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clonearcman 09-25-2005 10:19 PM

Heavy Troopers
 
I recently went to the battlefront 2 site and i was looking at the heavy troopers (which they don't call arc troopers directly) and i don't know what to think. I think they look kinda cool and kinda not cool. The helmet looks to bulky and the uniform is missing the blue things that i liked (i don't know if the developers havn't gotten that far or what but they ain't there). What do you guys think?

TK-8252 09-25-2005 10:20 PM

They made Commander Bacara the "Heavy Trooper."

Whoever made that decision needs to be fired... and forced to watch RotS a hundred times over.

ParanoidAndroid 09-25-2005 10:26 PM

The Heavy trooper uniform is actually the same as Commander Bacaras in Revenge of the Sith, don't know if there to lazy to change this or just think people don't care. I would prefer it if he just looked like a normal trooper, maybe with a shoulder patch or somthing to signify that he is a heavy trooper.

My main gripe is with there equipment, they still have mines. They should give those to the technician class IMHO.

Commander Obi-Wan 09-25-2005 10:35 PM

I like the way the Heavy Trooper looks...I think he looks better...that's my opinion.

clonearcman 09-25-2005 10:39 PM

They also don't have the eyepiece with the antennae on their helmets. It made the Arc troopers look so cool

Blackrider27 09-25-2005 10:50 PM

i think it should be like a regular trooper with the arc pauldron and waste cape like the ARC trooper exhept like ep 3 style. I don't think that teh clone commander shld be the galactic marine. It should be like if your going to play mygeeto, you will be commander bacara, Felucia, commander bly, but you had to earn it so in a way its a hero, But for otehr missions it should be like a red arc trooper. Although that is compicated idk tell me what you guys think

zerted 09-25-2005 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ParanoidAndroid
...don't know if there to lazy to change this or just think people don't care...

I think they don't know.

ParanoidAndroid 09-26-2005 07:14 AM

Yeah that could be it to, although I would hope that they would know somthing like that. I still think that they probably just did it because they think it looks cool (in there opinion) and to make it easier to tell the diffrence between classes. It will probably come as a big shock to them that some people are actually complaining about this.

Pho3nix 09-26-2005 09:13 AM

The Heavy Trooper would be fine, with some markings.
Without them it's just a cheap copy of Bacara.

stefanlinden 09-26-2005 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clonearcman
They also don't have the eyepiece with the antennae on their helmets. It made the Arc troopers look so cool

Same as me clonearcman

clonearcman 09-27-2005 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackrider27
. I don't think that teh clone commander shld be the galactic marine.

How come? I think they should. Well not exactly marines. Their training was designed and was good enough to make them into independent fighters. Thats what makes them so unique. So I think they should be designated as clone special forces. But that too could be arguable because special forces could be the delta squad teams in republic commando. :coffee:

TK-8252 09-27-2005 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by clonearcman
How come? I think they should. Well not exactly marines. Their training was designed and was good enough to make them into independent fighters. Thats what makes them so unique. So I think they should be designated as clone special forces. But that too could be arguable because special forces could be the delta squad teams in republic commando. :coffee:

Um, no... marines are not special forces, officers, or independent at all. Marines are basically grunts.

ParanoidAndroid 09-27-2005 08:51 PM

Weren't marines speacially trained to fight in hostile and exotic locations? Either way a speacially trained grunt is still a grunt.

I know this isn't the most important aspect of the game, but think of it this way: how many people would be upset if they gave the imperial officer snow trooper armor? This is wrong in exactly the same way in my humble opinion.

boinga1 09-27-2005 09:00 PM

Correct. A simple solution would be to swap the Heavy Trooper and Officer models. Granted, it's still pretty inaccurate, and it's far from perfect, but I could imagine the lazy devs doing this.

Redtech 09-28-2005 05:18 AM

Yeah, but you'd have a heavy trooper wearing light armour and looking as mean as a purple plum on legs. Most people who bought BF1 don't bother about the differences, really.

clonearcman 09-28-2005 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TK-8252
Um, no... marines are not special forces, officers, or independent at all. Marines are basically grunts.

Whatever. I'm kind of lost.People are talking about clone commanders and heavy troopers and it kinda sounds like their getting it mixed up. Including me. :nut:

Redtech 09-29-2005 04:22 AM

Heavy trooper carries a rocket launcher. The marine is the equivalent of a Snowtrooper.

In BF2 they have the marine "model" an an officer, and the "Commander Bacara" model as a heavy trooper.

clonearcman 09-29-2005 06:01 PM

Thank you for clearing it up.

zerted 09-29-2005 07:33 PM

Someone want to explain to me why everyone compares SWBF to BF? They are not the same games. Though, I must admitt I have never played BF so I don't know a whole lot about it.

TK-8252 09-29-2005 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by zerted
Someone want to explain to me why everyone compares SWBF to BF? They are not the same games. Though, I must admitt I have never played BF so I don't know a whole lot about it.

Because we thought that SWBF would be Star Wars meets BF1942.

(And there's a free multiplayer demo for BF2 out for download, try it out!)

clonearcman 09-30-2005 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by zerted
Someone want to explain to me why everyone compares SWBF to BF?

If youre talking about what redtech said i think he meant B attle F ront 2.

Redtech 09-30-2005 05:10 AM

Yeah, I did. Sorry. I hate games with similar titles, y'know!

But why do people compare Battlefield 2 with BattleFront 2? Well, played Battlefield 2 and it's fun, but it's very realistic and so you can spend ages doing nothing and then BANG headshot from 500 metres or drive in a tank and get straight into an ambush. It's cool when you get squads working, I'm sure. And the atmosphere is pretty much there. It's not a WW2 thriller, but more open, silent and violent and then suddenly, right into the middle of hell itself.

But the AI sucks and SP is non-existant and that's the market that Battlefront 2 is making headway, I think. Okay, the AI sucks, but there's a single player mode in there.

Also, because it's a console release primarily, it has to have decent modes for people with RL friends to muck around with. It's why I think the co-op of Battlefront 1 was so important. I would NOT buy it for my own pleasure. I've borrowed it and it's short and boring. But as soon as you have a friend you can shout cusses/orders at or to give you backup and random "YOU SHALL NOT PASSS!" quotes you get it to be a lot more fun. It's a catalyst for fun with a friend.

But for PC, well, I could probably agree with the nay-sayers. It's not going to be cool when you have morons online and your team bots are stupider then Zerglings (which may or may not be a cuss).


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