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SykoRevan 02-22-2007 10:47 PM

What kind of lightsaber duelist were you?
 
I'm just curious as to what other people's strategies are when it comes to lightsaber combat. So here are the basic questions:


1) What classes are you?

2) What items do you equip? Did your Exile wear robes or armor?

3) What kind of lightsaber do you wield? Single, Dual, or Double-bladed? And what color?

4) What Lightsaber form do you use the most?

5) What Force Powers do you use to augment your saber skills? Or did you just use the Force as your blade?


As for me, I was a Jedi Guardian/Jedi Weapon Master, with Dark Jedi Master Robes, the Enhancement D-Package implant and the CNS Strength Enhancer. My guy wielded a single green saber with the "your name" crystal and the Solari Crystal. I was most partial to using Juyo, the Ferocity Form, and I hardly used aggressive Force Powers like Lightning or wave. But since I had all 3 powers that were used in Force Enlightenment, that made Force Enlightenment my favorite passive power. These combinations made me able to cut through Dark Jedi like a lightsaber through... well a lightsaber through Dark Jedi, really :D

Fish.Stapler 02-22-2007 10:55 PM

I've played the game a lot, so I have many combinations, I'll list one of my favorite ones here.

1. Sentinel/Watchman
2. Robes, since armor has that really low dex cap.
3. Single, purple, yellow, or green.
4. I switched often depending on the situation, since forms are situational it seems to me. I was mostly a practicioner of Shii-cho, and then Niman.
5. Wave, stasis field, all buff powers.

DARTH_DANZIG 02-23-2007 01:36 AM

I've got a question acutally. I play as consular, and only ever end up getting shii cho, mikashi and and the other basic one.
I've never gotten Niman specifically.
And I want to get it. How is this accomplished?

Fish.Stapler 02-23-2007 01:48 AM

there are 6 saber forms, and one basic force form.

Consulars learn 3 saber forms, and then the 4 force forms (1 basic, 3 from the jedi masters).

Sentinels and Guardians learn all 6 saber forms, but only the 1 basic force form.

So, you'd have to change what class you play to get these forms, or use KSE to add them to you. I'm pretty sure they're found under the force power section.

DARTH_DANZIG 02-23-2007 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish.Stapler
there are 6 saber forms, and one basic force form.

Consulars learn 3 saber forms, and then the 4 force forms (1 basic, 3 from the jedi masters).

Sentinels and Guardians learn all 6 saber forms, but only the 1 basic force form.

So, you'd have to change what class you play to get these forms, or use KSE to add them to you. I'm pretty sure they're found under the force power section.


Ok fishstapler, thanx.
Second, what is KSE, and is there any significant difference in using different force forms, both worth the relative gameplay, and in visual display of the combat simulator?(ie attack animations)

Diego Varen 02-23-2007 03:13 AM

1. What Classes are you?

My LSF Jedi Exile, Sera Tana was a Jedi Consular/Jedi Master.

2. What items do you equip? Did your Exile wear robes or armor?

Jedi Master Robes for me. I would have worn the Grey Jedi Robes, but I couldn't find them, so the best Jedi Master Robe in the game.

3. What kind of Lightsaber do you wield? Single, Dual, or Double-bladed? And what colour?

Single blue. Before the events of TSL, my Exile had a single yellow Lightsaber and if her single blue Lightsaber was destroyed, she would have a single green Lightsaber.

4. What Lightsaber form do you use the most?

Not sure. I'm not an expert with the Lightsaber Forms, so I used the default one.

5. What Force Powers do you use to augment your saber skills? Or did you just use the Force as your blade?

I used both the Force and the Lightsaber.

DARTH_DANZIG 02-23-2007 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topsite
1. What Classes are you?
Jedi Master Robes for me. I would have worn the Grey Jedi Robes, but I couldn't find them, so the best Jedi Master Robe in the game.

Grey jedi robe is in an urn in the exit room of the korriban "trial cave". Where you get the lightsaber and kreshs' war sword.

DarthZayne 02-23-2007 04:37 AM

1) Sith Marauder

2) all STR BOOST items , and i wear a robe

3) Dual

4) Juyo

5) Master speed.

and iam unstopable .

