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JRHockney* 12-26-2007 05:28 AM

New temporary beta release.
 
Well we didnt quite make the deadline we were going for. I've been out of town and darth die has been swamped trying to get everything done. Well, today I get home and the more I check over whats been done, the more I release we needed to do...on christmas day... I ended up busy with family and friends for half of the day and so i could hardly help with the little things :p

Well, since we still have things to do for balance and a few features we were hoping to add, rather than make this a big release like we had originally planned, we'll just do a beta release for testing. There will be a big release VERY SOON most likely.

Heres darths more updated installer: http://files.filefront.com/InstallOJ.../fileinfo.html



Sorry I'm just out of time and energy and its the middle of the night. Have fun.

Maxstate 12-26-2007 07:05 AM

Just remember to remove all of your other stuff before you put these in.
New features include:
-Reload system for guns
-Tweaked damage and clip sizes
-Tweaked jump height and velocity
-New push and pull physics
-New weapon: T-21 blaster rifle
-New skill: Clone rifle upgrade
-New menu done by UDM (awesome job nig)
-Tweaked animations - countless frames have been changed to be more balanced, and to differ the styles from oneanother. Red is now faster to combo, but slower to go out of a bounce and has slower windups for example.
-New backparry animation by JackBaldy/Wytchking -will the real slim shady, please stand up (nice work)
-New diagonal left and right parry animations la episode 3 by JackBaldy
-New quickparry button that lets you fool your opponent into thinking that you're not parrying and he is comboing, so as to make your opponent's mishap meter go flying up.
-Tweaked mishap levels for guns
-Clip sizes dependant on gun level
-Tweaked deflecting and reflecting
-Countless of small tweaks to the weapon and saber effects
-New moviesaber types (I think this was greyraven's work)? that can be accessed via console using:
-CG_moviesabertype 1-5

and much more. Go forth and try this new release nigs, it's damn awesome.

daluke 12-26-2007 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxstate
Just remember to remove all of your other stuff before you put these in.
New features include:
-Reload system for guns
-Tweaked damage and clip sizes
-Tweaked jump height and velocity
-New push and pull physics
-New weapon: T-21 blaster rifle
-New skill: Clone rifle upgrade
-New menu done by UDM (awesome job nig)
-Tweaked animations - countless frames have been changed to be more balanced, and to differ the styles from oneanother. Red is now faster to combo, but slower to go out of a bounce and has slower windups for example.
-New backparry animation by JackBaldy (nice work)
-New diagonal left and right parry animations la episode 3 by JackBaldy
-New quickparry button that lets you fool your opponent into thinking that you're not parrying and he is comboing, so as to make your opponent's mishap meter go flying up.
-Tweaked mishap levels for guns
-Clip sizes dependant on gun level
-Tweaked deflecting and reflecting
-Countless of small tweaks to the weapon and saber effects
and much more. Go forth and try this new release nigs, it's damn awesome.


aight dogg, imma dee/ell this motha rite now yo

Maxstate 12-26-2007 07:15 AM

wurddd

Maxstate 12-26-2007 07:24 AM

Guys, a bug I just found; the moviesabers don't work anymore. CG_moviesabertype doesn't change the way my blade looks :(. The folders for it are lacking too :(

JackBaldy 12-26-2007 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxstate
New backparry animation by JackBaldy (nice work)

I am pretty sure that all the back block animations are from Wytch King. Although I haven't checked myself (last time I checked, all of his were used, and mine were just used for testing purposes).


And as you wanted Hocks . . . here is the installer o.o

http://files.filefront.com/InstallOJ.../fileinfo.html

https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/ojp/changeset/585

Maxstate 12-26-2007 07:48 AM

And I asked and asked and this is the answer I got :(

Anyway, very good job on the parry animations then.

JackBaldy 12-26-2007 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxstate
And I asked and asked and this is the answer I got :(

Anyway, very good job on the parry animations then.

Er . . . no need to frown, I just did not want to take credit for something I did not do >.< I'm still not sure which animations are being used in the latest revision, I remember editing quite a few and adding quite a few (and replacing some). Those that come to mind would be the following: Meditate, forward parry, upper diagonal parries, right parry, hilt bash (sped it up), and that's about it. Although I am not sure which were actually used o.o And thanks :)

Maxstate 12-26-2007 08:08 AM

I think you guys messed up something. The changes to Jump aren't there either and you can't buy the T-21. What's going on here?

