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Lynk Former 06-14-2010 03:22 AM

Kinect for Xbox 360 (formerly known as Project Natal)
 
Microsoft has recently taken the silk sheets off of their new motion based device formerly known as Project Natal... meet Kinect for Xbox 360.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2myc75v.jpg

The Natal event that was scheduled was for media only however there is a lot of news and info being released about it.

There are a few games being released, all of which seem to be closely related to what the eyetoy can achieve and also another Wii Sports clone... however there is also a lightsaber game that I'm sure a lot of you will be interested in.

Here are some details about those games
  • Kinectimals lets you train and play with 20 different virtual cats, including a lion, cheetah and tiger.
  • Joyride, a racing game, lets players use their hands to hold an imaginary steering wheel — pull your hands toward you and push back out for an acceleration boost — and their bodies to execute jumps and tricks.
  • Kinect Sports has six activities including boxing, bowling, beach volleyball, track and field, soccer and table tennis. To serve a volleyball, you mimic the real motion; in soccer, you can kick the ball or do a header.
  • Kinect Adventures includes a river-raft time trial and obstacle course, playable by up to four players. On the raft, playing as a duo, you and a partner must lean one way or another to steer. Jumping helps the raft reach special areas for extra points.
  • Dance Central, in development by MTV Games, brings a So You Think You Can Dance experience home.
  • Star Wars characters and iconic Disney favorites will be featured in separate new games being developed at Microsoft in conjunction with LucasArts and Disney.

It's also been revealed that Kinect will replace the current camera available for the 360 as it can achieve the same results. Also, a chat program has also been revealed which also used motion gestures to work the menus.

The price of Kinect hasn't been revealed as yet but here's a few handy links to some more bits of info as well as an interview regarding Kinect...


If you find any more Kinect related news, pictures, etc, please post them in this thread.

Sabretooth 06-14-2010 03:40 AM

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Yay, we're ripping off Nintendo because we want to make money!

Seriously, Sony at the last E3 had the best demo ever. I want motion control to shoot arrows and guns and punch people in the face, not dance and jump.

Except for in Bollywood games.

Lynk Former 06-14-2010 03:43 AM

Here's Destructoids take on the Kinect event that occured not long ago: http://www.destructoid.com/e310-our-...o-176297.phtml (vid contains bad language for all you sensitive types)

Apparently the way to describe the event is "WHAT THE **** WAS THAT ****?!"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabre
Seriously, Sony at the last E3 had the best demo ever. I want motion control to shoot arrows and guns and punch people in the face, not dance and jump.

You mean what Wii can do as well?

Sabretooth 06-14-2010 03:46 AM

It's Cirque du Soleil, what did they expect?

Also, I still hate you Jim Sterling. >:[

Lynk Former 06-14-2010 03:50 AM

http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/176291-cirque.jpg

So far it is turning out to be too much like eyetoy, not enough like its own thing. However, to the average casual consumer, this doesn't matter. If Microsoft is able to market it effectively enough and also allow Kinect to enhance other types of games with, for example, the head-tracking features I've been going on and on about... then it could become something pretty awesome.

Lynk Former 06-14-2010 05:47 AM

Microsoft held a big reveal for Kinect earlier... here's a bit by bit of it from Joystiq

Kinect debut event recap (featuring Cirque du Soleil and LED ponchos)


Also, Destructoid has some video of the Star Wars game in question... looks like it was just put on as a concept, no sign of the game working in real life: http://video.destructoid.com/#164359

I'll try to find a better source when I can.

mimartin 06-14-2010 12:03 PM

If nothing else, Kinect looks pretty. :xp:

Lynk Former 06-14-2010 01:11 PM

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.c...cthello365.jpg

Some recent info says that Kinect is coming in November in the US...

jrrtoken 06-14-2010 02:29 PM

Looks like another attempt by Microsoft to copy something; it's kitschy, clunky, and it screams of "TRYING TOO HARD".

