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Firefox5424 07-23-2006 02:24 PM

Where do i get...
3DS max 8?? ONe, does it cost money? two, does it have a trial. three, what is its website??

I currrently skin quite a bit.... but I have been wanting to start making custom models.

Also, another question, where do I find the .tga files for player models?

Last thing: I cant seem to find someone that knows, but ... how does the model system know that say for the Torso of a Stormtrooper model, its just a bunch of armor pieces... how does the game know what goes where??

I dont understand how that system works please can someone explain it to me.


LAST LAST THING LOL: If I want to start making custom models, how do I go about making one from scratch?



Psyk0Sith 07-23-2006 08:14 PM

Thats a lot of questions:

-3D max 8 costs money
-Yes it does have a 30 day trial

-The .tga files are located in .pk3 file of base folder (game directory). Use winzip to open the .pk3.

-I'm not sure what you mean, but the model has a hierarchy, limbs are linked together and use a naming convention that cannot be also uses a tag system to keep track of body parts location when cut off.

-To make a model from scratch, you first learn how to model :P, then you create your character around the JK3 skeleton, next you rig and then hierarchy model parts.

Read the tutorials on my website for more info.

Firefox5424 07-23-2006 10:01 PM

sweet thx

but what i mean is... how does the computer know what goes where in a picture of stormtrooper limbs?? its just a bunch of limbs???? how exactly do I make the computer know what is supposed to go where in the finished 3d product?

Psyk0Sith 07-24-2006 01:23 AM

You mean the UV layout?

Basically the modeler transfers the 3D surface to 2D, while using maximum texture space. Each polygon has its own space on the texture sheet so it can be painted on.

The scientific version:
"UV mapping is a 3D modelling process of making a 2D map representing a 3D model. This map is associated with an image known as a texture. In contrast to "X", "Y" and "Z", which are the coordinates for the original 3D object in the modelling space, "U" and "V" are the coordinates of this transformed map of the surface. Then the image is back-transformed ("wrapped") onto the surface of the 3D object."

Firefox5424 07-25-2006 01:03 AM

wait a sec... *slaps self in head* ..... you make the model in 3d first then it transfers into that 2d thing you can skin......

if yes slap me a few more times =)

Psyk0Sith 07-25-2006 01:38 PM

You build the 3d model and then you need to "tell" the software/game engine how you want your 3d model to be painted (the process is called unwrap)...the 3d mesh is always there. Your 3d mesh contains UV coordinates they represent "up/down left/right" on your 2D texture sheet, those new coordinates are stored within the 3D model, if not your model cannot use textures.

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