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Fredi 01-04-2009 11:56 AM

Who is the strongest Jedi Master ever to live?
 
Who is the strongest Jedi Master ever to live?

Could it be Master Yoda? Master Luke Skywalker? Master Vandar? Master Kreia? Master Windu? or another Jedi Master?

CommanderQ 01-04-2009 12:06 PM

I would think Yoda. He is very awesome and green, but he did master many ways of the force, and even found the way of immortality. He may not have been able to destroy the Sith, but he still taught Jedi for 900 years and embarked on thousands of missions and still posed as a thorn to the Empire's side.

hhunter6 01-07-2009 09:43 AM

Master Skywalker :luke: once you get into the expanded universe he totally rocks. Nothing against Yoda he is bad a** but you have to give it to Luke. He has learned almost everything on his own for the most part.

adamqd 01-07-2009 11:03 AM

In GL's mind I'm pretty certain it's Yoda, with Anakin as second (As he doesn't think about post ROTJ, Luke Jacen etc)

But Yoda is my Choice for sure.

Force Powers= Yoda (EU Jacen Solo)
Lightsaber technique= Mace Windu, (EU Luke Skywalker)
All round Bad ass= Obi-Wan Kenobi

LordOfTheFish 01-07-2009 05:03 PM

Yoda. You can look at the way he fights and see his skill is supreme to any other.

Hayden Kered 01-07-2009 11:46 PM

Master Luke Skywalker.

K_Kinnison 01-09-2009 01:27 PM

There are so many "Old Republic" jedi that could be more powerful. But one that stands out is Nomi Sunrider. she is possibly one of the few Jedi to ever "defeat" a Sith Lord and Sith master (Exur Kunn, and Ulric Qel-Droma?) and she used a few forcepowers that are unique and maybe even forgotten by the time of the rebellion.

adamqd 01-09-2009 05:16 PM

^^ good call

M@RS 01-10-2009 11:39 PM

I'd have to say Yoda... He had 800 years to practice and improve his skills, Luke only had what? 60 years? He didn't start training until he was around 20... Anakin could have been the greatest, but we all know the story and he fails...

Zwier Zak 01-11-2009 12:36 PM

If you read the books... or eaven look at wookiepedia you'd know that this thread is useless. Luke winns hands down.

swphreak 01-13-2009 08:01 PM

Yoda. Yoda owns everyone.

Though with how crazy TFU was, you could argue Starkiller was pretty powerful.

Da_man 01-13-2009 09:07 PM

Isn't LF tradition to always vote for Yoda on a poll, is that just more random swamp crap?

I'd still vote for Yoda tho...

TKA-001 01-13-2009 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by StarWarsPhreak (Post 2577357)
Though with how crazy TFU was, you could argue Starkiller was pretty powerful.

You have to remember that TFU exaggerates the capabilities of all Force-users, regardless of their identity, so Starkiller's extraordinary list of accomplishments (such as using telekinesis to move or affect abnormally large objects) is more representative of the style which the storyline portrays, rather than a statement of his capabilities alone compared to the abilities of everyone else as shown in every other work of Star Wars. Therefore,

spoiler:
if Starkiller can really use the Force to affect the descent of a falling capital ship,


then so can Palpatine, Yoda, and so on, according to TFU.

Zwier Zak 01-14-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TKA-001 (Post 2577380)
then so can Palpatine, Yoda, and so on, according to TFU.

True. All force users have "Over the top" force powers in that game.

swaaye 01-21-2009 05:49 PM

Yeah if you get into the EU books with the Vong war, Luke really is a force to be reckoned with. He basically becomes sort of a might-as-well-be-labeled-as-invincible time-slowing energy being when he needs to (my impression). ;)

GeneralPloKoon 01-21-2009 07:01 PM

I think Yoda is one of the best force users while I think Mace Windu was the best with a lightsaber.

PoiuyWired 01-26-2009 10:37 PM

Tholme.
Yes he may not have the best saber skills or force power, but hs is resourceful and cunning and tactful, and is great at balancing stiff jedi beliefs and reasonable flexability without falling for the darkside.

Also, props for having a girlfriend, even though she is kinda a bit old.

