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Mr.Samoal 12-22-2005 03:44 AM

New member
 
Hello Bone Fans,

Am a new member, I played Grim Fandango in year 1999 & from that day I never stop playing it. I dont know much about computer games.

But this game can change the persons act and life. It gives magic and a view about life.

The poetry & art & commuist which have gives the player a new taste.

My question is there another part of this magical game?
Or a game which is similar in Art & Magic and poetry?

VampireNaomi 12-22-2005 03:48 AM

Hi, and welcome to the forums.

No, there is no other part to Grim Fandango and I haven't seen any games that reminded me of it (if someone has, please share). However, I think you should check out Psychonauts which is also a game by Tim Schafer. Haven't played it myself yet, but people's opinions have been positive.

There is also a fan team working on a GF Half-Life 2 Mod. More info here.

Mr.Samoal 12-22-2005 03:57 AM

Thankyou very much, But I dont think a fan can continue in the same qulity of the owner. Because the secret of GF is the magic and art and poetry.

& How is Tim Schafer, I heard years ago that he will continue and do a part 2..
Is he still in work?
Thankyou again :)

James Isaac 12-22-2005 04:01 AM

Hey Mr.Samoal,

Even though there isn't a sequel to Grim Fandango, you still check out some of the older adventure games by LucasArts if you haven't already (e.g. Day of the Tentacle, Full Throttle (which were both designed by Tim Schafer aswell), Monkey Island, Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis etc.). Even though they don't quite have the same theme as Grim Fandango, if its adventure games you're looking for, then those are definetily games to try out.

PS thanks for the link VampireNaomi :)

VampireNaomi 12-22-2005 04:03 AM

He has founded his own company and is currently working there. They've released one game, Psychonauts and will most likely continue developing new games. Someone else can probably give you a more detailed answer.

No problem, James. Your site deserves more publicity. :)

Mr.Samoal 12-22-2005 04:07 AM

Thats beautiful, thankyou VampireNaomi for the information. Its cheerful :)
I will be always around the forum, I liked it & will continue beeing here. :)

I have some other questions about the beautiful music and poetry in GF.
Should i ask here or write another thread?
Thanks very much again. :)

evulkhuul 12-22-2005 04:26 AM

Hey mate!
I'd suggest you Monkey island games - I've played 'em a little bit and I think that you'd enjoy 'em though, like mr. J. Iisac said, the theme ain't the same but somehow you've this same "khuuL idea and black humour" in it. I strongly recommend you to try that one out!

Mr.Samoal 12-22-2005 04:34 AM

Thankyou Evulkhuul, I didnt hear about the game, but i will try it.
I will message you if i got stuck in the game. ;)

El Virus 12-22-2005 09:08 AM

Welcome Mr. Samoal, I have to say that I feel the same about this game. I have been changed, in many ways, by the excellence of it.
Unfortunately, there are no games which come close to it, but as it has been pointed out, there are other interesting titles to play.

Charie 12-22-2005 12:50 PM

Mr.Samoal, nice to meet you.
You seem a romantic person, the way you talk about GF.

GF is definitely a masterpiece in the computer games' Art form (and I'm convinced computer games' creation is an Art form). I didn't play many games in my life, but I've never encountered anything like Grim. Masterpieces tend to stand alone, usually :).

Though there unarguably are other, different games-masterpieces; in adventure genre, as well.

Mr.Samoal 12-23-2005 03:20 AM

Thankyou very much for this welcoming.
I share my friends El Virus & Charie in everything that have said about GF.

No game can be compared by GF, Because the game has a story and a dream with Art and Poetry & beautiful magical music.

Thankyou again for the warm welcoming. :)

El Virus 12-23-2005 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Samoal
No game can be compared by GF, Because the game has a story and a dream with Art and Poetry & beautiful magical music.

Along with LOOM, I think Grim Fandango is the only game that I consider to be Literature.

By the way, LOOM is a game that could be considered similar to GF. It has a nice story and excellent music; sadly it is unavailable and is quite a short game.

VampireNaomi 12-23-2005 06:08 AM

By literature, you mean excellent stories, right?

To me the first Gabriel Knight game felt more like an interactive novel than a game, probably due to the game's brilliant narrator.

El Virus 12-23-2005 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by VampireNaomi
By literature, you mean excellent stories, right?

Yes, and profound and artistic as well.

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To me the first Gabriel Knight game felt more like an interactive novel than a game, probably due to the game's brilliant narrator.
I never got around playing the Gabriel Knight series; your avatar was from the game, right?

