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Astor 06-04-2010 12:09 PM

2010 FIFA World Cup
 
The 2010 FIFA World Cup kicks off in exactly a week's time...


...and i'm already bored to tears by it all.

(sorry, folks, I thought i'd kill two birds with one large rock by starting the inevitable World Cup thread and venting my frustration at a whole month of football talk, so talk away :p)

jawathehutt 06-04-2010 11:02 PM

Deutschland ueber alles!!

Astrotoy7 06-04-2010 11:06 PM

Due to Turkiye's absence, my heart is with Spain on this one. I don't expect Australia to make it beyond their group. It'd also be fantastic to see an African nation take it out for once, or come close.

I'd really love to see Villa and Torres display some of the finishing prowess we know they are capable of


This has to be the coolest World Cup Related Advertisement Ever!!

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mtfbwya

Sabretooth 06-04-2010 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jawathehutt (Post 2729064)
Deutschland ueber alles!!

This.

But EA predicts a win by Spain. Hmm.

LordOfTheFish 06-05-2010 12:20 AM

Sadly I know USA will not win. So I'm pulling for Argentina. I think Messi, Milito, and Tevez can be as dangerous as Villa and Torres and day.

I feel sympathy for England though having lost Rio Ferdinand due to injury. That will surely do nothing but hurt them.

JediAthos 06-05-2010 02:23 AM

My feelings are similar...I realize the US team is not a contender and I don't really have a secondary favorite. I would like to see the US at least get out of their group but I will follow the tournament regardless.

RC-1162 06-05-2010 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jawathehutt (Post 2729064)
Deutschland ueber alles!!

Amen to that.

Ctrl Alt Del 06-05-2010 07:14 AM

Spain needs to win their share of cups, I guess. If the awful italian football got another title last championship why can't they?

Also, I'd kill to watch a a SpainXBrazil final.

Ztalker 06-05-2010 07:31 AM

Astrotoy7 +1 Kudo for the advert!!

I guess it will be Spain as well. If you can permit yourself to have Fabregas on the bench...then your team is a bit t good :xp:

I wouldn't like Italy to win this time either.
They kinda raped the Champions League this year. Samuel Eto'o as a defender. Kinda made me want to cut my eyes out with a rusty spoon.

Anyway, I think Argentina wont get through the poule fase.
The team is unbalanced into extreme and their coach...bah. The team should be build around several players. Now it's just eleven individual quality players.

Oh yeah, the Dutch will fail. Epicly. 5-6 players are world class. 5 more can handle the level. The rest fails, even in Holland. If even 1 of the bases 11 is injured or get's a card, it's over and we'll need to play with a Celtic bench warmer, HSV mediocre player or 40-year old keeper...

adamqd 06-05-2010 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astrotoy7 (Post 2729067)

This has to be the coolest World Cup Related Advertisement Ever!!

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mtfbwya

Dang beat me too it lol

Miltiades 06-05-2010 08:43 AM

Australia and Brazil are my favorites. It'd also be nice to see some African success, especially Ivory Coast really has the potential.

Other than that, well, I'd kill to see North Korea vs. South Korea. Not earlier possible than semifinals, though. Dang.

adamqd 06-05-2010 08:51 AM

I'd like England to win, Not because I'm English, but because maybe then we can shut up about it lol, anybody would think the 66 world cup was the only thing that ever happened in the history of England :lol:

Alexrd 06-05-2010 09:24 AM

I would like Portugal to win.

Astrotoy7 06-05-2010 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexrd (Post 2729142)
I would like Portugal to win.

Portugal v Brazil in group stage is going to be interesting :thmbup1:

J7 will have to fill us in, is their any residual colonial rivalry when these two teams meet? That extra bit of passion can make games spectacular.

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Originally Posted by adamqd
Dang beat me too it lol

hehe...you gotta' be quick to outgeek me in SW related news :p That's why I sign my posts with....

mtfbwya

Miltiades 06-05-2010 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by adamqd (Post 2729139)
I'd like England to win, Not because I'm English, but because maybe then we can shut up about it lol, anybody would think the 66 world cup was the only thing that ever happened in the history of England :lol:

Why else are they trying so hard to organize the World Cup again... ;)

Similar to us, really, only we'd like to organize it so we can qualify for one.