And oh... HE IS AN NINJA. (well sort of)

JesusIsGonnaOwnSatan 02-02-2009 04:42 AM

im torn between luke and yoda. i love yoda. hes plain awesome. he mastered every form of lightsaber combat there was at that time. mace windu was second to him in that respect. he stayed lightside for so long (he may have turned at some point, but that would still be insignificant to his time spent in the light.)
i heard yoda had a special talent for force push/telekinesis powers. that he could push through any jedi's defenses and give them a good shove. (can anyone confirm?)
im sure yoda came across a lot of obscure force techniques in 800 years

i always thought of luke as a pansy. because hes supposed to have the same MC count as anakin (80% sure about that), but unlike his father, he doesnt get 70% of his body mass chopped/burnt off and had access to far more force knowledge/powers. you'd think he'd be ultra powerful... but he was not portrayed as such in the books that i have read.

but that completely changed when i read LotF. they did him justice.
spoiler:
He smashed the living snot out of you-know-who, who was more powerful than vader at that point. and luke was like, 60.) LotF also shows that he has knowledge of quite a few obscure force techniques like jacen solo did. look how powerful jacen got with those.


its extremely tough. i wish i could vote for them both...
but my vote goes to... Jedi Grand Master Yoda!
i find it quite nice how the two most powerful jedi ever were master and apprentice.
spoiler:
(i always thought jedi lords would be almost superheroes... but farfella was pathetic! i cant remember about hoth. i personally believe yoda, mace and luke qualify for that title if it were still in use in their eras)

CommanderQ 02-02-2009 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesusIsGonnaOwnSatan (Post 2584040)

its extremely tough. i wish i could vote for them both...
but my vote goes to... Jedi Grand Master Yoda!
i find it quite nice how the two most powerful jedi ever were master and apprentice.
spoiler:
(i always thought jedi lords would be almost superheroes... but farfella was pathetic! i cant remember about hoth. i personally believe yoda, mace and luke qualify for that title if it were still in use in their eras)


Fine choice! Yoda is indeed masterful!! There are several things that would make Yoda superior in Jedi status...:D

Lord of Destruction 02-11-2009 06:09 AM

if Revan or the Exile were masters they would probly be better than yoda


i know that i mispelled probly

Sabretooth 02-11-2009 09:41 AM

I vote for Skywalker! :^:

noizer 11-29-2009 11:41 AM

luke imo. learned most of the force by his own.

Star Killer 12-10-2009 06:38 PM

According to supershadow.com (supposedly george lucas said alot of stuff on there) it is luke skywalker.

SW01 12-10-2009 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Star Killer (Post 2692937)
According to supershadow.com (supposedly george lucas said alot of stuff on there) it is luke skywalker.

Take a pinch of salt with that. ;)

Actually, a whole cask might be better.

@Topic: I may choose Yoda for such a post, just due to a lot of what is said about him in the films and some EU references.

Alexrd 12-10-2009 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Star Killer (Post 2692937)
According to supershadow.com (supposedly george lucas said alot of stuff on there)

:ugh:

TKA-001 12-10-2009 09:20 PM

I'm not sure SuperShadow is wrong about Luke being the strongest (except Kyle Katarn). Wookieepedia has a list of feats on Mr. Skywalker, and just about all of them are sourced. Among others, it includes:

"During the Battle of Dathomir, Luke flew the Millennium Falcon single-handedly using only the Force, manipulating its controls and operating it with a skill that not even a full crew could manage." (Telekinesis, among other things)

"Luke was able to knock down a crippled AT-AT by pressing against it with the Force; he also absorbed the initial cannon blasts from the AT-AT, before deflecting the rest with his lightsaber." (Telekinesis, Force Protection-related power)

"During the Black Fleet Crisis, Luke used the Force to rebuild Darth Vader's old fortress on Coruscant. In addition, Luke later used the Force to crush the rebuilt fortress of Darth Vader to rubble, shattering the building piece by piece and throwing it into the oceans of Coruscant." (Telekinesis, holy ****ing ****. That's almost as impressive as Kyle Katarn rebuilding Alderaan by hand.)

