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Commander Obi-Wan 02-07-2006 06:59 PM

Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle-Earth II
 
Yes, you've heard about. And most of you voted against it in a recent poll between BFME II and EaW. It's the sequel to Battle for Middle-Earth. An okay game that many thouht it was a dissappointment. Well, now its sequel is being released. Now, you can create-a-hero, play on maps from the books, naval combat, and much more. There is also a demo coming out very soon and the game is going to be released in about three weeks time. Well, there you have it. I certainly am hyped up about the game.

Anyway.....here are some links to the game site.

BFME II
BFME II Demo
BFME II Gamespot

popcorn2008 02-07-2006 08:00 PM

I'll give the demo a try, I didnt play the first one though. While I am a LOTRs fan, I generally like star wars more. But it does look intereasting.

Snafu7 02-07-2006 08:56 PM

I didn't play the first one either, but I guess I'll check this out when the demo is out.

Commander Obi-Wan 02-07-2006 10:40 PM

As will I. There was also a beta. If you pre-ordered the game, you could download it, but I my friend tried it and the process took forever and never really got to play. But, I did play the first game which was decent. IMO.

Darth Andrew 02-07-2006 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by popcorn2008
I'll give the demo a try, I didnt play the first one though. While I am a LOTRs fan, I generally like star wars more. But it does look intereasting.

Ditto. To me it looks a lot better than the first one.

Thrawn 02-08-2006 10:51 AM

I thought the first one was more of a Hero RTS than anything else. Sure there were other units around, but when push came to shove, the heroes and powers won the battle. In that sense, I thought it was awesome. But as an RTS with full scale armies clashing, it was lacking. I'll be buying this one most likely, unless the demo really turns me off.

Commander Obi-Wan 02-08-2006 07:08 PM

Ahhh....somebody created a poll. Sweet! I'll probably still buy the game even if the demo is incredibly crappy. Meh. I should be decent. It's 1.3 GB. But, you never know.

Jeff 02-09-2006 08:44 AM

I wasn't even planning on trying the demo, but I'll probably try that out and if it's any good, buy it when it's been out a while and the price drops.

Commander Obi-Wan 02-09-2006 07:42 PM

Well, anyway, right now I am downloading the demo. But I restarted it. Well, when I got home I downloaded from Gamespot. I reached 10% after two hours of downloading. So, then somebody told me about Internet Download Manager and I had the reset my PC. I did but this time I used File Planet (but doesn't reall matter what you use. Anyway, I have reached 15% in about 15 minutes. So, I'd suggest trying IDM.

Well, anyway feel free to ask any questions about it and I'll post some screenshots.

popcorn2008 02-09-2006 08:38 PM

Just finished playing part of the first tutorial. It sure wasnt as captivating as EaW's tutorial was, but of course I am slightly biased. It really felt to me like the same old RTS formula only LoTR style. It is becoming apparent that game developers are gonna have to change up the formula or else only specilized customers will buy. What I mean is, only LoTR fans will buy this game, not the general RTS fans. Of course, this may not be the case but for me it is.

I'll give it anouther go tommorow, just a skirmish or the advanced tutorial. But the basic one was just boring and it had bugs in it. I could tell it was the same old engine as Generals too, even after all these years they cant start fresh. Im sure glad EaW has a new engine to play around with.

So far, im not impressed, but i'll give it anouther go tommorow.

Commander Obi-Wan 02-09-2006 11:05 PM

Finally got it download. Phew....about time. Anyway, so far it's okay. The tutorial was sorta boring. But....meh. I'll play more tomorrow. Time to go to bed. *Yawn*

swphreak 02-10-2006 07:13 PM

After playing it, I'm not impressed. I had 4 goblin groups attacking 1 dwarf group, and they didn't kill a thing. I may just pass up on BFME2 afterall. I already uninstalled the demo.

Commander Obi-Wan 02-12-2006 09:04 PM

After playing it a few times, I am actually impressed. The game poses more of a challenge than the first game. I have mostly played as the Dwarves and have only used 2 of the Heros. Dain and Gimli (there is also Gloin), Dain is pretty good and Gimli is still the same as in BFME. Though he is still powerful the units are pretty sweet.

Now, there is mines for your resource collector (at least for the Dwarves and Goblins)but the Goblins do have Lumber Mills also.) For the Dwarves, you can get such powers as, Barrage (Rocks barrage an area), Earthquake, "Building Healer" (can't remember what it's called :xp:), and Heal. Though there is more than that. And for Goblins, you have War Chant (increases attack), Dragon, Balrog, and allies such as Wild Men, and Goblin/Cave Liars. And there is more than this.

Though I wasn't able to create a hero. I can't wait to create own when the game comes out. Anyway.....