Alexrd 06-05-2010 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astrotoy7 (Post 2729148)
Portugal v Brazil in group stage is going to be interesting :thmbup1:

J7 will have to fill us in, is their any residual colonial rivalry when these two teams meet? That extra bit of passion can make games spectacular.

I'd call it a friendly rivalry. ;)

We have a good relationship with Brazil.

urluckyday 06-05-2010 07:02 PM

Football season doesn't start until September. Now SOCCER, on the other hand, is boring! America!

Ctrl Alt Del 06-05-2010 07:15 PM

What's going on with the big names over Africa?
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JOHANNESBURG -- The injuries just keep coming, and plenty of big-name players are being affected with the World Cup less than a week away.

A day after Ivory Coast striker Didier Drogba and England captain Rio Ferdinand were hurt, Netherlands winger Arjen Robben limped off the field with a left hamstring injury and Nigeria midfielder John Obi Mikel was ruled out of the tournament in South Africa because of his ailing knee.
[...]
Robben scored two goals before being hurt in the Dutch team's 6-1 win over Hungary in Amsterdam.
[...]
Slovakia defender Martin Skrtel was also hurt Saturday. The Liverpool central defender injured his ankle in the 13th minute of Slovakia's 3-0 win over Costa Rica, but he is expected to travel with the team to South Africa.
[...]
Others being affected by injuries include Mexico forward Guillermo Franco, Italy playmaker Andrea Pirlo, Chile striker Humberto Suazo and United States striker Jozy Altidore. Besides Ballack, Germany has also lost goalkeeper Rene Adler and midfielder Simon Rolfes to injury.
[...]
Brazil, which is favored by many to win its sixth World Cup title, has had two injury scares since arriving in South Africa -- goalkeeper Julio Cesar and left back Michel Bastos. Both trained with team on Saturday.
http://www.wpbf.com/2010-world-cup/23803979/detail.html

I hope everyone is good to go soon. We need stars in order to shine.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Astrotoy7 (Post 2729148)
J7 will have to fill us in, is their any residual colonial rivalry when these two teams meet? That extra bit of passion can make games spectacular.

When a metropolis becomes a colony (happened on the XIX century) things are bound to get messy. :p

I kid, I love the Terrinha.

LordOfTheFish 06-06-2010 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urluckyday (Post 2729245)
Football season doesn't start until September. Now SOCCER, on the other hand, is boring! America!

Get out! :xp:

Salzella 06-06-2010 05:33 PM

ENG-ER-LAAAAND.

followed by Holland (everybody's favourite second team) and New Zealand (because they're hopeless underdogs).

oh, and North Korea. Kim Jung-Il is our saviour!

Fredi 06-07-2010 01:15 PM

I'll go for Holland to win, they are my favorite. Next to them Spain.

Ztalker 06-08-2010 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urluckyday (Post 2729245)
Football season doesn't start until September. Now SOCCER, on the other hand, is boring! America!

There is only 1 real football. You know this. Silly import English.
America just created a game with so much commercial breaks it's not funny anymore and named it wrong.... ;)

OT: I feel sympathy for North Korea. If the lose, they'll be executed. If they win, they get too much information of how the real world works and be executed too. Bah.

OT: Robben's injury isn't bad. Probably will take him a week and a half to fully restore. Maybe misses the first match. We have a certain mr. Van der Vaart though, who I think is better then Sneijder, who can replace him.

Astrotoy7 06-08-2010 03:31 PM

Here are my predictions for Day 1:

South Africa vs Mexico> 2-1

Uruguay vs France> 0-1

S Korea vs Greece> 1-1

Let us know yours!

mtfbwya

Ctrl Alt Del 06-08-2010 03:35 PM

You're too modest, Astro :p :
South Africa vs Mexico> 1-2

Uruguay vs France> 0-3

S Korea vs Greece> 2-1

Astrotoy7 06-08-2010 04:01 PM

@Ctrl/ALt/Del - have you had a chance to try out the new world cup 'Jabulani" balls. We had a few added to our collection to use at training - they are really light. Either adidas is following a FIFA directive to make them like that, or theyve simply forgotten to make a properly weighted ball.

