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Lt. Horn 08-01-2001 01:32 AM

Does Darth Vader...
 
...recognize C-3P0 in the movies? I mean he did create him.

Keyan Farlander 08-01-2001 06:58 AM

Well, C-3PO did look different back then (he didn't have his cover). Plus, one 3PO unit looks pretty much like any other. So, I would say that no, he does not.

Flying Beastie 08-01-2001 12:43 PM

I'll try this again since my comp just crashed.

In Star Wars Tales #5 (I think), there's a short story explaining ESB in light of the 3P0/Vader connection. It's actually a fairly good explanation.

Vader recognized Threepio, he just didn't acknowledge him because "Anakin Skywalker" was dead.

Quote:

"We'll have the droid scrapped."
"No."
"M'lord?"
"Give the droid to the wookiee. He cares for it."
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It's like I always say: When the going gets tough, the tough . . . switch to artillery.

[This message has been edited by Flying Beastie (edited August 01, 2001).]

Lt. Horn 08-01-2001 03:59 PM

Oh, ok that is interesting.

K_Kinnison 08-02-2001 12:40 AM

actaully He DID reconize the droid

in the Scene where they freeze han, and Chewie goes nutz, Boba lifts up his blaster and Vader pushes it down. he might not admit it, but i have herd reports that boba herd a sniffle coming from that big black dude

Flying Beastie 08-02-2001 04:49 PM

Yes, but Boba had much better aim than your average stormtrooper (a five-year-old with a squirt-gun has better aim than your average stormtrooper). He would've been able to hit Chewie without damaging the droid.

I think Vader stopped him because he (A) knew that the wookiee was, at that point, controllable, and (B) wasn't confident that one blaster shot would be enough to take down a really p*ssed off wookiee.

Quote:

"I'll shoot him."
"On stun! I'd rather have an angry wookiee than-- <small>What am I saying?</small> Full-power!"
--from an RPG

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It's like I always say: When the going gets tough, the tough . . . switch to artillery.

Nute Gunray 08-02-2001 06:02 PM

I think the reason for why Vader stopped Fett will always be unknown. It has to do with him wanting Chewie and the Princess taken away aboard Executor. Why he wanted THAT I dont' know, but if Fett had shot Chewie then that couldn't have happened.

edlib 08-03-2001 03:36 AM

Most likely Vader having the Princess and Chewie in his custody was a safty net of sorts in case Luke failed to take the bait at Cloud City. There is always the ransom factor to consider. The princess being situated as she was within the rebellion would be far too tempting a hostage for anyone to resist. Chewie was just a bonus. Vader must have known that Luke would have gone after them or would have surrendered himself for them.
That's the only thing I can figure anyway.
Or perhaps this was one of the events Lucas put in to show what Luke felt when he said "... there is still good left in him."

Admiral 08-04-2001 01:52 AM

I think that has more to do with it. I don't think Lucas planed on having Vader build 3po when ESB came out. Now it just is a good play.

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"Dulce bellum inexpertis."
(Sweet is war to those who have never experinced it.) Roman Proverb

Fondas 08-07-2001 06:16 AM

I've read somewhere that Vader never really met Threepio during the original trilogy...

Come to think of it, the only time they were in the same place were in Cloud City, where Threepio had been shot to pieces...

Flying Beastie 08-07-2001 06:29 PM

Yes Fondas. That's the scene we're discussing. Try to keep up.

http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/rolleyes.gif

<small>j/k</small>

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It's like I always say: When the going gets tough, the tough . . . switch to artillery.

aZnJedi588 08-07-2001 08:48 PM

did Darth really care? C3-PO obviously didn't remember his past life...

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"there is no bad guy, it depend's on who's side your on."

Admiral 08-08-2001 01:25 AM

3po has had his mind wipped for maintence in the past. that is why he doesn't reconize him.

Fondas 08-08-2001 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Admiral:
3po has had his mind wipped for maintence in the past. that is why he doesn't reconize him.
That would be a logical explanation, but I think that the memory wipe every six months is a concept od EU writters , i.e. Zahn/Stackpole.
Can it be considered canon ?

edlib 08-08-2001 11:52 AM

I'm sure there will be a scene in one of the upcoming movies after Anakin becomes Vader that Obi-Wan and Yoda are forced to erase all memory of Skywalker references from the droids for safety's sake. This will take place around the time they split up the twins and go into hiding themselves. Otherwise there is the danger of one of them blurting out the truth of the Skywalker family secret at an inoppertune moment, and ruining the plans of the Jedis.


Admiral 08-08-2001 05:34 PM

My explanation could be considered canon. In ANH Owen tells Luke to take the droids to get their memories wipped, just after they bought them from the Jawas and Luke thinks they belong to somebody else.


You can then conclude that it might not be every six months but it does happen, and 3po is an old droid so most likely at one time or another before he met Luke is memory was wipped.

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"Dulce bellum inexpertis."
(Sweet is war to those who have never experinced it.) Roman Proverb

Flying Beastie 08-08-2001 10:42 PM

I'll agree that Threepio has probably been mem-wiped repeatedly, but I'm sticking to my belief that, throughout the movies, R2 knows far more than he lets on.

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It's like I always say: When the going gets tough, the tough . . . switch to artillery.

edlib 08-09-2001 02:25 AM

Hmmmm. I almost said that myself. I guess I'm not the only one who picked up on that.

Admiral 08-09-2001 02:33 AM

R2 can actually talk.


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