-Commander Obi-Wan

jedi3112 02-13-2006 09:47 AM

Nice demo, but I stilll think EAW is much better. But at elast they dropped the castles and stuff and used a free build mode. And I would like to create my own heros as well (without modding one in that is). Walls aren't really usefull though, unless you build them to place weapons on them. It's a vast improvement of the previous game, but some things still need a few changes.

lukeiamyourdad 02-13-2006 12:52 PM

Walls are crap because they cost too much. With the money spent on walls, you can make a big load of units who will be more useful in both attack and defense.

Commander Obi-Wan 02-13-2006 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lukeiamyourdad
Walls are crap because they cost too much. With the money spent on walls, you can make a big load of units who will be more useful in both attack and defense.

I just increase the resource total when you choose the maps. I increase it to 4000.

lukeiamyourdad 02-13-2006 09:12 PM

So what? Doesn't make them more cost-effective.
You're just saying that if you have more ressources you can afford more expensive stuff. Well, that ain't news to anyone.

However, this is pricing a 1990 Honda Civic the price of a fully armored Humvee. It's overpriced compared to its usefulness.

Commander Obi-Wan 02-14-2006 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lukeiamyourdad
So what? Doesn't make them more cost-effective.
You're just saying that if you have more ressources you can afford more expensive stuff. Well, that ain't news to anyone.

However, this is pricing a 1990 Honda Civic the price of a fully armored Humvee. It's overpriced compared to its usefulness.

I was just pointing out the possibly of increasing it so you'd have more resources to spent on walls. I personally don't think they are that expensive.

Anyway, if you go to the official site BFME II (hopefully this link works XP), there is some new videos under Middle Earth Monday. There is a sweet video for the armies of Mordor and Isengard.
spoiler:
Isengard has the Tower of Orthanc has its "advantage" on the fortress. The special ability for Orthanc is a lightning-type of attack. And Mordor has the Tower of Barad-Dur. It has a fire ability.

Thrawn 02-14-2006 04:10 PM

I agree that walls are way too expensive to be of any use, especially when the goblins can just climb right over.

And holy crap, some of these powers are insanely powerful. The earthquake can demolish most of the enemy buildings and knock off all the additions to the fortress.

All in all, I like the game, but EAW will be taking priority. It just seems to be more balanced and doesn't have the worry of taking an hour to beat your foe back to his base only to have a dragon spawn in yours.

EAWFAN 02-14-2006 05:35 PM

well im not a lotr fan because i think they copied star wars with the good and evil stuff(alot of movies are starting to do that) and i dont really like movies that are obsesed with objects(ring) im giving the demo a try but nothing can ever match star wars ever IMO

lukeiamyourdad 02-14-2006 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Obi-Wan
I was just pointing out the possibly of increasing it so you'd have more resources to spent on walls. I personally don't think they are that expensive.

Are you sure? A tiny portion can cost 300 gold + the wall hub. Pretty darn expensive when you compare it to the units.

Again, pointing that out was fairly useless since this is more of a balance issue then a monetary one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EAWFAN
well im not a lotr fan because i think they copied star wars with the good and evil stuff

Yeah, LotR copied Star Wars even if the books first came out back in the 60's and Star Wars only came out in 1977. Yeah...and Star Wars invented the whol e good vs evil concept...because it only existed in the late 20th century and not since the dawn of time.

DS_Vespidbat 02-14-2006 06:45 PM

i can tell u like to exagerate(sp?)
im not even going to try the demo, doesnrt look appealing to me and ya i am getting tired or gathering resources for like an 1 hour and soon die in 5 mins...i dont like heros being so strong that it might take 100 or more units to kill it

Commander Obi-Wan 02-14-2006 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lukeiamyourdad
Are you sure? A tiny portion can cost 300 gold + the wall hub. Pretty darn expensive when you compare it to the units.

Again, pointing that out was fairly useless since this is more of a balance issue then a monetary one.

Ummm......it cost me about 100 gold per wall portion for me. And a wall hub 200 gold. What you said sounds expensive, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DS_Vespidbat
im not even going to try the demo, doesnrt look appealing to me and ya i am getting tired or gathering resources for like an 1 hour and soon die in 5 mins...i dont like heros being so strong that it might take 100 or more units to kill it

I don't mid collecting resources. I think EaW is influencing gamers away for resource collecting....meh. You don't die in like 5 min if you stratigize your attacks and defense. Also, using the armies advantages help. Meh. I am stilling getting the game and I like the game.

EAWFAN 02-14-2006 08:04 PM

is there any places were i can get a 400kbps+ and almost no wait im still in line at filefront because im only getting dial up speed every where else including gamespots website(i do have cable internet)

Commander Obi-Wan 02-14-2006 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EAWFAN
is there any places were i can get a 400kbps+ and almost no wait im still in line at filefront because im only getting dial up speed every where else including gamespots website(i do have cable internet)

Try http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/gam...final.exe.html and I'd suggest downloading Internet Download Manager.