I'd take a nike/puma 2010 season ball over them in an instant.

The 'knuckle' kicks are very easy to reproduce - and can cause keepers alot of trouble - which is why keepers like Cassillas, Julio Cesar and Gigi Buffon have complained about it. Field players like Xavi and Pazzini have also complained about judging their flight/wight being difficult.

Apparently, Cesar said it reminded him of those cheap balls you get at the supermarket.

Here is a great example of the trajectory waver you get -

Now everyone can kick like Roberto Carlos!
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mtfbwya

Salzella 06-08-2010 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astrotoy7 (Post 2729903)
Here are my predictions for Day 1:

South Africa vs Mexico> 2-1

Uruguay vs France> 0-1

S Korea vs Greece> 1-1

Let us know yours!

mtfbwya

hmmm, I'd go for:

South Africa 1 - 2 Mexico (SA are just not good enough from what i've seen whilst those mexicans are pretty handy with the ball when not chomping chillis and hooting around with crazy sombreros on their heads)

Uruguay 0 - 1 France (the jammy froggies will be at their crafty playing-badly-but-nicking-it-with-a-messy-deflected-goal tricks again)

S Korea 1 - 1 Greece (will be a dull, dull game probably :P)

edit: the stereotyping is just me getting into a proper patriotic ingerlund sort of mood. :]

Revan 411 06-08-2010 08:48 PM

Show spoiler

Go England!

jonathan7 06-08-2010 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astrotoy7 (Post 2729148)
Portugal v Brazil in group stage is going to be interesting :thmbup1:

J7 will have to fill us in, is their any residual colonial rivalry when these two teams meet? That extra bit of passion can make games spectacular.

Generally the relationship between Brazil and her former colonial master is pretty good in football terms; partly I think as its an area where Brazil are the undisputed kings so there isn't any inferiority complex. They have had some rather fractious meetings in the past, 66' springs to mind when the Portuguese literally kicked Pele out of the tournament in a disgraceful match that went down to infamy (Pele sustained a cruciate knee ligament injury in that match, and afterward he vowed never to play in the World Cup again, fortunately he reigned in on that threat). The most recent meeting between the two was in Brazil, and the Brazilians crushed Portugal 6-2, though I suspect the game in the group phase will be considerably tighter.

I will be supporting Spain in this tournament as they play the best football, although I expect Brazil to win the tournament; though they will be functional rather than great to watch. If your the betting type Argentina would be the best money in terms of there odds and their squad. England will get to the Semi's and be knocked out by Brazil, simply put I think England will only get that far is because the draw is kind for them, I expect France to get knocked out in the first round, and I suspect Italy will get knocked out by the quarters... Germany are greatly hindered by injuries this time round, but it's the Germans so that may well not mean much!

You can see the way I see the tournament going here; http://news.bbc.co.uk/sol/shared/inc...4dojugo9u449ou
BBC World Cup - Team Tracker

Ctrl Alt Del 06-08-2010 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astrotoy7 (Post 2729915)
@Ctrl/ALt/Del - have you had a chance to try out the new world cup 'Jabulani" balls. We had a few added to our collection to use at training - they are really light. Either adidas is following a FIFA directive to make them like that, or theyve simply forgotten to make a properly weighted ball.

I'd take a nike/puma 2010 season ball over them in an instant.

The 'knuckle' kicks are very easy to reproduce - and can cause keepers alot of trouble - which is why keepers like Cassillas, Julio Cesar and Gigi Buffon have complained about it. Field players like Xavi and Pazzini have also complained about judging their flight/wight being difficult.

I haven't tried it but I'm sure it'd be nice to use on friendly match with your buddies - but not suitable for a competition. But, if anything, this should make for a Cup with more scores.

Quote:

Apparently, Cesar said it reminded him of those cheap balls you get at the supermarket.
Read that and I honestly know what he's talking about. You can't even play if it's windy because the ball can describe violent and sudden 180º trajectories.

Quote:

although I expect Brazil to win the tournament; though they will be functional rather than great to watch.
My complaints exactly. Dunga as a coach represents the triumph of functional football over art football.