Vaelastraz 02-23-2007 05:42 AM

1.) Consular / Weaponmaster

2.) Robes, since my character relies on dex for combat

3.) Single saber (even though it is less powerful, I like the style), blue or red crystal

4.) Depends, usually Shien to make further benefit of single saber's increased critical strike

5.) Master speed for saber combat, offensive powers: lightning lvl 2, force wave, choke and stasis field.

Titanius Anglesmith 02-23-2007 02:29 PM

1.) Guardian/WeaponMaster

2.) Zeison Sha Warrior Armor, GNS Strength Enhancer, Physical Boost Package

3.) Dual sabers, both blue

4.) I use Shii-Cho mostly, then for the one on one battles, I used either Juyo or Makashi

5.) Since I always have the most advanced forms of the 3 powers involved in Force Enlightenment, I use it most often.

--------------

1.) Consular/Master

2.) Ossus Keeper Robe or Baran Do Sage Robe, Tech Specialist Belt, Mental Boost Package, Force Focusing Visor

3.) Dual sabers, both blue

4.) I mostly used the Force Form that all Jedi learn, I forgot it's name.

5.) Defensive Powers - Force Enlightenment (as I do with a Guardian, I had all the most advanced forms of the powers involved). Offensive powers - Force Wave, Stasis Field, and Destroy Droid.

legend222 02-23-2007 04:58 PM

For my canon Exile (I don't count what's announced unless it's the same as my view)

LSM

1 Jedi Guardian/Weaponmaster

2 Single or dual (blue or blue & green)

3 Jedi Master Robe

4 I use Juyo but I change it depemding on the situation

5 Light Side buffs and Force Wave and Force Lightning

For my non-canon Exile

DSM
1 Jedi Guardian/Marauder

2 Dual or double (red)

3 Dark Jedi Master Robe

4 Same as LSM

5 Force Storm, Drain, Wave and Crush

Fish.Stapler 02-23-2007 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARTH_DANZIG
Ok fishstapler, thanx.
Second, what is KSE, and is there any significant difference in using different force forms, both worth the relative gameplay, and in visual display of the combat simulator?(ie attack animations)


KSE is the KotOR Save Game Editor.

All that the force forms do is they modify how your powers are applied, they don't change visuals or anything, but they can improve force power regen or force power strength.

Another combo I'm fond of is...

1. Consular/Sith Lord
2. Robes, since armor has that really low dex cap and robes usually have better wisdom bonus.
3. Single, red.
4. I generally used the "high damage, high force power cost" force form since I had a near-unlimited supply of force and it increased pain-causing.
5. Kill, Death Field, Force Storm, Drain Force...all dark side powers.

Kas'!m 02-23-2007 06:59 PM

1) What classes are you?
Jedi Guardian/ Sith Marauder


2) What items do you equip? Did your Exile wear robes or armor?
Zeison Sha Warrior armor, Sith gauntlets, rebreather mask


3) What kind of lightsaber do you wield? Single, Dual, or Double-bladed? And what color?
dual orange and silver

4) What Lightsaber form do you use the most?

Juyo and Makashi

5) What Force Powers do you use to augment your saber skills? Or did you just use the Force as your blade?

master fury, burst of speed, force wave, horror, kill, crush, affliction

DARTH_DANZIG 02-23-2007 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish.Stapler
KSE is the KotOR Save Game Editor.

All that the force forms do is they modify how your powers are applied, they don't change visuals or anything, but they can improve force power regen or force power strength.

No no, I'm talking about saber form graphics, if there is a significance in visual representation of attacks.
Would be nie for a change, My guardian is still on telos, and I'll be picking up again shortly.

jonathan7 02-23-2007 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykoRevan
I'm just curious as to what other people's strategies are when it comes to lightsaber combat. So here are the basic questions:


1) What classes are you?

2) What items do you equip? Did your Exile wear robes or armor?

3) What kind of lightsaber do you wield? Single, Dual, or Double-bladed? And what color?

4) What Lightsaber form do you use the most?

5) What Force Powers do you use to augment your saber skills? Or did you just use the Force as your blade?