"In the battle between the Singing Mountain Clan and the Nightsisters, Luke was almost fatally wounded by a Force attack by Gethzerion and a deep fall, but regenerated in the span of mere hours." (Force Healing-related power)

"During the time when he was re-creating the Jedi Order and was searching for potential candidates, he walked on lava while still throbbing with the Force after defeating a Fireworm living in the lava just moments before." (Force Protection. I'll bet Anakin's ghost was watching that, wishing he had had that power decades earlier)

"Toward the end of the Swarm War, Luke used the Force to call all the Jedi across the galaxy to Ossus to make the announcement of him taking on the role as Grand Master of the Jedi Order, and to issue his views about the role of the Order to his Jedi." (Long-range Telepathy)

"Right before the Battle of Fondor, Luke made Caedus "see" a fleet of ships, causing him to panic in front of his navy. Luke directed it right at Caedus in general, to show him what he can do and to scare Caedus into talking with Luke." (Force Illusion. That would be sick to use at Halloween parties)

"During the Battle of Yuuzhan'tar Luke was described as a maelstrom of Force energy, against which there was no shelter. So calm and focused was he that his actions were not interrupted by any thought. Luke merged with the Force to such a degree that the Jedi Master did not seem to be there, physically or as an individual personality. Luke's control over his lightsaber blade was so great that he was said to might as well have been wielding ten, or twenty lightsabers against the Vong. The Solo twins were astounded seeing their uncle in such a state." (Force Channel: Kyle Katarn)

"Luke used a powerful and unique ability of the Force related to his signature green Electric Judgment in the chamber of Shimrra Jamaane. This technique had been described to look like "green sparks," which instantly killed the Slayer." (Evidently related to Force lightning, or another dark-sided power)

That's pretty damn good. I don't think even Yoda has done anything as ridiculous as the **** Luke pulls.

Arannor 12-14-2009 05:34 AM

I would have to say Luke. He started his Jedi training at a late age, some thing the Jedi Order frown upon. What took most Jedi to learn in a life time only took Luke a few years to accomplish. The only Jedi that I know who purposely fell to the dark side and was fully redeemed.

IMO, I always looked at Luke as the Chosen One. Without Luke, Vader never would have killed the Emperor.

PoiuyWired 12-14-2009 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Star Killer (Post 2692937)
According to supershadow.com (supposedly george lucas said alot of stuff on there) it is luke skywalker.

Just my two cents.

The piece of sorry excuse of a bantha poodoo muching huttslime licking subhumanoid called supersadow is a disgrace to... well... a disgrace to pretty much everything.

Don't trust anything he says. He did everything from fake "insiders information" to imaginary girlfriend in the form of supermodel posters. He also loves to make up characters and what not.

That having said, Luke is definitely one of the strongest.

Alexrd 12-14-2009 03:18 PM

But isn't Kyle Katarn the Chuck Norris of Star Wars? Why isn't he on the poll?

CommanderQ 12-14-2009 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexrd (Post 2693895)
But isn't Kyle Katarn the Chuck Norris of Star Wars? Why isn't he on the poll?

Sorry, my friend. There is only ONE Chuck Norris.

purifier 12-15-2009 04:58 AM

Oh well, even if Kyle Katarn is not on the poll list, my vote is for him as "other".

And that their is my vote and Ima' stick'in to it fellers. ;)

JediSithLordAdas 01-09-2010 12:28 AM

There are too many great jedi in the star wars series from all eras, whether it be from the skywalker seedline to the katarn seedline

urluckyday 01-09-2010 12:59 AM

Could make the case for either Yoda or Windu. If we're going pound for pound we'll say Yoda.

Meowster 01-09-2010 06:10 AM

Kreia is my favorite character in the series, and despite how strong her manipulations and beliefs were, she was not as strong in the force as many of the other candidates. It is obviously Yoda.

urluckyday 01-09-2010 05:21 PM

Even though I made the choice of Yoda, don't you think that Windu could even be considered more powerful than Yoda? I think Yoda possesses more knowledge and is a lot wiser and therefore a better master...but Windu seems like a pretty powerful guy. I just say Yoda b/c he's smaller and is very powerful at the same time.

Demongo 01-11-2010 12:29 PM

I voted for Yoda but I considered Kreia too. After all wielding 3 lightsabers and manipulating at that level is not nothing:p


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