Once again, some of the text-based games of the 80s are exceptionally good.

VampireNaomi 12-23-2005 06:59 AM

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I never got around playing the Gabriel Knight series; your avatar was from the game, right?
No, my avatar is from Golden Sun for Game Boy Advance. If you ever get the chance to play any of the GK games, give it a shot.

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Once again, some of the text-based games of the 80s are exceptionally good.
Never played any of those. What do you recommend?

Charie 12-23-2005 07:15 AM

El Virus
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Along with LOOM, I think Grim Fandango is the only game that I consider to be Literature.
I've never even heard about LOOM before.
As for Grim, it has always been more like an interactive movie for me.
Does the term Literature you used above mean the same as my masterpiece comp.game or do you just mean it literally, like 'it deserves to be a book' kind of thing?

El Virus 12-23-2005 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by VampireNaomi
If you ever get the chance to play any of the GK games, give it a shot.

I am currently trying to get addresses to old-game retailers, so perhaps I'll manage to get some of the Gabriel Knight games. What are them about?

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Never played any of those. What do you recommend?
I lost the link to the site where I downloaded/played them.
But some of the sites at the Abandonware Rings have got some titles.
If you want to buy them, anything by Infocom* is pretty good; furthermore, those by Brian Moriarity (the creator of LOOM, what a small world), which would be Whishbringer, Trinity and Beyond Zork.

*This link lets you play the games for free on Java format, try Wishbringer.

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I've never even heard about LOOM before.

LOOM

It's a very creative game, based on an interpretation of The Swan Lake ballet by Tchaikovsky.
The game was available for download somewhere, but last time I tried the file/link was broken.
I would kill to get the whole game, with box and all.

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As for Grim, it has always been more like an interactive movie for me.
Does the term Literature you used above mean the same as my masterpiece comp.game or do you just mean it literally, like 'it deserves to be a book' kind of thing?
With literature, I meant an excellent artistic story; in the format of a masterpiece of a computer game.
I do not think it deserves to be a book, the video game allows you to interact with the characters and situations in a way that no book or movie allow you to.

If this had originally been released as a book, I'm sure it would hold the tiltle it really deserves.

VampireNaomi 12-23-2005 08:36 AM

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I am currently trying to get addresses to old-game retailers, so perhaps I'll manage to get some of the Gabriel Knight games. What are them about?
The first one takes place in New Orleans in 1993. Gory ritual murders have spread fear all over town, but that doesn't bother one person. Gabriel Knight is a struggling novelist and a bookstore owner who is trying to dig up information about the murders to get inspiration for his new book. Unfortunately the murders have triggered something in his mind and almost every night he suffers from the same nightmare. Eventually it becomes apparent that the murders have something to do with his family history and it's up to him to find out what.

I know, sounds like a cheesy, clichéd B-class horror movie, but it's far from that.

The second and third game have more impressive plots, in my opinion. The second one could be a small lesson for Bavarian history because it doesn't let you proceed before you've read every note and plate in the several museums you have to visit, listened to a tourist track about Neuschwanstein, interviewed a researcher and so on. The bad thing is that if you don't find history interesting, you might feel a little bored.

The third game deals with the same subject as The Da Vinci Code, only that it does everything a lot better than Brown's book.

Basically the GK games are interactive supernatural detective stories that require you to study the history of the given subject and find out what the heck it has to do with the events in present time. Definitely my favourite game series.

Thanks for the links, I'm definitely checking them out. :)

El Virus 12-23-2005 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by VampireNaomi
Basically the GK games are interactive supernatural detective stories that require you to study the history of the given subject and find out what the heck it has to do with the events in present time. Definitely my favourite game series.

Sounds interesting, better than what I expected. For the name of the series I had in mind it would be a fantasy or medieval RPG game, luckily it ain't.

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Thanks for the links, I'm definitely checking them out.
Only possible problem, they require you to read a lot (and I am not sure if you can save them) and use DOS Game commands, but after a while you learn to master them.

VampireNaomi 12-23-2005 08:49 AM

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Only possible problem, they require you to read a lot (and I am not sure if you can save them) and use DOS Game commands, but after a while you learn to master them.
No problem. Am currently playing the first Zork and having the time of my life. Thanks a lot! :D

EDIT: Damn, I died.

El Virus 12-23-2005 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by VampireNaomi
Damn, I died.

Oh, yeah, that's a problem too.