Lynk Former 06-14-2010 05:07 PM

Actually from what I witness in their conference, Microsoft is onto something... think about it. All you need is Kinect and no matter what kind of game you play you don't have to buy a tonne of different accessories to play like you end up doing with Wii.

urluckyday 06-14-2010 07:31 PM

*sigh* The 360 Slim is so much cooler than this...

Jae Onasi 06-14-2010 07:51 PM

The fitness games--no board needed, no controllers needed, no arm or legbands needed--very nice.

Kinectimals--my daughter will absolutely love it.

The dance game--I'm going to have a blast with it, and it'll be a nice way to get some exercise in without thinking about it. It's Dance Dance Revolution without the floor pad, which will be great, considering my puppy chewed through the cord of my first DDR pad. >.<

Am I going to get this? Definitely.

mimartin 06-14-2010 08:33 PM

If I get one, I'm painting over my windows because I don't want my neighbors able to see me playing games with it.

Mav 06-14-2010 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mimartin (Post 2731586)
If I get one, I'm painting over my windows because I don't want my neighbors able to see me playing games with it.

re: augmented reality porn, feat: mimi

Threepwood4life 06-15-2010 05:24 AM

I might get it since the interaction with the console and options seems impressive as for the games its a mixed bag probably the Star Wars one is the only worth while one on the list so far.

swphreak 06-15-2010 01:30 PM

I'm not impressed at all. All they showed off was Wii crap with beefed up graphics.

As for controlling the xbox without a controller, it looks interesting. I don't like how they have you hover over an item you want to select and wait for the circle to fill up. If it was like Minority Report, I'd be excited for it.

And that Natal Star Wars on rails game looks like it could be fun. Hopefully what they showed off was just a really rough demo, and not what the final game will look like. Still won't be enough to get me to buy a Natal though.

Taak Farst 06-15-2010 06:19 PM

Yanoo, when the little girl did a kinect ddemo, playing with the tiger called "Skittles"..i felt embarrased FOR her..i mean oh my god...like near the end when it licked the screen she was like "stop that tickles"..i cant even imagine a 3 year old doing that. it's a blooddy screen.

DarthSlinky 06-16-2010 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taak Farst (Post 2731848)
Yanoo, when the little girl did a kinect ddemo, playing with the tiger called "Skittles"..i felt embarrased FOR her..i mean oh my god...like near the end when it licked the screen she was like "stop that tickles"..i cant even imagine a 3 year old doing that. it's a blooddy screen.

Anyone who plays that game will start to hallucinate tigers in their backyard, that game scares me :eek:

tk102 06-16-2010 11:37 AM

Cracked.com put out an article titled The Day the Gaming Industry Died: Impressions from E3 2010 which focused primarily on Kinect. Thought I'd share.

http://cdn-www.cracked.com/phpimages.../25130.gif?v=1

ChAiNz.2da 06-16-2010 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk102 (Post 2732063)
Cracked.com put out an article titled The Day the Gaming Industry Died: Impressions from E3 2010 which focused primarily on Kinect. Thought I'd share.

http://cdn-www.cracked.com/phpimages.../25130.gif?v=1

"The audience at the conference reacted in exactly the same way you react when you notice the homeless guy next to you on the subway is masturbating."

Classic :lol:

Pho3nix 06-16-2010 11:44 AM

Why did they change It's name? Natal sounded way cooler

Lynk Former 06-16-2010 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk102 (Post 2732063)
Cracked.com put out an article titled The Day the Gaming Industry Died: Impressions from E3 2010 which focused primarily on Kinect. Thought I'd share.

http://cdn-www.cracked.com/phpimages.../25130.gif?v=1

Well that's a change... usually it's Nintendo who are the ones killing the video game industry...

I don't get all these doom and gloom people. Every single time anyone announces anything new, some guy says "oh no! that's going to plunge the industry into its doooooom!!" and then life goes on, great games are released and lots of people are having fun.

