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MajinMikeyX 09-02-2008 03:15 AM

One quick question about Vista
 
Ok, Let's say I have an XP computer(I do) and have KotOR installed and have many game saves on it(I do), and let's say I get a new computer that's Vista.
Can I install KotOR(Best of PC version so it should work on vista) on the new computer and use my game saves from the XP computer on the new vista computer? Will they be compatible? I'm fearing that they wouldn't, but I might be wrong. Please, anyone who's knowledgeable about this, please reply.

I'm asking because I might get a new computer and it may be vista(I have no control of what my parents get when it comes to computers :( )

Rabish Bini 09-02-2008 04:57 AM

Unless I'm missing something, no, you won't be able to keep your save games, I'm sorry to say, but someone else who's more technical with computers might correct me, but I don't think it's possible.

Astor 09-02-2008 05:02 AM

Well, you could transfer the saves to a memory stick or similar, and then see if they'd work, but I really don't know anything about Vista, so they might work and they might not.

But I think they would be ok, because it's the game they use, not the operating system.

GodsillY 09-02-2008 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astor_Kaine (Post 2519899)
Well, you could transfer the saves to a memory stick or similar, and then see if they'd work, but I really don't know anything about Vista, so they might work and they might not.

But I think they would be ok, because it's the game they use, not the operating system.

Not only that but from what I've heard Vista is supposed to run XP games perfectly fine, so if you do save them to a flashdrive they should definatly run perfectly okay, but I've heard bad things about Vista.

mimartin 09-03-2008 12:42 AM

From personal experience, I can regretfully tell you, Vista does not run KOTOR, even the Best of PC version, very well.:( I got through it, but it took a lot of work and patience.

RedHawke 09-04-2008 02:11 AM

Moving to appropriate forum... MajinMikeyX, please place thread topics in their proper places.

Astrotoy7 09-04-2008 12:04 PM

yup. Kotor and vista is not a happy marriage!

if you are really attached to KOTOR, and also need vista, one option is to dual boot with XP... There is also the WINE emulator in Linux, but I haven't had a go at that personally.

mtfbwya

Det. Bart Lasiter 09-04-2008 12:43 PM

It seems KotOR probably runs better under Wine than Vista.

Ray Jones 09-05-2008 03:53 AM

WINE Is Not an Emulator ^^


PS.: If anyone has any questions problems regarding WINE, please feel free to PM me or post a thread here. :)

Astrotoy7 09-05-2008 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Jones (Post 2521579)
WINE Is Not an Emulator ^^


PS.: If anyone has any questions problems regarding WINE, please feel free to PM me or post a thread here. :)

Lolz, we all know the acronym Ray...

Yes, is it is "really a compatibility layer" ......[/way cooler huh kids!] :loco:

Posting an open thread will be fine, others may benefit from it

Come to think of it Ray/Jmac, you could start a dedicated thread, write a little tutorial on it, explain what it is, and tips and tricks for using it....

It'd make a great sticky thread. Helpful for many, Im sure :)

mtfbwya

Det. Bart Lasiter 09-05-2008 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astrotoy7 (Post 2521612)
Come to think of it Ray/Jmac, you could start a dedicated thread, write a little tutorial on it, explain what it is, and tips and tricks for using it....

That'd be kinda useless since Wine sucks ass. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to hate on Wine or the spirit of the project, I'd love to dump Windows for good, but even some of the Wine repository maintainers have just flat out said "Wine sucks". If you have a problem with an application running under it, you're pretty much **** out of luck, and the commercial version of it, Cedega, is no better in terms of functionality.

Ray Jones 09-05-2008 01:38 PM

CEDEGA sucks badly, indeed. The transgaming guys also got bad reps from the WINE community, as they were believed to take from the WINE project without giving back. There is also Crossover Office and Crossover Games from the Codeweavers folks, who are doing a pretty decent job.

However, how badly the *real* WINE does suck or not, depends on what you are trying to run with it. Those things (games only) I want to run, run flawlessly. Lucky me, I guess. We also use WINE for some business software at my company, which (now) also runs without any trouble. Although as soon as you involve .Net, SQL Server, or MS' Internet information Server, WINE is worth nothing. On the other hand, WINE does not promise anything like that to run at all. And it will never be able to replace fully Windows. But at least it rendered *my* Windows useless.

If you're too lazy to bug around with any WINE settings there are also open source projects like Play On Linux or Work On Linux both providing a "framework" to set up WINE correctly for whatever application.


As for the compatibility layer, yes, that's more appropriate. WINE does not "emulate" anything (hardware and stuff), it only provides all the Windows APIs to make windows programs happy. And yes, it makes a difference, at least technically, and we're in a tech forum here.

Also, a thread explaining WINE would be pointless, there is more than enough information over at www.winehq.org.

Astrotoy7 09-06-2008 03:13 AM

ok then WINE sucks, but if you want help on it, PM Ray like he said \o/

OT:
IMO: If you really need KOTOR, just stay on XP, or risk being lost in the miasma

mtfbwya

MajinMikeyX 09-13-2008 05:16 PM

Sorry for posting so many things in the wrong place, I'll try to learn from that.
But anyway, I got a new computer with Vista Home Premium or something like that and KotOR, Jedi Outcast, and Jedi Academy all have been working great. Got them running on the first try AND my save games from XP all work.
1 problem so far is that in the title screen of KotOR, Malak is kind of lagging while the mouse cursor isn't skipping or anything.

Astrotoy7 09-15-2008 06:50 AM

lolz....interesting to hear about Kotor. Just play it a bit more before making a final call on vista v Kotor!

games based an the quake engine will have no probs in vista. JA worked better for me in vista than it did on xp!

good luck

mtfbwya

Ray Jones 09-15-2008 07:15 AM

If everything else fails use WINE for Windows.


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