Edit:
The respawn timer is non-existant, the changes to push and pull aren't in either.

Ok guys this is not going to work like this, I'm going to upload the last unchanged dll file that has most of the changes we promised here untill one of our coders can fix this little problem we're having. Stand by.

daluke 12-26-2007 08:24 AM

Everything seems to be working fine for me o_0

Maxstate 12-26-2007 08:37 AM

http://www.mediafire.com/?4s9yoty2uln
http://www.mediafire.com/?5bgoh1cbdgt


here you go guys. I think it has most of the stuff except for tweaked clip settings. It also lacks the new balance/weapon settings (like T-21 secondary), but it should do until darth or hocks come online :(

DarthDie 12-26-2007 10:12 AM

http://files.filefront.com/InstallOJ.../fileinfo.html

Should work, has all new changes in ;D. Have fun ;).

rut-wa jodar 12-31-2007 08:56 AM

I see that bots with dual saber or saberstaff, still fight with only 1 blade ignited. Any chance this problem can be fixed ?

Maxstate 12-31-2007 12:33 PM

I really don't know why bots are given so much attention now that there are 5 to 6 active servers on the list :(

rut-wa jodar 12-31-2007 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxstate
I really don't know why bots are given so much attention now that there are 5 to 6 active servers on the list :(


Maybe because those 5 or 6 active servers aren`t exactly getting filled is a good enough reason to iron out a few bot issues.

Maxstate 12-31-2007 03:34 PM

Have you ever stopped to think that maybe it's mentalities like yours that happen to leave the servers empty?

rut-wa jodar 12-31-2007 03:51 PM

I was not having a go at the OJP mod, i was merely trying to say that JA`s multiplayer servers are more often empty than populated.

Maxstate 12-31-2007 04:38 PM

Yeah I was just saying that it might be better to try and populate the servers yourself than to try and propagate means to stay out of them :(

rut-wa jodar 12-31-2007 06:11 PM

I would gladly host or join a server that was at least populated with bots. But the bots should be fixed (if possible). Don`t you think gamers are more likely the join a server that has bots, than a server that`s empty? So technically my comments can be seen as encouraging online OJP, rather than discouraging it.

JRHockney* 12-31-2007 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rut-wa jodar
I would gladly host or join a server that was at least populated with bots. But the bots should be fixed (if possible). Don`t you think gamers are more likely the join a server that has bots, than a server that`s empty? So technically my comments can be seen as encouraging online OJP, rather than discouraging it.

I agree here. Thats why I have bots on my server its its ususally busier than others.

For those of you wondering how I get the bots to disappear when theirs more 1 human player on the server its: set ffaOn "g_privateDuel "1"; fraglimit "0"; timelimit "0"; set g_gametype 0; set bot_minplayers 2" In the enhanced server cfg. This way, they don't annoy dualing players. :p

Maxstate 12-31-2007 08:10 PM

Tricking people into believing there are people on a server equals angry people. You can play offline with bots, you can't play offline with people.

JRHockney* 12-31-2007 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxstate
Tricking people into believing there are people on a server equals angry people. You can play offline with bots, you can't play offline with people.

Thats not the point max, the point is to give them something to do while they wait for people to join. If a server is empty, they got to just sit there. No one wants to do that.

Maxstate 12-31-2007 08:28 PM

Noone ever goes to a server alone and waits for someone to show up, especially not in OJP. In theory I would agree with you but I think we've had more than enough practice by now to know that this isn't the case, sadly.

People tell their friends that they need someone to play with via IM and then join the server. If noone is on, they ain't connecting either. If what you were saying was true, every server would have to have one person on it at least, right now.

JRHockney* 12-31-2007 08:35 PM

"Noone ever goes to a server alone and waits for someone to show up, especially not in OJP. In theory I would agree with you but I think we've had more than enough practice by now to know that this isn't the case, sadly."

Are you kidding me? Ive heard players say tahts why they go to my server. Heck tahts want sanjuro did for teh longest time hoping I'd come on...and atremis, and several others.

Maxstate 12-31-2007 08:37 PM

Because he knew you, knew the server was yours and knew approximately when you'd come on from earlier games, not because he was desperate enough to spend hours waiting for you on your server.