Jae Onasi 06-16-2010 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChAiNz.2da (Post 2732065)
"The audience at the conference reacted in exactly the same way you react when you notice the homeless guy next to you on the subway is masturbating."

Classic :lol:

Hey, that guy probably got paid a lot of money to go out there and make a complete ass of himself. Of course, if I got paid an MS salary, I just might go out there on stage myself. :lol:

Astor 06-17-2010 02:54 PM

I don't know if this is confirmed, but Twitter informs me that retailers have agreed that Kinect will sell at around $150.

urluckyday 06-17-2010 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk Former (Post 2732099)
Well that's a change... usually it's Nintendo who are the ones killing the video game industry...

I don't get all these doom and gloom people. Every single time anyone announces anything new, some guy says "oh no! that's going to plunge the industry into its doooooom!!" and then life goes on, great games are released and lots of people are having fun.

I think you're just paying too much attention to me lol

GeneralPloKoon 06-17-2010 06:04 PM

I have no interest in Kinect. I already have a Wii....

Lynk Former 06-18-2010 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urluckyday (Post 2732416)
I think you're just paying too much attention to me lol

lol, no. I've been looking around the net and seeing what a bunch of other people have been saying.

Taak Farst 06-18-2010 11:26 AM

150 $ wtf?!?!?! I actually prefer playstation move, and its cheaper! I only think gaming with no remote can go to a certain extent but the sony sorcery and socom 4 stuff for PS Move looks epic

Mav 06-18-2010 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taak Farst (Post 2732688)
150 $ wtf?!?!?! I actually prefer playstation move, and its cheaper! I only think gaming with no remote can go to a certain extent but the sony sorcery and socom 4 stuff for PS Move looks epic

Preferred control scheme aside (Kinect/Move/Wii), at least do your math correctly.

Kinect
Cost per unit: $150
Quantity required: 1
Total Cost: $150

PlayStation Move
Cost (Move/PSEye combo): $100
Sub-controller (optional, can use SIXAXIS/DS3): $30
Extra Move Controller (1-3): $50-$150
Extra Sub-Constroller (1-3): $30-$90
Total Cost: Minimum $50 if you have a PSEye already, $100 if you don't
Maximum $370 (4 sets of controllers + Eye)

I would say at bare minimum, assuming you don't have a PSEye, you're looking at $130 to play most games effectively with the PS Move. While I also prefer Move to Kinect, I'm not fool enough to use price as an argument.

Lynk Former 06-19-2010 01:04 AM

Games are the factor for me when it comes with device to invest in. Kinect isn't showing me much that I want... PlayStation Move on the other hand being a straight Wii ripoff has pretty much the exact same applications meaning that it can also be used more easily with traditional based games.

If I see certain games coming out with PS Move functionality I may get those games for PS3... hell, it may convince me to buy certain multi-platform games for the PS3 instead of 360.

mimartin 06-20-2010 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynk Former (Post 2732902)
Games are the ONLY factor for me when it comes with device to invest in.

fixed

If a game comes out that I want to play then I could purchase any of them, right now none of them have showed me anything worth my time or money.

Lynk Former 06-20-2010 10:38 PM

Oh, thanks for the fix... I thought I did type it that way XD

Mr.Funsocks 06-26-2010 05:19 PM

I'm not impressed, it's just Microsoft's attempt at the Wii

Mav 06-27-2010 03:45 PM

Ok, and what exactly is wrong with that? With the Wii, Nintendo has opened up a whole new gaming audience, Microsoft and Sony would be pretty stupid not to try and tap into that new market.

JediAthos 07-02-2010 06:15 PM

It's a bit too pricey imo, I probably won't pay for it if they market it at the rumored $150.00 price. Not enough to attract me to drop that kind of cash when I'd much rather put it toward a purchase of the slim 360.

N-5/Prudii 07-25-2010 01:16 AM

The Star Wars one looks pretty neat.


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