1) Sentinal/Weaponmaster

2) Robes... Artema's Robe tends to be one of my favoured ones

3) Single... Green

4) Depends whom I'm fighting.. Ataru if its one on one with other force sensetives.

5) I'm a lightsider so all LS ones apart from Force Choke (Luke does use it in RotJ on the Gammorean guards) Force Immunity is the main power I go with.

Eiganjo 02-23-2007 11:54 PM

1) What classes are you?
My Twilek LSF Exile is a Sentinel/Jedi Master (I seem to be the only one doing that)

2) What items do you equip? Did your Exile wear robes or armor?
I usually wear some self-made Bastila robes. Then I use all strength-boosting items I can find.

3) What kind of lightsaber do you wield? Single, Dual, or Double-bladed? And what color?
I usually wield 2 Silver lightsabers with I don't know which crystal, just the best stuff I can find without spending money for it

4) What Lightsaber form do you use the most?
Juyo, actually I use all of them from time to time

5) What Force Powers do you use to augment your saber skills? Or did you just use the Force as your blade?
I usually use Master stun, Destroy Droid, Force Storm, Master Heal, Battle Meditation, Force Enlightment,...oh, and Burst of Speed, Force wave, Horror, Kill and that revival thing, whatever it is called.(wow, that's a lot - That's why I like the Jedi Master) Basically, half of my enemies are dead, before I or my companions even get there.

Fish.Stapler 02-24-2007 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARTH_DANZIG
No no, I'm talking about saber form graphics, if there is a significance in visual representation of attacks.
Would be nie for a change, My guardian is still on telos, and I'll be picking up again shortly.

No, there is no change in graphics.

Might as well post another one so I stay on topic :)

1. Guardian/Weapon Master
2. Robes, since armor has that really low dex cap.
3. Dual Silver Sabers
4. Juyo.
5. Wave, stasis field, all buff powers.

DARTH_DANZIG 02-24-2007 12:37 AM

1. Consular/Master
2.Matukai until grey jedi robes
3.Dual sabers(off blue, on green)
4.Force mastery
5.Wave and heal

Rockstar 02-24-2007 05:52 AM

1) Male Jedi Sentinal/Jedi Master
2) Jedi Master Robes
3) Sword Style (Single blue bladed light saber)
4) Depends what I face
5) Force Enlighten (level 3 speed, valor and barrier in one cast)


--OR--

1) Jedi Consular/Sith lord
2) Dark Jedi Master Robes
3) Sword Style (red blade)
4) Depends what I face
5) Force Lightning/Storm, Choke then slash :)

SolarEclipise 02-24-2007 03:18 PM

1)What classes are you?
Jedi Sentinel/Jedi Watchmen/Sith Assassin
2)What items do you equip? Did your Exile wear robes or armor?
Zeison Sha Warrior Armour/Jedi Knight Robes
3)What kind of lightsaber do you wield? Single, Dual, or Double-bladed? And what color?
Single Blade - Green Blade
4)What Lightsaber form do you use the most?
Niman
5)What Force Powers do you use to augment your saber skills? Or did you just use the Force as your blade?
I used Battle Meditation,Force Armour,Master Speed,and Master Valor

Salzella 02-24-2007 03:43 PM

hmm, here's my favourites:

1) Sentinel/Watchman
2) Robes/belts/implants/gloves/energy shields. No headsets usually, don't like the look of them.
3) Sabrestaff mostly, though i like dual wielding as well.
4) Ataru :)
5) Force enlightenment when i get it, Speed otherwise, mixed in with damaging powers.

AJL 02-24-2007 03:59 PM

1) My class was Consular, Master, ... Who ever get most force points...

2) Anything that give strenght, stamina and speed... (But nothing that
makes the character look bad like goggles and such... no matter what
good they might do) And padawan or jedi robes (knights and masters
robes looks stupid)

3) Single/Staff and either silver, purple or light blue... (pref. light blue)

4) ?? Hmm... Don't know... nor care... But when attacking with saber
or other melee its Always... Flurry, flurry and more flurry...

5) Lots of stasis and/or insanity... And of course 360 degree lightning
and pushing waves when ever they are possible and work...

