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Fealiks 07-08-2005 03:05 PM

London
 
7th July 2005 50+ people killed (and rising) death toll not including trapped bodies. An explosion in an underground train killed many people, followed by two more explosions in the underground, then the top of a double decker bus blown sky high killing a further 13 people. Please post feelings etc. T_T

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Kj°len 07-09-2005 12:37 PM

Yes it's horrible isn't it? I've been seeing it everywhere now. It's actually a terrorist attack if you didn't know. (I'll assume you didn't because you didn't put it into your post)

It's sick what people can do, huh?

Joshi 07-09-2005 03:22 PM

A friend of mine was on the first tube hit. She got out with a few burns and smoke poisoning, but she was really shaken up with it. I'm just glad she's alive. Al Quaeda claim to be the ones responsible.

Jack the Black 07-10-2005 02:44 AM

Horrible yes, unexpected... to me at least no.

It was merely a matter of time before Blair choice of following Bush into this so-called war on terror came back and bite us in the arse. A horet's nest has been shaken and its never those responsible for starting or dragging us into this mess to get stung...

rant over

DrMcCoy 07-10-2005 04:56 AM

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Originally posted by Joshi
Al Quaeda claim to be the ones responsible.
...Which doesn't mean they really were responsible... :/

...

Anyway, my condolences to the victim's relatives...

Joshi 07-10-2005 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by DrMcCoy
...Which doesn't mean they really were responsible... :/

Hence why i did n't say it was them, only that they claim responsibility. The government knew about this ages ago, just as Bush had been informed about 911 long before the event. Somehow they didn't think increasing security for the G8 sumit and thus cutting abck on security elsewhere would be much of a problem. G8 made the country most vunerable.

Feral 07-10-2005 10:57 AM

Did it arses, this would have happened anyway. Besides, I doubt very much that many members of the London Constabulary were sent to Gleneagles.

Fealiks 07-10-2005 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by Kj°len
(I'll assume you didn't because you didn't put it into your post)
of course i did :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally posted by Jack the BlackIt was merely a matter of time before Blair choice of following Bush into this so-called war on terror came back and bite us in the arse. A horet's nest has been shaken and its never those responsible for starting or dragging us into this mess to get stung...
I wish Blair would stop draggin america out of trouble, its just gettin us into it!
heck we discovered america! we OWN YOU BI@TCHES!!!!

(dont cry it was only a joke)

Toon4thetitle 07-10-2005 04:43 PM

It's shocking what happened last thursday, but London stood tall against the German bombers in WWII so I think we can show the terrorists that they can't hurt us no matter how hard they try.

Kj°len 07-10-2005 09:08 PM

Wow, Joshi, never heard of any actual accounts yet. Sorry to hear about your friend, but glad she's not hurt seriously.

Joshi 07-11-2005 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by Toon4thetitle
It's shocking what happened last thursday, but London stood tall against the German bombers in WWII so I think we can show the terrorists that they can't hurt us no matter how hard they try.
Tell that to the people who died. I think it's about time people woke up and smelled the rigor morits.

Jack the Black 07-11-2005 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joshi
Tell that to the people who died. I think it's about time people woke up and smelled the rigor morits.
What more is there to do save for morn the dead and continue on with our lives?

Joshi 07-11-2005 04:47 PM

What more can we do? We can remember. We can make sure they didn't die in vain. If the government sits back and does nothing then it'll just continue, more people will die when they won't have to. I'm not saying go to war. I'm saying fix things, before they get worse. We can go about our lives as we did before, but we can't act as if this didn't happen.

Fender 07-11-2005 05:33 PM

Its a bad time, I didnt realise how many people I knew were in London at the time.

Prayers are given for the lost. Thanks are given for the emergency services for their stunning work under so much pressure.

Alien426 07-12-2005 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by Joshi
What more can we do? We can remember. We can make sure they didn't die in vain. If the government sits back and does nothing then it'll just continue, more people will die when they won't have to. I'm not saying go to war. I'm saying fix things, before they get worse. We can go about our lives as we did before, but we can't act as if this didn't happen.
I disagree. You wanna give candy to the kid who makes a ruckus in the shop? You wanna give ransom to the kidnappers? That will get you into more trouble later.

What do you think would soothe the terrorists? Let's get rid of democracy! Let's convert to Islam!

Jack the Black 07-12-2005 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alien426
I disagree. You wanna give candy to the kid who makes a ruckus in the shop? You wanna give ransom to the kidnappers? That will get you into more trouble later.

What do you think would soothe the terrorists? Let's get rid of democracy! Let's convert to Islam!

How about getting rid of the joke that is meant to be democracy and replacing it with the real thing. Leaders that do what they are actually meant to do and answser to the people, not going around trying to do this that and the other, interfering with others while there are problems at home to be sorted.

