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Delphi-PG 01-30-2006 01:05 PM

CALLING ALL TROOPS!
 
Hi Guys,

Normally I don't do this, but because I love EAW soo much I can't help it. If time permits, head over to Voodoo Extreme to cast your vote.

Follow the link below for more details.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/684/684402p1.html

Thrawn 01-30-2006 01:51 PM

*salutes* Aye Aye sir!

Let's show those folks over at EA who the true masters of strategy games are:)

DarthMaulUK 01-30-2006 02:17 PM

Nothing like riding on the back of the EA Marketing machine! PC gamer UK also has the great BFME 2 vs Empire at War next month teaser, which was to be expected.

However, I fear that PC gamer isnt going to reward EaW with a high score from reading their preview......but seriously, why do people believe magazine reviews anyway?

Lets take the fight all the way

DMUK

Orao 01-30-2006 02:17 PM

I gave my vote to the EAW but isn't this kind of weired ? Former Westwood Vs former Westwood. In other places it's called the civil war :lsduel:

Anyway I still have the bad taste from BFME 1 where lagg in SP was nothing I experienced till then not to mention the pitty gameplay. .

MasterJack 01-30-2006 02:53 PM

Consider my vote cast, EAW all the way.

popcorn2008 01-30-2006 02:56 PM

Well of course I have to vote for petro! EaW is way better than battle for middle earth! :D So far EaW is ahead!

Foshjedi2004 01-30-2006 03:42 PM

Battle for Middle Earth II - 364
Star Wars Empire at War - 477

Q-Osiris 01-30-2006 04:08 PM

Vote : EaW.

gswift 01-30-2006 04:12 PM

buy my vote
 
You can buy my vote by making a quick response to some of the great suggestions made in the "General Discussion -> Empire at War: Demo feedback -> Feedback Welcome" discussion thread. Are there any plans for updates to the full version?

I already voted for EaW, but I'm curious nonetheless.

Jmaster3265 01-30-2006 04:20 PM

Hard decision they both look like good games.(played eaw demo not bff2 yet) I like EA and lucasarts. Here are the votes so far.

p.s I cant do the beta for bff2? Is it even a demo? Apprently the beta isnt free and you need to be a preium memb fo fileplanet, im a normal free account.

Which former Westwood dev team has the better game?


Battle for Middle Earth II - 392


Star Wars Empire at War - 516

Admiral Sith 01-30-2006 04:26 PM

Battle for Middle Earth II - 394


Star Wars Empire at War - 523

RC2080 01-30-2006 04:56 PM

Just because it's EA, I'm voting for EaW.. no offense to the devs of EaW, but I haven't seen that Battle For Middle Earth II game before.. but anyways, you have my vote :P

Btw, do you guys from both companies know each other? Are there bets laid or something?

DS_Vespidbat 01-30-2006 05:14 PM

Go Here it will mostly tell u about them 2

endurell 01-30-2006 05:16 PM

Oh come on, why would so many people vote for BFME 2? I mean, they added Tom Bombadil as a hero unit!!! It's bizarre!

Empire at War has my vote. :slsaber:

swphreak 01-30-2006 05:26 PM

Now if I could only play BFME2 so I can compare. ;)

I enjoyed BFME a lot, so anything can happen.

HordeOfDoom 01-30-2006 06:14 PM

I played B4ME2 BETA (I was a closed BETA tester in fact...) and the EaW Demo....EaW, hands down....tehee, now im advertising EaW on the B4ME2 fan site I was supposed to be testing the BETA for:P

Darth Andrew 01-30-2006 07:18 PM

Though I like LotR, Star Wars beats it any ol' day. ;)

BfMEII: 501

Empire at War: 664

Athanasios 01-30-2006 07:32 PM

Although i got couple complaints about EaW, the duty goes first ;)

Keep up mates, although the battle looks severe (150 votes difference), the victory will be ours :jumpfire:

http://users.auth.gr/~atsiolas/commandos.jpg
-"SWAT force - ready to take care of those BFME2 voters..."

Commander Obi-Wan 01-30-2006 08:21 PM

I voted for BFME II....since I enjoyed the prequel of it. THough I plan on buying both of the games.

Darth Andrew 01-30-2006 08:23 PM

Hang your head in shame, Private. :p

popcorn2008 01-30-2006 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Obi-Wan
I voted for BFME II....since I enjoyed the prequel of it. THough I plan on buying both of the games.

