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Serpentine Cougar 02-19-2008 12:18 AM

Who are the deepest Star Wars characters?
 
In your opinion, which characters in the Star Wars universe are the most vivid and dynamic? Which ones have the most personality and depth to their character? They can be from any time period, and can be from the movies, the EU, or [maybe] even fan fiction (post a link to the fic, please!).

This is not another "Who's your favorite character" thread, but rather a query to see if Star Wars has very many interesting characters who are more than just cardboard cutouts. The character's appearance should have no bearing at all in this thread.

Nedak 02-19-2008 12:33 AM

Luke or Obi-Wan

In reality all of the characters are, but as far as,as much information we have on each character those are my choices.

Miltiades 02-19-2008 09:06 AM

Kreia, for sure. I'd also pick Mara Jade as having a lot of personality and depth. There surely are more, but those two are the ones that come to mind.

adamqd 02-19-2008 10:34 AM

Ulic Qel-Droma, although he mirrors the plight of Vader to a degree, it was much more in depth and tragic, plus we didn't have to wait 17 years for the next installment ( It was set in the most awesome era too)

For those that don't know... http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ulic

Prime 02-19-2008 11:47 AM

Palps has a lot of layers...

Rev7 02-20-2008 01:23 AM

Good question...

Well there are definately more than one of 'the deepest' characters for me. Eh, I would probably have top go with Obi-Wan Kenobi, because, if I do recall, he was in every single Star Wars movie. Another one would probably have to be... ah, and Han Solo for the personality part. I am sure that you know why...
I'll think of some more...

PoiuyWired 02-20-2008 12:16 PM

DEFINITELY THE SARLACC PIT!!!

Proof here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Sarlacc_Body.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prime
Palps has a lot of layers...

You mean like an Onion? Oh wait, thats an ogre. And layered does not always mean Deep.

I would think:
1) Ulic, Really interesting character Development with the While DS/LS journey.
2) Bane, and its still being developed.
3) Jade. she has red hair. Nice to see how her view changes over the years.
4) ObiWan probably.
5) Vos.

Luke... well, there is that little development with his brush to the DS and what not, but Luke is still the same, with a bit of maturity sinking in. Basically while his stories are numerous, her personal development is quite predictable. Its mostly just level grinding really.

Vader should be Deep, but the PT is done in such weak acting(and those scripts and lines he would say) that ruins it. Though I guess the development would continue.

Serpentine Cougar 02-23-2008 12:49 AM

Lol @ Pouiy....

Got some nice examples here; are there any others?

If someone (read: me) doesn't know anything about Quinlan Vos or Mara Jade, where should they start? What book/comic should they read first?

Ali1392 02-23-2008 06:06 AM

1. Reven
2. Bane

adamqd 02-23-2008 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serpentine
Lol @ Pouiy....

Got some nice examples here; are there any others?

If someone (read: me) doesn't know anything about Quinlan Vos or Mara Jade, where should they start? What book/comic should they read first?

Vos... I would recommend:

# Star Wars Republic: Emissaries to Malastare (First identified as Quinlan Vos)
# Star Wars Republic: Twilight
# Star Wars Republic: Infinity's End
# Heart of Fire
# Star Wars Republic: Darkness
# Star Wars Republic: The Stark Hyperspace War (Appears in flashback(s))
# Star Wars Republic: The Devaronian Version (Appears in flashback(s))
# Star Wars Republic: Rite of Passage
# Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones comic
# Star Wars Republic 49: Sacrifice
# Star Wars Republic 50: The Battle of Kamino (Appears in hologram)
# Jedi: Mace Windu
# Jedi: Shaak Ti
# Star Wars Republic 54: Double Blind
# Jedi: Aayla Secura (Appears in flashback(s))
# Jedi: Count Dooku
# Star Wars Republic 63: Striking from the Shadows
# Star Wars Republic: Show of Force
# Star Wars Republic 68: Armor
# Star Wars Republic: The Dreadnaughts of Rendili
# Star Wars Republic: Trackdown
# Labyrinth of Evil (Mentioned only)
# Star Wars Republic: The Siege of Saleucami
# Star Wars Dark Times 6: Parallels, Part 1
# Evasive Action: Reversal of Fortune (Mentioned only)
# Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (Mentioned only)
# Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith comic
# Star Wars Republic: The Hidden Enemy
# Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader (Mentioned only)
# Ghost (Possibly non-canonical appearance)
# Star Wars Legacy 17: Claws of the Dragon, Part 4 (Mentioned only)

Mara Jade...