VampireNaomi 12-23-2005 09:01 AM

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Oh, yeah, that's a problem too.
Not too big, in my opinion.

Have you ever played those RPG books in which you have to choose your own route, roll the dice to beat your enemies and so on? The Citadel of Chaos was brilliant.

El Virus 12-23-2005 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by VampireNaomi
Not too big, in my opinion.

Have you ever played those RPG books in which you have to choose your own route, roll the dice to beat your enemies and so on? The Citadel of Chaos was brilliant.

Yes, but I didn't read anything, I just went to whatever I thought was a good option. There is a hole publisher devoted to those books here.

Thrik 12-23-2005 04:44 PM

(Belated) welcome!

JofaGuht 12-24-2005 12:47 AM

You're all talking about the "only games that seemed to be this excellent"...

So how many times do I have to say SHENMUE to you people. SHENMUE SHENMUE SHENMUE! I keep saying it, yet rarely do people seem to listen. Shenmue is one of the greatest games created, hugely underrated but unlike any other game out there. It's incredible.

Oh, and hi.

Shuz 12-24-2005 02:23 AM

Welcome Mr Samoal!

El Virus 12-24-2005 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JofaGuht
So how many times do I have to say SHENMUE to you people. SHENMUE SHENMUE SHENMUE! I keep saying it, yet rarely do people seem to listen. Shenmue is one of the greatest games created, hugely underrated but unlike any other game out there. It's incredible.

The story is interesting, but isn't it only avalaible on Dreamcast?

JofaGuht 12-25-2005 07:27 PM

The first game is. The second is also on Xbox. But they are saying for the third game they will have remasters of the first two on one of the next-gen consoles.

El Virus 12-25-2005 07:51 PM

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The first game is. The second is also on Xbox. But they are saying for the third game they will have remasters of the first two on one of the next-gen consoles.
I am reluctant about buying consoles, I'm not sure it is because I've got no money to waste on such frivolities or because most of the games I do not like.

Shuz 12-25-2005 09:18 PM

Although its very different in art, style and stroytelling, The Longest Journey is another epic adventure game that take you on a personal journey. Naturally it is not as good as GF but still worth playing.

Charie 12-25-2005 11:20 PM

The three best games ever (from those few I've played): GF, LBA and Sanitarium. These are masterpieces, period. All different, all adventures.

Shuz 12-26-2005 05:05 AM

LBA? Little Big Adventure?

Charie 12-26-2005 05:58 AM

Precisely.

James Isaac 12-26-2005 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JofaGuht
The first game is. The second is also on Xbox. But they are saying for the third game they will have remasters of the first two on one of the next-gen consoles.

I don't have a Dreamcast or an Xbox, so I won't be able to try this. But apparently the developers are creating Shenmue Online for the PC. If that's as good as the others in the series I'll give it a tr

JofaGuht 12-26-2005 03:38 PM

Oh, come on guys. Dreamcast has to be like forty bucks now.

El Virus 12-26-2005 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JofaGuht
Oh, come on guys. Dreamcast has to be like forty bucks now.

I always thought it to be better than the Playstation; but I can't get discontinued games, do you think I can get a discontinued console?

In addition, 40 Dollars are about 120 Pesos. I'd rather not spend so much money on entertainment.

EDIT: James, the GF Half-Life 2 Mod looks very promising. A shame I don't own HL 2.

VampireNaomi 12-27-2005 04:14 AM

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Oh, come on guys. Dreamcast has to be like forty bucks now.
If you can find one. I've never seen it in any store I've visited in my life and I don't buy used consoles. Shame really, since Shenmue looks like an interesting experience.

Someone mentioned The Longest Journey. It's going to be re-released over here in the PC Best Buy series. What are the good sides and bad sides?

Shuz 12-28-2005 03:14 AM

The Longest Journey.

Good:
Long and epic, leaves you with that "I wish it wasn't over" feeling at the end (you don't get that much these days).
Very good storyline.
likeable characters.

Bad:
graphics are a bit dated (only low res, but still nice art-wise)
has some long winded conversations
a few puzzles are just beyond any reasonable logic (the infamous subway key puzzle deserves a mention).

VampireNaomi 12-28-2005 03:54 AM

Thanks, Shuz. Isn't there a sequel being developed?

Shuz 12-29-2005 02:51 AM

Yes, it's called "Dreamfall". I haven't read that much about it but from what I've seen it has "actiony" bits in it now which has some fans disappointed. However, it looks like a great game and I'll probably get it just for the continuation of the story.


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