What is this blasphemy? How dare you!

:D Hey well I guess everyone's entitled to fair opinion :)

Jeff 01-30-2006 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Obi-Wan
I voted for BFME II....since I enjoyed the prequel of it. THough I plan on buying both of the games.

The demo alone of EaW was better than BFME.

EaW all the way :)

NinjaSokudo 01-30-2006 08:40 PM

Just voted for EaW of course...

current count:

Battle for Middle Earth II - 536

Star Wars Empire at War - 703

EliteJal 01-30-2006 08:53 PM

Petro & Lucasarts guys have my Vote :)

Darth_Torpid-PG 01-30-2006 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gswift
You can buy my vote by making a quick response to some of the great suggestions made in the "General Discussion -> Empire at War: Demo feedback -> Feedback Welcome" discussion thread. Are there any plans for updates to the full version?

I already voted for EaW, but I'm curious nonetheless.

I can take this one.

Delphi and I read all of the comments in that section, and in the "feedback welcome" thread especially (I started it after all :) ) While we don't have time enough to respond to every single idea/suggestion/question, We do take note of all of them. We will also, of course, pay close attention to things said once the game ships.

It's already too late to change the shipping version. However, since the demo is from an early December build, many of the concerns and bugs players have found have already been addressed. Those concerns that may not have been addressed and are not "by design" can be addressed afterwards with patches. We don't plan to let you guys hang once the game hits store shelves; we'll make every effort to make your EaW experience a good one. That's not to say that every single suggestion/concern/wish will be instantly put into the game, but it does mean that we will certainly consider it.

Community is important to us, as is making great games that people enjoy playing. We aren't vocal all the time, be we ARE watching...

Commander Obi-Wan 01-30-2006 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Moeller
The demo alone of EaW was better than BFME.

But that was BFME. Meh. I'll enjoy them both.

Rok_stoned 01-30-2006 11:40 PM

Quote:

Let's show those folks over at EA who the true masters of strategy games are
Blizzard, Westwood and petro-glyph.

You have my vote!

Delphi-PG 01-31-2006 12:31 AM

Darth Torpid! Always a pleasure! good to see you got my back.


Thanks for the help guys! We do greatly appreciate it.

DarthMaulUK 01-31-2006 06:04 AM

Im gonna try and put this on the front page. Using a 56k modem until my broadband arrives in my new place means long long long wait times. Its hard to believe how the net 'used'to be on dial up. AARRRGGHHH!

DMUK

Solid Snake 01-31-2006 06:16 AM

EAW for me

Apocalypse|TFL 01-31-2006 06:57 AM

I'm going to hold my vote until bfme2 is out. I won't give a vote until i see all sides of the argument, especially on this poll as i'm a fan of bfme1. To be honest though, voting on which is the better game is ultimately pointless as they are 2 rts games but totally seperated by different concepts.

My only fear is that EA won't give the support that a title like bfme2 really needs. I'm tired of getting games that end up unsupported and your always left with what is usually an unfinished product.

I am, however, hopeful that Petroglyph will support EaW, other companies tend to treat the starwars universe as nothing more than a money making franchise, whereas Petroglyph don't seem to be following the same pattern.

To sum it up, my vote will go to the game that is best supported.

Athanasios 01-31-2006 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthMaulUK
Im gonna try and put this on the front page. Using a 56k modem until my broadband arrives in my new place means long long long wait times. Its hard to believe how the net 'used'to be on dial up. AARRRGGHHH!
DMUK

Heh, good old days eh? Being personally stuck on a 56k for over 5 years till get this 1mbps dsl, you can't imagine how "excited" i was when a 90MB demo finished :)

And Bricard, i have faced the worst un-supported title when buying Heores of the Pacific; simply, you had the sence that this game came from nowhere and no company was behind to support it.......i left it after 2 weeks.....

Petro promised to organise tourneys, making necessary patches and such, keeping a community alive. Also, it's the first time i see devs to interact so much with communities. The "old" studios tend to have a kind of arrogant belief "we make good games, you buy them; we can make mistakes, but we don't care, since you bought the game..." .

And as for waiting to test the two titles and then vote, this is up to you, but this poll will probably close before the release of two titles; it's just about fan war :sniper9: :snip2:

.........just taking cover of enemy fire ;)...........

endurell 01-31-2006 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Obi-Wan
I voted for BFME II....since I enjoyed the prequel of it. THough I plan on buying both of the games.

