes just one trooper. Commandos are designed to be most effective as a team. He is not an Arc trooper.


"Sidious does something over the Republic comm (mind trick i'm guessing) and all the clones proceed to attack Yoda, Chewie, and the rest of the allie wookiees."

Um, its not mind trick and they only go after the jedi. Them going after the wookiees is not related to
spoiler:
order 66
The clones are geneticly altered to follow the orders of the people they work for (in this case the republic) since Sidious/palpatine is the grand chancellor for the republic the clones will follow his order directly.
spoiler:
In the comic for ROTS the order sidious gives the clones is called "order 66"


""well why wasn't delta squad affected by sidious' 'orders'?" well for one, the commandos were prolly on a different frequency, as their commander also seemed unaffected by sidious, and two, kinda like we were talking about in the thread about their voices, the members in delta squad are different from the "regular" clonetroopers, delta squad has the capability to think for themselves where as the clones have no real free will, hence them being very "weak minded", so either elta squad didn't hear/sence it, or they're just not weakminded enough"


Oooooooooooooooooooook.
Time to bust out the "spoiler tag"
cause I'm to lazy to break this up.

spoiler:
The order would have long after the events on Kashyyyk that delta squad was involved in. Remember the Yoda was talking to the delta squad at the end of the game informing them they were needed else where, well how could he be doing that if sidious gave the order for the clones to eliminate the jedi. Even if they were on a different "channel" their advisor would have said something. To the best of my understanding ALL the clones turn on the jedi so its very very unlikely that the 4 deltas would not be effected by these orders. As for clones having no free will, they have lots of free will but their geneticly altered to follow orders thus if yoda was to say jump the clone wouldn't say "how high?" he'd just jump. The arc troopers were the only clones that weren't altered in this was because they were required to do the most dangerous missions and usually were doing these missions on their own. Since I'm guessing order 66 has been pretty well drilled into their heads since day one I'm guessing that no matter how "Unaltered" they may be they all are effected by it.

TK-8252 04-14-2005 06:42 PM

Re: RC/RotS/LSW theory (UBER SPOILERS, ENTER AT OWN RISK)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Vitani
which brings up a wish of mine, that if there IS a RC sequel, they should make delta squad force-sensitive, how cool would that of bene to have the Delta's running around throwing boulders and crap at people and shooting at the same time? lol
That's something I don't get... why does it seem like everyone wants to make Delta into some sort of Jedi squad? These are commandos not Jedi. Star Wars can be fun without Jedi, ya know. ;)

Oidar 04-14-2005 08:29 PM

jedi fanboys. I'll never understand 'em.

Joetheeskimo 04-15-2005 06:39 AM

Yeah, I was incredibly releaved to have an LA game that didn't have a single mentioin of lightsabers or Force powers. I mean, in KOTOR I was so angry I couldnt stay a normal soldier that I alwqays fought with pistols and never lightsabwers! (Except in saber duels. :p) First-person-shooters are the real strategic ones; there aren't a ton of one-hit kills like in JA.

Anyway, on-topic: that is a pretty cool theory, but like TK or Oidar said, you can hear the distinct sound of a droideka firing in the comm (I heard it myself and recognized it instantly) showing it was simply Seperatists.

Hopefully we get to save Sev in a sequel.


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