For how can you solve the larger problems of others when you are unable to solve your own smaller problems?

SCUMMinator2k 07-12-2005 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by Fender
Prayers are given for the lost.
Oh good, that'll bring the dead back to life!

The only way to deal with the London Bombing incident is this - do nothing. Don't let those who wish to threaten our way of life feel that they've had an impact. Yes, people have died, London had been brought grinding to a halt. Luton, where I live, some 30 miles north of London, has partially shut down due to an exploded car outside the Train Station that Police believe is connected with the London incident.

The best way to deal with it? Do nothing. Blair has, AFAIK, stated that this is his Plan of Action. Bush's plan was "Let's begin a War on Tourism... sorry, Terrorism!" and start bombing a Country that might possibly have a connection with the Terrorists maybe, then use that action to justify going to war with another country who not only had nothing to do with it, but wasn't even doign anything wrong. Funny, isn't it.

Blair's decision to do Nothing is the smartest one to make.

People have lost lives, friends, relatives, lovers, purely because some people like their God a little too much. Just because there are no plans to do something, doesn't mean that they died for nothing.

Joshi 07-12-2005 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alien426
I disagree. You wanna give candy to the kid who makes a ruckus in the shop? You wanna give ransom to the kidnappers? That will get you into more trouble later.

What do you think would soothe the terrorists? Let's get rid of democracy! Let's convert to Islam!

I said nothing of the sort. If a kid makes a ruckus in the shop you tell him off and hope he's learnt something in 20 years time. You want to make sure it doesn't happen again. I also agree with what Blairs doing, we don't want to attack anyone or wage war, but we should find out who did what and punish them accordingly.

Alien426 07-12-2005 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by SCUMMinator2k
Bush's plan was [...] going to war with another country who not only had nothing to do with it, but wasn't even doign anything wrong. Funny, isn't it.
Not really, but this is funny:

"Apparently a teacher in Britain was arrested. On him they found a pencil, eraser, ruler, protractor and compass. They said he was part of the Al Gebra network, and that he had weapons of math instruction!"
-- bash.org

Ray Jones 07-13-2005 09:46 AM

Although some media have classified the "classic terrorist" as muslim, I don't think the whole thing is tied too much to one single religion. To me it seems to be mostly the extremist/fanatic groupings using so called 'terror' as primary weapon, especially against civilians/innocent victims because it is supposed to be more effective (demoralising) than killing "ready-to-die" soldiers. Also, what else can you do against a stronger military power than literally attacking the soldiers family and make him (mentally) weak.

In the end, if the military enemy is too powerful, attacks will turn against non-military targets, no matter if the aggressor is of military nature or not.

Joshi 07-13-2005 01:05 PM

I'm not muslim, but I know enough of them to know that bombing trains and buses and killing innocent people isn't constituted by said religion. If any group claims to perform such actions in the name of a chosen deity, they probably don't understand their religion too well.

Fender 07-13-2005 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by SCUMMinator2k
Oh good, that'll bring the dead back to life!

No it won't, but it doesnt mean you cant show any respect for the dead you ****. People have died... show some compassion for people who have to go through this with lost friends/relatives. I was lucky that noone i was close to was hurt or killed in the explosions, but others werent. Show some respect!

Dark Clive 07-23-2005 12:40 PM

Well if this attack tells us anything it's that we need to get the hell out of the Middle East and let it's own people decide their fate, instead of our military.

Alien426 07-23-2005 01:35 PM

Read about the Middle East and you will see that it is economically and religiously interwoven with, well, the world.

For heaven's sake, inform yourself before you write such stupid rubbish. Thinking does pay off!

Fealiks 07-24-2005 07:21 AM

oh crap the terrorists were british citezens.... thats scary....

Joshi 07-24-2005 03:39 PM

Why? Not all terrorist attacks are by people from other countries. Most terroist acts are done by people in their own country to make an example to the government they wish to overthrow or make an example to. I know three of the four responsible were of pakistani decent, but they could just well have been on british decent or otherwise.

Alien426 07-25-2005 01:33 AM

So a terroist [sic] can be of any descent as long as he's decent?

Joshi 07-25-2005 02:19 PM

Twas a typo and you know it.

The Bard 08-02-2005 12:44 PM

This happening was really awful...I love london.

Panic on the streets of London
Panic on the streets of Birmingham
I wonder to myself
Could life ever be sane again
On the Leeds side-streets that you slip down
I wonder to myself
Hopes may rise on the Grasmeres
But Honey Pie, you're not safe here
So you run down
To the safety of the town
But there's panic on the streets of Carlisle
Dublin, Dundee, Humberside
I wonder to myself
Burn down the disco
Hang the blessed D.J.
Because the music that they constantly play
IT SAYS NOTHING TO ME ABOUT MY LIFE


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