It brings a tear to my eye to see a jedi go to the dark side :(

Erzwo 01-31-2006 02:42 PM

I make my vote and guess for whitch game. ;) :r2d2:

BFME = 778 :smash:

EaW = 1055 :guiness: :guiness: :cowdance :laughing: :guitar2 :bounce3:

Jan Gaarni 01-31-2006 03:19 PM

I have cast my vote (I trust I won't have to spell which one? :D ).

Athanasios 01-31-2006 03:55 PM

I think we've outnumbered them mates...victory is ours, as it meant to be ;)

Battle for Middle Earth II - 794

Star Wars Empire at War - 1082



http://users.auth.gr/~atsiolas/commandos.jpg
-"SWAT force - ready to take care of those BFME2 voters..."

jasonirma 01-31-2006 03:56 PM

These are fundamentally different RTS games. I played the beta for BFME2 and EAW. They both tickle my fancy on different levels. BFME2 has some very nice features reminiscent of prior RTS games: real-time battlefield strategic building coupled with very nice graphics. I am really intrigued by its hero mode, where you create a character to battle within the LotR landscape; that is a very creative idea and one that will really enhance online gameplay. EAW, set in my favorite galaxy, the SW universe, has capitalized on both a land and space battle which is fairly novel for the genre. The cinematic mode (while needing some tweaks) and the movie modes both make for a "greater than the game itself" experience. I have followed Petroglyph's comments about how the demo and the shipping version are very different in some regards (most notably speed of unit development), and I can say without doubt that this product was beyond ambitious and looks to be, for lack of a better pun, stellar. My gameplay in both will be different from the other game adding to the hard drive fun :).

That said, I have been overwhelmingly impressed by the interaction of the Devs with this community. Having felt victimized by SWG (big time), I am truly humbled by Petroglyph's communication and interaction with the community. These guys are listening and responding and I definitely feel that they are going to keep this game interesting and new. Notwithstanding, they took on a Herculean task and a community that is more than just a little picky about canon (which I find to be one of the fun things about SW anyway). My morale is exceptionally high with Petroglyph. Additionally, the modders for EAW have been hard at work with the DEMO...the DEMO for goodness sakes! What can I possibly say about people who have given of themselves to help improve a DEMO? A lot of good people out there...thank you.

In short, EAW, its devs, and this community demonstrate the sheer strength of this game. So, EAW got my vote. "You had me at hello..." LOL

Athanasios 01-31-2006 04:43 PM

Heh, nice conclusion jasonirma, at the beggining i thought you were one of them (i don't want to mention their names... :dozey: ) and was ready to command some SWAT guys to make you "change" your opinion, but in the last you make up your status in this forum (i hope you didn't believe Popcorn's words "everyone's entitled to have a fair opinion", they're just for ad of this "democratic" forum, since he told me to get some SWAT ppl for some "bugs" we had in this discussion :^: )

Yup, Petro seems very interactive with communities, i guess they either planned a nice marketting policy or they make it because they feel so (or both :)). Nice beginning, for a newly-born company.

http://users.auth.gr/~atsiolas/commandos.jpg
-"SWAT force - ready to take care of those BFME2 voters..."

Jan Gaarni 01-31-2006 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonirma
In short, EAW, its devs, and this community demonstrate the sheer strength of this game. So, EAW got my vote. "You had me at hello..." LOL

Hahaha, pun intended? :D :D :D

Yes, this game is going to be great.

And waht's even more great, even I are going to be able to alter things in it. :)

Not much, been fiddeling abit around with the xml files, changing some "squadron" values (is it too late, Delphi, to change this to be called Flights, which would be a much more accurate description of the "squadron" sizes in the game? :) ) like rebels having 3 ships per flight in classic a delta formation, and TIE Fighters in the upright 4 ship flight in the diamond formation we see in most flight sim games. :)

I also fiddled around abit with the number of pulses each fighter shoots and their recharge rate, in that I lowered the amount to the number of cannons they have. This of course required me to also lower the accuracy and burst value of the anti fighter ships. I think I have it at a reasonable balance. :)
But I'm sure I'm in reality favouring the Imperial side. :D

Apocalypse|TFL 01-31-2006 05:43 PM

There are few companies or groups of game makers that are starting to wise up to the fact that players are getting tired to being ripped off with poorly made games. It can only be a good thing.


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