JRHockney* 12-31-2007 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxstate
Because he knew you, knew the server was yours and knew approximately when you'd come on from earlier games, not because he was desperate enough to spend hours waiting for you on your server.

hey OJPs volume isnt THAT bad! LOL :P They didnt spend hours waiting and it wasnt JUST for me. They had and have other people they wait for or often get lucky and meet a new guy to train or someone else. Even if that was teh case, other people can do teh same thing while they wait for someone they know at another server. Why fight a bot at your server when you have a server with good ping, theres bots available..and the possibility of people showing up?

Honestly max this is plain logic. I've heard even heard them say it before. If you had ADD and was desperate for food and have fishing suppiles, would you not want a psp to pass teh time? :p LOL ..I love my goofy analogies.

crail227 12-31-2007 09:51 PM

Based on the system we have here, i think bots are essential for one to learn how to play. I feel that a lot of new players are scared away from the mod because they're always fighting people who are better than them. As a training tool, i think they should be able to perform as well as possible. i.e. different saber styles, etc.

At this point in the mod, bots won't only serve as practice, but also as a way for players (like me) to entertain themselves until actual players show up. So far, the only servers ive been joining is hocks cause i get the best ping there. I figure there's a lot more over in europe, so bots tend to be the only challenge i can find on servers where i have good ping. : p

I think the point is that we just dont have enough players at the moment, and thus the need for bots.

DarthDie 12-31-2007 10:07 PM

Quote:

Honestly max this is plain logic. I've heard even heard them say it before. If you had ADD and was desperate for food and have fishing suppiles, would you not want a psp to pass teh time? LOL ..I love my goofy analogies.
I have to disagree, part of fishing is the waiting ;).

Rtemis 01-01-2008 12:13 PM

Master Hoc's server is the only server I join because it always have some action and i played with bots for longer than i played with humans. :P ever tried clogging the bridge with sentry turrets and wait for someone to show up while slaughtering those bots? I tried. Tried sniping them to death before the sentry got them. Works up your reflex. And
indeed, some dedicated servers run Jedi Master clogged with at least 8 bots, and whenever they are up, there's at least a single human player at any given time playing with them.

Artemis in for the bot improvement.

rut-wa jodar 01-01-2008 04:49 PM

judging by some the Anti-semitic comments that were made on a server ,by someone who will remain nameless, i`m glad i don`t play JKA online much anymore. It`s that sort of childish and ignorant attitude that ruins MP gaming.

Maxstate 01-01-2008 05:34 PM

Are you a part of Fox news?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxWgRY1I_SI

Edit:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30...e/shot0519.jpg

There we go, uploaded. This is the anti-semitism that rut wa jodar is referring to , not to mention the only anti-semitic reference made and it was, as many things on the internet, meant as a joke to show off the tweaked bots on JaSK's OJP servers.

Thanks for ruining my "lulz".

rut-wa jodar 01-01-2008 06:08 PM

I have a Jewish background, and I found the comments extremely offensive. How would you feel if i said that,that was a typical a Neo Nazi Redneck attitiude ?

Maxstate 01-01-2008 06:11 PM

Well I'm sorry if I offended you, but I thought it would be very clear that it was nothing more than a joke. Do you seriously believe someone could say that the "Jews did WTC" and keep a straight face?

JaSK 01-01-2008 08:00 PM

Gnome does.

The Unbeholden 01-05-2008 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxstate
wurddd


..... trying to be cool = FAIL

Revolves 01-05-2008 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Unbeholden
.....

I rest my case.

Max is only saying Jews did WTC because he did it!

Proof: http://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/images/wtc1.jpg

Use a magnifier and you'll find a bunch of pixels in the smoke lined up saying 'MAXSTATE DID IT!' You've been caught red handed Max, hand over your license to fap.

Maxstate 01-05-2008 02:39 PM

You can take my dignity, but you'll never take my yarmulke/license to fap!

Revolves 01-05-2008 03:03 PM

Then I take away your dignity to fap! POGGGGGGGGG!

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Maxstate 01-05-2008 04:28 PM

OMG I've been pogged twice now :(((


btw Rev when are you coming back to the vaterland?

Revolves 01-05-2008 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxstate
OMG I've been pogged twice now :(((


btw Rev when are you coming back to the vaterland?

Next week Sunday, okay okay, Saturday midnight, but I doubt the plane will be early enough for me to go on or anything.


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