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jawathehutt 01-21-2006 06:22 PM

ATTE vs. ATAT
 
which is better in this game
i still like atte more

toue 01-21-2006 07:48 PM

i prefer the at-at but the ai seems to make better use of the at-tes widespread weaponry, also if they would fight and they were facing each other the at-at would win because of it's heavier firepower while the at-te would be stuck with more spreadout weapons that were all weaker then the at ats guns

REDJOHNNYMIKE 01-22-2006 01:07 AM

I preffer the AT-AT just because of it's inherent awesomeness:D
And the added tactical considerations of snowspeeder tripwires.

[ot]anyone else ever seen an atat do the exorcist neck crack:D[/ot]

toue 01-22-2006 01:25 AM

plus tarkin (the at-at was another tarkin prodject right?) had made the at-at as a improved version of the old repubics at-te
ot reply yea once when i first played hoth, i was luke tryin to get up there an do some damage and i landed on the head which started goin flippidy flop everywhere tryin to kill me rather funny i must say

Redtech 01-22-2006 08:19 AM

Yep, the same way that the German "supertank" of WII is an improvement over the M1 tank because it's bigger.

Meh, you can flank an AT-AT so easy, they suck so much they blow. At least an AT-TE can turn around! It's probably why levels with an AT-AT in BF1 were so small or had no decent vehicles, because as soon as you get behind it..POW! Also, Snowspeeders=win.

MachineCult 01-22-2006 08:23 AM

There must be a way to get both the AT-AT and the AT-TE in a map at the same time so someone could see which would win.

ParanoidAndroid 01-22-2006 08:39 AM

I think their was a mod map made that pitted them against each other...

I would say the AT-AT. It's got stronger armor, and kick ass cannons (at least it did in BF1). Although the AT-TE's top cannon does pack a punch, it would really hurt the 'AT if it got it in the neck. I still gotta say the AT-AT wins. Of course if the AT-TE can get behind it then it's a diffrent story, but neither are exactly agile. I think it would get destroyed before it managed to lumber into position.

MachineCult 01-22-2006 08:50 AM

The AT-TE has those really fast missiles now which also packs a punch. Someone has to actually try it out properly.

lordzack 01-22-2006 10:08 AM

According to the RPG stats, the AT-AT is much stronger than the AT-TE. However I can see AT-TEs still being used on some backwater worlds or as support for AT-Ats, as they are pretty good aganist infantry with all they're laser cannons.

Alkonium 01-22-2006 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ParanoidAndroid
I think their was a mod map made that pitted them against each other...

There is: Myrkr: Show of Force for the Battlefront I. It doesn't use the original AT-TE, it uses the modded Liberator-class AT-TE(it only looks different though).

Darth Andrew 01-22-2006 01:18 PM

Neither, at least in Battlefront II. Now, their primary cannons do diddily-squat against groups of infantry; I HATE trying to hit them dead on. :mad:

PoiuyWired 01-22-2006 02:34 PM

In BF1 they do a better job, mainly due to AoE areas... then again ALL AoE weapons got nerfed.

Oh, snowspeeder can't do jack against ATAT.

A careful ATAT pilot would park the two ATATs parallel when they move, leaving no room in between for the snowspeeder.

If not, they will be parking next to a mountain/hill...

Go back to shooting at his neck I would say.

Commander Obi-Wan 01-22-2006 05:24 PM

The AT-AT is better, but I like the AT-TE more. Since I like to use Count Dooku and jump on to the top of the AT-TE and kill the soliders in the gunner position. :xp:

Fate's Decision 01-22-2006 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PoiuyWired
Oh, snowspeeder can't do jack against ATAT.

A careful ATAT pilot would park the two ATATs parallel when they move, leaving no room in between for the snowspeeder.

Hmm...you know that the cable goes right through the other ATATs legs? The cable is long enough so that you can basically go around both of them, like they're just one fat ATAT. If they spead out far enough that the snowspeeder can't go around both at the same time, it leaves plenty of room for it to go in between both of them anyway so, technically, that trick doesn't work. Neither does lining them up, you can go right in between the other's legs.

General Solo 01-23-2006 11:21 AM

yea I think that the AT-AT could beat the AT-ET. But one advantage the AT-ET has is that the tow cables wouldn't be able to go around it that easy, then the at-at.

PoiuyWired 01-23-2006 03:47 PM

[QUOTE=Fate's Decision]
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Originally Posted by PoiuyWired
Oh, snowspeeder can't do jack against ATAT.

A careful ATAT pilot would park the two ATATs parallel when they move, leaving no room in between for the snowspeeder.QUOTE]

Hmm...you know that the cable goes right through the other ATATs legs? The cable is long enough so that you can basically go around both of them, like they're just one fat ATAT. If they spead out far enough that the snowspeeder can't go around both at the same time, it leaves plenty of room for it to go in between both of them anyway so, technically, that trick doesn't work. Neither does lining them up, you can go right in between the other's legs.

You can try with a snowspeeder next time then.

If you leave enough space between the ATATs there is hardly enough room to go between them, but wide enough to cause the wires to overstretch...

Also you have to pilot really well, cause getting rammed by the ATAT will kill you, as will slamming on that big piece of metal. You also have to dodge its cannons.

General Solo 01-24-2006 10:42 AM

dodging it is pretty easy, it is just the ground troops and the turrets that are sort of the hard part to get by.