EAWFAN 02-14-2006 10:49 PM

thanks man im only on 14 percent after 2 hours :( i have a cable connection!

Thrawn 02-15-2006 09:39 AM

It took me 13 hours to download it off of filefront before, and that's with a cable connection.


I think the wall prices should be 75 a section. That will allow dwarves at least a chance. The add ons to the walls can stay the same prices.

Commander Obi-Wan 02-15-2006 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrawn
It took me 13 hours to download it off of filefront before, and that's with a cable connection.


I think the wall prices should be 75 a section. That will allow dwarves at least a chance. The add ons to the walls can stay the same prices.

Yeah, it would have took me 36 hours but I used IDM. Yeah, I think the walls should be cheaper, I guess, though I might change in the actual game.

ActofWar 02-15-2006 02:35 PM

It took me 2 hours to download the Demo, at first i wasn't really impressed, it looked and felt like the orginal BFME, but, now ive played it a few times, i am enjoying it.

Exspenally when Golum turned up, killed him, he droped the ring, took the ring to my fort, and then collected 10,000 resorses and created SAURON. (I was playing as the goblins), a apprentaly theres the Eleven Witch for the dwarfs if your able to get the ring.

Commander Obi-Wan 02-15-2006 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ActofWar
It took me 2 hours to download the Demo, at first i wasn't really impressed, it looked and felt like the orginal BFME, but, now ive played it a few times, i am enjoying it.

Exspenally when Golum turned up, killed him, he dropped the ring, took the ring to my fort, and then collected 10,000 resorses and created SAURON. (I was playing as the goblins), apparently, theres the Elven Witch for the dwarfs if your able to get the ring.

Fixed. Your spelling and punctutuion needs work. ;)

Anyway, ya the "Elven Witch" is Galadriel. And where did you find Gollum? I can't find him.

EAWFAN 02-15-2006 07:00 PM

ok you people are talking are forign language to me i have never seen any lotr movies or read any of the books can some one give me a paragraph or so on what happens in lord of the rings. :quote: ya the "Elven Witch" is Galadriel. And where did you find Gollum? I can't find him. :quote: like righ there who are these people do they really matter. im in 30% on the demo on xfire it would have been downloaded by now but i forgot to og in on xfire this morning at 8 and then i went to school im luckly getting 230kbps :):):) and is this like gbg with the collecting type of thing where there are 4 diffrent things you can and need to collect or is it like EAW where you only need credits. thanks, EAWFAN

Jeff 02-15-2006 07:04 PM

Use the Internet, Luke.

EAWFAN 02-15-2006 09:01 PM

thanks darth moeller for the link finnaly at 98% and im wondering in YOUR opinions if this game is worth buying and is it like the first one(better or worse) havent played the first one and am thinking of getting it dont know though

Commander Obi-Wan 02-15-2006 09:58 PM

UPDATE: Here's some videos for IGN - IGN preview of BFME II

ActofWar 02-16-2006 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Obi-Wan
Anyway, ya the "Elven Witch" is Galadriel. And where did you find Gollum? I can't find him.

Golum seems to be a "Random Event", you have no idea where he'll turn up or should i say IF he turns up.

Commander Obi-Wan 02-16-2006 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ActofWar
Golum seems to be a "Random Event", you have no idea where he'll turn up or should i say IF he turns up.

Thanx, though I found him already. XP

MTV2 02-17-2006 02:12 PM

whoa, i was gunna download the demo but saw it was 1.37 gb and that would take forever on my wimpy 256k...which downloads sometimes at like 30kb/s >.<


edit: ha, try downloading it and was going at around 30-31kb/s and an estimated time of around 13 hours >.<

Thrawn 02-17-2006 03:53 PM

Yup, that's how long it ended up taking me.

Commander Obi-Wan 02-27-2006 02:02 PM

The demo would have taken me 28 hours if it wasn't for IDM. :)

So, ya, I have played the demo, it got repetitve. Though, I did get to us Suaron and Galadrial. Both fun to use. Though I'd prefer Sauron because of his special powers. I also like using the heroes. Like Gloin and Gimli are awesome ans so is Dain. Dorgoth, I think, is a dragon who pwns all, and Gorkil, the Goblin King, was fun to use, as was Shelob. I prefer using the Dwarves over the Goblins. I guess I like them more.

Though, I can't wait to use the Elves, and other force. And thank goddness it's Teacher's Convention on Thursday, so I can get it before the rush. And I have already pre-ordered it from EB Games.

Commander Obi-Wan 02-28-2006 05:50 PM

Another UPDATE: http://www.ea.com/official/lordofthe...-earth_Mondays
More videos. The release of the game is in about 2 days.


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