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Dagobahn Eagle 11-08-2006 02:38 PM

Rumsfeld resigns as Secretary of Defence
 
Believe it or not, but Donald Rumsfeld has apparently resigned as Secretary of defense.
Quote:

WASHINGTON - Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld stepped down as defense secretary on Wednesday, one day after midterm elections in which opposition to the war in Iraq contributed to heavy Republican losses.
Wow. Just wow. Now I only worry that his successor might be just as bad as him. I know nothing of this R. Gates.

manoman81 11-08-2006 03:55 PM

Yeah I don't know how this will work out. I'm happy he's gone but at the same time who's going to be next? There's a lot of questions that need be answered since it looks like, for the moment, that there will be a party change in Congress. Next spring should be pretty interesting I think...

Totenkopf 11-08-2006 04:15 PM

Generally, appointments like Gates (this far into an administration) probably won't have a significant impact on overall policy. All the more so b/c his position will only last two years (does anyone really think the next prez won't be a dem?). Still, DE, you could always google him if you're remotely curious.

Windu Chi 11-08-2006 04:49 PM

Good riddance ! :)
One down a lot more to go.

Jae Onasi 11-08-2006 06:26 PM

I think I heard on the radio today that he's a former CIA director but I could be wrong. Rumsfeld needed to go a long time ago.

Mace MacLeod 11-08-2006 06:29 PM

^^Yup. Robert Gates, CIA director under Dubya Sr. Just imagine the laughs they must have together...

TK-8252 11-08-2006 08:54 PM

This White House must be retarded. They waited until AFTER the election to fire Rumsfeld. If they fired him a week ago they could have held Congress.

Mace MacLeod 11-08-2006 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TK-8252
This White House must be retarded.

Where've you been...?

Emperor Devon 11-08-2006 09:10 PM

Heh, the wiki article is already closed to new users.

Rumsfeld was not the best of people to hold that post. But with the needless war in Iraq, will Gates be able to any better? I'm curious to see.

Det. Bart Lasiter 11-08-2006 10:29 PM

Well, at least Gates has plenty of experience.

Totenkopf 11-08-2006 11:33 PM

Yeah, but then so did Rumsfeld.

Det. Bart Lasiter 11-08-2006 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Totenkopf
Yeah, but then so did Rumsfeld.

I'm trying to have a positive mindset. Negative Nancy.

Totenkopf 11-09-2006 04:25 AM

Ok, gloomy gus. A little sunshine for you then. Apparently Gates seems to be in favor of engaging in a dialogue with Iran. Better than turning a deaf ear, eh?

edlib 11-09-2006 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mace MacLeod
Where've you been...?

QFE!
(I actually laughed out loud at that! :D )

Perhaps Rove isn't quite the strategist he's been made out to be... or Bush was just too damn stubborn to listen to him on Rumsfeld this whole time.
I personally think Bush actually believed that there was no way the Republicans were going to lose this time, so there was really no reason to let Rummy go.

Jae Onasi 11-09-2006 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Devon
Heh, the wiki article is already closed to new users.

Rumsfeld was not the best of people to hold that post. But with the needless war in Iraq, will Gates be able to any better? I'm curious to see.

He's been a deputy NSA along with the CIA director spot. I believe he's on the team that's headed up by Baker evaluating the situation in Iraq and how to resolve it. At least he might have some kind of mentality other than Rumsfeld's *insert Neanderthal grunt* "Ugh. Kill!"

Mace MacLeod 11-09-2006 02:26 PM

^^^Key word there being "might"...

Nancy Allen`` 11-09-2006 03:08 PM

Now how can democrats say that Iraq is bad? It got Bush out of the Senate and in the next two years the Republicans will lose by a landslide.

Det. Bart Lasiter 11-09-2006 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy Allen``
Now how can democrats say that Iraq is bad?

600,000 dead Iraqi civilians. 85% of the world hates us. We've created more terrorists there than we've captured there.

I for one would rather have a Republican government than all those things.

Nancy Allen`` 11-09-2006 03:42 PM

Same here. I cannot help but wonder if the Democrats in some way are greatful for the war because it turned America and the world against Bush.

Mace MacLeod 11-09-2006 04:34 PM

^^^Well, there's being grateful because a situation turns political winds in your directions, then there's being grateful for the situation itself. I rather doubt the Democrats are out there going, "Hey, Iraq is a cesspool of death and destruction! Great!" At least I hope they aren't.

Nancy Allen`` 11-09-2006 05:22 PM

I don't think anyone could cheer the devestation of Iraq, not if they had a shred of human decency. Al Qaeda do, for sure, but the situation in Iraq has played right into their hands. Hatred for America, removal of Saddam, attacks in direct response to the war, a hat trick.

Q 11-09-2006 08:16 PM

Well, Rummy was the first to read the writing on the wall. I wonder who'll be wise enough to follow him?

Emperor Devon 11-09-2006 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jae Onasi
At least he might have some kind of mentality other than Rumsfeld's *insert Neanderthal grunt* "Ugh. Kill!"

Heh, I've yet to see a mentality that could be even worse.

He's a family friend of the Bushes, it seems. Interesting.

Windu Chi 11-10-2006 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Devon
Heh, I've yet to see a mentality that could be even worse.

He's a family friend of the Bushes, it seems. Interesting.

Bush is going to keep replacing failures with friends of his family. :lol:
Until his ass is out of there.

Prime 11-10-2006 11:16 AM

As big as a mistake the whole thing is, let's see what the Democrats propose as solutions...

It isn't an easy problem to solve.


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