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Halo_92 07-01-2006 12:59 AM

clone vs storm strooper?
 
The question explains it, all you decide...................

Bomberman65 07-01-2006 04:36 AM

Well some Stormys are real soliders like Kyle Katarn, when he was one, and his squad but most of them suck so I'd go with clones cause they were bred for war. Stormys were found and trained out of real guys. So I'd go with Clones. Clone Commandos more but thats just me.

taclled 07-01-2006 05:19 AM

i agree with bomberman65.
clones would win

MachineCult 07-01-2006 05:51 AM

Yeah, Clones blatantly, no contest.

-Synthetik- 07-01-2006 06:59 AM

Clones, come on, a bunch of janga fetts and a bunch of normal citizen made troopers, thats no contest at all. Especially with ARC troopers and commandos ;)

Niner_777 07-01-2006 09:34 AM

I'd say that clones are better. In BF2 it makes it sound like the stormtrooper armor and weapons are better, but at least the clones could hit targets, unlike the stormtroopers, judging from the movies.

Halo_92 07-01-2006 08:56 PM

I know, a little off topic, but do any of you have a Myspace profile?

Bomberman65 07-01-2006 11:06 PM

No!

Halo_92 07-01-2006 11:23 PM

oh. you seem a little agitated. why?

TK-8252 07-01-2006 11:33 PM

Stay on topic.

And just so everyone knows, most Stormtroopers are clones as well... only a small percentage of them are made up of conscripts/recruits.

But clearly, Clones Troopers FTW...

Bomberman65 07-02-2006 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by halo92
oh. you seem a little agitated. why?

No I'm not agitated I was just giving it to you plain, simple and short.
Sorry if I seemed that way but back on topic.

Halo_92 07-02-2006 05:39 PM

Right. I prefer clones (Epi. III) but storms are pretty good too maybe the storms in the movies aren't the best in the world? But heck what do I know.

taclled 07-02-2006 11:36 PM

Exactly what DO you Žknow. not much as far as i can tell. lol jk

Alan Frost 07-03-2006 02:42 AM

Listen, Clones are better anytime, anywhere! How Im ok with Kyle but seriosly, when did the rest of the bunch do anything right?

All they do is just getting killed in the movies, and in the games. So stormys 0 Clones 66 :)

Bomberman65 07-03-2006 04:28 AM

Nice one alan frost. I like the touch Clones 66. Order 66??
Also the stormys with Kyle like Sgt. Maj. Hong and his Squad of stormys they kicked ass as well. Read Solider for the Empire and you'll see what I mean.

Niner_777 07-03-2006 09:47 AM

As I've never played that game, my only knowledge is of stormtroopers comes from the movies, really. Of course stormtroopers are good on BF/2, but that's only when you're playing as them. :)

MachineCult 07-03-2006 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Niner_777
As I've never played that game, my only knowledge is of stormtroopers comes from the movies, really.

What game are you refering to?

TSR 07-03-2006 01:41 PM

urgh, im gonna have to go against the motion and say the stormtroopers. Like bomberman said, people like kyle katarn were once them, and when the clones got all imperialised, they had their weapons and armour upgraded. And also, with the ability to think freely on the battlefield (unlike the clones) it would grant the stormtroopers a tactical advantage.

TK-8252 07-03-2006 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by venom_tyrant
And also, with the ability to think freely on the battlefield (unlike the clones) it would grant the stormtroopers a tactical advantage.

Again, like I said, most Stormtroopers *are* clones. So most would not be able to think freely. And actually, the ability to think freely would not be an advantage. It would allow them their emotions, fear, anger, etc. to interfere with their mission.

TSR 07-03-2006 01:51 PM

and also be able to determine the best form of attack in a combat situation. Anyway, the only legion that stayed the same after the change from clones to Imperials was the 501st. Emotions would also give them the will to live i.e if they had family or friends, they would be more determined to survive than the clones, which, ironically rhymes with drones.