The Sith'ari 02-24-2007 05:50 PM

1) Sentinel, for the skills/ Guardian, for the kick-ass fighting
2) Just jedi robes, plus anything that boosts stats and looks cool on the character
3) Two handed single bladed lightsabers, either blue-blue or blue-purple
4) Whatever style that fits the combat most; flurry for its effectiveness, and power strike for the very cool animation
5) Force lightning, one stroke kills all.

Rogue Spy 02-25-2007 04:02 AM

1) Sentinel/Guardian

2) Some Jedi robes..i forgot what exactly.

3) Duel - Purple & Green

4) Flurry alot of the time.

5) Stasis and Heal, didn't really use any others but occasionaly disable droid or storm.

Jacen Stargazer 02-26-2007 01:14 PM

I was:

A Consular/Master/Lord

Single Viridian/Red blade wielder, buffed with myname crystal and the Kasha crystal. I also favor the Jal Shey and Makutai items, and the Pheromone Package.

Robes, as they are do not block FP. My favorite are the Ossus Keeper Robes, due to the CHA, WIS, and INT bonuses. Also, you always can get them, as they are always in the Onderon artifacts, along with the Viridian crystal.

As for powers, as LS I favor Valor for the bonuses on everything, Speed for the extra attacks, and Energy Resistance as its long-lasting, with Enlightenment later on, of course. Then I spam Wave. As DS, I use Plague as it's unsaveable, and Scream if the target(s) needs some more weakening. Then I use Kill or Crush in a duel, or Storm in a large battle.

Form? I use Potency mostly as DS, and Mastery mostly as LS. I sometimes use Makashi against Jedi, other than that, I don't use Saber forms, just my precious caster-only force forms.

MetalMark 02-26-2007 03:55 PM

1: Gaurdian/Weapon Master of jedi master (watchmen or sith lord when DS)
2: Robes, or the Zeishon Sha armor
3: Double bladed saber: blue when LS and red when ds
4: Never use them
5: Plague and kill is a great combo. I also always have complete force lightning, death field, force wave and offcourse master heal. (when I play LS and get force enlightment I only have 2 or 3 powers and not evan maxed out)

Rockstar 03-04-2007 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalMark
1: Gaurdian/Weapon Master of jedi master (watchmen or sith lord when DS)
2: Robes, or the Zeishon Sha armor
3: Double bladed saber: blue when LS and red when ds
4: Never use them
5: Plague and kill is a great combo. I also always have complete force lightning, death field, force wave and offcourse master heal. (when I play LS and get force enlightment I only have 2 or 3 powers and not evan maxed out)

that is interesting choice of force powers. Yes, the dark side powers are handy but seriously, storm is the only dark side power worth using on anything but bosses. The bonuses you get to you melee from having maxed valor, speed and barrier with force enlightenment are FAR more effective than the dark side powers you would be putting points into. Plague is good against bosses but if you are a weapons or jedi master, using enlightenment as i specified, you should not need to touch dark force powers except storm

Jediphile 03-04-2007 04:13 AM

1. Sentinel/Jedi Master
2. Mostly robes, but it depends. Definitely Ossus Keeper Robes towards the ends. Most items tended to boost stats... a lot. And I used implants to the max by building Constitution.
3. Dual lightsabers. Various colours, but I preferred combinations of white and cyan, since I felt it reflected the exile better. I played him as LS, but he wasn't quite accepted as a jedi, so I felt it fitting he used none of the classic colours.
4. To be honest, I never cared much about lightsaber forms - they just didn't seem to make so much difference. I think I just switched on the force form that lets you regenerate force points the fastest and then left it there.
5. Definitely master speed, replaced by force enlightenment when I got it. A fair amount of energy resistance as well. All combined with Flurry. As a jedi master, I tend to use force powers, though. The strategy there was to hit the room with Force Wave, which knocked everbody over and stunned them (since my powers were hard to resist). Then I zapped them repeatedly with Force Storm while they were helpless and repeated the process as necessary ;)

CSI 03-04-2007 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykoRevan
1) What classes are you?

2) What items do you equip? Did your Exile wear robes or armor?

3) What kind of lightsaber do you wield? Single, Dual, or Double-bladed? And what color?

