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Emperor Devon 08-20-2006 01:39 AM

Resurrections
 
Of late, I've noticed that some threads have been resurrected after several months or years of no posts. I looked at the new forum rules forums again, and noticed that there was nothing there about bringing back old threads. Although bumping is covered, there's nothing on the specific subject of resurrecting threads after they've not had any posts in a while. I think it should be mentioned that you shouldn't bring back long-dead threads if you don't have something important to mention about the topic.

ChAiNz.2da 08-20-2006 10:17 AM

It only helps when people actually read the damn rules :xp: hehehe..

However there are a few Forums in which the "No Bump" or "No Ressurection" doesn't apply..

Mainly,

- the Taris City Upper Emporium, since it's for feedback on mods, and can point out possible bugs... and the fact that new mods are constantly being added, it's best to keep a no restrictions on this area. Besides, old mod or not, feedback is always a good thing ;)

- The same goes for T3-M4's Astromech Droid Center...

However, for the most part, I agree with you Emperor Devon :)

We had hoped that common sense would tell a person that no replies in over a year pretty much means the topic is dead.. but, ya' gotta lurve the intardnet ;)
Also, in some rare cases.. the poster totally overlooked the last post date (or didn't bother checking it in the first place).. yah, to not cast blame.. I've been guilty of that one myself :o

Luckily we have that nice "edit this" function .. hehehe..

Darth333 08-20-2006 10:41 AM

As ChAiNz said, there may be various reasons to post in an old thread and some posts can sometimes add something useful and revive a good discussion. A few other examples would be reviving an old tech help thread when the poster experiences issues similar to what has already been posted or posting in an old modding thread that discusses a specific issue (we aren't going to blame people for using the search function in such cases!). Sometimes a post can add something useful to an old but interesting general topic and revive a good discussion.

However, things like reviving old threads just for the sake of annoyance or posting one liners like "omg yeah me 2!" at the end of a 2yr old thread falls within the trolling/spamming category. It's a case by case situation and we already have rules to cover the unwanted situations.

Diego Varen 08-20-2006 01:02 PM

Hey ED, some of your topics have been ressurected and they are all by ViperSkeele. Strange?

Emperor Devon 08-20-2006 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth333
Sometimes a post can add something useful to an old but interesting general topic and revive a good discussion.

I realize that. I just said that threads shouldn't be resurrected if there's nothing that's important to the disucussion. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth333
However, things like reviving old threads just for the sake of annoyance or posting one liners like "omg yeah me 2!" at the end of a 2yr old thread falls within the trolling/spamming category.

I agree. But many of the recently resurrected threads I've seen technically aren't spam, though. One thread in the Padawan's Lounge was brought back when someone mentioned a tip on something, though it was the same as a tip someone else had mentioned and was stated in a different manner. One thread of mine in the Workbench was brought back when someone had some pointers to share, except the situation had been resolved months ago.

@Pottsie, I think it's just a coincidence.

igyman 08-21-2006 02:38 PM

Hmmm, there's a problem I've been meaning to mention somewhere and this seems like a thread it would fit in.

Namely, about two, two and a half months ago I took a look at the sort of resurrected thread in the Telos Tourist Bureau called ''Are Arren Kae and Kreia the same person?'', I noticed that the people who revived the discussion were simply repeating word-by-word the already stated and repeated arguments. As a friendly and considerate six months old forumite (at that time, now it's almost nine months) I tried to get them to post some new reasons for their opinions (those were mostly new members so I was doing my best to be extra nice and friendly :D), they didn't quite listen to me, so since I don't actually have any authority over them I dropped it.

The point of me telling this is the following question: Do you consider that sort of thread revival unjustified? (I'm asking because I don't remember any warnings from the mods in the case I mentioned)

RedHawke 08-22-2006 12:28 AM

Everyone, if you see a questionable post, like one ressurecting the thread like igy states above that the new posts are word-for-word copies of an earlier post simply use the 'Report a post' feature on the ressurection post and state the post number that they are copying in that thread and we will definitely handle it. That type of post counts as simple spam. ;)

igyman 08-22-2006 10:00 AM

Thanks, RH, I suspected as much. One last thing, I must be blind or something, but I just can't find the ''report post'' option anywhere.

ChAiNz.2da 08-22-2006 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igyman
Thanks, RH, I suspected as much. One last thing, I must be blind or something, but I just can't find the ''report post'' option anywhere.

It's right below the avatar/info.. you should see 2 dots...

The 2nd "dot" is the report bad post :)

igyman 08-22-2006 10:58 AM

So it is. I never bothered to figure that out. Thanks.

RC-1162 08-22-2006 08:17 PM

@ ChAiNz: i think bumping should be conditionally allowed in the CEC too, don't you? what i mean is, the poster should be giving only reviews/suggestions/tips on the fic that he/she "bumped". if it's spam, then i guess you have it covered :D

Darth333 08-22-2006 08:25 PM

We don't have any problems with feedback posts, whether it is for mods, fanfics or fanart! Feedback definitely doesn't fall within the spam category.

Emperor Devon 08-22-2006 11:43 PM

This is a bit off topic, but it would be appreciated if someone could tell me what these 'referrals' are.

RedHawke 08-23-2006 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Devon
This is a bit off topic, but it would be appreciated if someone could tell me what these 'referrals' are.

That info is in the FAQ...

Specifically here. ;)

Emperor Devon 08-23-2006 12:24 AM

Ah, that explains it. Thanks for the link.

:D -RH

Mav 08-24-2006 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Devon
This is a bit off topic, but it would be appreciated if someone could tell me what these 'referrals' are.

As far as referrals are concerned is that why some folks, like Achilles have a + next to their name when listed as an active browser?

As far as rezzing threads go, I know you all fear the day when my old W.I.P. thread rises from the ashes like a phoenix who has suffered five too many cardiac arrests...

edit: response to below: oooohhhh, thank you :D

The Doctor 08-24-2006 11:29 PM

No, users have a + sign next to their names on the active users bar when they're on your friends list.

HerbieZ 08-25-2006 07:17 PM

I strongly disagree to the strictness of bringing back threads. There is a VERY fine line between repeateing an old topic and bringing up a dead one. It wis one that leaneancy should be applied, i do a search to see if the topic has been mentioned before and if it has, i post in it. It's common sence, it's HERBIE SENSE.


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