# Sleight of Hand: The Tale of Mara Jade
# Mara Jade: By the Emperor's Hand
# Mara Jade: A Night on the Town
# Handoff
# "Statue" quo Sluis Van" - Casus Belli 89
# "First Contact" - Star Wars Adventure Journal 1
# Heir to the Empire (First appearance)
# Dark Force Rising
# The Last Command
# "Retreat from Coruscant" - Star Wars Adventure Journal 7
# Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith
# Jedi Search (Mentioned only)
# Dark Apprentice
# Champions of the Force
# I, Jedi
# Children of the Jedi
# Darksaber
# The New Rebellion
# Jade Solitaire
# Before the Storm (Mentioned only)
# Ambush at Corellia
# Assault at Selonia
# Showdown at Centerpoint
# Specter of the Past
# Vision of the Future
# Star Wars: Union
# Judge's Call
# Survivor's Quest
# "The Crystal" - Star Wars Gamer 5
# Vector Prime
# Dark Tide I: Onslaught
# Dark Tide II: Ruin
# Agents of Chaos I: Hero's Trial
# Balance Point
# Edge of Victory I: Conquest
# Recovery
# Edge of Victory II: Rebirth
# Star by Star
# Dark Journey
# Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream
# Enemy Lines II: Rebel Stand
# Traitor (Mentioned only)
# Destiny's Way
# Force Heretic I: Remnant
# Equals and Opposites (Mentioned only)
# Force Heretic II: Refugee
# Force Heretic III: Reunion
# The Final Prophecy
# The Unifying Force
# Dark Nest I: The Joiner King
# Dark Nest II: The Unseen Queen
# Dark Nest III: The Swarm War
# Betrayal
# Bloodlines
# Tempest
# Exile
# Sacrifice
# Inferno (Corpse)
# Fury (Mentioned only)
# Revelation (Appears as a ghost or a spirit)
# Invincible (Mentioned only)
# Star Wars Legacy 11: Ghosts, Part 1 (Appears as a hallucination)

Jvstice 02-23-2008 03:39 PM

Kreia
Darth Krayt

Gurges-Ahter 04-23-2008 11:12 PM

I think I'd go with Revan... being the natural leader and strong Jedi that he was, deciding to defy the Jedi council and fight the Mandalorians, and convincing half of the Jedi to follow him... then after being memory-wiped, turning back to the light side and ending the Sith rule by defeating his brutal former apprentice, Malak... all of that in itself qualifies him as deep, but the real kicker for me is leaving behind his love, Bastila, and the rest of the known galaxy to fight the "true Sith". He is also probably (perhaps outside of Admiral Thrawn) the most brilliant military leader in SW history.

Sabretooth 04-24-2008 04:12 AM

Kreia, without a doubt. She was the epitome of potential depth in Star Wars.

noizer 07-21-2008 09:23 AM

sidous for me. verry intresting person.

Druganator 07-21-2008 10:40 PM

Revan, Canderous(just his backstory and experiences) Atton (when you talk to him about his past in K2) Definitely Kreia, maybe the Exile, Jolee Bindo and Kyle Katarn

ChAiNz.2da 07-22-2008 04:24 AM

Jolee Bindo and Kreia.

You can't shut either of them up in the games.. they've ALWAYS got something to say about the past :xp:

ironically my 2 most favorite of the SW universe ;)

Davinq 07-22-2008 04:19 PM

*braces self against NJO haters*

Nom Anor. A very intruiging character to be sure, very slippery, with ever-shifting alliances.

*ducks*

GeneralPloKoon 07-22-2008 04:59 PM

Kyle Katarn, the jedi nobody knew about.

Lord Foley 07-24-2008 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Davinq (Post 2498551)
*braces self against NJO haters*

Nom Anor. A very intruiging character to be sure, very slippery, with ever-shifting alliances.

I loved Nom Anor. I'm so glad someone out there appreciates NJO.