4) What Lightsaber form do you use the most?

5) What Force Powers do you use to augment your saber skills? Or did you just use the Force as your blade?

1. Jedi Consular/Jedi Master For me.

2. Eh items? Random...Yes, Nihilus Robe.

3. Dual Lightsabers...Silver

4. No preference, varies...Maybe Shien?

5. Force Power: Master Heal, Master Battle Meditation, Master Valor, Force Immunity...Tons.

EnIgmA_XX 03-09-2007 10:24 AM

1) I try to use different classes every time I make a new character, but right now I'm using a jedi consular/jedi master

2) I use robes, I always found armor to be useless in KOTOR. I also equip anything that boosts wisdom and charisma

3) Dual sabres (blue and silver)

4) Force channel

5) I made my character completely reliant on force, because she'd get owned if she fought with a lightsaber without using and force powers. I use a lot of stat increasing powers and also use a lot of powers from the high level force powers mod.

PS: how do you get force enlightenment?

SykoRevan 03-11-2007 01:48 PM

You receive Force Enlightenment after meeting the Jedi Masters on Dantooine if you are on the light side. If you are Dark Side, you receive the aggressive force power Force Crush.

Jeff 03-11-2007 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykoRevan
1) What classes are you?

2) What items do you equip? Did your Exile wear robes or armor?

3) What kind of lightsaber do you wield? Single, Dual, or Double-bladed? And what color?

4) What Lightsaber form do you use the most?

5) What Force Powers do you use to augment your saber skills? Or did you just use the Force as your blade?

1. Generally I was a consular and Jedi master.
2. I always wore jedi robes.
3. Single blue. :)
4. whatever form was best against the current enemy I was facing. I don't think I had one that I used the most.
5. Even as a Jedi I loved force storm. Stasis field was also a nice one.

ZippyFreak 05-18-2007 05:01 AM

LS
1) I take Jedi Gaurdian/then Master if L/S as i tend to prefer melee to powers early on, moving further towards force reliant later in the game.

2) Dark Jedi Robes

3) depends on my mood, mostly Dual and varying colours red and blue is one i like, makes me feel more like a tweener, blue for my jedi belief red for the sorry mutha trucker who dares mess with me! mwahaha!

4) mostly force forms i believe its called mastery....i may be wrong, the one that the symbol is just a purple ball.

5) Master speed, stasis field, force wave (always have it, rarely use it actually) master heal, Force storm (by far the best) by the end of the game im usually using Stasis field first then hit em all with a force storm for any petty minions, and jedi i will fight head on...honour in battle, i love it.

D/S
1)Gaurdian/Sith Lord

2) Dark Jedi Robes

3) either Double blade (as i am currently) red, or dual with whatever coulours i decide.

4) purple ball again.

5) Master speed, stasis field, drain life, Force storm (by far the best) force choke (the mastered version,'kill' i believe it is) and insanity, cos it looks cool...they all hold thier heads whilst i strike them down! mwahaha!

True_Avery 05-18-2007 05:40 AM

Ummm, thread resurrection much?

Marauder's Fury 05-18-2007 09:41 AM

Still, it's a nice thread. :)

DSM
1. Guardian/Marauder.
2. Anything to boost STR. Universal D-Package is obviously my favorite. Robes if I can't find Darth Malak's Armor.
3. One red and one purple.
4. Force Channel until I get Juyo.
5. Master Speed. Force Immunity for a couple of duels. Offensive powers include Insanity, Force Wave, Force Lightning, Kill and of course Force Crush.

LSF
1. Sentinel/Watchman.
2. Anything to boost DEX. Again, big implants to boost physical (or all) attributes. Strictly robes.
3. The legendary Viridian Duo.
4. Force Channel, sometimes Niman after I get it.
5. Everything Force Enlightenment covers. Stasis Field, Force Wave and Destroy Droid as offensive powers. Again, Force Immunity for a couple of duels.

Bee Hoon 05-18-2007 11:02 AM

LSF exile!
1. Sentinel/Watchman
2. A lot of modded stuff which gives insanely high boosts. Always robes. Most armours look kinda ugly:p
3. Silver lightsabers, one regular and a short one in the off-hand, ala Kavar.
4. Force Channel usually, but changes whenever I feel like it.
5. Force Enlightenment, of that, Master Speed is my favourite. Master Speed+Master Flurry= 5 attacks in a single round.

