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Demongo 05-24-2009 06:19 AM

Death Star construction during Ep III?
 
This thing bothers me a little. In the end of Episode III, Darth Sidious and Darth Vader are standing on the bridge of a Star Destroyer, and watching the construction of the Death Star.
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/dvd/rots~/GW7vq.jpg

Just look at it. It looks like the Death Star was constructed since the end of Ep 2 or the beginning of Ep 3. If the death star wasn't constructed since Ep 3 then how could they build it so quickly? If it was constructed since Ep 3 then how could Palpatine hide it from the jedi?

Blix 05-24-2009 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthDac (Post 2626942)
This thing bothers me a little. In the end of Episode III, Darth Sidious and Darth Vader are standing on the bridge of a Star Destroyer, and watching the construction of the Death Star.
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/dvd/rots~/GW7vq.jpg

Just look at it. It looks like the Death Star was constructed since the end of Ep 2 or the beginning of Ep 3. If the death star wasn't constructed since Ep 3 then how could they build it so quickly? If it was constructed since Ep 3 then how could Palpatine hide it from the jedi?

Well the Death Star was first seen at the very near end of Episode II, during the arena riot Poggle handed Dooku a holo-model of the Death Star, the Death Star started construction near the end of Clone Wars I'm guessing (not sure about the official construction start).

The issue of hiding it from the Jedi wouldn't have been such a big problem since A) a lot of the Jedi (the more dangerous Jedi at least) were out on diplomatic off-world missions for long periods of time so them seeing the Death Star wouldn't be an issue. Order 66 prevented a lot of "would be" Jedi problems by eliminating them then and there on the many planets they were on. The Republic being transformed into an Empire would be the biggest concern to any surviving Jedi since a Sith lord is in control of the Republic (also they wouldn't know to look for a Death Star).

So by Episode IV the Death Star had probably been finished for a couple of years (haven't read Death Star yet) so as far as the Empire knew the Jedi had been purged, and if there were any remaining Jedi their numbers were too low to be considered a significant threat.

Goldblum 05-25-2009 04:28 AM

Do you have any idea how long it takes to build a battle station with large scale trench defenses? Not to mention, you know, it can destroy planets. Especially one the size of a moon, IN SPACE. Quite the ****ing time commitment.

Demongo 05-25-2009 02:51 PM

Yes now I can remember this:
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/dvd/aotc/GWdisk4.jpg

Then I guess they started constructing the Death Star at the end of attack of the clones.................:confused::confused:

K_Kinnison 05-26-2009 10:26 PM

By Ep III it was STARTED. But you need to realize that all you see is the initial skeleton. No superlaser, no engines, no nothing. This could quite likely be the Prototype in the maw installation we end up seeing in Jedi Academy. How could anyone besides a fully trained Jedi could find a top secret installation in the middle of a bunch of black holes?

Space is big. If a top secret facility was in the middle of deep space only by pure chance could you find it. ANd who would have the resources to go after a Galactic Empire at this time? It is just like the US working on the Nuclear Bomb. DId Germany or Japan have the ability to stop it?

Demongo 05-27-2009 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by K_Kinnison (Post 2627896)
By Ep III it was STARTED. But you need to realize that all you see is the initial skeleton. No superlaser, no engines, no nothing.

Yes, it is only the skeleton but it IS long time to build just the skeleton without anything. This space-station is as big as moon or planet.:)

K_Kinnison 05-27-2009 04:59 PM

we are talking about technology base that is able to build Capital ships in weeks, and Executor Class vessels in Months. If construction was started shortly after Ep II that means they had 3 years by the time we see the DS Skeleton in Ep III. If Construction of the second Death Star started soon after ANH, that means it took less then 4 years to build "a fully armed and operational battle station"

so I think it is quite possible for a Death star skeleton to be constructed in a few years

TKA-001 05-27-2009 06:45 PM

Death Star I's construction was actually started by the Confederacy, back when it was called the "Great Weapon" or "Ultimate Weapon". After the Clone Wars ended, it was turned over to Imperial hands, and they continued work on it.

Demongo 05-28-2009 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by K_Kinnison (Post 2628192)
we are talking about technology base that is able to build Capital ships in weeks, and Executor Class vessels in Months. If construction was started shortly after Ep II that means they had 3 years by the time we see the DS Skeleton in Ep III. If Construction of the second Death Star started soon after ANH, that means it took less then 4 years to build "a fully armed and operational battle station"

so I think it is quite possible for a Death star skeleton to be constructed in a few years

Well......I suppose you're right. One more thing:
(I haven't seen the movie since awhile)
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/dvd/rots~/GW7vq.jpg
Above which planet are they standing? Coruscant? Or nothing, they just watch the Death Star in the middle of nothing?

SW01 05-28-2009 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthDac
Above which planet are they standing? Coruscant? Or nothing, they just watch the Death Star in the middle of nothing?

Old canon would have said Despayre as the place where the first Death Star was built - but then old canon also had Bevel Lemelisk coming up with the design.

Anyone's guess now.

Demongo 05-28-2009 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SW01 (Post 2628459)
Old canon would have said Despayre as the place where the first Death Star was built - but then old canon also had Bevel Lemelisk coming up with the design.

Anyone's guess now.

I checked it in the Wookiepedia but I couldn't find anything.


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