Fredi 06-10-2010 01:03 AM

I say:

South Africa vs Mexico> 1-2

Uruguay vs France> 2-0

S Korea vs Greece> 1-0

Prime 06-10-2010 03:59 AM

I'm an England supporter, but I think smart money is on Spain.

Alexrd 06-10-2010 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonathan7 (Post 2729983)
They have had some rather fractious meetings in the past, 66' springs to mind when the Portuguese literally kicked Pele out of the tournament in a disgraceful match that went down to infamy (Pele sustained a cruciate knee ligament injury in that match, and afterward he vowed never to play in the World Cup again, fortunately he reigned in on that threat).

Pele wasn't the only one kicked out. Both teams were bad that day.

jonathan7 06-10-2010 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexrd (Post 2730312)

Speaking as someone who is neither Portuguese or Brazilian I have no bias, and Portugal were far worse than Brazil that day. The Portugese also started the kicking in that particular match, although my statement about the game was "disgraceful match that went down to infamy" which is a neutral statement rather than picking on a particular side... Nor do I recall any of the Portugese players ending up with injuries putting them out the game for 10 months...

Alexrd 06-10-2010 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonathan7 (Post 2730323)
Speaking as someone who is neither Portuguese or Brazilian I have no bias, and Portugal were far worse than Brazil that day. The Portugese also started the kicking in that particular match, although my statement about the game was "disgraceful match that went down to infamy" which is a neutral statement rather than picking on a particular side... Nor do I recall any of the Portugese players ending up with injuries putting them out the game for 10 months...

I'm not saying anything to excuse Portugal. Just saying both teams were bad.

jonathan7 06-11-2010 09:14 AM

47 minutes to go until the first match.... I really hope South Africa do well!!!!

Ztalker 06-11-2010 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonathan7 (Post 2730593)
47 minutes to go until the first match.... I really hope South Africa do well!!!!

Always nice to see the 'home country' get far into the tournament :)
Especially in this case...a country that's only 20 years old that had this many internal conflicts.
Too bad Mr. Mandela won't be attending...

JediMaster12 06-11-2010 11:50 AM

Yes that is sad about what happened to his great grand daughter. I'm going to guess South Africa will play their hearts out for him and the motherland.

RC-1162 06-11-2010 12:00 PM

Well, its 1-1. First half was kinda dry, but the second was most certainly interesting. Beautiful strike by Tshabalala there. I thought SA would take the match, actually. Too bad for them Marquez equalised for Mexico. Not a bad start to the Cup.

Astrotoy7 06-11-2010 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astrotoy7 (Post 2729903)
Here are my predictions for Day 1:

South Africa vs Mexico> 2-1 >>Final Score 1-1 (Too bad SA hit the post in 89th minute!)

Uruguay vs France> 0-1 >> Final Score 0-0. Boo! France really need to get their act together. So much talent and they play with the cohesion of a BP Engineering team.

S Korea vs Greece> 1-1 >>Final score 2-0 - well done SK! Greece seriously didn't look like they wanted to be there... :(

Let us know yours!

mtfbwya

Lucky I'm not a betting man :p

Here are my picks for Day 2:

Argentina vs Nigeria >> 1-2 Go Nigeria! Messi or not, Maradona is the worlds worst coach. Time for the world to see it! >>FINAL SCORE: 1-0. Messi played well but just couldn't put it away for some reason

England vs USA >> 2>1. It will bring a tear of joy into my (and any Liverpool fans) eye to our beloved Steven Gerrard as the skipper.

Algeria v Slovenia >> ?? I dont know anything about these teams so will reserve my guessing :)

Let us know yours!


check out this soccer related music video>>>... I don't think anything on the world cup will be as awesome: PHAW!
nb. external embedding disabled, so you need to click linky to watch it at YTube

mtfbwya

jonathan7 06-12-2010 12:41 AM

Argentina vs Nigeria >> Worst coach or not, I personally would expect to see the Argies prevail, maybe 2-0

England vs USA >> I don't think this will be the walkover expected by some section of the British media, I'll go for 1-1

Algeria v Slovenia >> Algeria, are awful, I would expect them to finish goaless and bottom of the group, how they put Egypt out is a mystery for those with more special powers than me, Slovenia to win 2-0.


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