Robb Stark 05-20-2007 12:27 AM

I've played many times through with all different sorts of combinations and tactics, so I'll list the last two:

LSF:
1) Guardian/Jedi Master
2) Matuaki Apprentice->Grey Jedi->Ossus Keeper, with the Circlet of Saresh, and other stat-boosting gear as I came across them. I have an energy shield in one arm slot, usually using them from weakest to strongest over the course of the game.
3) Single green saber. I typically upgrade my sabers with the best Fencing Emitter and Diatum Energy Cells, and Adegan Lens. I always use the <CharName> Crystal somewhere.
4) Usually Shii-Cho, but Makashi vs. Nihilus, Sion, and Traya. I usually used the Master Flurry combat feat when engaged in melee combat.
5) I almost always use Master Speed as my first action in combat. Late in the game I used Force Enlightenment for Master Valor and the armor power, but I find that they last too short a time to bother with them for most of the game. My typical strategy involved Mass Stasis followed by closing in and using the saber, though I would of course switch it up with Force Wave from time to time. For droids I usually just spammed Destroy Droid.

DSM:
1) Guardian/Sith Assassin
2) Jal-Shey Neophyte Armor->Dark Jedi Master Robes->Dark Padawan Robes (because I like the way they look). Got lucky and found the uber all-stat boost implant. Otherwise I typically tried to use strength-boosting gear.
3) Regular red saber in the main hand, short red saber in the off hand. The off-hand saber had the <CharName crystal>, while both used Nextor Crystals for the Keen effect.
4) A little bit of eveything. I used Soresu a lot once I had it, and Shien against the melee-oriented baddies. For melee feats I utilized both Master Flurry, and Master Critical Strike when I felt like it.
5) Master Speed followed by Master Force Jump. Since every attack from a Force Jump counts as a Sneak Attack, the dual sabers with the two bonus attacks from Master Speed were devastating and killed pretty much everything with a single jump. If there were a lot of enemies, I would use Insanity first, and then force jumps and flurries.

Melly 05-20-2007 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykoRevan
1) What classes are you?

Isan is a Consular/Jedi Master. Alari a Sentinel/Jedi Watchman

Quote:

2) What items do you equip? Did your Exile wear robes or armor?
Isan: Grey Jedi Robes
Alari: Jal Shey Armor(s)

Quote:

3) What kind of lightsaber do you wield? Single, Dual, or Double-bladed? And what color?
Isan: Single Silver
Alari: Dual Blasters :p

Quote:

4) What Lightsaber form do you use the most?
Isan: Force Channel
Alari: Force Channel
Didn't really care.

Quote:

5) What Force Powers do you use to augment your saber skills? Or did you just use the Force as your blade?
Master Speed, and for Alari Stasis Field gotta get those sneak attacks. :D

JediMasterJambi 05-20-2007 03:58 PM

1. What Classes are you?

My LSF Jedi Exile a Guardian/Weaponmaster.

2. What items do you equip? Did your Exile wear robes or armor?

Robes of some sort, i'm sure. Just can't remeber.

3. What kind of Lightsaber do you wield? Single, Dual, or Double-bladed? And what colour?

Double-bladed Gray. Or Dual Green, Blue/Purple, Yellow

4. What Lightsaber form do you use the most?

I didn't change them much. I used the one that gave no drastic increases, but didn't have any decreases.

5. What Force Powers do you use to augment your saber skills? Or did you just use the Force as your blade?

Force Wave baby. Force Wave.

GOD Radu 05-21-2007 05:23 AM

All you weak pathetic Jedi scum, the Dark Side shall crush you all.
You sorry excuse for a force sensitive. Death to the Jedi.

1. Like duh... Sith Lord forever.

2. My favorite armours are of Darth Bandon and Darth Revan.

3. Like any powerfull Sith Lord less saber more force and deception, but I prefer a Single Bladed Red LightSaber.

4. What form comes naturaly... I don't know all of them.

5. Like I said more Force less Saber


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