Drynos 08-12-2008 06:53 AM

Also taking from legacy and NJO:
Anakin Solo - Before turning 20 found the secret of the Force and pulled off many things that the masters in the Legacy Era STILL cannot do.
Ben Skywalker - Not even finished with the Legacy Era yet, and I'd like to see him become the next Grand master by the age of 16. Very deep character who has already resisted the dark side, killed irrationally, and still gotten away with accusing Luke Skywalker of suicidal tendencies.

Bomberman65 08-26-2008 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralPloKoon (Post 2498585)
Kyle Katarn, the jedi nobody knew about.

I'd have to agree with you there. I'd also add in Kenobi, Jade and Reven.

LordOfTheFish 08-26-2008 08:33 PM

Kreia, Ordo, Sidious. All fairly interesting.

DeadYorick 09-03-2008 11:57 AM

I found Kreia the most deep. To this day I still can't understand a lot about what she said

adamqd 09-03-2008 12:14 PM

The Sarlacc pit's pretty deep...

Bomberman65 09-03-2008 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamqd (Post 2520603)
The Sarlacc pit's pretty deep...

Oh well done lol.

Yar-El 09-06-2008 07:39 PM

Luke, Sidious, and Fett. Luke has changed over the years. Sidious is starting to become more complex. Fett's background is very dynamic.

M@RS 09-06-2008 07:52 PM

I'd have to say Mara Jade when Palpatine first dies, when she joins Talon's group you can't tell who she's working for and what her motives are...But Palpatine is also a pretty deep character...And I'd agree with Yar-El Boba Fett is also a pretty complex character...but not as complex as Mara or Palpy...:D

Yar-El 09-06-2008 08:15 PM

Sidious' backstory was rumored for novelization. Hopefully someone will expand on his experiences with Darth Plagueis the wise. :D

TKA-001 09-06-2008 08:22 PM

Obviously Kyle Katarn.

K_Kinnison 09-08-2008 11:45 PM

one of the keys of a "Deep Character" is having the character transplanted to another universe, or setting and knowing what the character would do without missing a beat

The core group of Luke, Liea, and Han would be easy. Mara Jade is another well developed character

PoiuyWired 09-10-2008 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K_Kinnison (Post 2522927)
one of the keys of a "Deep Character" is having the character transplanted to another universe, or setting and knowing what the character would do without missing a beat

The core group of Luke, Liea, and Han would be easy. Mara Jade is another well developed character

Sarlacc... we all know what its going to do, wherever it is...

So even a mousedroid would be a "deep character" then according to our definition... We all know its going to run around in a bee-line and beep.

Great Scott! 09-10-2008 03:54 PM

Anakin Skywalker for sure... hence having six movies based mostly around him.

Yar-El 09-17-2008 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Scott! (Post 2523549)
Anakin Skywalker for sure... hence having six movies based mostly around him.

I have allways felt that episodes 4, 5, and 6 were about Luke, Leia, Han, and the Rebels. I never thought them to be about Anakin. A New Hope was about Luke setting out on his own, and the Rebels' fight against the Empire. Empire Strikes Back was about Luke discovering his past, and the Empire finally catching up with the Rebels. Return of the Jedi was about Luke facing his past, and the Rebels' final push to destroy the Empire. Anakin's story was never really in the foreground for me. I guess its all about perception.

Great Scott! 09-17-2008 09:25 PM

The way I saw it was, when I saw the original trilogy before the prequels, they were around Luke. After seeing the prequels and re-watching, however, it feels more like the whole series is about Anakin.

Revan.Ragnos.85 09-20-2008 12:38 AM

Kreia definitely. But she has been mentioned a million times already. I think Thrawn is a deep character as well, but we need more books about him. A lot of potential there. Revan, and not just because he is my favorite character. Anakin Solo definitely. A total waste that they killed him off. And Jacen is deep, but his character development has always been poorly done IMO. So I don't think he really counts.

Rev7 09-20-2008 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChAiNz.2da (Post 2498319)
Jolee Bindo and Kreia.

You can't shut either of them up in the games.. they've ALWAYS got something to say about the past :xp:

ironically my 2 most favorite of the SW universe ;)

QFT :carms:

Fredi 09-27-2008 11:18 AM

Jolee Bindo, Revan and Anakin Skywalker.

Kalonus 09-27-2008 11:33 AM

Kenobi, Chewie or R2-D2.


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