TK-8252 07-03-2006 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venom_tyrant
and also be able to determine the best form of attack in a combat situation. Anyway, the only legion that stayed the same after the change from clones to Imperials was the 501st. Emotions would also give them the will to live i.e if they had family or friends, they would be more determined to survive than the clones, which, ironically rhymes with drones.

If you listened to what the Kaminoians said in AotC, they can still think and respond, unlike droids. They just don't have the emotion that causes a lot of real soldiers to lose it in battle. Clones make an ultimate army.

TSR 07-03-2006 02:42 PM

if they mad ethe ultimate army, why were they changed when the empire was formed? i doubt they would make their army worse...

TK-8252 07-03-2006 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by venom_tyrant
if they mad ethe ultimate army, why were they changed when the empire was formed? i doubt they would make their army worse...

Well, they did make it worse, actually. Incompetence took a toll on the Imperial forces as unworthy hosts were chosen as templates for new clones. Officers would pick, say their cousin, over someone better fit for cloning.

Bomberman65 07-03-2006 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Niner_777
As I've never played that game, my only knowledge is of stormtroopers comes from the movies, really. :)

What game its a book in the Dark Forces trilogy. Solider for the Empire, Rebel Agent and Jedi Knight.

taclled 07-03-2006 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TK-8252
If you listened to what the Kaminoians said in AotC, they can still think and respond, unlike droids. They just don't have the emotion that causes a lot of real soldiers to lose it in battle. Clones make an ultimate army.

Thats not true they have emotions just they dont know what they are and therefore dont respond to them most of the time. And in this case im talking about love read thes books: both republic commando books and The Cestus Deception. they arnt taught how to cope with emotions or what they are or mean.

Niner_777 07-03-2006 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MachineCult
What game are you refering to?

I was refering to the game with Kyle in it.

taclled 07-03-2006 06:58 PM

Jedi Outcast???

TK-8252 07-03-2006 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taclled
Thats not true they have emotions just they dont know what they are and therefore dont respond to them most of the time. And in this case im talking about love read thes books: both republic commando books and The Cestus Deception. they arnt taught how to cope with emotions or what they are or mean.

Not talking about commandos. I'm talking about the front-line troopers.

taclled 07-03-2006 07:33 PM

okay read the Cestus Deception

Halo_92 07-04-2006 12:35 AM

I will eat and crap out your souls.

taclled 07-04-2006 02:35 AM

WHAT?????

-Synthetik- 07-04-2006 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by halo92
I know, a little off topic, but do any of you have a Myspace profile?

Yeah, www.myspace.com/synthetik

and to stay on topic...

Yeah most of the stormtroopers were clones too, but the diversity is also their downfall. And supposedly stormtrooper armor was a little less bulkier and stuff. but seriously, watching the movies, stormtroopers cant aim for shiite. If they were trained properly, i dont think the princess leia rescue mission wouldnt even get half way accomplished...

TSR 07-04-2006 05:51 AM

i like how the first paragraph on your myspace totally contradicts the 8 semi-naked girls you have on your top 8 ;)

taclled 07-04-2006 05:59 AM

Venom What in the name of jedi master yoda are you talking about

Lord_Andre 07-04-2006 08:11 AM

Clones VS Stormes:
Stormes loose because they are normal recruits and because they
aren't bred for war.
Clones win because they are clones of a mandalorian and mandalorians are bred for war. :vadar:

taclled 07-04-2006 08:54 AM

some stormies are also clones

Alan Frost 07-04-2006 11:35 AM

So tell me Lord Andre,

''What do you think about what the true warrior is?''

Answer this you receive a special prize:)

Halo_92 07-04-2006 11:43 AM

Synthetik nice mine is http://www.myspace.com/44224150.

Halo_92 07-04-2006 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taclled
WHAT?????

I MENT IT!

TSR 07-04-2006 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taclled
Venom What in the name of jedi master yoda are you talking about

synthetik's myspace ;)


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