MachineCult 01-24-2006 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by General Solo
yea I think that the AT-AT could beat the AT-ET. But one advantage the AT-ET has is that the tow cables wouldn't be able to go around it that easy, then the at-at.

I don't think the tow cables would work on the AT-TE at all.

Commander Obi-Wan 01-24-2006 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MachineCult
I don't think the tow cables would work on the AT-TE at all.

Obviously, it's legs are about the size of an average solider. Plus it would be rather stupid to fly that low.

Justus 01-24-2006 05:49 PM

I would go with the AT-AT, if for nothing else for the memories it brings of seeing ESB in theaters when I was a tike. In the game, I generally play rebellion era, so I have little knowledge on the prequel era tech.

MachineCult 01-25-2006 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Justus
I would go with the AT-AT, if for nothing else for the memories it brings of seeing ESB in theaters when I was a tike. In the game, I generally play rebellion era, so I have little knowledge on the prequel era tech.

Haven't you seen the Prequel movies?

Justus 01-25-2006 10:23 AM

Yeah I've seen them, the prequel technology just doesn't do much for me in comparison to the OT.

MachineCult 01-25-2006 10:25 AM

Fair enough, it's vice versa for me though.

Commander Obi-Wan 01-25-2006 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MachineCult
Fair enough, it's vice versa for me though.

I agree...for obvious reasons.

PoiuyWired 01-25-2006 03:24 PM

*cough* Its tha age? *cough*

I like both eras... Too bad some more interesting aspacts or the machines are not shown in the movies... like, ATAT have the option of carrying bike squadron, which is obviously not useful in Hoth.

Commander Obi-Wan 01-25-2006 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PoiuyWired
*cough* Its tha age? *cough*

Nah. More of the technolgy. Though, I guess the age and technole would be similar.

Redtech 01-26-2006 08:08 AM

Well, if anything, they go backwards from 4-6 and 1-3 (ha ha, so's the nuimbering!)
I've made a pretty brutal explanation for why I think this may be, ask later.

FCMan 01-30-2006 07:48 AM

I gotta go with the AT-TE. The AT-TE has the advantages of: lower height(tow cables don't work, less of a blind spot underneath/in front of it), rear guns(no rear blind spot like on the AT-AT), better turning(pretty self-explanatory). The AT-AT's height may give it a better line of sight range, but it also leaves its underside that much more vulnerable. Besides, one of the AT-AT's greatest assets was the intimidation factor. Seeing such a huge war machine would tend to scare enemy forces and make them less effective in combat. I'd say this probably wouldn't work on the Clone forces in the AT-TE. And to be fair, we didn't see any real threats to the AT-AT's, just infantry. Actual mechs like an AT-TE would definitely have to be at least a threat to the AT-AT.

MachineCult 01-30-2006 10:28 AM

I agree FCMan, I have to go with the AT-TE.

OOM-911 01-30-2006 10:49 AM

idk whitch to pic

but ill show what i saw on the mod map

atte-outranrged atat with its progectile gun and disses out heavy damage
atat-kills atte with about 3-5 shot on the vehicle
atte-one gets threw and brigngs down the two lead atats then it gets shot up

id say in this case its a tie becase they never really got anywere

MachineCult 01-30-2006 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OOM-911
idk whitch to pic

but ill show what i saw on the mod map

atte-outranrged atat with its progectile gun and disses out heavy damage
atat-kills atte with about 3-5 shot on the vehicle
atte-one gets threw and brigngs down the two lead atats then it gets shot up

id say in this case its a tie becase they never really got anywere

What?

ParanoidAndroid 01-30-2006 03:57 PM

1 on 1, AT-AT vs AT-TE, I say the AT-AT would win in a straight up fight between the two, the AT-TE's tail guns are usless against it and the ability not to get tripped up by snow speeders is not important as their are none present.

However in terms of overall use the AT-TE is the better choice. It has weapons on all sides, has a lower profile making it harder to assault. Really the AT-AT seems more like a long range shock weapon that needs the support of infantry and other vehicles. The AT-TE is effective on it's own.

MachineCult 01-30-2006 04:23 PM

If the AT-TE wasn't fighting fair it would win, it could get really close to it and shoot it's legs or get along side it and do the same, and the AT-AT would have no chance of hitting it.

PoiuyWired 01-30-2006 05:49 PM

Quick! someone make a mode with jackable/ridable ATAT and ATTE, and let them fight it out!!!

MachineCult 01-30-2006 05:51 PM

That would be the best way to find out.

Cheeseinator 02-13-2006 02:14 PM

ATAT would beat the crap out of the ATTE, it's bigger, more heavily armoured and has heck of lot more firepower (or at least it is supposed to) the only advantage the ATTE has is that it can cover itself from all sides

PoiuyWired 02-14-2006 02:15 PM

Well, In Game, My guess is ATTE being way better, due to more people piloting that thing, being able to do more DPS, even when it comes to frontal attack.

But in-universe ATAT is way tougher, and work as a great transport.

MachineCult 02-14-2006 04:17 PM

Agreed, Poiuy.

Redtech 02-16-2006 06:47 AM

Disagree, the AT-AT is only faster than a slug when playing Empire at War, now THEN it makes a good transport. Otherwise, you can outrun it on foot.

Commander Obi-Wan 02-16-2006 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Redtech
Disagree, the AT-AT is only faster than a slug when playing Empire at War, now THEN it makes a good transport. Otherwise, you can outrun it on foot.

Agreed. The makes more sense.


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